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 BREAK : CHINA TOYOTA 2024 1.5 corolla RM45k, with up to 20k incentive Upon trade in

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toughguy
post Dec 19 2024, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Computer^freak @ Dec 19 2024, 10:27 PM)
Remove the excise tax first before even talking about subsidy.
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All EV cars have no excise tax. Why u no buy?

QUOTE(hunt3r87 @ Dec 19 2024, 10:28 PM)
Still waiting raja formula to formulate car price.... dengar2 harga myvi 30k OTR. kahkahkah
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Current Rahman Axia is under RM30k. This Axia have the similar specifications of previous myvi generation. The formula were made long time ago, should compare to old gen myvi.
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post Dec 19 2024, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 19 2024, 09:51 PM)
LATEST MODEL 2024 all drop price JENG

when malaysia follow?
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selling price                                76,800 rmb
+ assuming insurance                 10,000 rmb
- government subsidy                 15,000 rmb
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                                                71,800 rmb ~ RM 45k in malaysia
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SOS : government subsidy 15k rmb
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sos kicap
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324752.shtml
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 19 2024, 10:04 PM)
Then lurkingaround keep crying ccp ev scam bcoz of unfair subsidy how?

Not only ccp car japanese woso they subsidize what?
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Fyi, .......

https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount.

Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ...

= because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively.
....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted.

On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection.
....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years.

If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 19 2024, 11:26 PM
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post Dec 19 2024, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Dec 19 2024, 10:58 PM)
All EV cars have no excise tax. Why u no buy?
Current Rahman Axia is under RM30k. This Axia have the similar specifications of previous myvi generation. The formula were made long time ago, should compare to old gen myvi.
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No tax? Why still expensive one? I tot ppl said excise tax is wat cause car exp?
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post Dec 19 2024, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Nanti Sekejap @ Dec 19 2024, 10:02 PM)
isnt that mean whatever car also they subsidi = as long as u buy car, gomen give u money
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Yep, the west kept saying China government subsidising Chinese cars, but actually the government got a set of requirements for the subsidies. Any car makers meet that requirement will get the subsidies.


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post Dec 19 2024, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Computer^freak @ Dec 19 2024, 10:27 PM)
Remove the excise tax first before even talking about subsidy.
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I thought ph become gomen will have some changes on this
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post Dec 20 2024, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 19 2024, 10:02 PM)
yes, u red eye malaysia dont have such incentives?
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QUOTE(Computer^freak @ Dec 19 2024, 10:27 PM)
Remove the excise tax first before even talking about subsidy.
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Dec 19 2024, 11:43 PM)
I thought ph become gomen will have some changes on this
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Fyi, .......

https://www.carlist.my/news/explaining-the-...-1-60073/60073/ - Explaining The Mystery Behind High Car Prices in Malaysia - Part 1 - 18 July 2018
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= Proton and Perodua pay no excise duty because they receive maximum R&D grants/subsidies from the government yearly.
....... Hence their car prices, eg Proton Persona, Iriz, Saga, Perodua Axia, Myvi, Bezza, Ativa, etc, are still cheaper than comparable locally-assembled Toyota and Honda cars.

Seems, Geely-rebadged Proton X50/X70/X90/S70 got less grants/subsidies.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 20 2024, 12:12 AM
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post Dec 20 2024, 12:55 AM

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in other word our National cars do brought up our car prices. any foreign brand can't price their car lower than our local car and our local car can't bring down the prices because not enough volume.
wouldn't it be better without the 2Ps in the automobile market?

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post Dec 20 2024, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 19 2024, 10:04 PM)
Then lurkingaround keep crying ccp ev scam bcoz of unfair subsidy how?

Not only ccp car japanese woso they subsidize what?
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post Dec 20 2024, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 19 2024, 09:58 PM)
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324752.shtml
The notice increased subsidy standards for individual consumers replacing scrapped vehicles, raising the subsidy to 20,000 yuan for purchasing new-energy passenger cars and 15,000 yuan for fuel-powered passenger cars.
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They are so determined to lower down pollution

And i think its a good way to induce market activities
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post Dec 20 2024, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(quintesson @ Dec 20 2024, 12:55 AM)
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in other word our National cars do brought up our car prices. any foreign brand can't price their car lower than our local car and our local car can't bring down the prices because not enough volume.
wouldn't it be better without the 2Ps in the automobile market?
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later those AP holders claim tertindas hak, how?
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post Dec 20 2024, 03:03 AM

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Chinese consumers are turning to Chinese EV because better. Better fuel, better ride. So Japanese cars no more popular, that's why prices dropped so much. Imagine, you realise you need less than half the cost to run the car every month.
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post Dec 20 2024, 04:06 AM

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Msia petrol very cheap
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post Dec 20 2024, 04:21 AM

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Price tag is cheap but overall is expensive. License plate in China through bidding system and the price even more expensive than car... Overall ownership is still high around 2.5x.






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post Dec 20 2024, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Dec 19 2024, 10:02 PM)
yes, u red eye malaysia dont have such incentives?
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because our fuel still cheap and roads tolled
please refer thailand, expensive fuel but nice free roads
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post Dec 20 2024, 07:37 AM

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Incentoves here for the crony, not the citizen.

Price drop for citizen? Please moves to China.
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post Dec 20 2024, 10:24 AM

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as long you buy a new car , the so called National or NON National NEW car , you are subjected to either or both , Sales Tax & Excise Duties ON TOP OF PAYING YOUR LHDN TAX . sounds like many layers of Taxation to feed those useless


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post Dec 20 2024, 10:31 AM

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waiting for next gen corolla
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 20 2024, 12:16 AM)
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Fyi, .......

https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount.

Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ...

= because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively.
....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted.

On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual  car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection.
....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years.

If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars.
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If Japan carmaker produce and sell EV there in chyna will enjoy the same subsidy as well as the CCP carmakers right?

Did they discriminate non CCP carmaker even produce EV wont enjoy their subsidy or reduce subsidy?

Sounds like they even more fairer than european and US legislation
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post Dec 20 2024, 10:48 AM

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Coz majority of the 'local made' Japanese cars are JV between JP & CCP companies.
Support those local made Japanese cars = support local industries also (including whole supply chains). At the end, the products must be competitive.

But there are many amdk butthurt here....keep screaming CCP bagi duit to the people. CCP suppose to be collapsed, mana ada duit bagi ppl lagi...

I just came back from CCP land, i seriously don't see how corolla is 'good' enough unless they price it at very competitive price. Too many good CCP's NEV cars on the market (including those high end premium cars).

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2024, 10:31 AM)
If Japan carmaker produce and sell EV there in chyna will enjoy the same subsidy as well as the CCP carmakers right?

Did they discriminate non CCP carmaker even produce EV wont enjoy their subsidy or reduce subsidy?

Sounds like they even more fairer than european and US legislation
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