LATEST MODEL 2024 all drop price JENG

when malaysia follow?



selling price 76,800 rmb
+ assuming insurance 10,000 rmb
- government subsidy 15,000 rmb
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71,800 rmb ~ RM 45k in malaysia







SOS : government subsidy 15k rmb

sos kicap
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324752.shtml

This post has been edited by theberry: Dec 19 2024, 10:18 PM

why chinese gomen subsidises japanese car?

China start to push EV liao, all the remaining ICE cars available selling it off at discount

Malaysia long way to go la

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202412/1324752.shtml


The notice increased subsidy standards for individual consumers replacing scrapped vehicles, raising the subsidy to 20,000 yuan for purchasing new-energy passenger cars and 15,000 yuan for fuel-powered passenger cars.

liddat rv also jatuh lol

isnt that mean whatever car also they subsidi = as long as u buy car, gomen give u money

yes, u red eye malaysia dont have such incentives?

This post has been edited by theberry: Dec 19 2024, 10:03 PM

Then lurkingaround keep crying ccp ev scam bcoz of unfair subsidy how?

Not only ccp car japanese woso they subsidize what?

ya, red eye with blood coming out from both eyes

need to have old car and scrap it

hybrid right? for them hybrid consider new energy vehicle, so trade in old ICE can get 20k rebate.

all ev will get also no matter which brand, which is why i say tesla there also enjoying those subsidy that government provide

yalo, that sohai lurk-chart only die die anti ev, whatever crap also dare to fabricated

malaysian can only dream, they have many cars to choose..from bmw to toyota to china own brand all fighting for orders so more price cut so more value for the money

Remove the excise tax first before even talking about subsidy.

Still waiting raja formula to formulate car price.... dengar2 harga myvi 30k OTR. kahkahkah

1.5 3 cylindr as in japanis spec yaris? Lol

ev 20K, ice 15k.. no fair..

fuuu cheaper than Axia here.

keep workers employed and economy going… better than the economy collapse and no one benefits..

lu jangan biadap..nanti lurningaround google come taruh you kau kau

i thought they say ccp unfair, why japenis car also get subsidy? should have taruh more tax for non ccp brand

All EV cars have no excise tax. Why u no buy?

Current Rahman Axia is under RM30k. This Axia have the similar specifications of previous myvi generation. The formula were made long time ago, should compare to old gen myvi.

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Fyi, .......

https://auto.sina.cn/info/cx/2024-12-17/det...s8914911.d.html - Google Translated: It has enough space, great handling, and can be as cheap as 41,500 yuan. Wouldn’t you like a Toyota Corolla like this? - 17 Dec 2024 = 35% off MSRP or 35% discount.

Even Nissan Sylphy is 33% off MSRP and Honda Civic is 21% off MSRP in CCP China. Why new ICE-V cars all lelong sale.? ...

= because in the 7 Tier-1 cities like Shanghai, buyers of new ICE-V cars have to pay about RMB100k for the license plate fee and wait >6 months for registration. ... In Tier-3 cities, it's about RMB30k and >2 months, respectively.
....... Buyers of new NEV cars are exempted.

On top of that, nearly all used ICE-V cars have to be scrapped bc CCP China just introduced more stringent annual car inspection (macam by Puspakom/JPJ) for 6 yo or older cars in Jan 2024(.?), in order to purposely fail them or scrap them, eg any failure detection via OBD, eg sensor failure = fail inspection.
....... Used ICE-V cars <6 yo = car inspection every 2 years.

If you are man in China, you dare to buy the above discounted new ICE-V cars.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 19 2024, 11:26 PM

No tax? Why still expensive one? I tot ppl said excise tax is wat cause car exp?

Yep, the west kept saying China government subsidising Chinese cars, but actually the government got a set of requirements for the subsidies. Any car makers meet that requirement will get the subsidies.

I thought ph become gomen will have some changes on this

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Fyi, .......

https://www.carlist.my/news/explaining-the-...-1-60073/60073/ - Explaining The Mystery Behind High Car Prices in Malaysia - Part 1 - 18 July 2018


= Proton and Perodua pay no excise duty because they receive maximum R&D grants/subsidies from the government yearly.
....... Hence their car prices, eg Proton Persona, Iriz, Saga, Perodua Axia, Myvi, Bezza, Ativa, etc, are still cheaper than comparable locally-assembled Toyota and Honda cars.

Seems, Geely-rebadged Proton X50/X70/X90/S70 got less grants/subsidies.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 20 2024, 12:12 AM

in other word our National cars do brought up our car prices. any foreign brand can't price their car lower than our local car and our local car can't bring down the prices because not enough volume.
wouldn't it be better without the 2Ps in the automobile market?

This post has been edited by quintesson: Dec 20 2024, 12:56 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA

They are so determined to lower down pollution

And i think its a good way to induce market activities

later those AP holders claim tertindas hak, how?

Chinese consumers are turning to Chinese EV because better. Better fuel, better ride. So Japanese cars no more popular, that's why prices dropped so much. Imagine, you realise you need less than half the cost to run the car every month.

Msia petrol very cheap

Price tag is cheap but overall is expensive. License plate in China through bidding system and the price even more expensive than car... Overall ownership is still high around 2.5x.

because our fuel still cheap and roads tolled
please refer thailand, expensive fuel but nice free roads

Incentoves here for the crony, not the citizen.

Price drop for citizen? Please moves to China.

in Malaysia

as long you buy a new car , the so called National or NON National NEW car , you are subjected to either or both , Sales Tax & Excise Duties ON TOP OF PAYING YOUR LHDN TAX . sounds like many layers of Taxation to feed those useless

waiting for next gen corolla

If Japan carmaker produce and sell EV there in chyna will enjoy the same subsidy as well as the CCP carmakers right?

Did they discriminate non CCP carmaker even produce EV wont enjoy their subsidy or reduce subsidy?

Sounds like they even more fairer than european and US legislation

Ask mamak

Coz majority of the 'local made' Japanese cars are JV between JP & CCP companies.
Support those local made Japanese cars = support local industries also (including whole supply chains). At the end, the products must be competitive.

But there are many amdk butthurt here....keep screaming CCP bagi duit to the people. CCP suppose to be collapsed, mana ada duit bagi ppl lagi...

I just came back from CCP land, i seriously don't see how corolla is 'good' enough unless they price it at very competitive price. Too many good CCP's NEV cars on the market (including those high end premium cars).

remove subsidy then can remove car taxes ?

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Fyi, ie many CCP China BEV cars are not safe to drive in terms of NCAP Rating, besides being like time-bombs or spontaneous explosives.

Also, many CCP China products are poor quality, not safe and are fake/copies, eg fake milk, fake beef, gutter oil, toxic foods/drinks, fake walls, fake grass, fake tablets/microSD cards, fake iPhones, etc, .......

https://afma.org.au/neta-v-rated-0-stars-di...ays-asean-ncap/ - NETA V rated 0 stars, “disappointing performance” says ASEAN NCAP - Dec 2024
The NETA V was rated 0 stars by the ASEAN NCAP during its safety test last November 2024. NETA V, also known as the NETA Aya, was released by electric vehicle company, NETA Auto in 2020. Tested at Malaysia’s MIROS Provisional CRASE Crash Centre, this EV was the first to receive a 0-star rating under the organisation’s 2021-2025 protocol. Currently, the vehicle is available in Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia, and Thailand. ...

- 8 Dec 2024
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mehsia wait long long bruh

Lol Remove ap all car price drop by 20k.

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Fyi, the center of this world is not CCP China, as desired by Emperor Xi and as self-claimed by the China Dynasty from 2nd century BC onward - Middle Kingdom = 中国 .

Japanese automakers like Toyota still sells millions of ICE-V cars around the world, eg in USA, Europe, Asia Pacific, etc, ... even though it's ICE-V car sales has dwindled in CCP China due to CCP's pro-EV policies/mandates. So, Japan's Toyota does not yet need to kowtow to Emperor Xi's EV money scam. .......

https://www.focus2move.com/world-car-group-ranking/
World Car Group Ranking in 2024 is dominated by Toyota Group (-2.1%), which kept a lead on the runner-up Volkswagen Group (-1.6%). BYD surged 39.8% in year-to-date volume.

In this article we report on the global ranking of car manufacturers considered as a group, aggregating sales done for each brand owned by the same group.

Looking at cumulative sales up to October 2024 the leader was Toyota Group, with 8,56 million vehicles (-2.1%), retaining a wide margin over all other competitors.

The second was Volkswagen Group with 6,85 million sales (-1.6%). Growth in America (+8.9%) and Europe (+2.7%) was outweighted by losses in Asia (-9.4%).

In third place, Hyundai-Kia recorded 5,65 million sales with a decline of 3.1%. Overall performance was negative, with significant drops in Africa (-18%), Asia (-5.7%).

Renault Nissan Alliance grew 1 spot, ranking in 4th and reporting 5 million sales while growing 1%, mainly sustained in Europe (+4.6%) and Oceania (+7.7%).

General Motors gained 1 spot and ranked in 5th place with 4,76 million sales (-4.9%). It lost volume in Asia (-12.7%) and America (-0.5%); however it also reported strong gains in Europe (+36.6%).

In 6th position, Stellantis -down 2 spots- reported 4,74 million sales (-8.1%), down 9.6% in America and 9.3% in Europe. Honda Motor followed in 7th, with 3,18 million new sales (-2.9%) despite losing 11.8% in Asia, while Ford Group ranked in 8th with 3,09 million units sold (-0.4%), growing 4.8% in America but losing 3.6% in Asia and 14.4% in Europe.

In 9th place, BYD climbed one spot and reported 2,95 million sales. With a 35.6% increase in volume compared to the prior year, it reported one of the best performances in the top 30. The company achieved extraordinary growth in the Americas (+422%) and Europe (+232%).

Closing the top 10, Suzuki dropped one spot and ranked in 10th with 2,64 million registrations (+3.9%), sustaining losses in America (-9.6%) but growing in Europe (+14.5%). ...
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Wow. I asking simple question only.

If Japanese automaker make and assemble EV to be sold in Chyna, do they enjoy the same subsidy as other chinese automaker?

End up type so much but my question not answered…

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Dec 20 2024, 02:43 PM

Anehneh you so outdated. 😅

proton and perodua

cb

their discount is not like few thousand
price slashed 40,000RMB?

dafuq.....

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Fyi, ie Toyota's mindset wrt the EV push, .......

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/electri...rvertelemetry=1 - Electric cars will NEVER dominate the market, Toyota says - Jan 2024
....He said the remaining 70 percent of vehicles would include other types of greener vehicles, but added: 'Engine cars will definitely remain. I think this is something that customers and the market will decide, not regulatory values or political power.'

Pushing back against the focus on battery EVs at the expense of alternatives, Toyoda said: 'The enemy is CO2. So, let's all think about reducing CO2.'

Governments around the world are pressing drivers to ditch petrol and diesel cars in favour of electric alternatives in a bid to hit climate targets. ...

= EV is a CCP China money scam to overthrow ICE-V technology which has been dominated for decades by Western and Japanese automakers.
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Remember the Covid-19 Scamdemic when governments foolishly mandated travel bans/MCO, social distancing, face masks, quarantines, PCR/RTK tests, Covid vaccine jabs, etc.? = many businesses went bankrupt, many people became jobless and some people even committed suicide.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Dec 20 2024, 03:58 PM

Someone kuat rage forgot to get his head checked.

That guy is mentally cacat wan. No matter what you reply, he will start of with fyi..... afaik..... then continue to plaster a long post of dubious, irrelevant article then change the color, fonts, bold here bold there. But never really answer the question.