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sadlyfalways
post Dec 19 2024, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Dec 19 2024, 12:46 AM)
No security chip...Samsung has KNOX, Google has TITAN...

Also ccp phones has more bloatwares more than the rest...

some of these bloatwares... triggers pop ups.. to install apps or games... which then triggers to install other things...

thats on the phone...
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what about the rest of my questions?.. do you enable SIM PIN?... do you enable 2FA for all your major apps?...
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doesnt matter if you got knox or titan la.

this is social engineering issue

they will give you instructions to go developer settings and enable apk installations from unknown sources saying you need it for promotion

just get an iphone for the old people
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post Dec 19 2024, 08:36 AM

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no way to purchasing cena branded. really cannot 1.
not becos of spec or what. but software disasters.
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post Dec 19 2024, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(seinganchai @ Dec 19 2024, 12:26 AM)
The act of placing your bank apps and sms in the same device is the the ultimate opportunity for scammers
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First time I heard of such advice tbh
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post Dec 19 2024, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Dec 19 2024, 12:27 AM)
Old people always accept all sorts of requests online be it free gifts or install games, apk. Best set the privacy settings for whatsapp and telegram so that they do not get auto add to groups. Yes, ios has better security features and updates compared to android.
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Yes, some old people, their children says don't download also, they won't listen

Once they've saw that free gifts, free tv shows, free this that, cheap maid, they think they discovered something valuable on the internet, like they won lottery

Then when you tell them this is fake, they think you're the dumb one

QUOTE(seinganchai @ Dec 19 2024, 12:26 AM)
The act of placing your bank apps and sms in the same device is the the ultimate opportunity for scammers
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Old people very difficult, bank should let them use traditional but stupid they force everyone go digital

This post has been edited by Natsukashii: Dec 19 2024, 08:50 AM
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post Dec 19 2024, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Dec 19 2024, 08:33 AM)
doesnt matter if you got knox or titan la.

this is social engineering issue

they will give you instructions to go developer settings and enable apk installations from unknown sources saying you need it for promotion

just get an iphone for the old people
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lol no need apple product la. US govt and apple has all your data. it is safe until somebody in the company exposes it or quantum computing break their security into pieces.

old folks have no need for online bank apps, only tng. let the youngster manage their online banking if needed. limit the tng amount in their phone if u want. smartly isolate the access already enough la.
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post Dec 19 2024, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Dec 19 2024, 08:51 AM)
lol no need apple product la. US govt and apple has all your data. it is safe until somebody in the company exposes it or quantum computing break their security into pieces.

old folks have no need for online bank apps, only tng. let the youngster manage their online banking if needed. limit the tng amount in their phone if u want. smartly isolate the access already enough la.
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you think android made by kim jong un is it??

you think open source software can be more secure than ios?

you know right google hands over even your search results to the fbi when requested? if you accidentally search for something a criminal searched for in a time period, you gone.

i dont care if apple has my data, but at least it is not selling it like google

we are talking about malicious apk installs and you went to quantum computing to break appels encryption lol
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post Dec 19 2024, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Dec 19 2024, 08:56 AM)
you think android made by kim jong un is it??

you think open source software can be more secure than ios?

you know right google hands over even your search results to the fbi when requested? if you accidentally search for something a criminal searched for in a time period, you gone.

i dont care if apple has my data, but at least it is not selling it like google

we are talking about malicious apk installs and you went to quantum computing to break appels encryption lol
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up to u la. i aint wasting time talking about what u want to do. lol my bad i shouldnt quote you.
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post Dec 19 2024, 09:12 AM

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At least iOS not easy to side load apps. That in itself already prevented one attack vector.

Old Apple device is not that expensive. I always hand down my old device to my older relatives.
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post Dec 19 2024, 09:14 AM

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Separate bank apps from primary phone la.

I have been doing this for almost 5 years now. The bank phone has minimal apps and no socmed or messaging apps installed. All calls blocked at the phone level.
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post Dec 19 2024, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Dec 19 2024, 12:20 AM)
Not sure if anyone has similar experience, but today my mum's phone was hacked where her Whatsapp was black-out. The hacker started sending messages to her contacts asking for money. He even provided a bank account number (Bank Islam), although the name is obviously fake. He also managed to transfer out money from Touch N Go, but bank-related transfers are safe. During this period, my mum's phone was not usable.

A police report has been made although I don't expect much hope to recover the money. Just sharing in case anyone knows what could have caused this.

Side note, is iOS more secure when it comes to hacking?
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Ios or android, if we have gullible non tech literate users who simply click on any link will get it
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post Dec 19 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Dec 19 2024, 12:46 AM)
No security chip...Samsung has KNOX, Google has TITAN...

Also ccp phones has more bloatwares more than the rest...

some of these bloatwares... triggers pop ups.. to install apps or games... which then triggers to install other things...

thats on the phone...
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what about the rest of my questions?.. do you enable SIM PIN?... do you enable 2FA for all your major apps?...
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Iphones are the best for security right? That's what I heard so far from reviewers and ppl on the street.
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post Dec 19 2024, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Dec 19 2024, 09:52 AM)
Iphones are the best for security right? That's what I heard so far from reviewers and ppl on the street.
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Nothing is best for security... NSO's Pegasus software loves Ipongs...
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Dec 19 2024, 09:55 AM)
Nothing is best for security... NSO's Pegasus software loves Ipongs...
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Then knox all those stuff what for ?
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Dec 19 2024, 12:46 AM)
No security chip...Samsung has KNOX, Google has TITAN...

Also ccp phones has more bloatwares more than the rest...

some of these bloatwares... triggers pop ups.. to install apps or games... which then triggers to install other things...

thats on the phone...
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what about the rest of my questions?.. do you enable SIM PIN?... do you enable 2FA for all your major apps?...
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You know nothing about ccp phone.

GSEA0: This chip from Goodix is used in the OPPO Find N3 and protects data encryption, identity authentication, and secure signing and verification. It also has a dedicated key management system and enhanced flash endurance

Discrete Security Chip S1
This chip has a dual Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) security system that continuously monitors and protects privacy

OnePlus Open Apex Edition
This phone has an independent security chip certified for CC EAL5+ and an NFC security chipset for CC EAL6+ and EMVCo

vivo X200 Series: This series comes with an advanced security chip that protects your information with every touch.
vivo X Fold3 Pro: This phone has a built-in security chip that has passed the international CC EAL5+ security certification.

and many more.

Of course, if you are using a low-end entry-level phone that doesn't have a chip and doesn't practice personal hygiene, then you are the one to blame.

This post has been edited by chtan: Dec 19 2024, 10:07 AM
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:18 AM

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Just shut the phone and restart the phone with no wifi/data connection. And perform other steps to mitigate it, no?
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Dec 19 2024, 12:36 AM)
Do you mean it's a standard practice to have 2 phones, one specifically for banking?
What about E-wallet? Doesnt sound practical to separate this
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Like other ktards said, it's best to have 1 phone exclusively for banking purposes especially since the elderly tend to have substantial savings in bank.

U don't need to get a high end model, mid range will do & main thing is manufacturer will still support the phone with updates for at least 5 years. Also helps to have antivirus like norton/malwarebytes installed.

Buy the phone physically from official shop, don't take chances with online purchase third party shop.

E wallet best to put.in just enough to.last throughout the week & on weekend help transfer for your mom from main bank account.

If you want to put a lot of.money in t&g to get interests then best to use another e wallet for daily use.
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:27 AM

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Did your mum send her phone to phone shop for repair?
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 19 2024, 05:17 AM)
Vivo and oppo has annoying pop ups, can't disable, especially their own store damn annoying, never buying again

Xiaomi and poco no such issue.
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yes agree , such a noob OS.

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post Dec 19 2024, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Dec 19 2024, 08:27 AM)
old ppl clicking everywhere is unavoidable. only thing u do is DONT install bank/ewallet app on the same phone they use.

and get ready to phone reset saja if anything happens there.
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Scammer already control the phone, tried turn off phone also can't. But didn't try long press power button, would have worked but she dunno got such method, panic d anyways
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post Dec 19 2024, 10:53 AM

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I know one lady boss just kena few weeks ago :X using samseng phone

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