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 DNB and 2nd 5G network: needed or not?

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TSOfficiallyAhmad
post Jun 2 2025, 08:05 PM

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With DNB 5G, the cost effiency is instant result. Everyone and journalist and even international 6G researcher already notice the benefits of using wholesale rollout. MNO doesn't have to buy spectrum and MCMC doesn't need to allocate a lot of spectrum and the cost to maintain the network is fair and square for every MNO.

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Ironically after DNB, now we can see the effect of what should the competition do where price and innovation is being prioritize instead of bragging about having the biggest network. Because during the 4G days, the reason people pay expensive plan price is because of coverage only, not because of the extra service they get and I'm sure they don't even care about the extra services.

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So for a decades these big MNO get away charging high prices yet some people said that competition makes everything cheaper which is why I'm weird why a monopoly like DNB can somehow make these 5G price plan cheaper than 4G if the cost is much higher than building own network.

What is the use of competition if the goverment still need to babysit the MNO? Might as well rip the band-aid off and use the rollout model where spectrum can be used efficiently and MNO get the same coverage. With MSAP, goverment can certainly ensure the price is keep affordable instead of expecting these MNO who only know how to drain the customer wallet dry for the shareholders.

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Even in other country, they already start to use wholesale network for their 5G knowing how efficient the rollout model is. Ironically, Malaysia MNO and shareholder doesn't have problem with rural MOCN almost like privatize the profits while socialize the losses.

In my opinion, the long term of wholesale network will benefits all people without any bias towards profitability area. TNB and Pos Malaysia shown what a centralize organization can do, every rural spot is covered by Pos and TNB. Not even international courier can have the same rural coverage like Pos Malaysia.

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I agree that giving the second wholesale network to Umobile can be a mistake because of concern about MNO priority possibility and Umobile funding capibility. In my oppinion, Only Maxis and CelcomDigi should be the only MNO that enter the submission.
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post Jun 4 2025, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 2 2025, 08:31 PM)
The BIGGEST mistake is MCMC awarding just to one single company instead of insisting of a consortium of joint partnership between several telcos among the BIG-3.

How can it just went ahead to award to some small unproven company which wasn't even one of the Big-3 getting 100% of the award.

It's just too sus.

The whole model of a DNB shared network is supposed to be an open one of a joint consortium with shared ownership/stakes like many countries did even with DNB 1 as its base model.

Why the sudden award to just 1 small company leaving out the rest? It'll surely end up as a monopoly in future.
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Feels like everyone already know why the 2nd network is coincidentally only one small MNO instead of shared consortium like DNB.

But I like the bed of my home more than staying behind bar.

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post Jun 29 2025, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 21 2025, 03:01 PM)
Main problem is DNB was setup without telco in it and made technical decision and procurement to select a vendor that is incompatible with any operators in Malaysia. DNB got in billions ringgit of debt guarantee by MOF.

Unlike other countries where the telcos were the one forming the consortium to decide on the technology behind and also the contract agreement.

The only value with DNB to telco now is the 5G license spectrum, the rest are all bad debts… MOF not wanting to cover the debt now is seeking bailout from the two richer telco, that is why the 2nd license given to UM (one of the reason beside meow)

Therefore, in summary, DNB is a mistake by MOF (Finance minister back then- Z) and now gov wants telco to bail it out …

5G by individual telco > 5G Consortium by telco (like Korea or Singapore) > 5G Consortium by MOF (DNB)

DNB SWN is the only one in the world not setup by telco but by Ministry of Finance that does not know shit about 5G …
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You said 5G individual is better than consortium, yet the data show otherwise.

Why is it that 10 years after 4G was released, Malaysia 4G is still barely surpassing other ASEAN countries?

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I’ve never seen any Malaysia 4G MNO make world news or achieve anything significant other than finding ways to rip off customers with internet that barely outperformed Thailand.

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Also during the 4G era, there was congestion during peak times too, yet I didn’t see people complaining about MNO 4G "competitive" rollout. Now with 4G network traffic being offloaded to 5G, suddenly everyone puts on rose tinted glasses when talking about the 4G rollout when in reality, the MNO release expensive plan prices with hidden FUP, low data caps, speed caps and many more issue .

Yet with DNB, with just 100MHz spectrum, consumers already get the benefit instantly. You can pay as low as RM25 for unlimited 5G. With DNB, people can now subscribe to affordable home broadband without paying fibre prices like in the 4G era. Has everyone forgotten this?

I don’t remember this much scrutiny when big telcos like Maxis and Celcom charged ridiculous prices during 4G early days. Yet with DNB, from Day One, people got affordable 5G services instantly the moment it went public.

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post Jun 29 2025, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Jun 27 2025, 01:38 PM)
It cant... Gov take back another 100mhz to umobile...
Previously whole malaysia users can use 200mhz together...
Now is 33m subs using dnb 5g and 6m subs using um 5g...
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For your information, DNB never release the full 200MHz. It's been using 100MHz since the start.
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post Jul 5 2025, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 5 2025, 12:53 PM)
What is so open when the award went to a telco which is not even a Big 3 and a single company not a consortium tender?

Open means it must allow justification, queries and fair competition.

If every telco wants its own then the only fair approach is consortium based to create 2 different competing groups for healthy competition. Not solely award to just ONE telco which will even cause more complications in future such as rent seeking and speculations to get it sold off to interested buyers for debt reduction.
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It's kinda defeat the purpose of consortium when the 2nd network is literally a single MNO only. Weird why MCMC and Fahmi going towards the current rollout instead of the split consortium where every MNO spend fairly instead of suddenly one MNO holding the burden of creating a duplicate networks which expert in the news already said, it will be financially destructive.

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post Jul 31 2025, 01:27 PM

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RMK13: Government Targets 5G Coverage to Reach 98% Rate by 2030

https://amanz.my/2025527492

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post Aug 13 2025, 03:34 PM

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user posted image https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...ed-areas/187431

Based on this article, Umobile already activate their 5G tower online or not?
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post Aug 15 2025, 02:50 AM

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It seems they will be more news about the 2nd 5G networks next week.

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post Aug 18 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(jasontanky @ Aug 17 2025, 12:04 AM)
DNB started to broadcast 5G SA network in Klang Valley wide
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Source: https://twitter.com/Soya_Cincau/status/1957290645137371571

https://soyacincau.com/2025/08/18/u-mobile-...a-times-square/

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post Aug 18 2025, 07:40 PM

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At this point, ALL tech journalists need to learn from you because I legit learn more from you. And you hit the nail spot on the inconsistency between the article and real world. The difference is massive and I hope Malaysia tech journalist can use your question to scrutinize the MNO more.


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