For a while, I prefered more experienced hires. (Aged 30+) But that didn't turn out well in the long run. Could be just my luck.

The younger generations are not as bad as one would think. Just have to put some effort to train them.

I guess your asking price is high ?

Honestly at your age, you would have a better chance in Singapore as their age requirement for hiring is much better than here.

If you are at managerial level or higher, finding a job at 50s should not be a problem.

You are an accountant? Do freelance!

At over 50 years of age, most employers already view such candidate as approaching retirement or should already be running their own successful businesses.

Even at above 40 the expectation that with close to 20 years of experience working you should already be in a managerial position to handle things from managing people, well knowledgeable in the industry you're in and running a company itself.

For get about employment, if you're already a professional accountant with so many years of experience it's time to brave yourself to become your own boss.

That's the only option for older candidates now above 35yo that have been working through good times. The economy now is not too good to absorb the many graduates coming out each year and at the same time take care of the elderly.

Malaysia there's little value for employing veterans and the skillful.

It is a problem because Malaysian companies and everywhere feels it's not worthwhile employing anyone above 40yo anymore because they can simply be replaced by younger blood with cheaper salaries and are more actively willing to work longer hours.

The role of a manager hire is not simple, and its expectation is very high. You're required to know most things on day 1 as a new recruit and the commitment expectation is that your life belongs to the company's 24/7 responsible for almost everything.

Unless the company directors/VP knows you well as a long time friend/relative, such important positions are only hired behind closed doors not on open vacancies on job recruitment sites.

Also like I said before, during bad times like now there is no expansion plans. They only hire if they company is in deep trouble needing some scapegoat to pick up a mess that is happening.

what you listed is true

Yes that's that's the reality of what most bosses and employers have already in their hiring mindset.

Old people should already be on their own employment by certain age. Contributing new ideas and keeping up with modern times does not justify higher income request despite being more experienced in the industry.

They only want fresh blood and there's plenty of them churning out from modern universities these days.

No more expansion drive means they will only adopt hire and fire attitude to make use of cheap labor to put out the fire either the mess that is present or one that is by recent staffs who left.

That is why official retirement age set by government is no more relevant.

Employment policies like these is cutting the people's retirement age much earlier than expected.

Unless u are a star employee and great character, u are not going anywhere, so just wait for luck come, that all we can do

Another way is to do own small business / side income

How about retire at 51?

Do you have kids?
if no commitments actually can retire very young

This post has been edited by yehlai: Dec 19 2024, 08:55 PM

Sorry man..51 years old either u take serious pay cut or just suck it up..

Reality is a lot of fresh 20 to 30 ish willing to work half ur pay.

And most managers now r latest 40 plus…I really hope u find and out.. else just bare it till 55..

I know its shit..but some people lose their job..and hard to recover..not worth

TS, it's time to reconsider your own employment and take full control.

With so many years of experience, this is your next step calling. Your employment should last you for as long as you can work if you can successfully pull through.

Maybe try to get job agent?

I changed job at age 49 through a job agent.
I was surprised they hired me.
I thought I was too old
Pay also good as it was negotiated by the agent.

Me not accountant but doing Finance IT.

If you can do things other cant

They will still hire you

Age passed 40, I’ve never apply new jobs and usually I’m being headhunted if you’ve some unique experience in a particular sector

i guess ts is bad in networking

after 40 yo perhaps should get job via your cable

To be fair, just because u are senior doesn't mean u can automatically handle all staff or that the youngsters will automatically respect u.

In any company, sure got some problematic staff who will not respect their seniors/bosses. Sometimes can be genuine greviences/misunderstandings. Other times can be the buggers are just plain assholes/full of.themselves thinking they are too good for the.company.

If u want to change job just cause of 1 problematic staff. Then I strongly discourage such a move. Even if u get another job doesn't automatically mean that u won't face the same problem.

The job market worldwide is bad & it's not easy especially for older people to get a new job & with the number of graduates being churn out each year.This is not the 80's 90's anymore when it was easier to get a job especially for graduates.

Right now, it's the employer market so they will will be very choosy.

Before u go freelance, just remember that it will take time to establish a reputation & to secure enough clients to support yourself & family.

Also there are plenty of freelancers nowadays & since your kids are still young. It may not be a wise move. Imo, freelancing is more suitable for those with less commitments & those that feel it's better to pour all the effort into your own business rather than working for.others.

Also, take.note that you have to chase customers into.paying up as lot will play dumb so u have to.make sure that u have a decent cash flow while waiting for the clients to pay up.

Unless your current workplace.is very toxic & u can't handle it.anymore. You should refrain from quitting more for the sake of your family unless u have a ironclad job offer.

Regardless, all the best.

To justify means arrogance? You just made a sweeping general statement about people in their 50s can't adapt. Where are your statistics? There are a lot of smart people who can adapt in their 50s. A lot of vice presidents and business owners are in their 50s. Elon Musk is 53yo - he has 3 successful business in rocket, EV and social media business plus he is now a Trump advisor, that speaks a lot about adaptability. That arrogance generalization should be pointed back to you and you made sweeping assumptions "mostly", how mostly? 50%? 60%? 80% ?

Again here lies in your discrimination and misjudgement of people character. You've got to synergize people with different skills and characteristics. To justify is not a sign of pride. Americans likes to speak their mind, so you telling me that you should shun working with Americans? In the workplace, there are people who justify - lawyers, a marketing consultant that does their pitch, a sales guy who wants to close their sales, an analyst that produces his results and stats to show why co is in this situation.

Just because you had bad experiences with older people does not mean, the rest is as bad as they are.

I am 51yo, not 70yo, for goodness sakes. Yes I may have higher chances of diseases. But I tell you, I am a lot more fitter than most dudes younger than me. When I climbed Tabur and Broga hills, I see young people left behind in a huff and puff breathless. There are young people who kena cancer in their 20s and 30s, for your information. Yes perhaps stats show higher risks, but that doesn't mean I am a zombie, for goodness sakes. In Japan, UK, Singapore, Australia, they hire people in their mid 60s to work, there's got to be some justification to that.

I cycle once per week, on Saturdays, so its one day = 75km. Again, you like to assume. Who tells you that cycling does not put much pressure on your knees. I cycle up to Genting sempah. I don't cycle on flat land, mostly hilly terrain and I maintain my cadence.

And another thing, I did not know you are a younger person. We just communicate here, I have never seen you in my life. Seriously, you have issues, just because someone don't agree with you, does not mean that someone is full of pride don't listen to advice and full of arrogance. The other way can be said of you.

My reply shows how I see younger people? You think I have bionic eyes can see you are younger in this forum?

I have worked as a freelancer before, does not make as money as my senior position plus cashflow due to clients don't prioritize accounting and audit work payments. Maybe audit and taxation can enforce, but not so much accounting work. E-invoice is very challenging as it involves IT and mediaware expertise.