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 BREAK : CHINA TOYOTA 2024 1.5 corolla RM45k, with up to 20k incentive Upon trade in

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max_cavalera
post Dec 19 2024, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Nanti Sekejap @ Dec 19 2024, 11:02 PM)
isnt that mean whatever car also they subsidi = as long as u buy car, gomen give u money
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Then lurkingaround keep crying ccp ev scam bcoz of unfair subsidy how?

Not only ccp car japanese woso they subsidize what?
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post Dec 20 2024, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 20 2024, 12:16 AM)
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Fyi, .......

https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount.

Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ...

= because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively.
....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted.

On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual  car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection.
....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years.

If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars.
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If Japan carmaker produce and sell EV there in chyna will enjoy the same subsidy as well as the CCP carmakers right?

Did they discriminate non CCP carmaker even produce EV wont enjoy their subsidy or reduce subsidy?

Sounds like they even more fairer than european and US legislation
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post Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 20 2024, 03:22 PM)
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Fyi, the center of this world is not CCP China, as desired by Emperor Xi and as self-claimed by the China Dynasty from 2nd century BC onward - Middle Kingdom = 中国 .

Japanese automakers like Toyota still sells millions of ICE-V cars around the world, eg in USA, Europe, Asia Pacific, etc, ... even though it's ICE-V car sales has dwindled in CCP China due to CCP's pro-EV policies/mandates. So, Japan's Toyota does not yet need to kowtow to Emperor Xi's EV money scam. .......

https://www.focus2move.com/world-car-group-ranking/
World Car Group Ranking in 2024 is dominated by Toyota Group (-2.1%), which kept a lead on the runner-up Volkswagen Group (-1.6%). BYD surged 39.8% in year-to-date volume.

In this article we report on the global ranking of car manufacturers considered as a group, aggregating sales done for each brand owned by the same group.

Looking at cumulative sales up to October 2024 the leader was Toyota Group, with 8,56 million vehicles (-2.1%), retaining a wide margin over all other competitors.

The second was Volkswagen Group with 6,85 million sales (-1.6%). Growth in America (+8.9%) and Europe (+2.7%) was outweighted by losses in Asia (-9.4%). 

In third place, Hyundai-Kia recorded 5,65 million sales with a decline of 3.1%. Overall performance was negative, with significant drops in Africa (-18%), Asia (-5.7%).

Renault Nissan Alliance grew 1 spot, ranking in 4th and reporting 5 million sales while growing 1%, mainly sustained in Europe (+4.6%) and Oceania (+7.7%).

General Motors gained 1 spot and ranked in 5th place with 4,76  million sales (-4.9%). It lost volume in Asia (-12.7%) and America (-0.5%); however it also reported strong gains in  Europe (+36.6%).

In 6th position, Stellantis -down 2 spots- reported 4,74  million sales (-8.1%), down 9.6% in America and 9.3% in Europe. Honda Motor followed in 7th, with 3,18 million new sales (-2.9%) despite losing 11.8% in Asia, while Ford Group ranked in 8th with 3,09 million units sold (-0.4%), growing 4.8% in America but losing 3.6% in Asia and 14.4% in Europe.

In 9th place, BYD climbed one spot and reported 2,95 million sales. With a 35.6% increase in volume compared to the prior year, it reported one of the best performances in the top 30. The company achieved extraordinary growth in the Americas (+422%) and Europe (+232%).

Closing the top 10, Suzuki dropped one spot and ranked in 10th with 2,64 million registrations (+3.9%), sustaining losses in America (-9.6%) but growing in Europe (+14.5%). ...

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Wow. I asking simple question only.

If Japanese automaker make and assemble EV to be sold in Chyna, do they enjoy the same subsidy as other chinese automaker?

End up type so much but my question not answered…

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM

 

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