Asiah Abd Jalil
31 August at 18:52  ·
Kes Dai Syed.
Dihukum penjara 10 tahun dan 3 sebatan kerana kesalahan rogol.
Terus dibawa ke Penjara Kajang pada hari yang sama jatuh hukum.
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Sebagai seorang peguambela kes-kes jenayah, ada 2 perkara yang sangat mengganggu fikiran saya :-
1) Kes rogol dan kes zina harus dibezakan. Sekiranya "mangsa" ialah seorang wanita dewasa yang rela, ia bukan kes rogol.
Apatah lagi jika fakta kes menunjukkan laporan polis mengenai rogol, hanya dibuat setahun selepas kejadian, itu pun setelah si lelaki menolak cinta si wanita.
Menghukum seorang lelaki kerana berzina suka sama suka, di bawah undang-undang jenayah sivil, ia adalah salah.
Sepatutnya kedua-dua lelaki dan perempuan hendaklah sama-sama dihukum di bawah undang-undang jenayah syariah.
Zina bukan rogol. Tidak adil hanya lelaki dihukum, kerana masyarakat cenderung untuk merasa simpati kepada wanita.
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2) Dalam mana-mana kes jenayah, hak setiap orang ialah mendapat 3 kali peringkat mahkamah.
1) mahkamah bicara
2) mahkamah rayuan
3) mahkamah rayuan kedua
Penangguhan pelaksanaan hukuman setelah peringkat pertama mahkamah, sepatutnya diberikan kepada pesalah. Tidak kiralah apa pun circumstances nya.
Pesalah masih ada ruang untuk dua peringkat mahkamah rayuan lagi. Mahkamah bicara tidak sewajarnya memutuskan dari awal, bahawa rayuan kelak pasti tidak akan berjaya.
Bagaimana jika rayuan nanti berjaya? Siapa nak kembalikan kebebasan pesalah yang telah hilang, sepanjang dia menjalani hukuman sebelum rayuannya didengar?
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Ketika masyarakat bergembira dengan nasib malang Dai Syed, saya merasa sebaliknya.
Saya rasa Dai Syed memang bernasib malang kerana terlibat dengan orang yang salah. Mungkin kalaulah dia membalas cinta, tiadalah laporan rogol dibuat kepada polis.
Hari ini Dai Syed kena. Esok lusa bila ada ahli keluarga atau kenalan anda menerima nasib yang sama, waktu itu mungkin anda akan persoalkan, adakah sistem keadilan jenayah kita benar-benar adil?
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Untuk makluman, dalam kes Dai Syed...
- Hakim bicara yang memutuskan tiada prima facie di akhir kes pendakwaan, ialah Hakim yang lain.
(Dai Syed pada mulanya dilepaskan dan dibebaskan.)
- Hakim rayuan yang memutuskan ada prima facie di akhir kes pendakwaan, ialah Hakim yang lain.
(Kes dikembalikan ke mahkamah bicara untuk sambung peringkat pembelaan.)
- Hakim bicara yang memutuskan Dai Syed bersalah di akhir kes pembelaan, ialah Hakim yang lain.
(Dai Syed didapati bersalah dan dihukum penjara 10 tahun serta 3 sebatan.)
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Pada pendapat saya, Hakim yang telah melihat sendiri demeanour "mangsa" semasa memberi keterangan di mahkamah, beliaulah yang paling tepat menilai, adakah rogol benar-benar berlaku kepada "mangsa".
Sebab itulah demi keadilan, dalam perbicaraan kes rogol, jangan tukar Hakim. Hakim yang sama sepatutnya mendengar kes dari awal hingga akhir.
Saya merasakan Dai Syed tidak mendapat perbicaraan yang adil. Semoga ada sinar untuknya di peringkat rayuan kelak.

so type M finally realises that there are too many rules in their lives and some are not so convenient to them

Ah asiah, siti kasim gang

Inb4 wrong asiah

I think same gang but married to Taliban right? Then divorce

Ok correct then

Biasa la. Bumi ini milik siapa? Milik perrmpuan.

Semua special untuk depa.

Parking, tren, cuti, pakaian ofis
Buat perangai tak kena belasah, sebab lelaki kena kowtow Sama perempuan. Inilah zaman woke.

so type M finally realises that there are too many rules in their lives and some are not so convenient to them

Biasa la. Bumi ini milik siapa? Milik perrmpuan.

Semua special untuk depa.

Parking, tren, cuti, pakaian ofis
Buat perangai tak kena belasah, sebab lelaki kena kowtow Sama perempuan. Inilah zaman woke.

she got a point tho..

valid point, but, how to objectively evidence that it is a SUKA sama SUKA? how?

there is no way to do that without physical evidence

its puzzling to me too.
if woman initially consent, dah puas, then allege rape. Howlar...not fair also

You understand the case or not? This is civil court case that applies to all types, not type M.

he should play with type c instead. type m dangerous.when kantoi, family members ask them to do rape report.

so type M finally realises that there are too many rules in their lives and some are not so convenient to them

so type M finally realises that there are too many rules in their lives and some are not so convenient to them

Mangsa ialah seorang wanita yang rela.

This statement alone really fucuk the bm.

When you kena interrogated, zina suka sama suka also can change to kena rogol.

Actually you are right. I went to read the case. The lawyer is right that even the most evil accused should be given his right to appeal and apply for stay of execution. Maybe it's because the judge has been influenced by public opinion / media.
This kind of afterthought rape case is very common in the West lol. I understand why the lawyer is upset with this kind of practice being allowed and enforced in Malaysia.

(f) with her consent, when the consent is obtained by using his position of authority over her or because of professional relationship or other relationship of trust in relation to her

The prosecution said that based on the accused’s position and the testimonies of witnesses, Syed Shah Iqmal is a well-known preacher and a motivator who is highly regarded, but he used his position to take advantage of the victim.

The prosecution also demonstrated that the victim was vulnerable due to suffering from depression, which rendered her unable to make decisions and resist the accused, she said.

Abis lah next time, even with consent, you need to make sure everything is right before doing it.

Don't have the facts of the case nor am I really interested to read it.

How old is the victim and how did the 3 judges came to different conclusions about her? Did the 2nd and 3rd judges interviewed everyone again?

So no force was involved? Just prove he is buaya darat type?

Haha by reading the case I am referring to the "news". Didn't want to spend time reading the full case either.

Personally (big assumption) I think the defence team fked up really bad la plus a little bit of bias. This kind of case usually very hard to prove one if the defence managed to raise even a tiny bit of doubt.

More so since it has been 1 year and the fact that she only reported to the authorities after he declined to reciprocate.

I think he has a chance at appeal but usually the appellate courts won't disturb the finding of facts by the lower courts and will only rule on the issue of law because as the lawyer rightly pointed out, it's unfair for a different judge to decide on the facts without looking at the demeanour of the victim when she gives her version of the story.

so type M finally realises that there are too many rules in their lives and some are not so convenient to them

valid point, but, how to objectively evidence that it is a SUKA sama SUKA? how?

there is no way to do that without physical evidence

valid point, but, how to objectively evidence that it is a SUKA sama SUKA? how?

there is no way to do that without physical evidence

Unless got video proof, it is pretty much rape case depend on female testimony

its puzzling to me too.
if woman initially consent, dah puas, then allege rape. Howlar...not fair also

Dis one ayam agree

Should abandon feminism law

Yes, there are many rules and almost all rules are not convenient to those who refuse to obey. There are do's and don't.

Abis lah next time, even with consent, you need to make sure everything is right before doing it.

I think so. But I could be wrong

Sekian. Sila bersurai secara aman dan teratur.

Yes you are wrong. They are still husband and wife.

Need consent form la. Signed with IC photocopy.

Am also surprised that all 3 judges were female.

Yes, without actual physical evidence, the defence lawyer really did drop the ball big time. No tilam was paraded too to hoodwink the marhaen.

But then, we don't know if what the lawyer claimed is true without actual facts of the case. Was there cctv footage of them showing the lady distressed, perhaps?

what evidence does that give him away?
so many uncertainty.

Am also surprised that all 3 judges were female.

Yes, without actual physical evidence, the defence lawyer really did drop the ball big time. No tilam was paraded too to hoodwink the marhaen.

But then, we don't know if what the lawyer claimed is true without actual facts of the case. Was there cctv footage of them showing the lady distressed, perhaps?

she go back to taliban? why?

Get better lawyers. Steal billions also can get diskaun and house arrest. Some lawyers can make drug evidence hilang.

She stressed becoz that time syed pakai filter and pakai mask nampak flawless, manatau bukak mask macam ni terus kata rogol


sked tau

Sekiranya "mangsa" ialah seorang wanita dewasa yang rela, ia bukan kes rogol.

How she knows? God ah

If he thinks that the sentence is wrong then should help him appeal loh.

Lack of evidence
Rape can get like 20 years of prison need solid evidence, at least medical report, cctv recording etc

Cannot just punish by he said vs she said

maybe so many ppl lipot, so kena lorrr

Biasa la. Bumi ini milik siapa? Milik perrmpuan.

Semua special untuk depa.

Parking, tren, cuti, pakaian ofis
Buat perangai tak kena belasah, sebab lelaki kena kowtow Sama perempuan. Inilah zaman woke.

To play devil's advocate
So many people report not one give solid evidence

Hantar gambar payudara pada Ebit Lew, saksi mengaku tidak curang

But that guy was a moronic bigot, yes? This case would be thrown out under Shariah (law for zina), unless the accused himself confirmed penetration took place due to lack of physical evidence and reliable witnesses. Burden of Proof in victim testimony will need to be as bullet proof as any in the case of rape accusation (since without physical evidence).

There were 11 victims reported against him. However, only 2 proceed with the prosecution, rape and sodomy.
One (sodomy case) withdrew her case half way due to trauma.

So was it a rape or zina case, I guess the court has decided.

There were 11 victims reported against him. However, only 2 proceed with the prosecution, rape and sodomy.
One (sodomy case) withdrew her case half way due to trauma.

So was it a rape or zina case, I guess the court has decided.

There were 11 victims reported against him. However, only 2 proceed with the prosecution, rape and sodomy.
One (sodomy case) withdrew her case half way due to trauma.

So was it a rape or zina case, I guess the court has decided.

Again, without reading the facts of the case and judgement, I can't really comment.

Yes, if zina, he goes scott free, if rogol, then kena. Malaysian laws are not the same as Islamic law. Islamic law, zina both kena (but very difficult to prove) and rogol only the rapist kena.

Really, 11 victims but none with evidence? Just wow if true. So he is simply being punished for being a buaya darat.

Not rape. but one night stand. and he might promise to his victim to become her lover. but end up, he just dump them after fuck. his body count also maybe more than 11. but only 11 not satisfied and report police. remember consent can be taken back..if he really rape 11 people, its like unlogical.

so if you hate a man so much, just claim kena rogol, instant jail on him

ur head got mind right..u can think logically right. I want to ask u la..is it logical he rape 11 women?. honestly speaking. it is not possible bro. these 11 women, they the one who spread their legs in the name of love. but this syed, is a fuck boy. he fuck all these women and dump the women..

Its really unlogical he rape all these 11 women and scott free. impossible. if it is really rape, it is impossible. more like he do touch and go, like one night stand.

its puzzling to me too.
if woman initially consent, dah puas, then allege rape. Howlar...not fair also