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TS13aby
post Jul 25 2024, 07:05 PM, updated 2y ago

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My house all Eletrical on to max Test incoming Power only around 10A . Means i can change to 2Pole 32A MCB? Developer give now all 63A (1 x 2Pole MCB , 1x 100mA and 30mA) All 63A macam too much .

and after the 2 Pole 63A incoming MCB , the outgoing Cable is using 10mm not 16mm sad.gif .

This post has been edited by 13aby: Jul 25 2024, 07:06 PM
syaifau
post Jul 25 2024, 07:29 PM

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what?
TS13aby
post Jul 25 2024, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(syaifau @ Jul 25 2024, 07:29 PM)
what?
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Dont la like this bro biggrin.gif

i not sure i clamp wrong or it really so low , 2 Airconds 2 WH this two is the biggest power eater i guess . Cuckoo , Air Fryer , Washine Machine and Fridge all On .

Or

i just follow back Developer 63A icon_question.gif because i planning to change all to HAGER . and mayb the 10mm to 16mm

Advice please rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 25 2024, 09:53 PM

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My knowledge in electrical is so vastly impaired, i cant even advise myself.

All the best with your investigation, @13aby
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post Jul 26 2024, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 25 2024, 08:41 PM)
Dont la like this bro  biggrin.gif

i not sure i clamp wrong or it really so low , 2 Airconds 2 WH this two is the biggest power eater i guess . Cuckoo , Air Fryer , Washine Machine and Fridge all On .

Or

i just follow back Developer 63A  icon_question.gif  because i planning to change all to HAGER . and mayb the 10mm to 16mm

Advice please  rclxm9.gif
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2 AC , 2 WH on already is about 20 A .

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post Jul 26 2024, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 25 2024, 08:05 PM)
My house all Eletrical on to max Test incoming Power only around 10A . Means i can change to 2Pole 32A MCB? Developer give now all 63A (1 x 2Pole MCB , 1x 100mA and 30mA) All 63A macam too much .

and after the 2 Pole 63A incoming MCB , the outgoing Cable is using 10mm not 16mm  sad.gif  .
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use MCB 20 A for AC, WH , 4 mm cable
MCB 6A for lightning. 1.5mm
MCB 16 A for 3 pin socket . 2.5mm

for RCCB 63A , 100mA for mains ,25mm cable
RCCB 63A , 30mA for the 3 pin sockets , 2.5mm cable
RCCB 63A , 10mA for WH , 4mm

post a pix of your DB box better to advise you.





TS13aby
post Jul 26 2024, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jul 26 2024, 12:42 AM)
2 AC , 2 WH  on already is about  20  A .
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ya thats why i feel weird also . mayb my clamp meter spoil sweat.gif
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post Jul 26 2024, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jul 26 2024, 01:14 AM)
use MCB 20 A    for AC,  WH  , 4 mm cable
MCB  6A   for lightning.         1.5mm
MCB 16 A   for  3 pin socket .   2.5mm

for RCCB   63A , 100mA  for mains   ,25mm  cable
RCCB  63A , 30mA    for  the 3 pin sockets  , 2.5mm cable
RCCB  63A , 10mA    for WH  ,    4mm

post a pix of your DB box  better to advise you.
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Using 63A incoming 2 Pole MCB and others 2 Main RCCB 63A also no problem? both is 100mA and 30mA now . Cable to 100mA and 30mA Developer give 10mm but the incoming TNB is 16mm . for the cable size min is 16mm for 63A

My is High Rise Property

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TS13aby
post Jul 26 2024, 11:41 PM

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here is the photo of the incoming (Bottom Left) to two RCCB
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post Jul 27 2024, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 26 2024, 10:48 PM)
Using 63A incoming 2 Pole MCB and others 2 Main RCCB 63A also no problem? both is 100mA and 30mA now . Cable to 100mA and 30mA Developer give 10mm but the incoming TNB is 16mm . for the cable size min is 16mm for 63A

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looks fine . pix too. nod.gif


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post Jul 27 2024, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jul 27 2024, 12:26 AM)
looks fine .  pix too.  nod.gif
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so means i can continue use all 63A ya cox i planning to change all to Hager .
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post Jul 27 2024, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 27 2024, 07:32 PM)
so means i can continue use all 63A ya cox i planning to change all to Hager .
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change over to Hager is better cos hager products good quality hence bit price higher.

the items your developer use i also never see this brand before.... maybe unknown china product no sirim too .


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post Jul 30 2024, 12:04 PM

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Bought from two different place , why color different?
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post Jul 30 2024, 01:37 PM

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I think you can check the authenticity at https://hager.com/_en/check
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post Aug 10 2024, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jul 26 2024, 01:14 AM)
use MCB 20 A    for AC,  WH  , 4 mm cable
MCB  6A  for lightning.        1.5mm
MCB 16 A  for  3 pin socket .  2.5mm

for RCCB  63A , 100mA  for mains  ,25mm  cable
RCCB  63A , 30mA    for  the 3 pin sockets  , 2.5mm cable
RCCB  63A , 10mA    for WH  ,    4mm

post a pix of your DB box  better to advise you.
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May I know why you use 63A RCCB instead of 25A RCCB for WH since there should be a 20A MCB for WH to protect the RCCB?
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post Aug 10 2024, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 10 2024, 02:52 PM)
May I know why you use 63A RCCB instead of 25A RCCB for WH since there should be a 20A MCB for WH to protect the RCCB?
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if you know your WH amp rating then chose accordingly .

yes can use rccb 25A, 10mA for those instant WH / 4kW type.

63A one can handle a heavy current
rccb do not trip on over current .





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post Aug 10 2024, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 30 2024, 01:04 PM)
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Bought from two different place , why color different?
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check box manufacture which country
marking on item side s may tell

there is china , France or fake that i have seen .




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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 26 2024, 11:41 PM)
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here is the photo of the incoming (Bottom Left) to two RCCB
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It’s already sized correctly. Don’t waste money

What I would suggest is to redo the pigtails as there is a minimum bend radius (don't hard turn 90 degrees), keep the cable curved gently. Nanti patah inside and create hotspot.

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 30 2024, 12:04 PM)
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Bought from two different place , why color different?
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Make sure buy from proper seller. Many recon ABB and Hager from Singapore HIP refurbishing land in MY. Plus why don’t you get 6kA withstand model instead of the 4.5kA. ABB not expensive for 6kA

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QUOTE(13aby @ Jul 25 2024, 07:41 PM)
Dont la like this bro  biggrin.gif

i not sure i clamp wrong or it really so low , 2 Airconds 2 WH this two is the biggest power eater i guess . Cuckoo , Air Fryer , Washine Machine and Fridge all On .

Or

i just follow back Developer 63A  icon_question.gif  because i planning to change all to HAGER . and mayb the 10mm to 16mm

Advice please  rclxm9.gif
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Your clamp meter not true RMS is it.
One unit WH running from cold already take 14-16A easily.

The 16mm one you can buy Mega Kabel meter loose cut in the correct colours (red and black) as necessary, but if your supply (from meter) is 10mm then no point lah.

Also, not much use for the 100mA RCD when the 30mA RCD is capable for whole house sockets and lights. There is little point in using the 100mA RCD in modern day without fluorescent tube lights.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Aug 12 2024, 02:09 AM

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