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πŸ›οΈ Major Shopping Malls in Johor Bahru - Overview & Comparison


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Bus J15 Mid valley to jb sentral

Bus J21 Maximum fare from Hub Permas Jaya to JB Sentral is RM 2.70 (go to aeon permas jaya and opp Renaissance Johor Bahru Hotel)


Maximum fare from SOGO Mid Valley to JB Sentral is RM 1.70.




🏒 1. The Mall, Mid Valley Southkey (5227.KL)

Location: 1, Persiaran Southkey 1, Southkey, 80150 Johor Bahru

Attached Hotel: 🏨

St. Giles Southkey Hotel
575 rooms

28th floor

(shares parking, flat RM5/day for hotel/event guests)

Cinema: 🎬 GSC Cinema (Level 3 - Mezzanine)

πŸ›‹οΈ 18 Halls

🎟️ 1,686 Seating Capacity


Anchor Tenants:

πŸ›οΈ SOGO (Levels G, 1, 2)

🧰 Harvey Norman (LG level)


Events: Mid Valley Exhibition Centre (Level 3)

Parking:

πŸ…ΏοΈ 5,000 Bays

πŸ’³ Cashless: Credit/Debit/Touch 'n Go


Accessibility:

πŸ“ Near Eastern Dispersal Link (EDL), Tebrau Highway, Jalan Bakar Batu

πŸš— 5-min drive from JB CIQ / Causeway


Shortcuts:

πŸ›£οΈ Kampung Bakar Batu to Permas Jaya




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🏒 2. Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru (5338.KL)

Location: Jalan Skudai, Taman Bukit Mewah, 81200 Johor Bahru

Opening: 2017

Attached Hotel: 🏨 Hyatt Place Johor Bahru

Cinema: 🎬 GSC Cinema (Level 7)

πŸ›‹οΈ 16 Halls

🎟️ 2,137 Seating Capacity (largest in Johor)


Anchor Tenants:

πŸ›’ Village Grocer (premium supermarket)

πŸ›οΈ Parkson (200,000 sq ft)


Parking: Multi-level

Claim to Fame:

🏒 Larger than Singapore’s VivoCity (1.5 mil sq ft)

πŸ™οΈ Integrated with residential and commercial units


Shortcuts:

From Taman Ungku Tun Aminah via Jalan Danga Sutera utama

πŸš— 6-min drive from





🏒 3. KSL City Mall

Opened: December 2010

Net Lettable Area (NLA): 775,000 sq ft

Occupancy Rate: Over 90%

Adjacent Hotel: 868-room hotel (opened April 2012)

Occupancy Rate: ~70% in 2013, increased to ~75% in 2014





Location: Taman Abad, Johor Bahru

Nearby Hotels: 🏨 KSL Hotel, 🏨 Holiday Villa, 🏨 Novotel Johor Bahru

Cinema: 🎬 GSC Cinema

πŸ›‹οΈ 8 Halls

🎟️ 1,378 Seating Capacity


Inside this mall:

πŸͺ Lotus’s Supermarket


Claim to Fame:

πŸ›οΈ 3 Major hotels


KSL Hotel,
Novotel Hotel,
Holiday Villa Hotel,
New York Hotel,
Grand Paragon Hotel ,
Crystal Crown hotel


within walking or driving distance!




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🧾 Additional Info

IGB REIT (5227): Owns Mid Valley Megamall & The Gardens; potential injection of Mid Valley Southkey into the REIT still pending.

WCT Holdings Bhd (9679):

Paradigm Mall JB developer; received approval to list Paradigm REIT (5338) (Mar 2025).


KSL (5038.KL)




Paradigm REIT Initial Portfolio:

Bukit Tinggi Shopping Centre: 1,000,950 sq ft (GLA)

Paradigm Mall PJ: 680,177 sq ft (NLA)

Paradigm Mall JB: 1,291,165 sq ft (NLA)




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### πŸ”„ Quick Comparison Table

Mall Opening Year Cinema Halls Cinema Capacity Attached Hotel Parking Bays Anchor Tenants
Mid Valley Southkey 23 April 2019 18 1,686 St. Giles Southkey Hotel 5,000 SOGO, Harvey Norman, Exhibition Hall
Paradigm Mall JB 2017 16 2,137 Hyatt Place JB Multi-level Parkson, Village Grocer
KSL City Mall 2010 8 1,378 850 rooms KSL Hotel - Lotus's, various retail outlets

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### βœ… Conclusion
- **Best for Cinemas Capacity **: 🎬 Mid Valley Megamall Southkey JB (Largest seating because it have 18 halls )


- **Most Convenient for Travel/Access**:
πŸš— Mid Valley Southkey (Near Jb CIQ, 3 highways , Jalan Bakar Baru, Jalan Tebrau, EDL )

Bus T21
Permas Jaya <> JB Sentral


KSL City Mall have public bus

Bus F100
KSL City Mall <> JB Sentral


- **Best Hotel Integration**: 🏨 KSL City Mall (3 hotels side-by-side!)

🚧 **Note**: Always check current traffic and parking availability on Google Maps.

πŸ“ [Google Maps: Mid Valley Southkey](https://maps.app.goo.gl/XsMzxgeHa5uGVsLu8?g_st=ac)
πŸ“ [More info on Paradigm Mall](https://www.wct.com.my/images/projects/paradigm-mall-jb.jpg)



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🚧 Note: Always check current traffic and parking availability on Google Maps.

πŸ“ Google Maps: Mid Valley Southkey πŸ“ More info on Paradigm Mall

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Mid Valley Southkey > IKEA > Paradigm Mall JB period
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MidValley mall is the biggest? I thought it is paradigm mall. But in terms of better shopping experience midvalley is better.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 01:48 AM)

This also marks the first Parkson branch in the southern region of Peninsular Malaysia.

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first Parkson is not Parkson Holiday Plaza meh
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merlin tower is the best mall in JB.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 06:57 AM)
Many aunties at there waving hand to young man or old man
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 8 2024, 07:00 AM)
Why? What they want?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 07:22 AM)
Your money

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They provide any service?
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 8 2024, 07:26 AM)
They provide any service?
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I remember that there was more than 1 parkson in Johor for a long time
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Toppen Ikea Aeon jusco?

All nearby walking distance 10mins.
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midvalley southkey is nice..but they also primary targeting sinkie and not local...
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QUOTE(Joker123 @ Nov 8 2024, 07:56 AM)
midvalley southkey is nice..but they also primary targeting sinkie and not local...
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Mall management or the shop inside mid valley JB?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 07:57 AM)
Mall management or the shop inside mid valley JB?
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both ba....the mall is nice mean the management is doing a good job and i think it is also necessary to attract sinkine. very crowded also especially weekend because you know sinkie come in during weekend. i sometime see fb people post they jam at the car park 2-3hours just to exit
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QUOTE(Joker123 @ Nov 8 2024, 08:01 AM)
both ba....the mall is nice mean the management is doing a good job and i think it is also necessary to attract sinkine.Β  very crowded also especially weekend because you know sinkie come in during weekend. i sometime see fb people post they jam at the car park 2-3hours just to exit
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The 5,000 parking slots in the mall also cause traffic jams.Haiz

Traffic congestion occurs mainly due to road jams outside the mall?

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midvalley southkey should have been in near the bridge but instead they put RF mall there
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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 8 2024, 08:27 AM)
midvalley southkey should have been in near the bridge but instead they put RF mall there
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We already have JB City Square near the JB Customs.

The city area already has enough cars to cause traffic congestion.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 08:29 AM)
We already have JB City Square near the JB Customs.

The city area already has enough cars to cause traffic congestion.
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city square should be a apartment condo or high class hotel
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IGB pretty good at managing malls. They are good are getting quality tenants.
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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 8 2024, 08:50 AM)
city square should be a apartment condo or high class hotel
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during the 2000 and 2010s, actually CS is quite important to commuters before the larger malls are built.

In fact, these days, if the merlions dont want to travel far but only day trip, CS is still the go-to place. Convenient for them.
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i am curious, KSL mall still packed with ppl and jam there. Is it because cheaper items can be found there?
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Nov 8 2024, 09:35 AM)
i am curious, KSL mall still packed with ppl and jam there. Is it because cheaper items can be found there?
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No. KSL items are not any cheaper compare to SouthKey. It's due to it's close proximity to causeway and the fact it has a hotel/apartment above. With so many people staying there, it's bound to be packed. But I dislike KSL. Find it messy and the last time I was there, the basement carpark rek of sewage smell. puke.gif

SouthKey is the best in terms of atmosphere. However, once I got caught in jam exiting carpark due to highway jam leading to Pasir Gudang. Folks simply refuses to give way.

Paradigm is getting better but the carpark structure sucks.
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Nov 8 2024, 09:35 AM)
i am curious, KSL mall still packed with ppl and jam there. Is it because cheaper items can be found there?
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It should be near many car wash and massage shops, restaurants, salons

Also KSL Hotel.
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Nov 8 2024, 09:50 AM)
No. KSL items are not any cheaper compare to SouthKey. It's due to it's close proximity to causeway and the fact it has a hotel/apartment above. With so many people staying there, it's bound to be packed. But I dislike KSL. Find it messy and the last time I was there, the basement carpark rek of sewage smell. puke.gif

SouthKey is the best in terms of atmosphere. However, once I got caught in jam exiting carpark due to highway jam leading to Pasir Gudang. Folks simply refuses to give way.

Paradigm is getting better but the carpark structure sucks.
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Mid Valley Southkey have many exit right?

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Paradigm Mall JB has a nice bridge link connecting to Jalan Skudai and the Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama area.

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QUOTE(KevProp @ Nov 8 2024, 09:35 AM)
i am curious, KSL mall still packed with ppl and jam there. Is it because cheaper items can be found there?
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Lots of Sinkies stay and shop there. The Lotus's is always packed like sardines.
Got many makan places in and outside the mall. Monday night got pasar malam.
There's a bus that takes shoppers to ciq for RM1.50.

I stayed in the hotel quite a few times before.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 09:54 AM)
Mid Valley Southkey have many exit right?

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Paradigm Mall JB has a nice bridge link connecting to Jalan Skudai and the Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama area.
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If you see the picture, the actual exit only 2.

One from the top left, and another from the lower middle right.

Yeah, the car park got a few exit points but the actual road out of the vicinity is practically only 2.

The one on the top left, will kena block if EDL jam or the exit to bakar batu is jammed (which happen frequently enough)

The lower middle right exit, is slightly better as it got path to leave EDL section. But there is a not very big traffic light intersection there.

This MV very easy gridlock.

Paradigm problem good is it exits to one of the biggest road in JB and the entry/exit is separate. But if got problem, those inside the car park will kena teruk

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 8 2024, 09:59 AM)
Lots of Sinkies stay and shop there. The Lotus's is always packed like sardines.
Got many makan places in and outside the mall. Monday night got pasar malam.
There's a bus that takes shoppers to ciq for RM1.50.

I stayed in the hotel quite a few times before.
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They always come to Lotus's to buy fruits,beer, Milo, rice, milk, shampoo, oats, biscuits, snacks, noodles, and sugar, right?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 09:54 AM)
Mid Valley Southkey have many exit right?

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Paradigm Mall JB has a nice bridge link connecting to Jalan Skudai and the Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama area.
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There's only 1 exit to Woodlands via EDL to return Singapore. Other exit is not ideal and will inadvertently get caught in more jam.


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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:05 AM)
If you see the picture, the actual exit only 2.

One from the top left, and another from the lower middle right.

Yeah, the car park got a few exit points but the actual road out of the vicinity is practically only 2.

The one on the top left, will kena block if EDL jam or the exit to bakar batu is jammed (which happen frequently enough)

The lower middle right exit, is slightly better as it got path to leave EDL section. But there is a not very big traffic light intersection there.

This MV very easy gridlock.

Paradigm problem good is it exits to one of the biggest road in JB and the entry/exit is separate. But if got problem, those inside the car park will kena teruk
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Mid Valley Southkey ,owned by IGB Company, is so clever.

Don’t they have any other solutions for this issue?

Do you have any good suggestions?



Do you mean that if there's a traffic jam on Jalan Skudai, all the cars in Paradigm Mall JB won't be able to exit the car parks as well?

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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Nov 8 2024, 10:08 AM)
There's only 1 exit to Woodlands via EDL to return Singapore. Other exit is not ideal and will inadvertently get caught in more jam.
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even the map doesnt show how the traffice will slow down. Elevated path, then zoom down to P1 level, then return to ground level.

The one design the road very smart but ignore driver conditions.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 10:10 AM)
Mid Valley Southkey ,owned by IGB Company, is so clever.

Don’t they have any other solutions for this issue?

Do you have any good suggestions?
Do you mean that if there's a traffic jam on Jalan Skudai, all the cars in Paradigm Mall JB won't be able to exit the car parks as well?
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The upper left road is actually a flyover into southkey.

I think they need an extra exit flyover further away. To avoid bakar batu/edl combo jam.

I forget there is a small exit to the north of EDL. But this one will be a difficult exit if bakar batu traffic volume is high.

Coming soon, the roundabout on the left of the map, will open to another side of the southkey area. It should elevate the jam a bit but those seeking for a quick path to bakar batu and edl wont be benefited much.

Both actually. If Jln Skudai too jam, paradigm mall ppl either take the taman road to escape or jam into jln skudai. But because the car park design is not very good, the jam is more likely to be internal during peak hours.

If come from JB side, then the flyover into paradigm mall is famous for jam due to the volume enter, even if jln skudai is not jam.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 10:06 AM)
They always come to Lotus's to buy fruits,beer, Milo, rice, milk, shampoo, oats, biscuits, snacks, noodles, and sugar, right?
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Toilet and tissue paper.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:20 AM)
The upper left road is actually a flyover into southkey.

I think they need an extra exit flyover further away. To avoid bakar batu/edl combo jam.

I forget there is a small exit to the north of EDL. But this one will be a difficult exit if bakar batu traffic volume is high.

Coming soon, the roundabout on the left of the map, will open to another side of the southkey area. It should elevate the jam a bit but those seeking for a quick path to bakar batu and edl wont be benefited much.

Both actually. If Jln Skudai too jam, paradigm mall ppl either take the taman road to escape or jam into jln skudai. But because the car park design is not very good, the jam is more likely to be internal during peak hours.

If come from JB side, then the flyover into paradigm mall is famous for jam due to the volume enter, even if jln skudai is not jam.
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I often spend at least 30 minutes looking for a parking space in Paradigm Mall JB.

Usually, only level 3 has available spaces. Levels UG, G, 1, and 2 are usually full.


I think their parking spaces less than 2000.


The Hyatt Place Hotel is open now, and they share parking with the mall, right?



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Sunway Big Box > all
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This one got MV Gardens vibe
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Sunway Big Box > all
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 10:37 AM)
I often spend at least 30 minutes looking for a parking space in Paradigm Mall JB.

Usually, only level 3 has available spaces. Levels UG, G, 1, and 2 are usually full.
I think their parking spaces less than 2000.
The Hyatt Place Hotel is open now, and they share parking with the mall, right?
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Not sure o. Long time didnt go paradigm after MV open.

Cause paradigm wasnt that great last time when KSL is the better place.
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Nov 8 2024, 10:39 AM)
Sunway Big Box > all
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https://www.gsc.com.my/cinema/gsc-sunway-big-box/



8 halls only.....
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lol most of the malls are target for stinkaporeans
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Nov 8 2024, 09:50 AM)
No. KSL items are not any cheaper compare to SouthKey. It's due to it's close proximity to causeway and the fact it has a hotel/apartment above. With so many people staying there, it's bound to be packed. But I dislike KSL. Find it messy and the last time I was there, the basement carpark rek of sewage smell. puke.gif

SouthKey is the best in terms of atmosphere. However, once I got caught in jam exiting carpark due to highway jam leading to Pasir Gudang. Folks simply refuses to give way.

Paradigm is getting better but the carpark structure sucks.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 09:50 AM)
It should be near many car wash and massage shops, restaurants, salons

Also KSL Hotel.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 8 2024, 09:59 AM)
Lots of Sinkies stay and shop there. The Lotus's is always packed like sardines.
Got many makan places in and outside the mall. Monday night got pasar malam.
There's a bus that takes shoppers to ciq for RM1.50.

I stayed in the hotel quite a few times before.
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I see, so the strategic location plays a big part here. I was thinking what is so special with this KSL mall which was open in 2010 (am I right?) and still standing despite a lot of new shopping malls keep opening up.
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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ Nov 8 2024, 10:45 AM)
lol most of the malls are target for stinkaporeans
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Even our Legoland and Adventure Waterpark Desaru Coast also......
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Nov 8 2024, 10:45 AM)
I see, so the strategic location plays a big part here. I was thinking what is so special with this KSL mall which was open in 2010 (am I right?) and still standing despite a lot of new shopping malls keep opening up.
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Yup, strategic location and reasonable room rates (RM180 for weekdays). You practically don't have to leave the building to buy almost anything.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:42 AM)
Not sure o. Long time didnt go paradigm after MV open.

Cause paradigm wasnt that great last time when KSL is the better place.
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This was during 2020.Covid-19 era.

Why gate 4 so special?
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Like I always say, Malaysia must have the balls to build 100 fully-manned customs lanes to suck dry Singapore domestic consumption worth hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

How many loaves of bread or how many rolls of toilet paper can Singapore consume?

Why 33 million Malaysia scared of 6 million Singapore bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif


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Like I always say, Malaysia must have the balls to build 100 fully-manned customs lanes to suck dry Singapore domestic consumption worth hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

How many loaves of bread or how many rolls of toilet paper can Singapore consume?

Why 33 million Malaysia scared of 6 million Singapore bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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100? Existing counters pun don't always fully manned lo.
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This was during 2020.Covid-19 era.

Why gate 4 so special?
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this one is to the multi storied parking. direct access to the shopping floor but limited in spaces.

I think during covid era, also the starting year of the mall, the parking there is free on certain days and times but need to scan card to enter.

but i dont like to park there. macam parking in singapore car park.

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Like I always say, Malaysia must have the balls to build 100 fully-manned customs lanes to suck dry Singapore domestic consumption worth hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

How many loaves of bread or how many rolls of toilet paper can Singapore consume?

Why 33 million Malaysia scared of 6 million Singapore bangwall.gifΒ  bangwall.gifΒ  bangwall.gif
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Well, at this rate, Johor could build the lanes and still have enough room for 10 shopping mall, 10 theme park, and even a new LRT/MRT line at jb or gelang patah area to handle all the 'Singaporean tourists'!

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Like I always say, Malaysia must have the balls to build 100 fully-manned customs lanes to suck dry Singapore domestic consumption worth hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

How many loaves of bread or how many rolls of toilet paper can Singapore consume?

Why 33 million Malaysia scared of 6 million Singapore bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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More like they are too lazy to do it.

Try tell them their KPI is tied to money collected, then we might see something different.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:57 AM)
this one is to the multi storied parking. direct access to the shopping floor but limited in spaces.

but i dont like to park there. macam parking in singapore car park.
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Is this level from the JB customs direction?

Can you see that almost all the cars in the car park on this level have Singapore license plates?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 8 2024, 10:57 AM)
100? Existing counters pun don't always fully manned lo.
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Singaporeans don't steal, rob or smuggle drugs in Malaysia since most of them are richer than us.

Malaysia should just open up our borders to Singapore so that Malaysia can benefit from Singaporeans spending their precious Singapore dollars here.

Then we can talk about 1S$ = RM 2 rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Is this level from the JB customs direction?

Can you see that almost all the cars in the car park on this level have Singapore license plates?
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Kind of. Since they exit SG to EDL directly, it is the most logical way that they will enter MV directly when they exit EDL to the elevated circle lanes, into gate 4. Cause gate 4 is not on the ground level. (there is a lane that go to the basement parking at the same EDL exit mentioned here which is nearer than gate 4, but i guess SG ppl prefer to see sky).

But then, during weekend, it is also very likely to see 4 to 5 sg plats, out of 10 in basement parking.3

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 10:37 AM)
I often spend at least 30 minutes looking for a parking space in Paradigm Mall JB.

Usually, only level 3 has available spaces. Levels UG, G, 1, and 2 are usually full.
I think their parking spaces less than 2000.
The Hyatt Place Hotel is open now, and they share parking with the mall, right?
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There are ample of space at the basement, i always skip the upper levels and go straight for basement. Never spent more than 10 mins securing a spot, sometimes if lucky, can get one right in-front of homepro.


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Nowadays ppl still walking biggest mall?tak pernat meh when the place over big?
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Nowadays ppl still walking biggest mall?tak pernat meh when the place over big?
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Most people just go to the cinema or walk through one level only; they don’t usually explore all the levels.


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QUOTE(zuozi @ Nov 8 2024, 11:13 AM)
Nowadays ppl still walking biggest mall?tak pernat meh when the place over big?
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People dont want go to park. Hot and got mozzie

Walk in mall got aircond

Consider as exercising and if thirsty can buy tealive
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Singaporeans don't steal, rob or smuggle drugs in Malaysia since most of them are richer than us.

Malaysia should just open up our borders to Singapore so that Malaysia can benefit from Singaporeans spending their precious Singapore dollars here.

Then we can talk about 1S$ = RM 2 rclxm9.gifΒ  rclxm9.gifΒ  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE
The citizen population inched up 0.7 per cent to 3.64 million in June 2024 compared with a year earlier, while the permanent resident (PR) population grew 1.2 per cent to 544,900 over the same period.


The non-resident population rose 5 per cent to 1.86 million, with the increase seen across most work pass types, said the publication.

Work permit holders contributed the most to the increase, followed by migrant domestic workers.

There were approximately 269 thousandΒ  (0.269 millions) foreigners employed as migrant domestic workers (MDWs) in Singapore.


Singapore’s population of 6.04 million includes not only citizens and PRs but also all work pass holders, domestic helpers, and construction workers.


The total number of Singapore citizens and permanent residents is just 4,184,900.

4.18 millions only.

Other than that, 1.82 million people are work pass holders or LTVP.

Not all of them will travel to Malaysia, even if we had 100 manual customs counters.

Many high-income individuals (T20) in Singapore are concerned about safety and would avoid visiting Malaysia, even if offered a free five-night stay at Renaissance Hotel Permas Jaya, free petrol, or money.

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QUOTE(amboi_asamboi @ Nov 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
People dont want go to park. Hot and got mozzie

Walk in mall got aircond

Consider as exercising and if thirsty can buy tealive
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Thirsty and sugar drink won't become more thirsty and tired? πŸ˜‚
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Most people just go to the cinema or walk through one level only; they don’t usually explore all the levels.
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Klcc alone i also feel annoying as fuck imagine biggest mall πŸ˜‚
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 11:06 AM)
Kind of. Since they exit SG to EDL directly, it is the most logical way that they will enter MV directly when they exit EDL to the elevated circle lanes, into gate 4. Cause gate 4 is not on the ground level. (there is a lane that go to the basement parking at the same EDL exit mentioned here which is nearer than gate 4, but i guess SG ppl prefer to see sky).

But then, during weekend, it is also very likely to see 4 to 5 sg plats, out of 10 in basement parking.3
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1:17 outside of mall have so many parking space?









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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2024, 12:13 PM)

1:17 outside of mall have so many parking space?

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Open space parking that is not connected to the mall. Usually only see tourist bus in it.
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Malaysia and mall berpisah tiada
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 01:47 PM)
Open space parking that is not connected to the mall. Usually only see tourist bus in it.
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So clever....

Target singaporean customer.
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Malaysia and mall berpisah tiada
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More profitable to build malls than to build outdoor parks.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:20 AM)
The upper left road is actually a flyover into southkey.

I think they need an extra exit flyover further away. To avoid bakar batu/edl combo jam.

I forget there is a small exit to the north of EDL. But this one will be a difficult exit if bakar batu traffic volume is high.

Coming soon, the roundabout on the left of the map, will open to another side of the southkey area. It should elevate the jam a bit but those seeking for a quick path to bakar batu and edl wont be benefited much.

Both actually. If Jln Skudai too jam, paradigm mall ppl either take the taman road to escape or jam into jln skudai. But because the car park design is not very good, the jam is more likely to be internal during peak hours.

If come from JB side, then the flyover into paradigm mall is famous for jam due to the volume enter, even if jln skudai is not jam.
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Shared route
From KK Super Mart Johor, Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama ( JDGU )



to


Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru,
Skudai Hwy,
Taman Bukit Mewah,
81200 Johor Bahru



via Jalan Skudai Lama.

6 min (2.8Β km)
6 min in current traffic
Avoiding highways, Avoiding tolls


1. Head southeast on Jln Pertama 1 toward Jalan Pertama
2. Turn left after BiG Project Fitness (on the left) onto Jalan Pertama

(Passby FWD insurance,Greenfield regency condo, Toyota Sales Showroom)

3. Turn right onto Jalan Skudai Lama
4. Turn left
5. Merge onto Lbh Skudai/Route 1
6. Take the Paradigm JB exit
7. Turn right onto Jln Mewah Ria 2
8. Continue straight
9. Arrive at location: Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru


For the best route in current traffic visit

https://maps.app.goo.gl/XsMzxgeHa5uGVsLu8?g_st=ac


Do you know this shorcut?


From Taman Ungku tun Aminah,not neccesaary need to use jalan skudai to paradigm mall.

Can go to the Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama first.....

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Shared route
From KK Super Mart Johor, Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama ( JDGU )
to
Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru,
Skudai Hwy,
Taman Bukit Mewah,
81200 Johor Bahru
via Jalan Skudai Lama.

6 min (2.8Β km)
6 min in current traffic
Avoiding highways, Avoiding tolls
1. Head southeast on Jln Pertama 1 toward Jalan Pertama
2. Turn left after BiG Project Fitness (on the left) onto Jalan Pertama

(Passby FWD insurance,Greenfield regency condo, Toyota Sales Showroom)

3. Turn right onto Jalan Skudai Lama
4. Turn left
5. Merge onto Lbh Skudai/Route 1
6. Take the Paradigm JB exit
7. Turn right onto Jln Mewah Ria 2
8. Continue straight
9. Arrive at location: Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru
For the best route in current traffic visit

https://maps.app.goo.gl/XsMzxgeHa5uGVsLu8?g_st=ac
Do you know this shorcut?
From Taman Ungku tun Aminah,not neccesaary need to use jalan skudai to paradigm mall.

Can go to the Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama first.....
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not really cause i will always come from the east side of the jb. This route is more applicable for those staying in Sutera Utama and TUTA side only. Kempas side not benefited from tis.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 12 2024, 08:44 AM)
not really cause i will always come from the east side of the jb. This route is more applicable for those staying in Sutera Utama and TUTA side only. Kempas side not benefited from tis.
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This is KL Eco City (just beside Mid Valley KL)

I think Mid Valley Southkey JB and Paradigm Mall JB should have many flyover or interchange for easier access to the mall entrances and exits.

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This is KL Eco City (just beside Mid Valley KL)

I think Mid Valley Southkey JB and Paradigm Mall JB should have many flyover or interchange for easier access to the mall entrances and exits.
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Southkey might have that kind of space for additional flyovers.

Paradigm mall might be harder. In the first place, paradigm mall design and layout was planned decades ago before it stop for years.
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TS, how much the mid valley mall management pay you for doing marketing?
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TS, how much the mid valley mall management pay you for doing marketing?
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RM 0
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Southkey might have that kind of space for additional flyovers.

Paradigm mall might be harder. In the first place, paradigm mall design and layout was planned decades ago before it stop for years.
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dunno southkey doing new bridges or not but I notice they doing new housing development opposite, near the flats

which is not accessible itself directly thru southkey megamall, unless jam into Bayu and go from the inner route

u can literally see the place opposite while exiting car park, but u cant access directly, if tat road is made possible, I think the jam maybe not as bad
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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Nov 14 2024, 10:01 AM)
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 10:10 AM)
dunno southkey doing new bridges or not but I notice they doing new housing development opposite, near the flats

which is not accessible itself directly thru southkey megamall, unless jam into Bayu and go from the inner route

u can literally see the place opposite while exiting car park, but u cant access directly, if tat road is made possible, I think the jam maybe not as bad
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Condo or landed house?
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dunno southkey doing new bridges or not but I notice they doing new housing development opposite, near the flats

which is not accessible itself directly thru southkey megamall, unless jam into Bayu and go from the inner route

u can literally see the place opposite while exiting car park, but u cant access directly, if tat road is made possible, I think the jam maybe not as bad
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you mean the kampung area directly to the north of MV right? MV probably doesnt want kg ppl to flood its road.


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Condo or landed house?
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PPR....Not exactly what you expect...
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you mean the kampung area directly to the north of MV right? MV probably doesnt want kg ppl to flood its road.
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yea ard there, next to the flats

https://southkey.com.my/projects/nadi-residences/

u can see here for more info, I just noticed it yesterday

from the site it seems to have small units only, not cheap either, psf almost 600
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 10:36 AM)
yea ard there, next to the flats

https://southkey.com.my/projects/nadi-residences/

u can see here for more info, I just noticed it yesterday

from the site it seems to have small units only, not cheap either, psf almost 600
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Wont be cheap. the first 4km land from city center or causeway, is already pretty much full. Expanding to 6km to 10km, these area are considered premium now.

Technically, it should be considered as urban area. haha
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 14 2024, 11:36 AM)
Wont be cheap. the first 4km land from city center or causeway, is already pretty much full.  Expanding to 6km to 10km, these area are considered premium now.

Technically, it should be considered as urban area. haha
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yea, but as u can see from the plan, its literally next to the flats and after the kampung
I wonder would they have access road to mid valley or not
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PPR....Not exactly what you expect...
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Nadi residences

1050 sq ft

3 bedroom 2 bathrooms

Nice project

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Nadi residences

1050 sq ft

3 bedroom 2 bathrooms

Nice project
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This is new project or the already built ? the already built that is not accessible from the highway, and need to go in from Bakar Batu...


ok I go google... the building I am talking about are the Flats, while you are talking about new development right beside the ones already built and was actually empty for quite a long time.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:00 PM)
This is new project or the already built ? the already built that is not accessible from the highway, and need to go in from Bakar Batu...
ok I go google... the building I am talking about are the Flats, while you are talking about new development right beside the ones already built and was actually empty for quite a long time.
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This Nadi Residences just opposite mid valley southkey....

Beside PPR Flat

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This Nadi Residences just opposite mid valley southkey....

Beside PPR Flat
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it may seem convenient, but the highway infront, jam like crazy, for all the vehicles going towards Permas Jaya and also congestion when going towards CIQ and the opposite direction is jam as crazy going towards Nasa, DatoOnn, Setia Tropika.

think of like, for Skudai at the Paradigm mall.


what is the masterplan for going into the development? if via Kampung Bakar Batu... than... you will have to see how the small road fairs.


They need at least another entry before the entrance to flyover to Midvalley, and that entrance need to have both entry and exit, so you can fly over to Southkey without being congested together with people going to Permas Jaya.



Edit: much like the Paradigm mall's entrance that can be used to go to Bukit Merah.

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 11:39 AM)
yea, but as u can see from the plan, its literally next to the flats and after the kampung
I wonder would they have access road to mid valley or not
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Those kampung landed houses are on very narrow roads with many sharp corners, right?

From what I know, Bus T21 (JB Sentral - Permas Jaya) needs to use this road to get to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.

Many cars also use this road and drive very fast.


Kampung Bakar Batu

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497849...Y_Lc0VYuLnqnbcw



https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497131...YeLhruiWFMZ1V-A



Jalan Pantai

user posted image

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Those kampung landed houses are on very narrow roads with many sharp corners, right?

From what I know, Bus T21 (JB Sentral - Permas Jaya) needs to use this road to get to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.

Many cars also use this road and drive very fast.
Kampung Bakar Batu

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497849...Y_Lc0VYuLnqnbcw
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497131...YeLhruiWFMZ1V-A
Jalan Pantai

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actually not this kampung I think, there is another before it
this one have to come in from suria, the jalan mostly flower

seldom ppl know tat road, its from jln Tebrau n exit Bayu permas
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:15 PM)
it may seem convenient, but the highway infront, jam like crazy, for all the vehicles going towards Permas Jaya and also congestion when going towards CIQ and the opposite direction is jam as crazy going towards Nasa, DatoOnn, Setia Tropika.

think of like, for Skudai at the Paradigm mall.
what is the masterplan for going into the development? if via Kampung Bakar Batu... than... you will have to see how the small road fairs.
They need at least another entry before the entrance to flyover to Midvalley, and that entrance need to have both entry and exit, so you can fly over to Southkey without being congested together with people going to Permas Jaya.
Edit: much like the Paradigm mall's entrance that can be used to go to Bukit Merah.
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This is KL Eco City (just beside Mid Valley KL)

I think Mid Valley Southkey JB and Paradigm Mall JB should have many flyover or interchange for easier access to the mall entrances and exits.

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/11/...destrian-bridge


Owing to poor planning and delays, the bridge has taken 20 years to materialise.

Since 1999, commuters have been unable to access Mid Valley KL from the Abdullah Hukum LRT Station, which sits just across the river.



Hope Southkey Mid Valley do not like Mid Valley KL,need 20 years to solve a problem...

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Is Kampung Bakar Batu a shortcut from Mid Valley Southkey to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya?

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:30 PM)
actually not this kampung I think, there is another before it
this one have to come in from suria, the jalan mostly flower

seldom ppl know tat road, its from jln Tebrau n exit Bayu permas
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Google maps show this ....


Kampung Bakar Batu is a shortcut from Mid Valley Southkey to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.


Do you know the name of the kampung?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:34 PM)
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Google maps show this ....
Kampung Bakar Batu is a shortcut from Mid Valley Southkey to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.
Do you know the name of the kampung?
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Nope, I have not taken any shortcuts from kampung bakar Batu.

Instead the people living in there is always trying to exit and go towards South key ... That is one of the worst exits for the people staying there.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:41 PM)
Nope, I have not taken any shortcuts from kampung bakar Batu.

Instead the people living in there is always trying to exit and go towards South key ... That is one of the worst exits for the people staying there.
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early days like decades ago we used the kampung to go to permas
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:42 PM)
early days like decades ago we used the kampung to go to permas
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Yeah, possible but the jam is so bad already plus bayu puteri have so much highrise, so if you factor in the flats being occupied... And now the new development.... People are not going to be happy.

Permas bridge probably needs to be 4 lanes each way or have additional 4 lanes that also contraflow.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:47 PM)
Yeah, possible but the jam is so bad already plus bayu puteri have so much highrise, so if you factor in the flats being occupied... And now the new development.... People are not going to be happy.

Permas bridge probably needs to be 4 lanes each way or have additional 4 lanes that also contraflow.
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the bridge bottle neck has always been an issue

all bridges sure fark one, later they upgrade to 3 lanes each side also not enough, then songlap again do 4 each side, cannot one shot do aje

personally I think Bayu doesn't contribute to the jam, but with so many developments along the way there, I think its only going to get worst
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:55 PM)
the bridge bottle neck has always been an issue

all bridges sure fark one, later they upgrade to 3 lanes each side also not enough, then songlap again do 4 each side, cannot one shot do aje

personally I think Bayu doesn't contribute to the jam, but with so many developments along the way there, I think its only going to get worst
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I would think that traffic light beneath the bridge 3-4 way, should implement a round about, and during peak hours, the entry into the round-about need to have traffic light, that way smoother. Each side can go for four minutes of continuous flow, than take turns. Cannot do a roundabout with completely no traffic lights, and cannot do those stupid high bumps that slow the traffic too much when people need to speed a little to help clear the congestion...not slow down.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 01:08 PM)
I would think that traffic light beneath the bridge 3-4 way, should implement a round about, and during peak hours, the entry into the round-about need to have traffic light, that way smoother. Each side can go for four minutes of continuous flow, than take turns. Cannot do a roundabout with completely no traffic lights, and cannot do those stupid high bumps that slow the traffic too much when people need to speed a little to help clear the congestion...not slow down.
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I have never seen roundabout with traffic lights here, only sg, I used to laugh at sg drivers dunno how to use roundabout , need traffic light

then when I seen our own msian counterpart using roundabout, gives me high blood every single time
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 01:15 PM)
I have never seen roundabout with traffic lights here, only sg, I used to laugh at sg drivers dunno how to use roundabout , need traffic light

then when I seen our own msian counterpart using roundabout, gives me high blood every single time
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Well I have never seen any roundabouts that have traffic lights, to be honest. But I logically thought that is a solution for how people either refuse to give way, or how, when one side is super aggressive and you have one other side with one timid driver Infront that have no confidence to move into the crash zone.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 01:20 PM)
Well I have never seen any roundabouts that have traffic lights, to be honest. But I logically thought that is a solution for how people either refuse to give way, or how, when one side is super aggressive and you have one other side with one timid driver Infront that have no confidence to move into the crash zone.
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Good idea though

yea, in SG they have it
works like a charm it seems, but full day on traffic lights, maybe diff time intervals during peak hours
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 01:22 PM)
Good idea though

yea, in SG they have it
works like a charm it seems, but full day on traffic lights, maybe diff time intervals during peak hours
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 11:39 AM)
yea, but as u can see from the plan, its literally next to the flats and after the kampung
I wonder would they have access road to mid valley or not
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I guess if MV wants to keep their land price high. lol.
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I guess if MV wants to keep their land price high. lol.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:47 PM)
Yeah, possible but the jam is so bad already plus bayu puteri have so much highrise, so if you factor in the flats being occupied... And now the new development.... People are not going to be happy.

Permas bridge probably needs to be 4 lanes each way or have additional 4 lanes that also contraflow.
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Permas bridge used to be one bridge only. 2lanes - one lane in, one lane out.

Then upgrade, build another bridge. The existing bridge towards permas is the older of the two.

So become 4 lanes. But what happen is the Bakar batu junction problem was never fully resolved.

During the dinosaur year, coming from southkey direction, the traffic needs to passby that jalan pantai, basically cross a bit into the village, and exit at the current entrance into bakar batu. This created massive jam.

Then after they redevelop the whole junction to the current form, another 2 problems occurs. That cacat cross juction that looks like 2 T junction kissing each other.

From permas, exiting the road without going up to EDL or coming from town, all bottle neck in that bloody junction. So again, the bridge jam.

They should have create another flyover ease the traffic to EDL/PLUS north. But somehow the authority in JB is big with creating junctions and traffic light. Totally ridiculous.

Same like what happen at the current EDL exit to JB near the immigration for vehicles. Totally ridiculous jam.

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:30 PM)
actually not this kampung I think, there is another before it
this one have to come in from suria, the jalan mostly flower

seldom ppl know tat road, its from jln Tebrau n exit Bayu permas
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This road is very dangerous. It is essentially kampung road with better tar.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 14 2024, 02:31 PM)
This road is very dangerous. It is essentially kampung road with better tar.
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just beware of the surroundings, been using it quite frequent since the traffic at Bakar batu is horrendous, Waze will guide you to use that route

n yes, better tarred kampung roads hahahaha
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penuh geng singki inside mall..
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 14 2024, 02:31 PM)
This road is very dangerous. It is essentially kampung road with better tar.
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Kampung Bakar Batu

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497849...Y_Lc0VYuLnqnbcw



https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497131...YeLhruiWFMZ1V-A



Jalan Pantai

user posted image


From jalan pantai, you can reach here

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.496872...a3rOHRTZ1YcEvVQ

And go to Perodua Sales Gallery [ Jalan Bayu Puteri, Taman Bayu Puteri, 80150 Permas Jaya ] , and permas jaya bridge...


Am I corrrect?

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JB very seedy. I stayed at one of the hotels there got "ayam" menu in the room. My family shocked liao.
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JB very seedy. I stayed at one of the hotels there got "ayam" menu in the room. My family shocked liao.
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JB very seedy. I stayed at one of the hotels there got "ayam" menu in the room. My family shocked liao.
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Please show the menu photo at here......

I suspect .....
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2024, 08:15 PM)
Kampung Bakar Batu

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497849...Y_Lc0VYuLnqnbcw
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497131...YeLhruiWFMZ1V-A
Jalan Pantai

user posted image
From jalan pantai, you can reach here

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.496872...a3rOHRTZ1YcEvVQ

And go to Perodua Sales Gallery [  Jalan Bayu Puteri, Taman Bayu Puteri, 80150 Permas Jaya ] , and permas jaya bridge...
Am I corrrect?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:20 AM)
The upper left road is actually a flyover into southkey.

I think they need an extra exit flyover further away. To avoid bakar batu/edl combo jam.

I forget there is a small exit to the north of EDL. But this one will be a difficult exit if bakar batu traffic volume is high.

Coming soon, the roundabout on the left of the map, will open to another side of the southkey area. It should elevate the jam a bit but those seeking for a quick path to bakar batu and edl wont be benefited much.

Both actually. If Jln Skudai too jam, paradigm mall ppl either take the taman road to escape or jam into jln skudai. But because the car park design is not very good, the jam is more likely to be internal during peak hours.

If come from JB side, then the flyover into paradigm mall is famous for jam due to the volume enter, even if jln skudai is not jam.
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Many people said this paradigm mall johor bahru was haunted in the past...


Now, when they go inside, they still feel uneasy. I just feel that the air conditioning in this mall is extremely cold.






https://www.google.com/amp/s/mustsharenews....gm-mall-jb/amp/



https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/....7098212/page-2



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**January 19, 2025** A **30-year-old Thai woman** was found deceased in the **female restroom** at **Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru** around **2:30 PM**. Blood stains and a pair of bloodied shoes were discovered. The police classified it as a **sudden death** case and are investigating.


**Location of Incident** The female restroom where the **January 2025** incident occurred is on the **4th floor, next to McDonald's**. [According to hardwarezone forum sg


**Mall's Response** **Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru** expressed deep sorrow over the incident, is cooperating with authorities, and urged the public to **avoid speculation** out of respect for the deceased.




**November 6, 2024** **Oriental Kopi** opened a new outlet at **Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru**, **Level G**. The cafΓ© operates from **9 AM daily**, serving a variety of food and beverages.

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QUOTE(Manuk1188 @ Nov 8 2024, 07:24 AM)
Johor Maju !!
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Haiz...

Some malls in JB are not doing very well......

Komtar JBCC mall's business is doing poorly.

It has a great locationβ€”right next to JB Customsβ€”but the lifts and floor tiles are subpar.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2025, 04:39 AM)
Haiz...

Some malls in JB are not doing very well......

Komtar JBCC mall's business is doing poorly.

It has a great locationβ€”right next to JB Customsβ€”but the lifts and floor tiles are subpar.
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KOMTAR design is totally fail. I think it will thrive even it didnt renovate last tme.
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For Singaporean....Aeon Bukit Indah is the Best!!!
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Mar 4 2025, 08:48 AM)
For Singaporean....Aeon Bukit Indah is the Best!!!
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just renovated right? I thought they go to lotus in KSL normally...
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QUOTE(melt @ Mar 4 2025, 07:53 AM)
just renovated right? I thought they go to lotus in KSL normally...
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Bukit Indah still thier no.1 spot. Everytime got Holiday or Payday...Aeon will be full.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Mar 4 2025, 08:55 AM)
Bukit Indah still thier no.1 spot. Everytime got Holiday or Payday...Aeon will be full.
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very messy area. been there once and the exit was horrible with no proper lanes and q cutters. The roads also jammed.... maybe i am not familiar in which exit/way to use.

why do the sporeans go to this mall? i dont find it interesting
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Went to rent a Airbnb nearby Paradigm Mall.

Went to the Mall itself it's kinda shit compared to MidValley KL mall.
Not sure about Southkey
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QUOTE(renodiy @ Mar 4 2025, 09:46 AM)
very messy area. been there once and the exit was horrible with no proper lanes and q cutters. The roads also jammed.... maybe i am not familiar in which exit/way to use.

why do the sporeans go to this mall? i dont find it interesting
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From the west side, AEON Bukit Indah is the nearest mall to residential areas mostly populated by ppl work or related to sg, and the 2nd link. Cukup la untuk orang2 yg malas jam.
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Nov 14 2024, 08:19 PM)
JB very seedy. I stayed at one of the hotels there got "ayam" menu in the room. My family shocked liao.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Mar 4 2025, 08:42 AM)
KOMTAR design is totally fail. I think it will thrive even it didnt renovate last tme.
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May you explain more about Komtar JBCC mall design?
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QUOTE(iSean @ Mar 4 2025, 09:55 AM)
Went to rent a Airbnb nearby Paradigm Mall.

Went to the Mall itself it's kinda shit compared to MidValley KL mall.
Not sure about Southkey
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Why you feel paradigm mall johor bahru no good?

Parking area?

Jam?

Shop?


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I think komtar jbcc getting traction now, lots of new fnb outlets, and doing it on ground floor instead of high floors
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:38 PM)
I think komtar jbcc getting traction now, lots of new fnb outlets, and doing it on ground floor instead of high floors
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Arashi,kinsashi,tea garden,richeese factory,coffee bean & tea leaf,vivo pizza , Roti Coffee, manzanita, pezzo ?


https://www.facebook.com/100064910160898/po...x4GtKl/?app=fbl

But floor tiles still using some thick carpet to cover?

When you step on it,you know it is crack....

Almlst like UTC kotaraya johor bahru

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:42 PM)
Arashi,kinsashi,tea garden,richeese factory,coffee bean & tea leaf,vivo pizza , Roti Coffee, manzanita, pezzo ?
https://www.facebook.com/100064910160898/po...x4GtKl/?app=fbl

But floor tiles still using some thick carpet to cover?

When you step on it,you know it is crack....

Almlst like UTC kotaraya johor bahru
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never noticed the carpet covered tiles

but the office building has mnc tenants, big players
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:53 PM)
never noticed the carpet covered tiles

but the office building has mnc tenants, big players
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I only know this


Pwc

Beside johor old temple

Menara Ansar,
Level 16,
Jalan Trus,
80000 Johor Bahru,
Johor


May you share some big mnc tenants in Menara Komtar?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2025, 03:56 PM)
I only know this
Pwc

Beside johor old temple

Menara Ansar,
Level 16,
Jalan Trus,
80000 Johor Bahru,
Johor
May you share some big mnc tenants in Menara Komtar?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 4 2025, 04:14 PM)
but the occupancy rate is too low.....
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:31 PM)
May you explain more about Komtar JBCC mall design?
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Nobody will purposely walk to KOMTAR if you already have CS nearer to the Custom. And it is not connected by directly by any pathway between them.

With the buses not longer stopping in Ah Fook street, there is not enough footprint for KOMTAR location.

Then come the services of the mall itself. Not much different than CS. Moving between the floors are just weird. The lift position is not intuitive, the escalators are not fixed to a location. It is not friendly for ppl to walk.

I am not sure but is the central toilet is still need to walk down one storey?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Mar 5 2025, 09:35 AM)
Nobody will purposely walk to KOMTAR if you already have CS nearer to the Custom. And it is not connected by directly by any pathway between them.

With the buses not longer stopping in Ah Fook street, there is not enough footprint for KOMTAR location.

Then come the services of the mall itself. Not much different than CS. Moving between the floors are just weird. The lift position is not intuitive, the escalators are not fixed to a location. It is not friendly for ppl to walk.

I am not sure but is the central toilet is still need to walk down one storey?
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There are linked bridge between CS and Komtar JBCC....
Yes.

The toilet design is strange.....

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 5 2025, 01:31 PM)
There are linled bridge between CS and Komtar JBCC....
Yes.

The toilet design is strange.....
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ah, yea, the one facing the railway station. added later. forget about that one.

i personally think that if komtar maintains its more down to earth standard like the past, it will have better chance to thrive.
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Large section of ceiling suddenly collapses at JB’s KSL City Mall, sends shoppers into panic
https://mustsharenews.com/ksl-city-mall-ceiling-collapse/
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Mar 10 2025, 08:25 AM)
Large section of ceiling suddenly collapses at JB’s KSL City Mall, sends shoppers into panic
https://mustsharenews.com/ksl-city-mall-ceiling-collapse/
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WCT RM 0.635




WCT - Notice of Rights Entitlement (Ratio)

WCT HOLDINGS BERHAD

Proposed restricted offer for sale of up to 194,862,500 units in Paradigm Real Estate Investment Trust ("Restricted Offer Units") by WCT Hartanah Jaya Sdn Bhd to the shareholders of WCT Holdings Berhad ("WCTH") on the basis of 1 Restricted Offer Unit for

every 8 existing ordinary shares in WCTH


held on the entitlement date ("Proposed Restricted Offering")



Kindly be advised of the following :



1) The above Company’s securities will be traded and quoted β€œ<EX-OFFER>” as from: 13 May 2025

2) The last date of lodgment : 14 May 2025


Soon paradigm reits will be listed on Bursa
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https://www.sinchew.com.my/news/20250625/finance/6645825


WCT HOLDINGS BERHAD
KLSE (MYR): WCT (9679)


WCT HOLDINGS BERHAD
KLSE (MYR): WCT (9679)


Paradigm Mall JB just listed in Bursa


PARADIGM REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST
KLSE (MYR): PARADIGM (5338)




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Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru (JB) opened its doors to the public on 28 November 2017.


Now IGB Reits finally will buy Mid Valley JB Southkey from IGB BHD......


Same in 2025



IGB BHD (5606)


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Property details. Opened in 2019, MVSM has an NLA of 1.5m sq ft (Mid Valley Megamall: 1.8m sq ft, The Gardens Mall: 834k sq ft) comprising five levels of retail mall and a 10-level carpark, all located within an integrated mixed commercial development known as Mid Valley Southkey in Johor Bahru.


The mixed development also consists of two blocks of high-rise Grade A office towers on top of the mall, as well as St. Giles Southkey, which is a 4-star hotel.


The mall offers a diverse range of tenants with luxury boutiques, international brands, as well as fitness and wellness brands, and the list of its anchor tenants includes SOGO, Village Grocer, Golden Screen Cinemas, and Aurum Theatre. Currently, the mall has an occupancy rate of 95%

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Mar 5 2025, 01:34 PM)
ah, yea, the one facing the railway station. added later. forget about that one.

i personally think that if komtar maintains its more down to earth standard like the past, it will have better chance to thrive.
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If RTS station have a link bridge to Komtar JBCC,then it will be nice....


Al-Salam Reits said so many years but do nothing
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:38 PM)
I think komtar jbcc getting traction now, lots of new fnb outlets, and doing it on ground floor instead of high floors
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https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3611323



Finally mid valley is sell to igb reits....


Ratio (New : Existing) 182.0000 : 1,000.0000



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QUOTE(ikr99 @ Nov 8 2024, 02:58 AM)
Mid Valley Southkey > IKEA > Paradigm Mall JB period
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Company: Paradigm REIT (PARADIGM, 5338)

Quarter: FY2025, Q3

Q3 Revenue: RM 58.268 million


Q3 Net Profit: RM 28.975 million


First 9 Months Revenue: RM 71.442 million

First 9 Months Net Profit: RM 35.481 million


Listing Status: Listed for less than one year, no previous data for comparison
Outlook: Management remains cautious due to downgraded economic growth forecast, but will continue proactive asset management to ensure stable income distribution for unitholders

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:38 PM)
I think komtar jbcc getting traction now, lots of new fnb outlets, and doing it on ground floor instead of high floors
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5547344&hl=

do you know this?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 25 2025, 04:41 PM)
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3611323
Finally mid valley is sell to igb reits....
Ratio (New : Existing) 182.0000 : 1,000.0000
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I tot this was sometime already ?
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Semua same same. Boring lah
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:35 AM)
I tot this was sometime already ?
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Now it is 100% completed
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QUOTE(PakMaz @ Nov 28 2025, 03:00 PM)
Semua same same. Boring lah
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Now I think sutera mall is best.

A lot of parking spaces.

Free parking

Some more got public bus now
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jul 2 2025, 06:02 PM)
If RTS station have a link bridge to Komtar JBCC,then it will be nice....
Al-Salam Reits said so many years but do nothing
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Under planning stage. It’s confirmed

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QUOTE(deano_cole @ Dec 13 2025, 08:39 PM)
Under planning stage. It’s confirmed
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Any official news?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2025, 02:42 PM)
Arashi,kinsashi,tea garden,richeese factory,coffee bean & tea leaf,vivo pizza , Roti Coffee, manzanita, pezzo ?
https://www.facebook.com/100064910160898/po...x4GtKl/?app=fbl

But floor tiles still using some thick carpet to cover?

When you step on it,you know it is crack....

Almlst like UTC kotaraya johor bahru
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New anchor tenant is coming.
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QUOTE(deano_cole @ Dec 13 2025, 08:50 PM)
New anchor tenant is coming.
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What is the tenant?


Food and beverage?


What i know is must be halal.

If no halal cert,cannot rent at there.



Anyway,floor tiles issues solved?



Almost like UTC galleria jb mall


I think even 2030 still same....

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Komtar jbcc still use parking ticket system right?

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