Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 51yo feel macam dead end can't find job

views
     
TSPalisades
post Dec 19 2024, 12:06 AM, updated 12 months ago

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024

Earlier I have issue at work. Everyday nightmare dealing with this fella difficult staff.

Want to change job, kept applying, but recently 2 employers at jobstreet rejected my application.

Then I bombarded linkedin with 30 applications, macam no progress.

Is life over at 51yo? Not sure why employers refuse to take me in. I am in good health, no high blood pressure. I know people as young as 37yo already kena high blood pressure. HR so particular with age meh?

I am an Accountant.


TSPalisades
post Dec 19 2024, 12:15 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(soul78 @ Dec 19 2024, 12:12 AM)
We're in the age of depopulationz...

Oredi say.. 5 years, whatever you save... irregardless how old you are... make you if you don't work for a long time... that pot of money can sustain you indefinitely..

if wanna get a job... this few years.. dont be soo picky... all the best...

2 years time AI will be full fledge agentic.. alot more white collar jobs would be wiped out..
*
feel sad man, is this end of my career life?

I have to suffer in this co for another 9 years?

I just need to replenish my EPF, to max it as much as I can.

Linkedin is so useless.


TSPalisades
post Dec 19 2024, 12:41 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(incognitroll @ Dec 19 2024, 12:26 AM)
sorry to be blunt, but a 51-year-old accountant struggling to manage even one staff member may lack the necessary skills and emotional intelligence required for effective people management. these attributes are critical for the position you may aspiring to. it might be more suitable to focus on roles that primarily involve working with data and numbers.
*
Care to enlighten me what kind of skill and emo intelligence that you claim can handle and dazzle that one staff?

if you can't convince me here, then you are the same as me.

I used to handle data and numbers kind of job, but seems that every hr just look at my recent job experience, not my old job experience.
TSPalisades
post Dec 19 2024, 12:48 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Dec 19 2024, 09:00 AM)
As business owner, let me be frank. Its almost impossible to hire someone above 50 because of the following:
1. Most old people can't cope with technology. Some so stubborn, die2 want to use old school system.
2. Health Issue.
3. Attitude. Old people are usually stubborn af. They dont want to listen to young people, no matter how good the advise is.
4. Salary too high mainly because years and years of experience. But let face it, 10 years experience is good enough already.
5. Commitment issue. Young couples, or newly married couple are better as they have commitment. Old people usually have this dgaf attitude.

I know it does not apply to all, but most are. I do have one manager at 56 years old. Dont know how to use phone other than forwarding message and tiktok. Cant even use online banking. Stubborn af. Had bypass surgery, slip disk, and yet still smoke like no tomorrow, everyday also drink cap kapak whisky.
*
I know Power BI, who says I old school system.
Health? my blood pressure is 110/75. I cycle 75km a week.
Attitude. Well I am doing a different role within my co with same pay.
Commitment? I have commitment. My kids still young.

I hope you drop fallacy about old staff mentality, not all of us are useless.


TSPalisades
post Dec 19 2024, 12:49 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Dec 19 2024, 11:14 AM)
What prompted you to quit your previous job? The job before the current one with your subordinate being able to do 60% of your work.
*
I did not quit.

I was transferred to new department

I been with this company for 10 years.


TSPalisades
post Dec 21 2024, 04:50 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Dec 19 2024, 02:46 PM)
I literally says at the end of my reply there, not all, but mostly are. And u tend to ignore that and continue to justify. No one says anyting about being useless. Its arrogance, and it shows here.

No one talked about old school. I am talking about adaptability to modern system. Knowing stuff and being able to adapt to it are totally different things.
Health is not just about blood pressure. And 75km per week is low, especially cycling. Cycling does not put much pressure on your knees. When u are old, a lot of disease lurked in without u knowing. When is the last time u did full medical checkup for 50 and above? Not just normal medical checkup, but special one for people above 50.
Attitude is not about doing different things or different role. Its about how u treat other, especially people who are younger than u. Its about how u swallow your pride, and being able to listen to younger people advise.

Your replies shows how u see younger people.

And since you have experience, why dont u do freelance? Since u are in accounting, I know a lot of companies looking for freelance to do their management account and audit account.
*
To justify means arrogance? You just made a sweeping general statement about people in their 50s can't adapt. Where are your statistics? There are a lot of smart people who can adapt in their 50s. A lot of vice presidents and business owners are in their 50s. Elon Musk is 53yo - he has 3 successful business in rocket, EV and social media business plus he is now a Trump advisor, that speaks a lot about adaptability. That arrogance generalization should be pointed back to you and you made sweeping assumptions "mostly", how mostly? 50%? 60%? 80% ?

Again here lies in your discrimination and misjudgement of people character. You've got to synergize people with different skills and characteristics. To justify is not a sign of pride. Americans likes to speak their mind, so you telling me that you should shun working with Americans? In the workplace, there are people who justify - lawyers, a marketing consultant that does their pitch, a sales guy who wants to close their sales, an analyst that produces his results and stats to show why co is in this situation.

Just because you had bad experiences with older people does not mean, the rest is as bad as they are.

I am 51yo, not 70yo, for goodness sakes. Yes I may have higher chances of diseases. But I tell you, I am a lot more fitter than most dudes younger than me. When I climbed Tabur and Broga hills, I see young people left behind in a huff and puff breathless. There are young people who kena cancer in their 20s and 30s, for your information. Yes perhaps stats show higher risks, but that doesn't mean I am a zombie, for goodness sakes. In Japan, UK, Singapore, Australia, they hire people in their mid 60s to work, there's got to be some justification to that.

I cycle once per week, on Saturdays, so its one day = 75km. Again, you like to assume. Who tells you that cycling does not put much pressure on your knees. I cycle up to Genting sempah. I don't cycle on flat land, mostly hilly terrain and I maintain my cadence.

And another thing, I did not know you are a younger person. We just communicate here, I have never seen you in my life. Seriously, you have issues, just because someone don't agree with you, does not mean that someone is full of pride don't listen to advice and full of arrogance. The other way can be said of you.

My reply shows how I see younger people? You think I have bionic eyes can see you are younger in this forum?

I have worked as a freelancer before, does not make as money as my senior position plus cashflow due to clients don't prioritize accounting and audit work payments. Maybe audit and taxation can enforce, but not so much accounting work. E-invoice is very challenging as it involves IT and mediaware expertise.


TSPalisades
post Dec 28 2024, 08:30 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Dec 23 2024, 08:52 AM)
Rant all you want, it show how arrogant u are. Most of the replies here agree with my statement, or at least questioned your network. I imagine you are not an easy person to work with. While u rant and try your hardest to justify your arrogance, I'm going to let u win in public forum. I'm not the one who open a thread in public online forum asking for a job anyway.

With your attitude, good luck working with gen z. They will cancel u right away. U may want to reflect on how u respond to criticism and harsh response. Sometime the problem is not with others, but within yourself.
*
hahaha, you sound like a very childlish person. I can hardly belief you are a business owner. "Most replies here agree with my statement", you sound like a boy trying to win who dares game.

I justify means it is arrogant? I justify means I am ranting? So are you saying, when a dude goes for interview, he tries to pitch himself despite doubts from his potential interviewers is arrogant? or when a lawyer tries to defend his client in court is depicted as ranting? or when a parlimentarian debates in parliament voted by you, is arrogant?

Also you haven't even provided any source or statistics to me, that people over 50yo are not able to adapt. I gave you examples like Elon Must at 53yo. You make childlish and sweeping statements and general statements about people over 50yo without a shred of evidence. Many of my friends in thier 50s are VPs, directors, business owners and high level consultants. What makes you think people above 50yo are redundant in the working place? They musta hurt you really badly at your workplace and you were hopeless in handling them.

Wrong ! Everyone around you will cancel you because of your behaviour, not me. Look at yourself in the mirror and within yourself. You could not even proof to me in my earlier post with source.

No, its not about winning here. Its about inception, I am planting in your mind, one day, this will hit you when you encounter this again and if you don't change, some older dude will hurt you because you can't handle people.

give me your points and source, else you just here to rant out your hurts. This is a forum after all.
TSPalisades
post Dec 28 2024, 08:32 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
44 posts

Joined: Dec 2024
QUOTE(rumahwip @ Dec 25 2024, 09:14 PM)
tsf to new dept as accountant? from what dept to what dept if u dnt mind
*
my job as an accountant does not mean I am an executive.

I am at a gm level.

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0257sec    0.54    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 16th December 2025 - 03:53 AM