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 Residensi Wilayah JSatin, Block C crack, structural failure

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post Nov 11 2024, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(fumitachi @ Nov 11 2024, 03:48 PM)
I think there is one case that affordable housing at Jelutong, Penang.
It has to demolish due to safety reason.

https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2020/08/...-safety-reason/
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oh.. didnt notice it was gone after MCO.. hahahaha..
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post Nov 11 2024, 07:10 PM

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post Nov 11 2024, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Nov 11 2024, 06:43 PM)
Platinum Victor's values not building good building right? How come their values can sweep under the carpet when it comes to cost involments?
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If companies honor their "company values"

And the market takes their word for it

Then I should change industry to sell properties blush.gif
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post Nov 11 2024, 08:00 PM

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pity the buyers...really kns bad luck like this...
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post Nov 11 2024, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Nov 11 2024, 09:00 PM)
pity the buyers...really kns bad luck like this...
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And one of the project use value engineering for their structure.
Y18 become y16 .

Back then engineers always over design 10-20% for safety purpose .



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post Nov 12 2024, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Nov 11 2024, 03:33 PM)
Where got so easy incept abandoned project. There are hundreds of abandoned projects in M'sia currently, how many govt can and will save ?
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thats why nowadays you need to go viral if want it to get solved. laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2024, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Nov 11 2024, 09:22 AM)
If you are the developer, and when you see the costs of doing so and then your company P&L, guarantee you will have second thoughts about it.

"Can fix or not"
"How much is to fix it to minimal acceptable quality"
"If we just add support can tahan or not"
Not true, viral creates panic but for the right reason. Awareness.

No awareness means sweep under the rug until someone dies.
Yup, some /k can talk cuck because they don't own there / they don't stay in such places / they are involved somewhat with developers in their daily lives.
Whereas engineering companies can always just sweep under the rug, blame and then replace the engineer. This is Malaysia.

No earthquake also can have structural failure.

And your response so far, tsk tsk.
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viral then so what? the general public will come help this issue?
will the general public come help the home buyer?

below is the only thing you will get from viral

QUOTE(agility @ Nov 11 2024, 11:13 AM)
Will have a lot of issues for this major failure. Even if they can fix and some poor sap is willing to stay in it, nobody will insure it. Also will devalue immediately.
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post Nov 12 2024, 07:44 AM

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What is the devoper's previous project? Is this their virgin project?
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(BoomerangCircles @ Nov 11 2024, 04:56 PM)
lol… looks so logic.. but hell no.

This is totally different things. This is strengthen.
While the structure already broken. Only way is rebuild.
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this is structural repair.
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Nanti Sekejap @ Nov 11 2024, 03:30 PM)
if rectify liddat local council also dare to issue cf/ccc, then the developer sure has to organise big big trick or treat haloween party to give big big candy, lol
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not yet concrete, later concrete they will sell again, people will notice the bigger support pillar, it is in the contract clause that there might be small % in size difference, buyer's balls kena hold liao....


QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 11 2024, 03:33 PM)
But they need to fix the failed foundation first
How to fix the failed pile?
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foundation usually solid, but structure lain cerita, especially when they use chemical mix instead of full concrete and heavy rebar. hence the building crack when it lean one side
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Nov 12 2024, 07:15 AM)
thats why nowadays you need to go viral if want it to get solved. laugh.gif
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viral also no use la. google residensi hektar gombak. i'm quite sure it's 100% bumi buyer from the comments in social media.

government also don't wanna help blush.gif
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Nov 11 2024, 10:49 AM)
this type of design, those buy facing inside and lower floors would not have much of a breeze
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newer house layout very cramp. no balcony whatsoever. air flow dem bad sometimes the second room also dem gloomy due to stupid layout.
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(fookie @ Nov 12 2024, 08:31 AM)
viral also no use la. google residensi hektar gombak. i'm quite sure it's 100% bumi buyer from the comments in social media.

government also don't wanna help blush.gif
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that one already classified as sick project already. really GG

https://malaysiagazette.com/2024/01/23/proj...kategori-sakit/

http://paragreneland.com.my

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QUOTE(fookie @ Nov 12 2024, 08:31 AM)
viral also no use la. google residensi hektar gombak. i'm quite sure it's 100% bumi buyer from the comments in social media.

government also don't wanna help blush.gif
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rumahwip no one care??

https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...google_vignette
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Nov 12 2024, 08:47 AM)
u see my reply above

summore the company ada hati mau masuk Bursa

https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/propert...oat-main-market

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 7): Property developer Paragrene Land Bhd is to float on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia, with the funds raised from the exercise to be used to pay for project development expenses.
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post Nov 12 2024, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(fookie @ Nov 12 2024, 08:31 AM)
viral also no use la. google residensi hektar gombak. i'm quite sure it's 100% bumi buyer from the comments in social media.

government also don't wanna help blush.gif
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two of my kolik bought this one. so kesian one.
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post Nov 12 2024, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Nov 12 2024, 08:47 AM)
Lol. Rumahwip 2017, the last few of the old national housing framework

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 12 2024, 09:04 AM
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post Nov 12 2024, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(novblaze @ Nov 12 2024, 07:39 AM)
viral then so what? the general public will come help this issue?
will the general public come help the home buyer?

below is the only thing you will get from viral
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I mean you should re-read the term, awareness.

Awareness in the sense that the public should be aware of the developer, main con, sub con involved so public can know which to avoid or becareful with. Risk management then can be done appropriately i.e. Pre-purchase insurance, check agreement properly before signing.

Awareness in the sense that the public will take note of the cracks, understanding which one is detrimental and which is aesthetics. i.e. The difference between Shear wall crack vs load bearing core cracks. Thus, prevent future misinformation.

Awareness in the sense that public will also be in the know for any developers (rather than their known subsidiaries that are wind up), of past wrongdoings, if any. Self explanatory.

Awareness in the manner that the developer, main con and sub con, will take heed of the design flaws if any, scrutinize the material package and loading package, if any. At the very least, they would know which material did not work. Self explanatory.

Awareness in the sense that DBKL or any city council, will proactively ensure that the safety of the site check is mandatory by any future projects. Again, self explanatory.

If we are to use your logic of "so what?"

Then there is no reason to improve on anything that is broken no? Air plane crash investigation, no need to do; Misappropriation by funds, no need to do; Online scam and frauds, no need to share info. Go viral can do what for the people that is being scammed? TO SPREAD AWARENESS SO OTHERS WONT KENA IN FUTURE.

Also, while you are at it, you should reflect on yourself too. If you don't think that the awareness is important to you or the people around you, ignore. Easy. You won't even have to press a button, scroll through.

But by you sharing your "so what?" ideology, shows your ignorance in general.

Troll all you want, you can only type so loud because you weren't the one impacted nor you have anything to do with property at this time being.

But once you are in their shoes, then your perspective changes. Deny, project, dismiss all you want. I don't have to explain further, you have a long life ahead, and it won't be all sunshine and rainbows, thus so you would then remember the days, where you hoped that someone had reminded you so you did not have to commit to that mistake.
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post Nov 12 2024, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Nov 11 2024, 02:28 PM)
they will dig and reinforce the foundation, then buy back certain units and install additional load bearing support bracing so the side will not buckle....

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those who get buy back will be lucky, those who did not might have to pray hard
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the picture refers to strengthening work to strengthen old building or to add more strength to new additional floors.

how about structure that has sunk in by 100-200mm or more?

hydraulic jack 44floors with massive weight on it?. ohmy.gif

Right now the building has sunk in by its own weight, if add live load once purchaser stay it. how? ohmy.gif

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one day the whole block C will collapse on its own weight, in the process of crushing down will bring along all other blocks nearby together like a domino effect.

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