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post Oct 14 2024, 11:24 AM, updated 2y ago

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A friend just asked me this:

"Imagine if you are a woman, you see 2 potential guys.

Guy A looks rich af. Drives a BM, dresses damn formal with suits everywhere he goes. Name card is a Senior Manager of a company.

Guy B is simple, drives like a Perodua Aruz or a Proton X70, wears smart casual everywhere he goes. Name card is also a Senior Manager of a company

If follow women's mindset, Guy A is richer but what if at the back, Guy A is struggling to pay off all the loans he took for his car, his credit cards for expensive clothing while B is carefree and has spare cash all around, is A still richer?"

So my question here is how do women "first impression" sees a guy if he is rich and successful?
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post Oct 14 2024, 11:26 AM

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Senior Manager of an MNC is different from a Senior Manager of ABC Enterprise brows.gif
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post Oct 14 2024, 11:36 AM

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Smart girl will assess the social circle around the guys 1st.

Not so smart girl will jump to A.
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post Oct 14 2024, 11:44 AM

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successful without emotional aspect also not balanced
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post Oct 14 2024, 11:59 AM

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If women know how to determine, then we would not have so many being scammed.
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post Oct 14 2024, 03:14 PM

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It depends on how the female is being raised up, if she used to be poor and want to climb on men shoulders to gain popularity and power thats fine too, but having just material success doenst equivalent to a person being truly successful in the soul

maybe via the perspective of societal norm, because the government want these people to pay taxes to survive.
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post Oct 14 2024, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Oct 14 2024, 11:24 AM)
A friend just asked me this:

"Imagine if you are a woman, you see 2 potential guys.

Guy A looks rich af. Drives a BM, dresses damn formal with suits everywhere he goes. Name card is a Senior Manager of a company.

Guy B is simple, drives like a Perodua Aruz or a Proton X70, wears smart casual everywhere he goes. Name card is also a Senior Manager of a company

If follow women's mindset, Guy A is richer but what if at the back, Guy A is struggling to pay off all the loans he took for his car, his credit cards for expensive clothing while B is carefree and has spare cash all around, is A still richer?"

So my question here is how do women "first impression" sees a guy if he is rich and successful?
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Women don't just look at the guy, they also look at everyone else around the guy

First impressions are good, but it only lasts a while, if you can't carry on your first impression then it will fade fast.
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post Oct 14 2024, 09:06 PM

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post Oct 14 2024, 10:03 PM

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Your description only covers the monetary aspect. This wall of text thread by lady sifu Ralna discussed what it means to be "top", or "successful" in your case. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5486344

So the question is, how to identify "successful" attributes? Some are intrinsic values that aren't visible outwardly, but if you only want to focus on money then I can ask you the exact same: how do YOU as a man, identify a rich person?

It's the same regardless of gender innit? You look for luxuries on the person... so many who WANT to be identified as such will do the exact same: get those luxuries. But again, we all know by now that's just the surface: true riches won't flaunt their wealth, so how? You gotta get to know the person to learn more lor. Unless you're gold digger or salesman where your job is to smell wealth, I don't know of any shortcuts.
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post Oct 14 2024, 10:58 PM

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I drive a pleb car, and thats probably why as policy I dont pick girls up for the first few dates. I do have a nice house though, which I used to full advantage when I was wooing my gf.

A nice home in a good neighbourhood, tasteful furniture, tidy and clean. Easily beats a merc or bmw in the impression game. Not to mention being a better financial investment.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Oct 14 2024, 10:59 PM
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post Oct 15 2024, 08:17 AM

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u see all those news about ladies who have been scammed

u can learn from those scammers

basically u need to do both

- need to flaunt your wealth

and

- need to sweet talk

then they will be attracted to you, even without meeting you face-to-face
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post Oct 15 2024, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Oct 14 2024, 10:03 PM)
Your description only covers the monetary aspect. This wall of text thread by lady sifu Ralna discussed what it means to be "top", or "successful" in your case. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5486344

So the question is, how to identify "successful" attributes? Some are intrinsic values that aren't visible outwardly, but if you only want to focus on money then I can ask you the exact same: how do YOU as a man, identify a rich person?

It's the same regardless of gender innit? You look for luxuries on the person... so many who WANT to be identified as such will do the exact same: get those luxuries. But again, we all know by now that's just the surface: true riches won't flaunt their wealth, so how? You gotta get to know the person to learn more lor. Unless you're gold digger or salesman where your job is to smell wealth, I don't know of any shortcuts.
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hehe yes, I super agree with Takudan 100%

Some men deliberately dress modestly and stay super low profile... but they're actually filthy rich. You won't know until you know them long enough and get into their inner circles.

As I age, I've learned not to look at overt wealth (flashy bling bling shiny objects), but stealth wealth.

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Stealth Wealth is Real: 10 Ways the Rich Stay Invisible
September 20, 2024

You meet two brothers out at the bar, Tim and Greg. Tim drives a brand-new Mercedes, shows off his Rolex watch, and buys a round of top-shelf tequila for everyone. The other brother, Greg, drove to the bar in his beat-up minivan from 2010, wearing faded jeans and a t-shirt. He nurses a couple of IPAs. Who do you think is wealthier?

The answer might surprise you. While we tend to associate images of flashy cars and watches with the idea of being rich, most real millionaires practice stealth wealth. They care more about actually having that money in the bank than showing it off, and that’s why they often slip under the radar. In fact, anyone you meet could be a millionaire in disguise, practicing stealth wealth.

What is Stealth Wealth?

The concept of stealth wealth found its roots in the classic book, The Millionaire Next Door, written by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko in 1996. This book examines the lifestyles and habits of real millionaires. And these authors discovered that our preconceived notions about what wealth looks like don’t necessarily match the reality of it.

For example, while we might think that most millionaires would opt to live in affluent neighborhoods, they are disproportionately clustered in middle-class and blue-collar communities. They focus more on investing a large percentage of their household income than on purchasing material items that signal wealth. Even more surprisingly, about 80% of millionaires are entirely self-made, not having received any inheritance money.

It turns out, most millionaires are living that “stealth wealth” life by using their money more intentionally. They trade a high-consumption lifestyle for assets that appreciate, more money in the bank, and a simpler way of life. Practicing stealth wealth helps them accumulate even more money, continuing to grow their wealth. But their lack of public wealth displays makes these millionaires difficult to spot!

Read more: https://www.howtomoney.com/stealth-wealth/


To practise stealth wealth, a man needs to have the top 10% mindset and habits → these are attractive traits to high-tier women.

FYI, high-tier women typically refers to women who embody qualities that are widely admired and respected. These qualities might include confidence, intelligence, emotional maturity, independence, strong values, and a sense of purpose. They often carry themselves with grace, invest in their personal growth, and maintain a balanced lifestyle. In relationships, they seek mutual respect, meaningful connections, and value long-term goals. This term is subjective, and what is considered "high-tier" may vary based on individual preferences and cultural perspectives.

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In my twenties, I used to look for men who were already rich and I attracted several...

but now, in my thirties, I've learned to spot men who have potential to become (multi)millionaires in their lifetime, or are on the way to become one. These men are often quiet, disciplined, grounded, and loyal--- qualities that I like. blush.gif

Generally, men who like to flash wealth are mostly superficial, insecure and want women's attention. They tend to be playboys and attract lots of gold-diggers who throw themselves at them-- these are not the kind of men that I like.

This post has been edited by Ralna: Oct 15 2024, 04:46 PM
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post Oct 15 2024, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Oct 14 2024, 11:24 AM)
A friend just asked me this:

"Imagine if you are a woman, you see 2 potential guys.

Guy A looks rich af. Drives a BM, dresses damn formal with suits everywhere he goes. Name card is a Senior Manager of a company.

Guy B is simple, drives like a Perodua Aruz or a Proton X70, wears smart casual everywhere he goes. Name card is also a Senior Manager of a company

If follow women's mindset, Guy A is richer but what if at the back, Guy A is struggling to pay off all the loans he took for his car, his credit cards for expensive clothing while B is carefree and has spare cash all around, is A still richer?"

So my question here is how do women "first impression" sees a guy if he is rich and successful?
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I bring them go makan economy rice, go normal hypermarket date, go park and I make sure to tell them no overseas holiday or cafe hopping. If they are ok, I am ok. A woman who cannot be with you when you are poor doesn't deserve to with you when you are rich.

How to know? Depends on the woman. How they judge. If they don't practice delayed gratification they won't know my way of life. Seen so many. I just let them go. Most important, don't let your little head get best of you. 😛

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 15 2024, 07:55 PM
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post Oct 16 2024, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 15 2024, 04:43 PM)


In my twenties, I used to look for men who were already rich and I attracted several...

but now, in my thirties, I've learned to spot men who have potential to become (multi)millionaires in their lifetime, or are on the way to become one. These men are often quiet, disciplined, grounded, and loyal--- qualities that I like. blush.gif

Generally, men who like to flash wealth are mostly superficial, insecure and want women's attention. They tend to be playboys and attract lots of gold-diggers who throw themselves at them-- these are not the kind of men that I like.
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Basically u still want a wealthy guy..regardless flashy wealthy, stealthy wealthy or potentially wealthy.

Wealthy and loyal 😆


hksgmy thats 20 years ago you..what are the things a girl need to attract the likes of you?




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post Oct 16 2024, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Oct 16 2024, 10:20 AM)
Basically u still want a wealthy guy..regardless flashy wealthy, stealthy wealthy or potentially wealthy.
Wealthy and loyal 😆
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because I want to have kids.

There's a popular Chinese saying that I always believe in:

如果孩子的出生,是为了继承自己的劳碌、恐慌、贫困,那么,不生也是一种善良。 — 张爱玲。

(Translation: If the birth of a child is to inherit your toil, fear and poverty, then not having children is also a form of kindness. — Zhang Ailing)


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post Oct 16 2024, 07:27 PM

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Very hard to answer this question without generalizing the female population.

But i believe how women judge a person whether they successful is on their own core value on what they deemed as successful, which are very subjective. Rich might be easier, as those are quantifiable like net worth.

In general i believe majority of women will judge a person based on their material wealth and outward appearances as those are the easiest. Whereas some will judge you by other outward attributes such as your background, your profession, who you hang out with. A very select few will spend sometime to understand you and judge you by your character, how you present yourself or how you handle money, your drives and other less obvious traits.

So after a wall of text, there is really no single rule to judge how successful or rich a person is unless you manage his finances.

But obviously you can tweak your "first impression game" to attract the kind of person you want to attract into your life.


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post Oct 17 2024, 08:13 AM

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We live in a funny world, always remember that if you choose, so does the other party ..

That is why divorce is so common; ppl forget the fundamental of relationships ..

Oh wait, I forget ppl just go after money, add s** and dr** to the mix too .. why not kan?

 

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