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No more 'quota system' for state-owned unis
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azarimy
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Nov 4 2024, 08:34 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Nov 4 2024, 05:10 AM) Merit with manipulation of race based pre U matriculation backdoor program. If the meritrocracy system is really working, how come plenty of unemployment / underemployed type m graduate. It is open market in real world Reality is harsh..... But it is what it is . . . . . . . . . . . Confirm 1st reason given is need mandarin speaker. Tongkat mentality is embedded in most You're confusing intake merit vs employability.
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abelyap
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Nov 4 2024, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 4 2024, 08:34 AM) You're confusing intake merit vs employability. Topkek.... Employability have been part of university performance measurement. Either the university performance worsening, else garbage in garbage out..... Ur choice Pusing jangan tak pusing.
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Nov 4 2024, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 4 2024, 05:12 AM) huh?? before this, private uni also got quota system??? State gov just bought/ in the process of taking over those few private u. The objective is to make them more affordable without quota.
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azarimy
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Nov 4 2024, 09:33 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Nov 4 2024, 08:38 AM) Topkek.... Employability have been part of university performance measurement. Either the university performance worsening, else garbage in garbage out..... Ur choice Pusing jangan tak pusing. I didn't deny it is part of the performance measurement. But you are directly relating intake merits and employability. It does not directly correlate, so stop being an idiot.
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vearn29
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Nov 4 2024, 09:34 AM
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Inkambing Zerg rush, later minority will cry for quota
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abelyap
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Nov 4 2024, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 4 2024, 09:33 AM) I didn't deny it is part of the performance measurement. But you are directly relating intake merits and employability. It does not directly correlate, so stop being an idiot. Duh, use logic instead of rhetoric Be more convincing instead name calling.... It is childish u know
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brkli
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Nov 4 2024, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(@@@@@@@@@@ @ Nov 4 2024, 08:39 AM) State gov just bought/ in the process of taking over those few private u. The objective is to make them more affordable without quota.cukurlah, next time non from semenanjung can send there will affordable price, as long as result is good.
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Drian
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Nov 4 2024, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 3 2024, 06:49 AM) We are merit based. But we are also limited in places. You can do the maths: 20 public universities, 100 places each, but 4000 candidates with 3.80 and above. Half of those wouldn't get their first choice. And by the time they get to their 2nd choice, it'll already be filled by 1st choicers. Then 3rd, and 4th and so on. https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/07/...y-says-pm-anwarThe prime minister itself is claiming there is a quota and not merit based, and now you're saying that it is merit based. Who is telling the truth now?
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azarimy
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Nov 4 2024, 11:28 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 4 2024, 10:41 AM) https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/07/...y-says-pm-anwarThe prime minister itself is claiming there is a quota and not merit based, and now you're saying that it is merit based. Who is telling the truth now? He was talking about MATRIKULASI. Please read the full article.
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DoomCognition
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Nov 4 2024, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 2 2024, 06:36 PM) Public unis dah stop race-based quota in 2007. Please get up to date with the programme. Not really. If you define Public Unis are how the government describe it, then yes. If you define Public Unis as universities funded by public money, then no. There is a separate track that has been conveniently excluded in all government statistics whenever the term Public Unis are used - Mara and the UiTMs.
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coyouth
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Nov 4 2024, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Nov 2 2024, 02:54 PM) sarawak only i guess. sabah i don't think as progressive as sarawak.
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giftfre
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Nov 4 2024, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Nov 2 2024, 02:58 PM) Meanwhile Perlis is busy with Loh's children conversion issue Forget about state in East Malaysia. S&S parliament seats qty will dominate total politic one day. And like it or not, PAS need to follow.
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shadow_walker
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Nov 4 2024, 11:40 AM
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yeah all those kids that have to go to school by boat or rafts will definitely loose out here
sohai rich kids from kuching..or gangster sohai sons from sibu will get that place instead...fark all those long houses people..topkek
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Nov 4 2024, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 4 2024, 11:40 AM) yeah all those kids that have to go to school by boat or rafts will definitely loose out here sohai rich kids from kuching..or gangster sohai sons from sibu will get that place instead...fark all those long houses people..topkek Then build more / increase intake until anyone who wants to enroll, can enroll.
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spursfan
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Nov 4 2024, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Nov 2 2024, 03:14 PM) I did not say to slow down talented kids, as you can verify in my 2nd comment. My comment raise the thought of how about slow kids ? dah slow, masuk uitm je la.
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Drian
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Nov 4 2024, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 4 2024, 11:28 AM) He was talking about MATRIKULASI. Please read the full article. I did , in fact the title itself refers to public universities. https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/07/...y-says-pm-anwar Quota system in public universities to stay, says PM AnwarThe quota system for Bumiputera students should be retained to maintain the racial balance in local public institutions of higher learning.Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said any effort to do away with the system would lead towards imbalance of Malay students' enrolment into certain programmes in the universities.
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Drian
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Nov 4 2024, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 4 2024, 11:28 AM) He was talking about MATRIKULASI. Please read the full article. https://360info.org/can-malaysias-public-un...-racial-quotas/How bout this one , also talking about public universities. I find it surprising that you claim there is no racial quota in university, when every news outlet and everyone in public knows this is happening. This post has been edited by Drian: Nov 4 2024, 01:08 PM
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Redhunt
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Nov 4 2024, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 03:19 PM) You’ll be surprised how many dumbfucks are in the unis, because their academic achievements do not show as such. Rote learning at its best. But yeah, my point is these rich kids with various supports will get free tertiary education as well as disadvantaged poor tree people. Meritocracy ftw! eh, tree ppl have grants , sponsorships and scholarships, ok.
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pandah
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Nov 4 2024, 01:03 PM
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Why unimas not included?
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azarimy
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Nov 4 2024, 01:23 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 4 2024, 12:54 PM) I did , in fact the title itself refers to public universities. https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/07/...y-says-pm-anwar Quota system in public universities to stay, says PM AnwarThe quota system for Bumiputera students should be retained to maintain the racial balance in local public institutions of higher learning.Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said any effort to do away with the system would lead towards imbalance of Malay students' enrolment into certain programmes in the universities. Seriously, go find all other sources. He was talking in context of MATRIKULASI. Matrikulasi is Pra-universiti. Although some matriculations are conducted on university campus, they are not under the purview of the IPTAs. Matrikulasi have a racial quota of 90:10. IPTAs do not have a racial quota since 2002/20023. I challenge you to find facts that says so. Here's my proof, Item 3. https://www.mohe.gov.my/hebahan/kenyataan-m...demik-2020-2021
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