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TS13aby
post Aug 12 2024, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 02:01 AM)
It’s already sized correctly. Don’t waste money

What I would suggest is to redo the pigtails as there is a minimum bend radius (don't hard turn 90 degrees), keep the cable curved gently. Nanti patah inside and create hotspot.
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I plan to change all to Hager , so i follow back all same 63a for the RCCB and 2 Pole MCB for incoming ya .


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post Aug 12 2024, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(rphoen1x @ Jul 30 2024, 01:37 PM)
I think you can check the authenticity at https://hager.com/_en/check
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Sent , but no reply from them since ever haha


QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 02:02 AM)
Make sure buy from proper seller. Many recon ABB and Hager from Singapore HIP refurbishing land in MY. Plus why don’t you get 6kA withstand model instead of the 4.5kA. ABB not expensive for 6kA
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Yes i bought from Authorised Reseller / Distributor shop (Pentapower(M) Sdn Bhd (Puchong) & (CPE Electrical Supplier via Shopee). But they say use 4.5k is enough . Or should i change all to 6k as developer provide?

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 02:06 AM)
Your clamp meter not true RMS is it.
One unit WH running from cold already take 14-16A easily.

The 16mm one you can buy Mega Kabel meter loose cut in the correct colours (red and black) as necessary, but if your supply (from meter) is 10mm then no point lah.

Also, not much use for the 100mA RCD when the 30mA RCD is capable for whole house sockets and lights. There is little point in using the 100mA RCD in modern day without fluorescent tube lights.
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Ya i redo the reading correct already , 1 WH running around 14A .... Incoming is 16mm from meter but thn 10mm to both RCCB (100mA & 30mA)

For my WH , Developer no give RCCB / RCBO i added myself for safety .
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post Aug 12 2024, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 12 2024, 04:33 PM)
Sent , but no reply from them since ever haha
Yes i bought from Authorised Reseller / Distributor shop (Pentapower(M) Sdn Bhd (Puchong) & (CPE Electrical Supplier via Shopee). But they say use 4.5k is enough . Or should i change all to 6k as developer provide?
Ya i redo the reading correct already , 1 WH running around 14A .... Incoming is 16mm from meter but thn 10mm to both RCCB (100mA & 30mA)

For my WH , Developer no give RCCB / RCBO i added myself for safety .
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Forget the 100mA RCD (buang), rerun with 16mm inside the DB. That 10mm is only good for ard 40A and can create a hotspot which is unprotected because it is supposed to be 16mm throughout.
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post Aug 12 2024, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 08:11 PM)
Forget the 100mA RCD (buang), rerun with 16mm inside the DB. That 10mm is only good for ard 40A and can create a hotspot which is unprotected because it is supposed to be 16mm throughout.
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means only use 1nos 30mA whole whole house?

The empty space is 2 nos RCCB 0.01 .. not yet install when snap this

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post Aug 12 2024, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 12 2024, 09:07 PM)
means only use 1nos 30mA whole whole house?

The empty space is 2 nos RCCB 0.01 .. not yet install when snap this

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Yes. According to MS1979 COP it is allowed. And safer too for changing lights.
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post Aug 12 2024, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 10:18 PM)
Yes. According to MS1979 COP it is allowed. And safer too for changing lights.
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My neutral bar is separated by two sides , can i connect both side by tapping a wire? or need to replace a longer bar
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post Aug 13 2024, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 12 2024, 10:41 PM)
My neutral bar is separated by two sides , can i connect both side by tapping a wire? or need to replace a longer bar
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Common neutral, use a 16mm Mega Kabel pigtail.
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post Aug 13 2024, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 13 2024, 02:50 AM)
Common neutral, use a 16mm Mega Kabel pigtail.
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U mean connect with a 16mm cable like photo ? 10mm boleh? Existing Neutral developer using 10mm for both side

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 13 2024, 10:02 AM)
U mean connect with a 16mm cable like photo ? 10mm boleh?

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Beli lah one meter of 16mm. Less than 10 bucks per meter only. 10mm not good enough. https://s.lazada.com.my/s.PTisA
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post Aug 13 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 13 2024, 10:07 AM)
Beli lah one meter of 16mm. Less than 10 bucks per meter only. 10mm not good enough. https://s.lazada.com.my/s.PTisA
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16mm i got spare , so i just tap the wire to connect the both bar ya
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i dono, but you using 3 phase or single phase?
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post Aug 13 2024, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Aug 13 2024, 11:24 AM)
i dono, but you using 3 phase or single phase?
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post Aug 14 2024, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 13 2024, 11:22 AM)
16mm i got spare , so i just tap the wire to connect the both bar ya
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Yes, do a smooth horseshoe shape
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post Aug 14 2024, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 14 2024, 05:14 AM)
Yes, do a smooth horseshoe shape
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just notice i dont have cutter size to cut 16mm haha , any recommendations for the cutter?
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post Aug 15 2024, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 14 2024, 05:52 PM)
just notice i dont have cutter size to cut 16mm haha , any recommendations for the cutter?
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MTC-45 or 47 cutters. (the biggest one)

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 12 2024, 10:41 PM)
My neutral bar is separated by two sides , can i connect both side by tapping a wire? or need to replace a longer bar
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if you plan to use your spare 100mA RCCB, then you cant connect both neutral bars.
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post Aug 17 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 08:11 PM)
Forget the 100mA RCD (buang), rerun with 16mm inside the DB. That 10mm is only good for ard 40A and can create a hotspot which is unprotected because it is supposed to be 16mm throughout.
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100mA removed and all now using 30mA RCCB

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post Aug 21 2024, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Aug 17 2024, 02:31 PM)
100mA removed and all now using 30mA RCCB

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The MCBs should ideally use the same brand so they're the same height.


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post Aug 22 2024, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 21 2024, 12:32 PM)
The MCBs should ideally use the same brand so they're the same height.
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ya will change all to hager , previously i test bought two mcb from 2 different seller . one of it when power off V test 7.xx 😢😢 suspect is fake .... the other one test V is 2.xx perfect ....
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 12 2024, 02:06 AM)
Your clamp meter not true RMS is it.
One unit WH running from cold already take 14-16A easily.

The 16mm one you can buy Mega Kabel meter loose cut in the correct colours (red and black) as necessary, but if your supply (from meter) is 10mm then no point lah.

Also, not much use for the 100mA RCD when the 30mA RCD is capable for whole house sockets and lights. There is little point in using the 100mA RCD in modern day without fluorescent tube lights.
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Developers have to comply to wiring regulation by Suruhanjaya Tenaga. 10 mA for water heater and wet area. 30 mA for sockets. 100mA for lighting and AC.

in the UK they have moved on to RCBO. No more RCCB as it is included in each circuit. So if there is leakage only individual circuit would trip not the whole house. In Malaysia RCBO is available for Water heater (20A, 10mA trip), the rest not widely available yet or price too expensive.

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