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post Jul 21 2024, 02:00 AM, updated 2y ago

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A company that I sent my resume to has now requested that I send my certificates, resume, application form, a photocopy of my IC, and latest payslip to their HR department.

Is it appropriate for me to send the photocopy of my IC to the company before the interview?

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post Jul 21 2024, 02:08 AM

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yup. just cross it out and remark .
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post Jul 21 2024, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(upcars @ Jul 21 2024, 02:08 AM)
yup. just cross it out and remark .
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post Jul 21 2024, 02:50 AM

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Some job requirements need security check

That why need ic copy but always cross the copy and stated for what it for

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post Jul 21 2024, 03:11 AM

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post Jul 21 2024, 03:39 AM

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Yes, I think it's quite common for them to request the copy.
But make sure you mark/cross your IC.
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post Jul 21 2024, 05:58 AM

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why does a job interview need your a photocopy of my IC, and latest payslip anyway?

my previous interview also never ask for me IC
if u hire me thn different story
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post Jul 21 2024, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 21 2024, 05:58 AM)
why does a job interview need your a photocopy of my IC, and latest payslip anyway?

my previous interview also never ask for me IC
if u hire me thn different story
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My friend told me that some large companies, if they review your resume and decide to hire you, will likely consider the interview a mere formality. Therefore, they will request your photocopy of your identification card first.





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post Jul 21 2024, 07:57 AM

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yes, they need to apply loan using your name
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post Jul 21 2024, 08:29 AM

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You apply for security guard post?
Else don't go ahead.
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post Jul 21 2024, 08:35 AM

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I hate company that ask latest payslip
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 21 2024, 05:58 AM)
why does a job interview need your a photocopy of my IC, and latest payslip anyway?

my previous interview also never ask for me IC
if u hire me thn different story
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Background check. Company will always check for bankruptcy status unless hiring for low risk positions.

QUOTE(ixaRA @ Jul 21 2024, 08:35 AM)
I hate company that ask latest payslip
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You can hate them, but they can also choose not to proceed with you.
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:03 AM

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That should only send when you are in on-boarding stage

Not at interview or offer stage

Big red flag
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 10:01 AM)
Background check. Company will always check for bankruptcy status unless hiring for low risk positions.
You can hate them, but they can also choose not to proceed with you.
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Only in on-boarding stage. After offer is signed
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jul 21 2024, 09:03 AM)
Only in on-boarding stage. After offer is signed
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Depends on company procedures and policies, but they will often do background check.

Personally I don't see the logic of only doing bankruptcy check after offer letter is issued. That's kind of a dumb move.
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:13 AM

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Giving your IC number already can check already. Unless u they conlanfirm hire u, then different story of giving ur ic.
Think about it, why would they want to keep a copy of ur IC? During interview, they just need to check whether the info tally or not with the copy.

As for ur payslip - they just want to low ball u... No u are getting x amount and if u are asking more than 40% of market rate, this would enable HR to nego nego lor.
Know ur value and how much they need to pay lor.
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jul 21 2024, 09:03 AM)
That should only send when you are in on-boarding stage

Not at interview or offer stage

Big red flag
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nah, if they have yet to decide to go with you it's a red flag.
many scam now doing this to sell your info


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post Jul 21 2024, 09:23 AM

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Send them, they need those infos to get tender or projects. Hire you or not is another matter.
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:25 AM

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they never asked for colored IC... dont bodoh bodoh give colored IC...

Also once taken, use watermark software instead of crossing it with normal pen... it makes it harder to remove with editing software if people wanna be funny with your ic copy

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 09:09 AM)
Depends on company procedures and policies, but they will often do background check.

Personally I don't see the logic of only doing bankruptcy check after offer letter is issued. That's kind of a dumb move.
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I also feel dumb asking for photocopy ic when the candidate is not even selected or short listed Are they going to do background check for every interviewee? I guess to employer they don’t care. Or easier for them. No need to ask again after short listed. Or maybe they want to test how good you follow instructions even if it’s dumb.
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QUOTE(abm @ Jul 21 2024, 09:29 AM)
I also feel dumb asking for photocopy ic when the candidate is not even selected or short listed Are they going to do background check for every interviewee? I guess to employer they don’t care. Or easier for them. No need to ask again after short listed. Or maybe they want to test how good you follow instructions even if it’s dumb.
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We're going side track here. At which hiring stage are you referring to now? If the candidate is shortlisted for interview then it's fair to ask for IC copy.
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:42 AM

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If big reputable company can trust. You go find kicimiao type then susah
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jul 21 2024, 09:42 AM)
If big reputable company can trust. You go find kicimiao type then susah
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Big or small, I would still err on the caution side by hand-writing remarks on the IC for the specific purpose I'm providing it for smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2024, 09:48 AM

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My company practise non exec no need any photocopy unless already we employ them.
For exec and above, it is norm procedure to request interviewee specific photocopies.
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jul 21 2024, 09:48 AM)
My company practise non exec no need any photocopy unless already we employ them.
For exec and above, it is norm procedure to request interviewee specific photocopies.
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Yeap, it's about risk management, it usually is part of company hiring procedures.
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I no give with remark only give when hire. Get interview anyway
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post Jul 21 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(abm @ Jul 21 2024, 09:29 AM)
I also feel dumb asking for photocopy ic when the candidate is not even selected or short listed Are they going to do background check for every interviewee? I guess to employer they don’t care. Or easier for them. No need to ask again after short listed. Or maybe they want to test how good you follow instructions even if it’s dumb.
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how come ppl treat this kind of pnc very lightly these days?

your copy of mykad can be used for so many things, registering prepaid is one of it. the dealers can still do it without ekyc cool2.gif



you still can validate the candidate details via traditional way, just need ic number will do

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jul 21 2024, 07:47 AM)
My friend told me that some large companies, if they review your resume and decide to hire you, will likely consider the interview a mere formality. Therefore, they will request your photocopy of your identification card first.
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if they decide to hire me yes
but before 1st interview already request IC, that's a very clear intention to resell your information already

QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 09:01 AM)
Background check. Company will always check for bankruptcy status unless hiring for low risk positions.
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they don't need to photocopy of IC to do background check bro
they already have the number when i go interview and fill in their application form
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jul 21 2024, 09:42 AM)
If big reputable company can trust. You go find kicimiao type then susah
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don't trust them big or small
if you ask me, the bigger the company..the more likely they're collecting information for resell purposes
the smaller one has lesser chance but can't completely rule it out
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 21 2024, 12:45 PM)
they don't need to photocopy of IC to do background check bro
they already have the number when i go interview and fill in their application form
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They need to especially when engaging third party services. They need the copy of IC to certify that there is no fraud involve. If you mistakenly provide the wrong IC number, they will either unable to proceed with the background check, or in a universe where there are two people with similar names and I numbers, they are going to end up doing background check on the wrong person. It's not just about the IC number, there are addresses and photos, and more importantly, the accountability of the info provided is never on the company but you.
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jul 21 2024, 09:03 AM)
That should only send when you are in on-boarding stage

Not at interview or offer stage

Big red flag
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alot of jobs require you to prove that you're malaysian, the single most important proof is your IC. Take it up to msian govt because it is their requirement not to hire foreigners whistling.gif
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 01:11 PM)
They need to especially when engaging third party services. They need the copy of IC to certify that there is no fraud involve. If you mistakenly provide the wrong IC number, they will either unable to proceed with the background check, or in a universe where there are two people with similar names and I numbers, they are going to end up doing background check on the wrong person. It's not just about the IC number, there are addresses and photos, and more importantly, the accountability of the info provided is never on the company but you.
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basically selling your info away

meanwhile spying on your husband/wife doesn't even need their photocopy IC as well
meanwhile check CTOS also don't need photocopy IC
meanwhile u go bank to do any business these days, they also don't need your photocopy IC already(except public bank), they just need your IC, plug it in and verify your thumbprint

but you go interview, it's actually normal to provide photocopy IC rclxub.gif
funny how malaysian and certain people is right now...and then when keep receiving spam call/SMS, they blame everybody else but themselves

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 21 2024, 01:19 PM)
basically selling your info away

meanwhile spying on your husband/wife doesn't even need their photocopy IC as well
meanwhile check CTOS also don't need photocopy IC
meanwhile u go bank to do any business these days, they also don't need your photocopy IC already(except public bank), they just need your IC, plug it in and verify your thumbprint

but you go interview, it's actually normal to provide photocopy IC rclxub.gif
funny how malaysian and certain people is right now...and then when keep receiving spam call/SMS, they blame everybody else but themselves
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You're mixing two and two. First of all, you need ICs to do over the counter banking matters, this is to verify you are who you are. Secondly, I didn't say give your copy of IC carte blanche, some posts back I already mentioned to attempt to safeguard that particular copy. Thirdly, you're lumping those who give legit copies for legit reasons with those who would put blame around together.

You're free to deny giving them your IC, but they are also free to toss aside your application before calling you to interview.

Would the bank request your IC before or after creating an account for you? Try walking into a bank now, and tell them you will only give them your IC after your loan is approved or your saving account is created.

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 01:27 PM)
You're mixing two and two. First of all, you need ICs to do over the counter banking matters, this is to verify you are who you are. Secondly, I didn't say give your copy of IC carte blanche, some posts back I already mentioned to attempt to safeguard that particular copy. Thirdly, you're lumping those who give legit copies for legit reasons with those who would put blame around together.

You're free to deny giving them your IC, but they are also free to toss aside your application before calling you to interview.

Would the bank request your IC before or after creating an account for you? Try walking into a bank now, and tell them you will only give them your IC after your loan is approved or your saving account is created.
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i'm mixing anyone up
few question for u to ask yourself before u reply anyone

1. yes, there is a different between needing IC to do over the counter banking matter and having them photocopy your IC...it's 2 totally different thing altogether
2. how do you know they're legit and using your IC for legit reasons?...can you 100% guarantee that?
3. how do you know they're gonna hire you at the end....i notice people send 50 applications, 48 prolly won't even reply you...you're gonna send 50 photocopy IC to all applications and deem all to be legit? rclxub.gif
4. if they reply can you come interview next tuesday at 10AM and request u to send them a photocopy of your IC...thn when you reach there, it doesn't exist thn how?
sounded like a new scam tactic brows.gif

that's why on my 1st post in this thread i've said very clearly...if they decide to hire me, i'll give them my IC/photocopy IC, i'm not sending anybody my photocopy IC in interview stage...that's dangerous AF

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 02:27 PM)
You're mixing two and two. First of all, you need ICs to do over the counter banking matters, this is to verify you are who you are. Secondly, I didn't say give your copy of IC carte blanche, some posts back I already mentioned to attempt to safeguard that particular copy. Thirdly, you're lumping those who give legit copies for legit reasons with those who would put blame around together.

You're free to deny giving them your IC, but they are also free to toss aside your application before calling you to interview.

Would the bank request your IC before or after creating an account for you? Try walking into a bank now, and tell them you will only give them your IC after your loan is approved or your saving account is created.
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So far, from MNC to cxo role interview never did I encounter this request to provide IC, or other credential in interview stage, well probably because only in Malaysia, data privacy is shit.

If this happen In country that has strict data protection, whatever reason give by the interviewer gonna cost them lots of legal issue and fined

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 21 2024, 01:42 PM)
i'm mixing anyone up
few question for u to ask yourself before u reply anyone

1. yes, there is a different between needing IC to do over the counter banking matter and having them photocopy your IC...it's 2 totally different thing altogether
2. how do you know they're legit and using your IC for legit reasons?...can you 100% guarantee that?
3. how do you know they're gonna hire you at the end....i notice people send 50 applications, 48 prolly won't even reply you...you're gonna send 50 photocopy IC to all applications and deem all to be legit? rclxub.gif
4. if they reply can you come interview next tuesday at 10AM and request u to send them a photocopy of your IC...thn when you reach there, it doesn't exist thn how?
sounded like a new scam tactic brows.gif

that's why on my 1st post in this thread i've said very clearly...if they decide to hire me, i'll give them my IC/photocopy IC, i'm not sending anybody my photocopy IC in interview stage...that's dangerous AF
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2. You don't know and nobody can guarantee anything. Even JPN cannot guarantee your data won't get leaked. We have PDPA for legal protection means.

3. What kind of question is this? There is no certainty in life. The decision to hire you is not solely dependent on you giving them a copy of your IC wth doh.gif I don't know, but I guess if you don't get hired, it's probably has more got to do with the fact that either you're not qualified or there are better candidates than you. What I said regarding them having the prerogative to toss your application aside is purely procedural matter.

4. You have to do your own due diligence, as much as they are researching about you, you should also do research about the company. Don't expect everything to be spooned to you. This is one of the basic job applicants must do. Come on, this is common sense.
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jul 21 2024, 02:02 PM)
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Yeap, must mention for X company application and put the date as well.
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 21 2024, 02:06 PM)
Yeap, must mention for X company application and put the date as well.
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