Wanna check if any one kind enuff to share experience with induction cooker hobs. I am keen to switch from a gas hob to induction hence seeking sharings. My research shows that there is another option ie ceramic. Read the pros and cons of each but wanna get some real experience.

I am looking at the fujioh hybrid hob which has 2 induction cookers and 1 ceramic.

Mod - can't find any such topics in lyn hence posting here. Do move this thread if there is indeed one that is more appropriate. Thanks a lot!

As a person cooks a lot, a gas stove still beats the crap out of induction / infrared, only thing I'll use my side induction is to boil water/soup

Else deep fry, stir fry, searing meat, still gas stove

This post has been edited by munak991: Aug 31 2024, 02:39 PM

Gas stove can easily adjusting the 🔥 plus gas is way cheaper compare to electricity bill.

i use


https://shopee.com.my/product/154039251/7215445259

User of induction + ceramic cooker here for almost 10 years

Pro:-
-No need buy gas anymore. No suddenly cooking alamak gas habis need wait delivery. If no electric, who wanna cook also right. Pergi luar makan

-No gas means no worry of gas leaking or explosion.

-Can set timer.

-Auto off if it detects no water, danger to prevent food from burnt (some models have this features)

-Very portable. Plug and use.

-Easier to clean compared to normal gas stove. Just wipe surface can dy.

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Cons:-
-Food quality is not as good as gas. No wok hei as Chinese call it.

-Need time to get used to induction/ceramic form of cooking.

-Need special induction cookware, not your usual pot/wok can use.

-More expensive to fix if spoilt.

This post has been edited by GTA5: Aug 31 2024, 02:55 PM

The irony is ktards support EV over fossil fuel.
But all reject electric hob over fossil fuel

gas stove > induction cooker.

used induction cooker for 2 years then back to gas stove.

the best.

Your electric bill will make you go back using gas

Induction also got levels to it, those cheap ones only got single coil. The better ones got multiple, so can handle different pot sizes and more even heating.

Ceramic is probably the worst, you waste a lot of energy heating a secondary element between the heat source and the target.

Asian home cooking need gas stove for versatility

When I lived oversea using induction a bit hard to adapt using the flat bottomed wok to make ckt. If u cook basic meals den ok la, but for festivities punya size it’s quite difficult

In turns of safety its pretty safe but there are still risks, for example the touch button easy to activate even for animal pawss

Scientist have found that Asian women die of cancer more than other ethnic.

They found the reason to be Asian women use gas stove to cook whilst American white people using electric stove.

Induction is for cock pleasers

This post sums it up.

I've been using 1 for 10 years now at my place. The other con is can't cook when there's a power outage. Need to eat out. Can be a hassle if you live in a condo.

The other thing is only the induction one can detect a dry pot. The ceramic one can't, so you still have to be careful with that.

Induction top is super easy to clean as it's flat surface

Gei hor you make glass charsiew, roast duck at home... Those go out eat better la, gas stove can't compete with daichow stove anyway

This post has been edited by viktorherald: Aug 31 2024, 03:37 PM

actually deep fry, use deep fryer the best. oil temp all just nice..

ppl here pakai cheap rm100-200 induction cooker ka? thats why bad impression?

Once i switched to truly induction..I wonder why i did not do so earlier; cleaner, faster, got more kitchen space to put things

CONS, cannot use non-ferrous, and no matter how high end your induction, it wont be as big as your biggest pan, so concentric heating on the coil circumference sahaja...and have to considere new wiring needs.

But still, sbb i have more space, easy clean, nice flat glass top, more space under cabinet since no gas required. And /k pakai s/s (copper clad) and cast iron saja

This post has been edited by ijan: Aug 31 2024, 03:37 PM

Thanks for laying this out. Exactly the reason why I am thinking of transitioning.

On the wok hei - we don't do large frying stuff at home hence no issues with that.

if boil soup/water/stew no need induction hud.

more importantly if household has more than 2 ppl, cook morning, dinner, lunch, get hud. otherwise you are just another consumer being fooled by marketing.

Bro, mind sharing what induction are you using? Like I said earlier, I am keen to get the hybrid fujioh with 2 induction and 1 ceramic burner. The ceramic can be used for those claypot etc that can't be used for induction cooking.

We are using the magic cooker now for soup. Very convenient and easy.

for me i rather use induction over gas stove any time. overall it is safer compare to EV with a battery.

only those who lazy or refuse to learn to cook properly using induction are the one that claim it is inferior to gas.

if u want dai chow style. normal gas stove also not able to do it, u need those industrial high pressure gas stove. similarly, electric cooker also have industrial range which can heat up the wok in a short time for even more efficient stir fying.

Like #2 mentioned if you cook a lot gas stove is way better than electric

If ts don't frequently cook just buy anything electric stove which suit your need is more than enough.

got cook? i though eat raw, rice also no wash.

Agree on the ceramic. Hence, still thinking if it is worthy to opt for 1 burner out of 3. Thinking can heat up claypot.....else, have to ditch them 🤦🏻‍♂️

yup, rice cook on gas stove using clay pot bestes. fak rice cooker.

no wok hei

Ngaku is culinary bangsat bro...

As I'm living in a building with my own backyard, I got the space, modal, and hobbies to buy those quirky weirdo machines and equipment back home to play test test.

Right now, in my backyard there's a Dehydrator that's used to make shrimps, scallops, abalones, lapcheong, etc. A miniature gas stove for rotisserie jiken duck siewyuk etc. A Ninja grill for me to cook the game (I occasionally go hunt deer with friends) I encountered here and there. A smoking cabinet for fishes, meat, etc (to make some Chinese Mala Sausages, or Cured Bacon etc) and plenty plenty moar.

Got my own herb garden also, but bebanyak coriander, bird eye chillies, lettuce, garlic sprouts and chives lel.

But one thing for sure la, good food make your days. Good Spending in some Michelin star restaurants... not really. Unless you're super duper familiar and whoring for those attentions.

I am assuming that you are coming from the point of cost? I don't think electricity would be an issue for my household given my solar system.

OOH!

I can smell and feel the Wok Hei from here in the YEWKAY.

charcoal claypot rice bestest

I don't do those kind of frying at home. Want ckt, just makan outside. Btw, cleaning that stove after is gonna be a hassle...

Kecian condo dweller like me no space to innovate

Use charcoal for best wok hei

Cleaning after cooking gotta be difficult... See the oil drip into the stove and around

yup, everything charcoal also bestes, boil water with charcoal also "bestest"..

the more things u add to your food and water, the more flavorful it will be..

I got single induction hob at wet kitchen just for light usage like making maggi at night. boiled water dem fast do maggi soup in less than 10 minutes



like this

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Aug 31 2024, 03:55 PM

that's why you need to have a specific wet kitchen just for proper cooking

Got. I also use gas. But I really scared

boil water with charcoal taste kinda "soft" a bit to me, but best if u wanna make kopi o with it

I kasik friend cook for me once.

Tibai Cheebai Marchauhais.

All meat open straight from their wrapper or container masuke stove cook straight. Not even wash and pat dry etc.

That dinner... I eat with the risk of kena diseases and masuk hospital for their hospitalitis.

I'm using Sincero.

Not because of cost, the way of cooking is different , if you not frequently cooking is hard to explain to you .

My house monthly electric bill cheapest RM 600+ tnb bill expensive or cheap i do not care.

Ayam prefer cook with faiyahhhhh

Don't forgot use cast iron pot too 😂

Thanks buddy. I googled this...wow, it is nearly double the price of fujioh. If not wrong, this is a Malaysia brand, right? Wonder why is it so expensive compared to a made in Japan hob.

I use the high pressure gas stove at my wet kitchen section . you dont have to spend a fortune to get similar experience

masuk kitchen kenot complain later lazy to clean up , smelly lah , etc. need to have discipline

Ok. Yes, there will be a period of adjustment. Will let the cooks in my household deal with that 😅

My hot kitchen mostly stainless steel, detergent flush, water hose rinse,pet blower/mop wipe dry and xiu gang after use, no need Missy Missy wipe here and there knn 😂

THIS!

controllable oil temp

same here, more like gerai setup already hahaha

but no problem with me, as I control that section

yes, you need the same setup as dai chow to be at least have wok hei. not use gas automagically will get it. u use normal gas stove with puny fire, boil 5L water also need 10-15 min. but claim got "wok hei" when stir fry char koay teow, thats just placebo effect.

That's a damn nice bowl of Noodle you got there bruh.

You got me sharing sharing liao





This post has been edited by AfraidIGotBan: Aug 31 2024, 04:13 PM

Actually those jepun gas stove also have temp controlled for deep fried purpose if you check the specifications brand like rinnai .

not mine lah, pic similar to this

I no longer want to snap everything i see into the hp , later need time to clean em up

tak shiok

Diu... My own neck..

topkek all these food pics makes me hungry already urghh

lapar wei

I prefer ceramic over induction.

Induction works similar to microwave. They did not heat your pans instead they heat your food. Also u need to check your pans material. Not all pans works for induction. The material could block the induction wave so u cant cook at all.

Ceramic on the other hands works similar like fire. It use heating element. It heats ur pans and u can cook ur meals. Different is some ceramic heating element not strong enough to heat up ur pans. So check their heats rating first before u buy the cooker.

In term of electric bill, i dont see any significant increase. Lol.

Had a harrowing experience using gas stove.. exploded once damage the kitchen cabinet and plaster ceiling..luckiy wife was unhurt.Really phobia using gas stove. Now using induction hob more than two years now..my electric bill.. Up to date, in my TNB bill, accumulated bill TNB utang me RM136.40.. I installed solar PV system on my house. Every month average electricity usage average 700kWh , monthly bill Negative RM5-RM7

This post has been edited by ad2000: Aug 31 2024, 04:24 PM

Thd one you bought are how many liters oil use?

can try these for more power

Commercial Induction Cooker (3500W)

https://shopee.com.my/SUNATUR-Commercial-Se...76-1d6b94e8dfd1

https://shopee.com.my/Berjaya-Commercial-In...dc-63e98ed06c4e

No lah. We didn't do a proper survey at that time.

Went to home fair and bought it there. Lesson learned. Never buy at those fairs.

how much for high pressure gas tank?

Seems ridiculous to want to opt for a stove that can't function in a black out

That is scary.....😮

Ok, thanks for the info. Will go view the models tomorrow and make a decision.

I've been using induction hob for > 10 years.

The only problem is you have to use suitable pots. I'm using WMF pots.

I don't know why some here say gas stove is more efficient. A lot of heat is wasted when using gas stove and this certainly affects efficiency.

Use induction cannot toss the wok. Also need to standby a plug.

Use gas for less headaches. Gas very less chance to spoil as not dependent on electronics

4 years and still on induction with daily cooking. Kitchen also not hot while cooking , and for high rise, no need to pening for delivery and limited space to put the gas.

And most people experience is on portable induction, which is not as good as those proper build in induction. Took a while to adjust to induction, but once you’re used to it, wont miss gas.

Best part, kitchen not hot while cooking, cleaning, spray and wipe on flat surface and the timer function when boiling or steaming something.

But as with all electrical appliance, yes one of the coil rosak, but manage to claim under warranty and still going strong. Also need to invest in good cooking tools, but with carbon steel and stainless steel pan / pot, one time investment je

This post has been edited by faridr: Aug 31 2024, 08:39 PM

Induction works differently from microwave.

Induction does not heat foods directly like microwave but using magnetic wave to heat up the cooking utensils which must contain iron. Google it.

It's true, but deep fryer need at least 1L oil

Hi TS, may refer to previous discussion here
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5458072&hl=

No wonder you think ceramic is better, you don't even understand the basic science behind it all

Induction uses magnets to heat up the iron in the pans, not the food. That's why you need to get the right pans. Who dafuq teach you it heats up the food? The material isn't blocking the induction, the wrong material doesn't have the iron to heat up the pan

Ceramic is the most sohai implementation of a hob.

So much energy is lost between transferring heat through the ceramic, why heat up the ceramic first if you can just directly heat up the pan? Total waste of energy, damn inefficient.

Ive been using induction for over 6yrs edy. Cook daily. Those saying no wok hei or food taste different or whatever shyt definitely dun even know how to cook. I manage to get wok hei using induction + stainless steel pot.

Pros for induction hob:
1)cooking speed is damn fast, easier to clean the cooktop. Wont consume much electricity as expected.
2)U can control the temperature/heating element like gas cooktop. The only thing is probably u need some trial n error to get use to controlling the temperature.
3)can set timer
4)no gas tank. No risk of explosion or gas leaking.

Cons: only specific pots/pans can be used. Cant cook if no electricity.

As for ceramic cooktop, it's almost the same as gas cooktop. Works on all types of pan and pots. Slower than induction in terms of cooking speed. But best for simmering soup compare to induction. And, with timer too.

My suggestion, better to get cooktop with both induction n ceramic.

This post has been edited by hiyyl: Aug 31 2024, 10:35 PM

another cons is have to pull wire. Some ppl based stove on yard, if the sole socket point is for the washing machine which is on the opposite side, then have to find creative ways to pull wire from the kitchen area.

also good power management on the same note, simply use stove and other devices together might overload

This post has been edited by viktorherald: Aug 31 2024, 10:41 PM

If the 3 induction stove types are all in use, would that be an issue? Was told that as long as the plug point is a 15A, that is adequate.

My induction+ ceramic cooktop seems to be programmed to not both function at max power.

6, 4 is the "maximum tolerance". Increase the 6 to 7 will force the other to be 3, 8 will force other to be 2. So there seems to be some safety mechanism

Have to use proper copper wire too

Electricity not high meh?

I got a dual induction stovetop in 2020 and never looked back since.

No need to worry about gas habis. Much better temperature control (and more instant), can get timer and much easier to clean up.

About those complaining for special cookware, all my old pots and pans were induction compatible.

Don't get those cheap portable induction tops, those suck.

Nope

I went from cheap induction (like those use for steamboat) to gas to back to a good induction cooker.

Pro and cons for both.
Gas
Pro
- more wok hei not due to higher heat but more freedom during cooking at max power. (combination of lifting the pan/wok + more vigorous pan/wok motion without fearing of scratching the glass top).
- can use with any type of cookware
- cheaper

Cons
- takes up space. Not as sleek
- gas does have some particles which don’t fully combust. Every time I use it, my air quality meter and air purifier spike. If you have an outdoor cooking area, then it doesn’t matter.

Induction
Pro
- heats up extremely fast. Much faster than gas.
- sleek and easy to clean
- consumes more power.
Cons
- only works with certain cookware
- power consumption. (Not just in terms of pricing, but those really high power induction will need a thicker copper cable, else your house gonna trip often.).

Don’t go with ceramic.
It’s slow and chances to stain and blacken the glass top is high.if your stove has one extra, there is no harm for the occasional cookware that’s not compatible, but know that it’s inconvenient to use that.

My recommendation…
If you’re living in a condo or a house where it’s inconvenient to have a powerful hood to suck the air out, go for induction.

Of course, if you live in a house with an outdoorish kitchen and have a maid to help you clean up, then by all means. Go for a gas stove.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Sep 1 2024, 11:11 AM

Contrary to what general assumption, nope it does not. Of course, you use more wattage if you set to maximum e.g. to boil water quicker...Normally at maximum, it takes less than 90 sec to completely reach boiling temp. Normal daily cooking use about 30-40% power (base on my daily experience)

not really, u will use more gas than electricity actually. pan are heated faster and cooking that require more heat like frying, deep frying, searing, boiling water all faster, you might end up just using the hob at average 1000W for maybe 1 hr a day cooking 3 meals a day.

Great sharing. Thanks a lot.👍🏻

Been using induction for more than 10 years.
Yes they need different pots and pans - easy way to test is use a magnet, if can stick to the bottom, then its induction compatible. Previously its more expensive to get induction pots/pans, now you can get it quite cheap (subject to quality as well)

Skip the ceramic, i got a hybrid and ended up rarely use the ceramic. Electricity wise not that bad depending on what you cook, simple stir fry that takes minutes wont use that much electricity and i doubt you will be blasting high power wattage for hours

my setup similar like this

minimum 2 liters

then filtered. I use Labour brand

use the normal tong gas

change the head using the high pressuere gas regulator

I learn that during my kedai time

Yes, gas stove ftw. Only problem is always need to check how much gas left and ordering one before it runs out of gas

this one based on my experience ok

I bought reputable induction glass hobs

somehow the glass cracked after a while ( warranty finished already by that time )

the cost to change the panel can buy almost a new set of similar model


then changed to another brand, still using till now

u guys dont keep spare at home kah?

Condo small, can't keep additional tong gas

ok ok, understand

btw there is one condo in PH that doesnt allow residents to have tong gas at home

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Sep 1 2024, 12:40 PM