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post Sep 2 2024, 11:14 AM, updated 2y ago

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KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 2 — The Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) has raised concerns over plans to place officers from the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim) in every government department.

According to a report in the Daily Express dated August 13, 2024, Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Vice-President David Ong also expressed concerns regarding these reports.

The MCCBCHST fears that this move could potentially violate Article 3(1) of the Federal Constitution, which states that “Islam is the religion of the Federation”, the MCCBCHST wrote in a statement today.

“This move has the potential to affect the constitutional safeguards provided in the Constitution including the Fundamental rights guaranteed by Articles 5 to 13, which also form the basic structure of the Constitution,” it added.

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post Sep 2 2024, 11:16 AM

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How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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i tot they already have
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Fuyoh! Exactly wat communist country is doing with their political bureau agents.
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Why need Jakim officer


Many holier than thou civil servants everywhere
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:18 AM

 
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Everything also need to consult JAKIM first ya.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 2 2024, 11:16 AM)
How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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"Dorang mkn gaji buta je....."

*Deploy officers to every gov dept*

"WAIT HOL UP"
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:22 AM

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jakim getting all the gomen budgets lol
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:22 AM

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post Sep 2 2024, 11:24 AM

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placing like how? got special post and office? and do what?
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:24 AM

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wait.... for what purpose?
is this news even true?
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:25 AM

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Kasi chan la....

1billion budget per year to tackle aduan khalwat ???

How to finish it in time ???
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:25 AM

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check procedure halal or not?
so counter will be full and more efficient cause it's haram to be lazy?
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Again TQ for macai DAP for sponsoring this reform
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 2 2024, 11:16 AM)
How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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Last time the 127 personal deployed to catch someone from which department?
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:25 AM)
check procedure halal or not?
so counter will be full and more efficient cause it's haram to be lazy?
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It's more like they gonna monitor type M civil servant to ensure they pray 5 times a day, instead of improving productivity or curb corruption brows.gif
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Sep 2 2024, 11:27 AM)
Last time the 127 personal deployed to catch someone from which department?
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This one lo

Next year budget increase more can deploy 1 officer for every business
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Sadly seems like bmx will be the one responsible for turning BolehLand into TalibumLand.

Really funny how all these religious agenda leaders blind to the fact that most if not all Middle East countries are regressive, yet they still wanna steer the country towards that… doh.gif
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Thats the budget down the drain...
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:30 AM

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Persatuan daging ....inside got Jakim or not
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 2 2024, 11:14 AM)


KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 2 — The Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) has raised concerns over plans to place officers from the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim) in every government department.

According to a report in the Daily Express dated August 13, 2024, Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Vice-President David Ong also expressed concerns regarding these reports.

The MCCBCHST fears that this move could potentially violate Article 3(1) of the Federal Constitution, which states that “Islam is the religion of the Federation”, the MCCBCHST wrote in a statement today.

“This move has the potential to affect the constitutional safeguards provided in the Constitution including the Fundamental rights guaranteed by Articles 5 to 13, which also form the basic structure of the Constitution,” it added.
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Lolz i think most wanna go tangkap maksiat......oooo wai....
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I dun understand. And the function is to do what exactly? Mohon bagi pencerahan. The article is batu api article. Got head n tail. Body only missing.
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:32 AM

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What to achieve to place jakim officer in government department?

Making sure staff praying 5 times per day?
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post Sep 2 2024, 11:33 AM

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Like soviet political commissar, create jobs for them and ensure gomen department complied to jakim policy. Jakim will ultimately become the supreme rulers/council in the country.

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Sep 2 2024, 11:24 AM)
wait.... for what purpose?
is this news even true?
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Don’t think this is first time such news reported, guess it’s true. Good luck to BolehLand so eager to transfer to be Middle East country.

At current rate I think I will witness the full transition before I gg.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:29 AM)
Sadly seems like bmx will be the one responsible for turning BolehLand into TalibumLand.

Really funny how all these religious agenda leaders blind to the fact that most if not all Middle East countries are regressive, yet they still wanna steer the country towards that… doh.gif
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Don't worry macai DAP can always spin it into PuAS would do worse.

So basically, BMX has no bottom limit when come to Islamisation because PuAS always gonna be the boogeyman laugh.gif

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 2 2024, 11:16 AM)
How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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Raiding hotel, tangkap basah, tangkap pegang tangan kan banyak.
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Concern over placing Jakim staff in every government department
Published on: Tuesday, August 13, 2024
By: Nikko Fabian

Kota Kinabalu: Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Vice-President David Ong, raised concerns regarding reports officers from the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim), will be placed in every government department to ensure decisions align with Islamic principles.

David highlighted the potential implications of such a move on Malaysia’s democracy and constitutional principles.

He also highlighted Malaysia’s diverse population, comprising individuals of various faiths and ethnicities and stressed the importance of upholding the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion for all.

He said the reported placement of religious officers in government departments could compromise the secular nature of institutions meant to serve all Malaysians impartially, irrespective of their religious beliefs.

David also stressed the importance of decisions being based on facts and the best interests of all Malaysians, rather than religious considerations.

Of particular concern is the potential for discrimination against non-Muslim citizens and civil servants, as well as the risk of religious considerations overshadowing merit and equality in government operations.

He cautioned against policies that could undermine equal opportunity and non-discrimination, fundamental to a just and harmonious society.

While acknowledging Islam as the religion of the Federation, he reiterated the need for a clear separation between religious affairs and the secular functions of government to safeguard the rights and freedoms of all Malaysians.

Towards this end, he called on the government to clarify the reported policy and urged reconsideration if the reports are accurate.

LDP reaffirmed its commitment to democratic values, diversity and equal treatment for all citizens under the law.

Ong stressed the importance of upholding Malaysia’s plurality and scrutinising actions that may jeopardize this delicate balance.

Source: https://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news/239878...nt-department-/
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QUOTE(party @ Sep 2 2024, 11:35 AM)
Raiding hotel, tangkap basah, tangkap pegang tangan kan banyak.
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Only possible for nightshift staff, day shift worker still need something to do so can show they fulfil their KPI

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else how to stay relevant.. need to create unecessary JD to ensure yearly allocated budget is being paid from tax payers money,.

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 2 2024, 11:14 AM)


KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 2 — The Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) has raised concerns over plans to place officers from the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim) in every government department.

According to a report in the Daily Express dated August 13, 2024, Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Vice-President David Ong also expressed concerns regarding these reports.

The MCCBCHST fears that this move could potentially violate Article 3(1) of the Federal Constitution, which states that “Islam is the religion of the Federation”, the MCCBCHST wrote in a statement today.

“This move has the potential to affect the constitutional safeguards provided in the Constitution including the Fundamental rights guaranteed by Articles 5 to 13, which also form the basic structure of the Constitution,” it added.
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So basically not only becoming the morality police, but also to check whether there are halal and non-halal microwaves in each pantry?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:29 AM)
Sadly seems like bmx will be the one responsible for turning BolehLand into TalibumLand.

Really funny how all these religious agenda leaders blind to the fact that most if not all Middle East countries are regressive, yet they still wanna steer the country towards that… doh.gif
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Seems like every Muslim leaders get the religion wrong, that lead to regressions. It's the dark ages all over again. Muslim scholars from the golden age will facepalm hard seeing all this shit biggrin.gif
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I got better suggestion.
Place them all in Gaza.
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Sep 2 2024, 11:34 AM)
Don't worry macai DAP can always spin it into PuAS would do worse.

So basically, BMX has no bottom limit when come to Islamisation because PuAS always gonna be the boogeyman laugh.gif
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Frankly speaking both will turn BolehLand into TalibumLand. The difference it seems bmx will do it more systematically than PuAS.

Either way, nons should ensure they don’t leave their next gen hanging around when shits hit the fan. whistling.gif
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For the small number of nons working in gov dept... time to put away your crosses , religious talisman and even photos of you in Unislamic clothings at your cubicle or desktop wallpapers.

"Not gonna affect nons" BS is coming.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:34 AM)
Don’t think this is first time such news reported, guess it’s true. Good luck to  BolehLand so eager to transfer to be Middle East country.

At current rate I think I will witness the full transition before I gg.
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i question the veracity of claim "placing JAKIM personnel in each department". is it even true in the first place.
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PMX deservess to lose all elections.

Amd tat useless of a tony lake.

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Sep 2 2024, 11:27 AM)
Last time the 127 personal deployed to catch someone from which department?
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lulz tangkap bangjat pun tarak habuk lepas jugak

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relax...banyak gov department staff main romen romen...so need undercover jakim officer untuk tangkap...
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Sep 2 2024, 11:39 AM)
I got better suggestion.
Place them all in Gaza.
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*Goes to Gaza*

Khalwat mana? Kongkek mana?

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Normally, JAKIM officers assigned to Law Enforcement Agency je, not to all Gov Agencies .. senang nak discuss and made decision, no need to ask meeting or availability of the officers. Jimat kos on the transportation lagi ..

Same like SPRM / PDRM / etc
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QUOTE(abm @ Sep 2 2024, 11:50 AM)
Lazy to make long comments. Just wait for next GE
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No matter how we vote in future GE, the majority annd their leaders already steadfast in transforming BolehLand into TalibumLand.

The only thing nons can do is to ensure next gen won’t be around when the transition is completed.
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Likely to accelerate the pace sabah and sarawak to leave the federation.

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 2 2024, 11:53 AM)
Normally, JAKIM officers assigned to Law Enforcement Agency je, not to all Gov Agencies .. senang nak discuss and made decision, no need to ask meeting or availability of the officers. Jimat kos on the transportation lagi ..

Same like SPRM / PDRM / etc
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You are saying as if those officers assigned to each department have high level authority and can make decision on their own.

What era are we living in? Telecommunications rely on pigeons?
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So what diff vote pmx vs Pn?

At least PN era not so much bullshit

BMX era non stop bullshit
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 2 2024, 11:56 AM)
Likely to accelerate the pace sabah and sarawak to leave the federation.
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With no army of their own, unlikely to happen.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 2 2024, 11:56 AM)
So what diff vote pmx vs Pn?

At least PN era not so much bullshit

BMX era non stop bullshit
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I say ady bmx will keep showing his love to his supporters but some don't believe. Keep telling me give him chance. Lol

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:57 AM)
With no army of their own, unlikely to happen.
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Sabah and sarawak wil bel independent with foreign assistance and support.

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after this 1 billion yearly allocation not enough la. must add another 1 billion.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 2 2024, 11:16 AM)
How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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you prefer Jakim or PuAS spreading their poison in government departments?
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to catch if any staff skip prayer
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:57 AM)
With no army of their own, unlikely to happen.
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With "Formidable" army what do you think happened?

Intrusion still happened anyways, and with the bells and whistles of "state of the art" defense

Nowhere to be seen, still can't wipe the sulu's in the first place

Might as well we form alliance with SG and Brunei or even US/China?

What makes you think Sabah & Sarawak so weak to depend on Peninsula?

FYI please return 300bil of fair share O&G, palm oil and other export revenue then talk thanks.


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Janji bukan PUAS

You want talibanixed? Vote PUAS

Pee H kencing Manis with bang Nur.

Mamakthir was right, bang Nur agent US
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 11:39 AM)
Frankly speaking both will turn BolehLand into TalibumLand. The difference it seems bmx will do it more systematically than PuAS.

Either way, nons should ensure they don’t leave their next gen hanging around when shits hit the fan.  whistling.gif
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What if both dah lama rancang, one systematically another one racially culturally outside.

Kita Yang lalai, tak pe janji dapat first class seat to this talibunland
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QUOTE(kcal @ Sep 2 2024, 12:03 PM)
after this 1 billion yearly allocation not enough la. must add another 1 billion.
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is 1.9 billion

The government allocated RM1.9 billion to Jakim for the management and development of Islamic affairs in the 2024 budget.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...unity-minister/

why u slowpoke laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 2 2024, 11:53 AM)
Normally, JAKIM officers assigned to Law Enforcement Agency je, not to all Gov Agencies .. senang nak discuss and made decision, no need to ask meeting or availability of the officers. Jimat kos on the transportation lagi ..

Same like SPRM / PDRM / etc
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 12:09 PM)
is 1.9 billion

The government allocated RM1.9 billion to Jakim for the management and development of Islamic affairs in the 2024 budget.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...unity-minister/

why u slowpoke  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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wow. a lot la. mca oso kenot do anything.
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QUOTE(kcal @ Sep 2 2024, 12:11 PM)
wow. a lot la. mca oso kenot do anything.
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salah mca pulokkkkkkkkkkkkk  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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mca pas abang adik mah.
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Jakun is the new garment?

Wellocome Talibun State
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 12:09 PM)
is 1.9 billion

The government allocated RM1.9 billion to Jakim for the management and development of Islamic affairs in the 2024 budget.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...unity-minister/

why u slowpoke  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Waste money on non beneficial rubbish.

What a waste!!
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Sep 2 2024, 12:07 PM)
With "Formidable" army what do you think happened?

Intrusion still happened anyways, and with the bells and whistles of "state of the art" defense

Nowhere to be seen, still can't wipe the sulu's in the first place

Might as well we form alliance with SG and Brunei or even US/China?

What makes you think Sabah & Sarawak so weak to depend on Peninsula?

FYI please return 300bil of fair share O&G, palm oil and other export revenue then talk thanks.
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Why would any of those countries wanna have war with Msia in the first place? biggrin.gif

SG economy would immediately collapse if they have war with Msia. Brunei has no reason to start any regional conflict as they are enjoying their wealth and peace.

As for US and China, I let u come up with your reasoning. Come convince us wink.gif
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QUOTE(kcal @ Sep 2 2024, 12:12 PM)
mca pas abang adik mah.
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so?

anwar give 1.9 bil salah puas mca?
i see
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QUOTE(InitialB @ Sep 2 2024, 12:13 PM)
Waste money on non beneficial rubbish.

What a waste!!
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2025 shud 3 bil? Lol
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2025 gonna be 2.5 billion laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 12:14 PM)
so?

anwar give 1.9 bil salah puas mca?
i see
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so true la mca and pas abang adik. aiyoh.
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so true la mca and pas abang adik. aiyoh.
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better bring back jibby. at least jibby dont do this kind of nonsense.
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- trying to limit social media by imposing nonsense license
- placing officers in every govt dept
- next is to have religion advisor replacing tpm

Bmx caliphate state wet dream gonna come true. I hope he will build the largest library in the world too biggrin.gif

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They need to look at the budgets of these bodies... All in the billions and so many overlapping agencies. Really waste of resources.
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better place MACC in every dept.
Jakim can station in every masjid.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Sep 2 2024, 12:24 PM)
- trying to limit social media by imposing nonsense license
- placing officers in every govt dept
- next is to have religion advisor replacing tpm

Bmx caliphate state wet dream gonna come true. I hope he will build the largest library in the world too biggrin.gif
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which is the better option for nons? serious question.
1) continue to earn 20k in MY but live under talibun.
2) move to AU to earn $3k as kuli.
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Apa nak buat dalam tu? Nak check korupsi atau check orang cara pakai baju ke?
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which is the better option for nons? serious question.
1) continue to earn 20k in MY but live under talibun.
2) move to AU to earn $3k as kuli.
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QUOTE(nearlee @ Sep 2 2024, 11:23 AM)
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I always support JAKIM!  brows.gif
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KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 2 — The Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) has raised concerns over plans to place officers from the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim) in every government department.

According to a report in the Daily Express dated August 13, 2024, Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Vice-President David Ong also expressed concerns regarding these reports.

The MCCBCHST fears that this move could potentially violate Article 3(1) of the Federal Constitution, which states that “Islam is the religion of the Federation”, the MCCBCHST wrote in a statement today.

“This move has the potential to affect the constitutional safeguards provided in the Constitution including the Fundamental rights guaranteed by Articles 5 to 13, which also form the basic structure of the Constitution,” it added.
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pergi mana kerja?
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*Goes to Gaza*

Khalwat mana? Kongkek mana?
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Budget berbillion...takkan la nak makan gaji buta? whistling.gif
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Fuyoh! Exactly wat communist country is doing with their political bureau agents.
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They are going to get a bigger budget, aren't they?
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Syukur Malaysia on the right path, need more budget next year
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Other ppl put anti corruption officer

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Congratulations sudah reformasi become more Islamist.
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would've somewhat make sense & agree if MACC officers be put in every agencies instead.

but Jakim officers? lulz madani's a clown
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Just have to justify big budget allocation, if not nanti kena cut. Someone is laughing to the bank.
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who says religion and communism cannot go hand in hand...
pmx just decided to show everyone that it can be done. lol
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 2 2024, 12:14 PM)
Why would any of those countries wanna have war with Msia in the first place?  biggrin.gif

SG economy would immediately collapse if they have war with Msia. Brunei has no reason to start any regional conflict as they are enjoying their wealth and peace.

As for US and China, I let u come up with your reasoning. Come convince us  wink.gif
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Why would there be war with SG?

If secession of Sabah & Sarawak happens its on voluntary withdrawal, what does it have to do with SG? Same goes with Brunei.

If your logic is form alliance with Sabah & Sarawak = war with Peninsula, then you must be naive thinking that Peninsula dare to attack Singapore unprovoked

Forming alliance itself happens AFTER withdrawal from Malaysia.

And what if Sabah & Sarawak get foreign protection from US/China then? US/CN don't dare to go to war with Malaysia? Lol

Forming alliance its not annexation, don't be delusional.

Your point up there suggests that Sabah & Sarawak "belongs" to Malaysia when in fact it is not. Sabah & Sarawak do have autonomy over participation of "Malaysia".
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so they speeding up the assimilation culture
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Sep 2 2024, 01:22 PM)
Why would there be war with SG?

If secession of Sabah & Sarawak happens its on voluntary withdrawal, what does it have to do with SG? Same goes with Brunei.

If your logic is form alliance with Sabah & Sarawak = war with Peninsula, then you must be naive thinking that Peninsula dare to attack Singapore unprovoked

Forming alliance itself happens AFTER withdrawal from Malaysia.

And what if Sabah & Sarawak get foreign protection from US/China then? US/CN don't dare to go to war with Malaysia? Lol

Forming alliance its not annexation, don't be delusional.

Your point up there suggests that Sabah & Sarawak "belongs" to Malaysia when in fact it is not. Sabah & Sarawak do have autonomy over participation of "Malaysia".
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JAKIM Budget Allocation by year

2024 1.9 Billion
2023 1.5 Billion
2022 1.1 Billion
2021 1.4 Billion
2020 956 Million
2019 1.2 Billion
2018 810 Million
2017 745 Million
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Oh wai...
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 2 2024, 12:34 PM)
which is the better option for nons? serious question.
1) continue to earn 20k in MY but live under talibun.
2) move to AU to earn $3k as kuli.
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These days go illegally and then claim asylum can get citizenship faster than calculate pr points. Some more they pay you monthly allowance and got free housing while waiting asylum claim.
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Nons just shut up and continue to work harder and earn more moolah. Once enough, jump ship.
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Jakim officials have special talents that all other departments don't?
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Madani approved
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i love this acronym MCCBCHST. sounds like someone swearing non stop.

kahkahkah
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Moral policing.

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Ok whatever floats your boat. wink.gif
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Don't be sore.
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Sep 2 2024, 02:16 PM)
Sometimes, its okay to say - "Ah yes, you point does makes sense".

Don't be sore.
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not even mahathir and najib did this. oh PH suppporters...what can have you opened lol

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Who gave the green light if not the pm of canaan?
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to make sure they pray 5 times per day and to make sure the foods are halal?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 12:10 PM)
online meeting kan ada

oh waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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While it may seem simple, it's important to consider that there are numerous high-level and confidential meetings involving senior officers. Rather than incurring expenses related to transportation and time, it might be more beneficial to assign a dedicated officer within the LE Agency. Furthermore, they are able to provide references for many of the queries and cases that the LE might be unable to answer.

If you keep forwarding query via email or try to reach via phone, the officer normally are busy with other tasks. By putting them at the agency itself, he/she have to answer all the query asap. So, the case can be resolved within the stipulated time.
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How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 2 2024, 02:56 PM)
While it may seem simple, it's important to consider that there are numerous high-level and confidential meetings involving senior officers. Rather than incurring expenses related to transportation and time, it might be more beneficial to assign a dedicated officer within the LE Agency. Furthermore, they are able to provide references for many of the queries and cases that the LE might be unable to answer.

If you keep forwarding query via email or try to reach via phone, the officer normally are busy with other tasks. By putting them at the agency itself, he/she have to answer all the query asap. So, the case can be resolved within the stipulated time.
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does EVERY govt department need JAKIM answer ASAP?

EVERY......
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 2 2024, 11:14 AM)


KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 2 — The Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) has raised concerns over plans to place officers from the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim) in every government department.

According to a report in the Daily Express dated August 13, 2024, Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) Vice-President David Ong also expressed concerns regarding these reports.

The MCCBCHST fears that this move could potentially violate Article 3(1) of the Federal Constitution, which states that “Islam is the religion of the Federation”, the MCCBCHST wrote in a statement today.

“This move has the potential to affect the constitutional safeguards provided in the Constitution including the Fundamental rights guaranteed by Articles 5 to 13, which also form the basic structure of the Constitution,” it added.
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I support.. No more teh tarik and kopi O time and rokok time..
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why this sounds like DEI in west?
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does EVERY govt department need JAKIM answer ASAP?

EVERY......
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Nope. Only LE agencies or Govt department that needs Jakim to provides reference, for example, education sector.
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 2 2024, 03:20 PM)
Nope. Only LE agencies or Govt department that needs Jakim to provides reference, for example, education sector.
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why non bising?
you guys don't like PAS right?
this is attempt to halt PAS/PN influence among govt officer.
or nons like Taliban gov more?
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why non bising?
you guys don't like PAS right?
this is attempt to halt PAS/PN influence among govt officer.
or nons like Taliban gov more?
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Nons worry PAS will make Malaysia more Islamist, so Madani do it first huehuehue.
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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 2 2024, 03:28 PM)
why non bising?
you guys don't like PAS right?
this is attempt to halt PAS/PN influence among govt officer.
or nons like Taliban gov more?
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put nons wakil in islamic meeting cannot

die die must suggest the opposite
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 2 2024, 11:16 AM)
How else would u deploy such a large number of jakim staffs. They can't be doing nothing right
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1. Tangkap Basah
2. Tangkap people xsolat jumaat
3. Tangkap people xpuasa
4. Tangkap people drink at pub

But honestly, I kesian those libarel malay muslim, or those who are yet to find their calling to be pious. I mean, they are born into the religion. There is nothing they can do, but the heart want what it want. I have a lot of Malay friend who loves to drink, dont go friday prayer, and xpuasa. But they are very good people, took care of their family well. Mostly are educated and successful too, compared to pious one.
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1. asal bukan PAS.
2. not PAS already like this, imagine if PAS is the govt, malaysia ke arah talibanism.
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2. not PAS already like this, imagine if PAS is the govt, malaysia ke arah talibanism.
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PN was in power for 2-3 years
tak macam ini pun laugh.gif laugh.gif
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naik gaji civil servant will increase productivity they said....

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communist political officers and the gestapo springs to mind.
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after this 1 billion yearly allocation not enough la. must add another 1 billion.
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BMX must be W40K fan..

he setup his own commissars
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It's more like they gonna monitor type M civil servant to ensure they pray 5 times a day, instead of improving productivity or curb corruption  brows.gif
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Corruption and productivity ke belakang sebab itu hanya di dunia, JAKIM only care those on akhirat lol
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1. Tangkap Basah
2. Tangkap people xsolat jumaat
3. Tangkap people xpuasa
4. Tangkap people drink at pub

But honestly, I kesian those libarel malay muslim, or those who are yet to find their calling to be pious. I mean, they are born into the religion. There is nothing they can do, but the heart want what it want. I have a lot of Malay friend who loves to drink, dont go friday prayer, and xpuasa. But they are very good people, took care of their family well. Mostly are educated and successful too, compared to pious one.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_religious_police
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Main article: Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (JAKIM)
The Malaysian religious authority, known as the Federal Territories Islamic Religious Department (JAWI), enforces religious standards.[20] Its Chief of enforcement is Wan Jaafar Wan Ahmad.[21] Punishable offenses include khalwat, the offense of being in close proximity to any forbidden member of the opposite sex. Adultery is also an offense and may lead to up to two years in prison. According to local newspapers, the moral police have stopped hundreds of couples.[22] Other offenses include extra-marital sex, alcohol consumption, not fasting during Ramadan, and not visiting the mosque during Friday prayer. The department also punishes gay Muslims.[23] Malaysian morality police are often accused of overstepping their mandate, with legal confusion resulting from overlapping and ambiguously defined jurisdictions of secular and sharia-based laws.[14]
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PN was in power for 2-3 years
tak macam ini pun  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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One of the main reason that contributes to bloated civil service and financial burden to the govt.
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communist political officers and the gestapo springs to mind.
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maybe by following and doing all these, we can oneday be strong enough to join yemen activities and support gaza?


Aug. 15, 2024, 8:56 PM GMT+8 / Source: The Associated Press
By The Associated Press
On a darkened road beside the Caspian Sea, Iranian police officers opened fire last month on a 31-year-old woman who had tried to speed away likely knowing they wanted to seize her vehicle.

Police had been ordered to impound her car, activists say, because of an earlier violation of Iran’s headscarf law for showing her hair in public while driving.

Now unable to walk and confined to a bed at a police hospital, Arezou Badri — a mother of two — is the latest casualty of Iran’s renewed crackdown over headscarves, or hijabs. Her shooting occurred nearly two years after 22-year-old Mahsa Amini died while in police custody over an alleged headscarf violation, sparking nationwide protests over women’s rights and against the country’s theocracy.

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Amini’s death sparked months of protests and a security crackdown that killed more than 500 people and led to the detention of more than 22,000. After the mass demonstrations, police dialed down enforcement of hijab laws, but it ramped up again in April under what authorities called the Noor — or “Light” — Plan.

The hijab crackdown remains widely discussed in Iran, even as police and state media rarely report on it. Many women continue to wear their hijabs loosely or leave them draped around their shoulders while walking in Tehran. Women driving without wearing hijabs are believed to have been tracked via surveillance camera technology provided by Chinese firms, matching their faces against a government-maintained photo database, Ghaemi said.

If they are stopped, that can lead to physical altercations between women and the police.

Surveillance footage published last week by the Iranian reformist news website Ensaf showed a 14-year-old girl manhandled by the morality police in Tehran. Her mother described her daughter’s head as being rammed into an electrical box, a female officer pulling her hair and another putting their foot on her neck. Police described the officers’ behavior as unprofessional, but also accused the girl of using bad language.

“I saw my daughter with a wounded face, swollen lips, a bruised neck, torn clothes and she couldn’t even speak,” her mother, Maryam Abbasi, told the website. “Her eyes were so swollen from crying that they wouldn’t open.”
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maybe by following and doing all these, we can oneday be strong enough to join yemen activities and support gaza?
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"houthi" sounds like "hoot ee" (meaning "whack him" in hokkien), so they can say sarahan cina dapig once more.


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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Sep 2 2024, 05:46 PM)
"houthi" sounds like "hoot ee" (meaning "whack him" in hokkien), so they can say sarahan cina dapig once more.
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need to put one officer in every dap house?
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need to put one officer in every dap house?
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u should ask jakim that
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purposely put ppl there so they can slowly take over the government job ?

or trying to make them "look" useful ?


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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Sep 2 2024, 11:22 AM)
"Dorang mkn gaji buta je....."

*Deploy officers to every gov dept*

"WAIT HOL UP"
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Sep 2 2024, 07:54 PM)
purposely put ppl there so they can slowly take over the government job ?

or trying to make them "look" useful ?
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When they hire hundreds of religious studies graduates every year to the government service, they need to find a place to put them.
Right now government departments are forced to hire them directly even though they have zeo knowledge on the purpose and function of the departments.
So nothing has really changed, just different way to empower your vote bank
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They need to lead bacaan quran and sembahyang jemaah every dept. U all non apa tau?
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no way gov dept will agree, those boss2 very high ego 1, esp those 41 and just appointed as tim pengarah or penolong pengarah

even those kerani2 kanan will bising, most of them are even senior than those fresh 41
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Frankly speaking both will turn BolehLand into TalibumLand. The difference it seems bmx will do it more systematically than PuAS.

Either way, nons should ensure they don’t leave their next gen hanging around when shits hit the fan.  whistling.gif
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It does make you wonder if there's even any point in joining the electoral process as a non Malay Muslim voter at this point.

From the perspective of a non who just wants to do their own thing and despises what the country is trending towards :-

Vote for Madanon/PKR - you get a reacharound and some sweet words while getting f'ed in the arse.

Vote for PuAS - no lube while you get f'ed in the arse.

In both cases you still get violated.

You might as well just go straight to PuAS to accelerate the process coz what Madanon is doing is just a slow creeping version of what they aspire to turn the country into.
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is this PMX moves trying weed out the pas element out of the of the civil service?


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It does make you wonder if there's even any point in joining the electoral process as a non Malay Muslim voter at this point.

From the perspective of a  non who just wants to do their own thing and despises what the country is trending towards :-

Vote for Madanon/PKR - you get a reacharound and some sweet words while getting f'ed in the arse.

Vote for PuAS - no lube while you get f'ed in the arse.

In both cases you still get violated.

You might as well just go straight to PuAS to accelerate the process coz what Madanon is doing is just a slow creeping version of what they aspire to turn the country into.
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At least puas is honest
Won’t tipu u hari ini naik esok miyak turun
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Show how they deal with rasuah first...
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Smart move to limit their powers and movement outside , otherwise busy snatching bodies and children over conversion.

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Smart move to limit their powers and movement outside , otherwise busy snatching bodies and children over conversion.
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Now they are directly in JPN.
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Everything also need to consult JAKIM first ya.
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i thought suppose to ask hamas. whistling.gif

btw more pas than pas
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Now they are directly in JPN.
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So it's completely pointless for them to be there , everyday just watching people renew IC , or register new birth, thousands and thousands. Worse than prison
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Smart move to limit their powers and movement outside , otherwise busy snatching bodies and children over conversion.
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but will JAKIM influence the policy brows.gif
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no way gov dept will agree, those boss2 very high ego 1, esp those 41 and just appointed as tim pengarah or penolong pengarah

even those kerani2 kanan will bising, most of them are even senior than those fresh 41
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pmx or cabinet instruction

can reject?
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but will JAKIM influence the policy  brows.gif
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Since when they know about policy and meetings and presentation ?

Card in hilang after, you don't ask I don't ask. You think no need attend meeting? Make proposals? Haha, jakim la wei
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Since when they know about policy and meetings and presentation ?

Card in hilang after, you don't ask I don't ask. You think no need attend meeting? Make proposals? Haha, jakim la wei
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hard to said yo
especially if you now also put them in education department brows.gif
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It is to expand bmx power in every possible department, only those loyal to bmx will be appointed with special benefits.
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It does make you wonder if there's even any point in joining the electoral process as a non Malay Muslim voter at this point.

From the perspective of a  non who just wants to do their own thing and despises what the country is trending towards :-

Vote for Madanon/PKR - you get a reacharound and some sweet words while getting f'ed in the arse.

Vote for PuAS - no lube while you get f'ed in the arse.

In both cases you still get violated.

You might as well just go straight to PuAS to accelerate the process coz what Madanon is doing is just a slow creeping version of what they aspire to turn the country into.
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Other than bmx version being more systematic, u will also see bmx version won’t focus on ridiculous matters such as gender separation in cinema/barber, restrictions on athletes sportswear etc.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 09:39 PM)
pmx or cabinet instruction

can reject?
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what a good way to upset the voters, great job
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Why need Jakim officer
Many holier than thou civil servants everywhere
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U‘d be surprised if u know how much opis sex scandal between them…

So much until i saw poster dilarang menjalin hubungan sesama kolik in a few gov dept
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U‘d be surprised if u know how much opis sex scandal between them…

So much until i saw poster dilarang menjalin hubungan sesama kolik in a few gov dept
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...r-policy-making

update

mca, selling nons right ever since 1982

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...r-policy-making

update

mca, selling nons right ever since 1982
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MCA problem again. If it is wrong, change it la. U r gov now…. Go to court and challenge or change the law about this. So difficult?
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Since when they know about policy and meetings and presentation ?

Card in hilang after, you don't ask I don't ask. You think no need attend meeting? Make proposals? Haha, jakim la wei
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Well, PMX did mention he wants JAKIM inputs into our annual budget and its policy some time back….
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...r-policy-making

update

mca, selling nons right ever since 1982
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MCA has been a fucking dogs since 1954

fuck MCA and tan cheng lock!
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place the officers in tax and kastam department. Make sure don't tax haram business
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MCA problem again.  If it is wrong, change it la.  U r gov now…. Go to court and challenge or change the law about this.  So difficult?
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wow, talk like a true expert, i bet u also play well in office politics, i should elect u to be representative to change every law in malaysia then.
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wow, talk like a true expert, i bet u also play well in office politics, i should elect u to be representative to change every law in malaysia then.
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who does not play office politics? The only way not to play office politics is to be an island. The crux is does one play clean politics or dirty politics?
If you are management in any company, and you keep taichi bad stuff to ur predecessor WITHOUT any actions to improve or change for the better, you will face the axe v v v v fast. The point of getting u in as a gov is to reform which is what the PH gov war cry, no? So reform the systems if it is bad. Do not keep the blame game without any actions. Not going to get you anywhere at all with the blame game.
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MCA has been a fucking dogs since 1954

fuck MCA and tan cheng lock!
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And this will make the systems better now, by cursing them? Wow!
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wow, talk like a true expert, i bet u also play well in office politics, i should elect u to be representative to change every law in malaysia then.
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what is the point PH and Anwar become govt when keep follow old policy?

reformasi mana?
lip service aje ????????????

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:28 AM)
who does not play office politics?  The only way not to play office politics is to be an island.  The crux is does one play clean politics or dirty politics? 
If you are management in any company, and you keep taichi bad stuff to ur predecessor WITHOUT any actions to improve or change for the better, you will face the axe v v v v fast.  The point of getting u in as a gov is to reform which is what the PH gov war cry, no?  So reform the systems if it is bad.  Do not keep the blame game without any actions.  Not going to get you anywhere at all with the blame game.
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there are restrictions in company where some rules cant be changed even u are at the top, what's more in actual governance of a country full of racial sensitivity.

u keep talking like that i just feel that u have never been at management level in a mnc
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what is the point PH and Anwar become govt when keep follow old policy?

reformasi mana?
lip service aje ????????????

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yo, u post a malay post condemn the government la, isn't that something u good at? don't dare to face repercussions isit?
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yo, u post a malay post condemn the government la, isn't that something u good at? don't dare to face repercussions isit?
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so now we just continue?

i see
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so now we just continue?

i see
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you post first la, no balls to challenge religion and race?
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there are restrictions in company where some rules cant be changed even u are at the top, what's more in actual governance of a country full of racial sensitivity.

u keep talking like that  i just feel that u have never been at management level in a mnc
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Yes, there are restrictions but if you are the central excom, u can change just as the Malaysian gov is the executive authority for all laws in Malaysia except for religion. So they have and can make changes. They have 2/3 majority support now, no? What’s stopping them from doing so? Scared of failure to secure 2/3 approvals to make changes to laws? Does all these reforms need parliamentary approval?
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already post what
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make post by representing mca on this position la, dont hide behind keyboard
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Yes, there are restrictions but if you are the central excom, u can change just as the Malaysian gov is the executive authority for all laws in Malaysia except for religion.  So they have and can make changes.  They have 2/3 majority support now, no?  What’s stopping them from doing so?  Scared of failure to secure 2/3 approvals to make changes to laws?  Does all these reforms need parliamentary approval?
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u totally ignore the racial sensitivity part, aren't u?
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u totally ignore the racial sensitivity part, aren't u?
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What racial sensitivity that PMX cannot handle? If he can handle Palestine stuff, what is so difficult? He claimed he has the support of Malay voters didn’t he? So it is ok for anyone to blame MCA for this act when MCA also has to consider racial sensitivity but it is not ok for PMX to reform due to racial sensitivity? Interesting… if MCA cannot do this last time, they do not have racial sensitivity to face then? So can blame and throw brick bats at them. Now PMX and DAP cannot do this because of racial sensitivity?

Look, I am not a fan of MCA nor am I a fan of PH. But I do not favour the hypocrisy surrounding these where whatever MCA or the past gov did is wrong and blame them. When asked to reform, cannot cos unity gov (which has been claimed to have 2/3 majority), racial sentiments, religious sentiments etc. all full of excuses to cover the failures to reform or to act!

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:28 AM)
And this will make the systems better now, by cursing them?  Wow!
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:44 AM)
make post by representing mca on this position la, dont hide behind keyboard
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actually why should mca make post?

when mca doesnt have the support

dap on the other hand has 99% non support but quiet
yet u keep bark on mca

funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 3 2024, 11:30 AM)
actually why should mca make post?

when mca doesnt have the support

dap on the other hand has 99% non support but quiet
yet u keep bark on mca

funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Because MCA is the bogeyman for DAP. Just as Spore was the bogey man for Atuk then. If no MCA, who is DAP going to blame for their failure or weaknesses?
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QUOTE(whphon @ Sep 3 2024, 10:46 AM)
sepertinya kerajaan bodoh kita kalah ke JAKIM
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I think this JAKIM policy already there since 20-30 years ago.
Basically 1 or 2 officers each dept, normally in Putrajaya or ibu negeri. Basically the one, ustad2 who recite doa during official event, guide whatever religion event.
No issue until now... Suddently NGO or political party play with 3R issue again as if PMX govt fault...

The only different is that Madani govt want to create permanent staff instead of contract or JAKIM loan staff.
Madani govt basically try to help also other post like doctor & teacher too, create more permanent staff..

In reality, it still same person who give service. Nothing new...

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 10:05 PM)
hard to said yo
especially if you now also put them in education department  brows.gif
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Lol, they think they can influence, one guy ?

Gahmen office don't work like that, you just ciput come in want to tell this tell that, very fast kena pulau.


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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 3 2024, 11:48 AM)
I think this JAKIM policy already there since 20-30 years ago.
Basically 1 or 2 officers each dept, normally in Putrajaya or ibu negeri. Basically the one, ustad2 who recite doa during official event, guide whatever religion event.
No issue until now... Suddently NGO or political party play with 3R issue again as if PMX govt fault...

The only different is that Madani govt want to create permanent staff instead of contract or JAKIM loan staff.
Madani govt basically try to help also other post like doctor & teacher too, create more permanent staff..

In reality, it still same person who give service. Nothing new...
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But why create a permanent post when it is working well now? If they want to create permanent posts, I think there is a better department that needs more permanent posts like docs in hospitals. They add more value to people’s livelihood, no? Save life directly vs those who save life indirectly.
Time to assess if having this is person adds any value/benefit since corruption is not under control in gov dept…
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 3 2024, 12:34 PM)
Lol, they think they can influence, one guy ?

Gahmen office don't work like that, you just ciput come in want to tell this tell that, very fast kena pulau.
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who knows?

u do know how terrorist spread right? brows.gif
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who knows?

u do know how terrorist spread right?  brows.gif
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Terrorism need people of similar mind. There's nothing similar in gahmen except ular early and MC, change this change that, who wants to do for free , you want you do la, mouth only say easy
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 3 2024, 02:58 PM)
Terrorism need people of similar mind. There's nothing similar in gahmen except ular early and MC, change this change that, who wants to do for free , you want you do la, mouth only say easy
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hard to said
unless u know ALL govt staff mind brows.gif
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PMX doing his best to halau his supporters, day2 losing votes from both non and non non

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Looks like Madani is doing PAS's work, it is getting PAS's backing


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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 3 2024, 12:43 PM)
But why create a permanent post when it is working well now?  If they want to create permanent posts, I think there is a better department that needs more permanent posts like docs in hospitals.  They add more value to people’s livelihood, no?  Save life directly vs those who save life indirectly. 
Time to assess if having this is person adds any value/benefit since corruption is not under control in gov dept…
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OVRA
The Organizzazione per la Vigilanza e la Repressione dell’Antifascismo (OVRA) was the secret police of the Italian Social Republic, founded in 1927 under the regime of Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini and during the reign of King Victor Emmanuel III. OVRA was responsible for stopping any anti-fascist activity or sentiment, and approximately 50,000 agents infiltrated most aspects of domestic life in Italy. Despite its pervasive presence, OVRA never appeared in any official document, leaving its official name unclear.

OVRA was headed by Arturo Bocchini, who held the office from September 1926 until his death in November 1940. As the head of both the regular police (State Police) and the secret police (OVRA), Bocchini exercised significant control over Italian society, operating at all levels to maintain the Fascist regime’s grip on power.


STASI
The function of the Stasi in East Germany (the GDR) resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union,⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED). This was accomplished primarily through the use of a network of civilian informants who contributed to the arrest of approximately 250,000 people in East Germany.
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OVRA
The Organizzazione per la Vigilanza e la Repressione dell’Antifascismo (OVRA) was the secret police of the Italian Social Republic, founded in 1927 under the regime of Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini and during the reign of King Victor Emmanuel III. OVRA was responsible for stopping any anti-fascist activity or sentiment, and approximately 50,000 agents infiltrated most aspects of domestic life in Italy. Despite its pervasive presence, OVRA never appeared in any official document, leaving its official name unclear.

OVRA was headed by Arturo Bocchini, who held the office from September 1926 until his death in November 1940. As the head of both the regular police (State Police) and the secret police (OVRA), Bocchini exercised significant control over Italian society, operating at all levels to maintain the Fascist regime’s grip on power.
STASI
The function of the Stasi in East Germany (the GDR) resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union,⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED). This was accomplished primarily through the use of a network of civilian informants who contributed to the arrest of approximately 250,000 people in East Germany.
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Hahaha…. Then I have no except that gov also got tugging ugama la… not only PUAS. 😎. Hypocrite, no?
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hard to said
unless u know ALL govt staff mind  brows.gif
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No 100 percent got 90 la. Diu
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Meeting to dispel fears
Govt to engage with interfaith group over Jakim issue
By ALLISON LAI
Nation
Wednesday, 04 Sep 2024




PUTRAJAYA: The government will soon engage with the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) to address their concerns about the placement of Islamic Development Department (Jakim) officers in government departments.

This follows MCCBCHST’s worries about reports suggesting that Jakim officers might be placed in every government department “to ensure decisions align with Islamic principles”.

Communications Minister Fahmi Fadzil said Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim has instructed the National Unity Ministry and the Prime Minister’s Department to meet with MCCBCHST to hear their views and clarify the government’s position.

“It’s inaccurate to say that Jakim officers are involved in policymaking. Such an allegation is uncalled for and baseless,” he told the press after a Cabinet meeting at his ministry yesterday.

Despite a clarification from Jakim on Aug 7, Fahmi said some misunderstandings persist.

Fahmi reiterated that Jakim officers in government departments are not involved in policymaking but are present to uplift the spirituality of departmental staff.

He also noted that this policy of placing Jakim officers in departments was continued from the previous administration.

Fahmi pointed out that Defence Minister Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin had mentioned this policy during his tenure in the previous government between 2006 and 2007.

He also clarified that no new placements of Jakim officers in government departments have been made under the current administration.

On Monday, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department (Religious Affairs) Datuk Dr Mohd Na’im Mokhtar explained that Jakim officers are assigned to government agencies and departments primarily to organise Islamic religious programmes.

He referred to the Aug 7 Jakim statement, which indicated that the current federal administration under Anwar had not decided to place Jakim officers in every government department.

According to the statement, this policy was established in previous administrations dating back to the 1980s.

The MCCBCHST said in a statement recently that Jakim’s alleged encroachment into the public sphere might be unconstitutional as it could affect the fundamental rights guaranteed to all Malaysians.

MCCBCHST also argued that Jakim’s role in ensuring government policies align with Islamic principles would fall outside the constitutional scope of the term “Islam” as interpreted by the courts.

“Jakim’s involvement in government policymaking may be unconstitutional as in the public sphere, only such Islamic acts as relating to ‘rituals and ceremonies’ are included,” the interfaith council said in the statement.

The group had issued the statement in response to an Aug 13 news report, in which Sabah’s Liberal Democratic Party vice-president David Ong raised concerns about the placement of Jakim officers.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...to-dispel-fears

 

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