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TSStarbucki
post Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM, updated 7 months ago

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So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think


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post Jun 28 2024, 07:48 AM

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Why do you assume continuous human landing is a given?
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post Jun 28 2024, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Jun 28 2024, 07:48 AM)
Why do you assume continuous human landing is a given?
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post Jun 28 2024, 07:53 AM

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Because no body want to go there. Nothing much to see. biggrin.gif

No need to risk human life since robot can do the job.
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post Jun 28 2024, 07:54 AM

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post Jun 28 2024, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 28 2024, 07:53 AM)
Because no body want to go there. Nothing much to see.  biggrin.gif

No need to risk human life since robot can do the job.
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Can go pits of the ocean and get pulverised, but cannot risk going to the moon?? Fishy!!
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post Jun 28 2024, 07:55 AM

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U give me maneh, I ma go lo

Which citizen wanna see gov waste money send human to rock ball in today age, dumbass betul si ts
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post Jun 28 2024, 07:59 AM

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It's like going to sahara desert. It's expensive, nothing to see, potentially fatal.

Been there once " wow so nice so many sands make great selfie"

But would you want to go there again?
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:00 AM

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Lol of course fake la. There is a group of ppl believe the earth is round. Topkek the earth is flat. Period. If you go too far you fall the edge of the earth
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:03 AM

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They went, they found the Decepticon ship and salvaged the shit out of it. Then they stopped going. This is extensively recorded in the documentary Revenge of the Fallen.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 28 2024, 07:53 AM)
Because no body want to go there. Nothing much to see.  biggrin.gif

No need to risk human life since robot can do the job.
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QUOTE(dwks @ Jun 28 2024, 07:55 AM)
U give me maneh, I ma go lo

Which citizen wanna see gov waste money send human to rock ball in today age, dumbass betul si ts
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 28 2024, 07:59 AM)
It's like going to sahara desert. It's expensive, nothing to see, potentially fatal.

Been there once " wow so nice so many sands make great selfie"

But would you want to go there again?
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National pride! You think russia and china duwan go there and filem2? You think trump and elong ma duwan go there if the tech is real??
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:55 AM)
Can go pits of the ocean and get pulverised, but cannot risk going to the moon?? Fishy!!
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The NASA program was to send 12 people to the moon from 69 to 72. There were 7 mission Apollo 11 to Apollo 17 including one failed mission which is Apollo 13. Public interest faded fast after Apollo 13 thus you never heard much about the rest. So except for the failed one, the rest got astronauts landing on the moon.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p...ked_on_the_Moon

https://www.space.com/how-many-people-have-...ked-on-the-moon
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:04 AM

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moon landing is not real
but 69 is real good
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QUOTE(potatolala @ Jun 28 2024, 08:00 AM)
Lol of course fake la. There is a group of ppl believe the earth is round. Topkek the earth is flat. Period. If you go too far you fall the edge of the earth
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the sun orbit around us. we r the centre of the universe..no other lifeform comes to find us bcoz we 1 finger can pulverize them. just the place we live in gravity too high for us to realize our great power.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:05 AM

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Earth Prince reached there and placed the laser deflector before americunts,
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jun 28 2024, 08:04 AM)
moon landing is not real
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Another way to go to the moon
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The movie "Interstellar" mentioned moon landing is fake.

Owaiii...
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 08:03 AM)
National pride! You think russia and china duwan go there and filem2? You think trump and elong ma duwan go there if the tech is real??
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Pride? So you are the type purposely do something (useless stuff) for ego?

Rather spend money on exotic places just for Instagram photos than on things that are more important?

A: I been to Artic 20 years ago

B: aiya 20 years ago and now different already. Should spend your money go there every year

A: (Rage Pride eats you up) ok. I go every year

You type A ke?
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:08 AM

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But ppl still believe santa claus rite...
Of coz it fake....
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:09 AM

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it was live on TV back in 69.
must be real, although canNOT make it live now.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:11 AM

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Too expensive.
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Most probably landed on a dead planet.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:12 AM

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Nanti China send their miners there mining graphene baru nak percaya kot.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 28 2024, 08:08 AM)
Pride? So you are the type purposely do something (useless stuff) for ego?

Rather spend money on exotic places just for Instagram photos than on things that are more important?

A: I been to Artic 20 years ago

B: aiya 20 years ago and now different already. Should spend your money go there every year

A: (Rage Pride eats you up) ok. I go every year

You type A ke?
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:50 AM)
Dont question wad is in my mind. Question the circumstances!
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What circumstances?
That NASA had the largest budget at the time and Nixon wanted to cut spending, so Apollo 18 got cancelled?
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That NASA had an idea for an entirely new concept to travel to the moon, but only got the Space Shuttle funded and that was limited to LEO?
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That the Soviets failed to get the N1 working and Korolyev's death was a big setback to their political will to get shit done?
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:14 AM

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Wait till you see their planned Alien Invasion Event in 2025.
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Because it was a space race during cold war between US and USSR to see who could reach the moon first to raise one country's pride. If moon landing was fake, USSR would be the first one to dispute it. Why didn't USSR do that? Because USSR knew that it is real and the space race to the moon was over.

Why no one going there since then? The technology was there but just "too expensive" to send human beings to moon.

Now why people interested to try to go to moon again? It is because the space race flame is lit again between US and China to go to Mars. Because Moon is a stepping stone to go to Mars.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:19 AM

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I think the tech is similar then and now. We were only able to send a probe there. From the pics and data america made an act using studio to produce what you saw on tv
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:21 AM

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I don't think the moon is real anyway.

Logically how can a big ass planet just disappear every morning and come up again at night.
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 08:03 AM)
National pride! You think russia and china duwan go there and filem2? You think trump and elong ma duwan go there if the tech is real??
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Haha early morning sudah bodoooo

Ask ur elonmush to sell Twitter to go lor, why u wan use my tax money to go sial

Do u even know how much it cost to go to moon bodo
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 08:12 AM)
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think with your head la dude.

your reasoning to go to the moon is for pride

your reasoning for USA not doing it every year (and as per your title) is it a hoax

so which is which la??

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post Jun 28 2024, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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How many time did the NASA send the man to moon?
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post Jun 28 2024, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(gaman @ Jun 28 2024, 08:19 AM)
Because it was a space race during cold war between US and USSR to see who could reach the moon first to raise one country's pride. If moon landing was fake, USSR would be the first one to dispute it. Why didn't USSR do that? Because USSR knew that it is real and the space race to the moon was over.

Why no one going there since then? The technology was there but just "too expensive" to send human beings to moon.

Now why people interested to try to go to moon again?  It is because the space race flame is lit again between US and China to go to Mars. Because Moon is a stepping stone to go to Mars.
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There is no dispute because Putin was not allowed to check all the astronauts before they fly out. Did you check the space craft before they fly off? What also no check all jus talk only.
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First moon landing was a race to see who reach first. No fame or bragging rights for 2nd or third. So no point sending more people which is very high risk and very high cost. There is basically nothing there so just send robots etc to collect samples.

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Actually there is really no reason to go there beyond mining and pride, even if the mining also not sure can be profitable or not.

Even going to Mars alrd sound so dangerous. I dont see how they can make it profitable within a generation.
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thr is nothing to land on! it's not 3D. it's 2D. a flat disk facing downwards. thr's no outer space either. the moon & the sun r in our atmosphere. just a few thousand km above. & both are much, much smaller in size, than wat the books tell u. look at the moon whn thr's a full moon. do u think it's actually a few million km away?

we r not moving either. not hurtling through 'space' at thousands of miles/hour. dun believe wat ppl tell u. do u actually feel yourself moving?

look at the stupid space suits. seriously can protect the astronauts?


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post Jun 28 2024, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ Jun 28 2024, 09:26 AM)
thr is nothing to land on! it's not 3D. it's 2D. a flat disk facing downwards. thr's no outer space either. the moon & the sun r in our atmosphere. just a few thousand km above. & both are much, much smaller in size, than wat the books tell u. look at the moon whn thr's a full moon. do u think it's actually a few million km away?

we r not moving either. not hurtling through 'space' at thousands of miles/hour. dun believe wat ppl tell u. do u actually feel yourself moving?

look at the stupid space suits. seriously can protect the astronauts?
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Just stick to the point, ffs. All this apa sarahan spin just makes it all more dodgy.
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QUOTE(potatolala @ Jun 28 2024, 08:00 AM)
Lol of course fake la. There is a group of ppl believe the earth is round. Topkek the earth is flat. Period. If you go too far you fall the edge of the earth
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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There are so many funny official footage online
The call without delay to moon
The funny moon walking
The punch of astronaut when journalist ask him to answer with palm on bible
The super fake interview by USA president with 3 astronauts standing like cheap actors
The claims of fake moon stones by receiving countries
And the claim of lost of data of how apollo flying to moon, seriously?

I am science student and i seriously doubt that they flew there during 1969.

Elon musk will be a retard to spend so much just to fly to edge of earth, because 1969 they already have a small machine that escape moon fetching 3 people and few hundred kg of stones
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Go moon do what fuck? Spent billions and take selfie come back?
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 08:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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The various instruments left on the moon at that time could only be completed by human astronauts. For example, the laser reflectors placed on the moon at that time can still be found. There were also seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters placed on the moon at that time.

These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it. Please note that all those instruments were sent to moon in APOLLO 11 mission and there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !


We know that all those instruments are still there and confirmed by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !


Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?
2) Who place it precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !


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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 09:31 AM)
Just stick to the point, ffs. All this apa sarahan spin just makes it all more dodgy.
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You try to stand upside down now and see how your brain feels? That is why shpere also doubtful because the person standing at bottom or top of the sphere not supposed to feel the same.
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China is challenging America to go to the Moon, and then Mars. America scramble plans to meet the challenges.

The Cold War 2 has begun since Trump as President
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 09:45 AM)
The various instruments left on the moon at that time could only be completed by human astronauts. For example, the laser reflectors placed on the moon at that time can still be found. There were also seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters placed on the moon at that time.

These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it. Please note that all those instruments were sent to moon in APOLLO 11 mission and there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !
We know that all those instruments is still there and confirm by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !
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How to know the pictures are not doctored? When I show you ghost video then you very fast will say its doctored?
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:47 AM)
How to know the pictures are not doctored? When I show you ghost video then you very fast will say its doctored?
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It does not matter the photos are real or not , because we know that all those instruments are still there and confirmed by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !


Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?
2) Who place it precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !

This post has been edited by James8899: Jun 28 2024, 09:54 AM
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You think China and Russia won't expose them if it's fake?
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on that 60's , when soviet send up a satelite and astronaut, US scare to shit, JFK make brave move, send people to the moon in 10 years whatever is cost...
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 09:53 AM)
It does not matter the photos are real or not , because we know that all those instruments are still there and confirmed by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !
Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?
2) Who place it precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !
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How I also confirm to you those ghost video are not doctored and confirmed by alot of eye witnessess? But you won't believe. Humans only believe what they want to believe.
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Dont understand why ppl questioned the moon landing in the 60s...Actually already done it 60s...Russia also landed in moon back then....So why ppl still wanna go moon lar and try to glorify it ? Better think of going Mars and make it a reality...
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:57 AM)
How I also confirm to you those ghost video are not doctored and confirmed by alot of eye witnessess? But you won't believe. Humans only believe what they want to believe.
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Photo

CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth , so instruments on moon are real and photos are not important already !

So you agree all those instrument on moon are real ? Answer this question first

This post has been edited by James8899: Jun 28 2024, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 28 2024, 09:56 AM)
You think China and Russia won't expose them if it's fake?
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putin is bad people how to believe? ccp tech suddenly so advance in 20 years. who knows if usa secret deal with them? I teach u tech, you back me up?
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 09:45 AM)
The various instruments left on the moon at that time could only be completed by human astronauts. For example, the laser reflectors placed on the moon at that time can still be found. There were also seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters placed on the moon at that time.

These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it. Please note that all those instruments were sent to moon in APOLLO 11 mission and there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !
We know that all those instruments are still there and confirmed by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !
Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?
2) Who place it precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !
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wow, this facts not many know
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:00 AM)
Photo

CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth , so instruments on moon are real and photos are not important already !

So you agree all those instrument on moon are real ? Answer this question first
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IF you can send robot there already , just your use robot to take a video of those instruments and then send it back to a neutral parties on earth to examine the video.

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 09:45 AM)
The various instruments left on the moon at that time could only be completed by human astronauts. For example, the laser reflectors placed on the moon at that time can still be found. There were also seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters placed on the moon at that time.

These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it. Please note that all those instruments were sent to moon in APOLLO 11 mission and there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !
We know that all those instruments are still there and confirmed by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !
Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?
2) Who place it precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !
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why spend so much effort. people will believe what they want. as TS said, more proof u put on teh table they will think you are hiiding something.

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after all the world is flat... lol
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putin is bad people how to believe? ccp tech suddenly so advance in 20 years. who knows if usa secret deal with them? I teach u tech, you back me up?
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It was film in area 51 btw
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Ww2 ww1 also faked

Near 80 years

Not happen ww3???


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You think China and Russia won't expose them if it's fake?
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Indeed.

Why didn't we hear any reputable scientists from USSR and China to dispute the US moon landing?

Instead we have those foolish conspiracy theorists and flat earthers to dispute that.
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QUOTE(gaman @ Jun 28 2024, 10:13 AM)
Indeed.

Why didn't we hear any reputable scientists from USSR and China to dispute the US moon landing?

Instead we have those foolish conspiracy theorists and flat earthers to dispute that.
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CGI? LOL!

You guys forgot what CGI was like before Jurassic Park and The Phantom Menace kah?

The best CGI back in the 80s were probably Tron and it look like this.

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The moon landing was back in 1969. Got CGI back then?

Those who said it was all just filmed in studio, do they know that back then it was cold war.

If US really didn't go there, do you think the Soviet Union will not make it the laughing stock of the world?

People today really don't know history and what happened during Cold War.




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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:15 AM)
you got see any cop here willing to tell where is the pastor now? You are too naive and gullible. God bless...
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Naive and gullible?

I suggest you go belajar sejarah first before putting out your stupid comments here.

You know what was happening in the 60s?

Do you even know Soviet Union was competing with US to go to the moon first.

If US were to fake the landings, don't you think Soviet Union will not expose it and use it to make America the laughing stock of the world?

In fact, Soviet Union was tracking the Apollo rockets and they knew they lost the race to the moon.

That is why they abandoned their moon landing program after 1969.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:15 AM)
CGI? LOL!

You guys forgot what CGI was like before Jurassic Park and The Phantom Menace kah?

The best CGI back in the 80s were probably Tron and it look like this.

user posted image

The moon landing was back in 1969. Got CGI back then?

Those who said it was all just filmed in studio, do they know that back then it was cold war.

If US really didn't go there, do you think the Soviet Union will not make it the laughing stock of the world?

People today really don't know history and what happened during Cold War.
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Dont be pembaris la. CGI is just a descriptor that the whole thing was faked. Arguing about CGI is strawmang fallacy.

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Sorry silly dupe 30624770, use your original account if you want to argue.

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Hi Admins / Mods / Staffs

I'm no longer able to log in to my account nor able to reset the password.

Accound id : Namelessone1973

Appreciate if someone could help me restore my account.

I've send mail to lowyat helpdesk but did not to get any reply.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 28 2024, 10:12 AM)
Ww2 ww1 also faked

Near 80 years

Not happen ww3???
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Strawman argument

Eyewitnesses, deaths, destructions, vidios, pictars everywhere for ww1, ww2 and all wars.

But moon landing? Lol
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 10:25 AM)
Strawman argument

Eyewitnesses, deaths, destructions, vidios, pictars everywhere for ww1, ww2 and all wars.

But moon landing? Lol
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 28 2024, 10:26 AM)
Malas to explain to flat earther
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Ad hominem now lol

So you cant prove man moon landing but just grasping at straws.


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U all bodo pandai tok cok jeeer

tapi tiada otakkk

Let look at the evident

Got any third party peer reviwed that has independently verified the rover location that can carry a man along with his spacesuit across the moooonn?

That is ur answer whistling.gif

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u think going there is like buying a flight ticket isit?

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u think going there is like buying a flight ticket isit?

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Cost shd be way cheaper now compared to 69 as tech advanced so why not? Use your brain!!
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 11:23 AM)
Dont be pembaris la. CGI is just a descriptor that the whole thing was faked. Arguing about CGI is strawmang fallacy.

Owai
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You got read my other points?

Those who said it was all just filmed in studio, do they know that back then it was cold war.

If US really didn't go there, do you think the Soviet Union will not make it the laughing stock of the world?

The fact is Soviet Union was tracking the Apollo rockets and they knew it landed on the moon.

That is why Soviet Union abandoned their moon landing program after 1969.

You guys really clueless about cold war kah?
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Cost shd be way cheaper now compared to 69 as tech advanced so why not? Use your brain!!
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You expect they rebuild the Apollo rockets and just use back all the equipments back in 1969 kah?

Use your brain lah!
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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Jun 28 2024, 10:30 AM)
U all bodo pandai tok cok jeeer

tapi tiada otakkk

Let look at the evident

Got any third party peer reviwed that has independently verified the rover location that can carry a man along with his spacesuit across the moooonn?

That is ur answer whistling.gif
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its 1969, nobody can be truested. just put some cash to you, you can even say anything is real. those people are too gullible...
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 10:35 AM)
Cost shd be way cheaper now compared to 69 as tech advanced so why not? Use your brain!!
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use ur brain la sei sohai

https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/03/19/h...-the-moon-cost/

go read how much it will cost
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:39 AM)
You got read my other points?

Those who said it was all just filmed in studio, do they know that back then it was cold war.

If US really didn't go there, do you think the Soviet Union will not make it the laughing stock of the world?

The fact is Soviet Union was tracking the Apollo rockets and they knew it landed on the moon.

That is why Soviet Union abandoned their moon landing program after 1969.

You guys really clueless about cold war kah?
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Cold war even more reason it is faked right? Shooting rocket towards the moon doesnt mean it landed with humans who walk2 there. And why russo didnt also land their men since it is cold war? Even more they should! But you say they abandon lol...makes no sense lol

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You expect they rebuild the Apollo rockets and just use back all the equipments back in 1969 kah?

Use your brain lah!
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kinda free now so indulging here.

what TS want is for USA to spend money to satisfy his curiosity in which at the end he will still say is fake.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:41 AM)
You expect they rebuild the Apollo rockets and just use back all the equipments back in 1969 kah?

Use your brain lah!
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2024 why must use 1969 parts?? Got improved tech and body parts right, shd be even better. You are unhinged loll
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:43 AM)
kinda free now so indulging here.

what TS want is for USA to spend money to satisfy his curiosity in which at the end he will still say is fake.
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Strawman argument

Point is now all coloured media, socmed, high tech...ppl can see for themselves now for themselves. If black n white tv can so called land on moon, why not do it again now? But instead can just send rover korek2 batoo

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2024 why must use 1969 parts?? Got improved tech and body parts right, shd be even better. You are unhinged loll
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So if you use todays tech, do you think it will still be cheap?

Also, you think going to space is like going to the mall kah.

Just go inside your car and drive there.

Every single thing need to be rebuilt from scratch and every measurements need to be precise.

Do you know how much Apollo program cost?

$25.8 billion back then.

If adjusted for inflation today, it will cost $257 billion.
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Elon Musk said something like our space technology from 60s is lost in todays generation due to technology stagnant for space exploration during the 90s. Just within 1 decade, we have devolve.


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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:50 AM)
So if you use todays tech, do you think it will still be cheap?

Also, you think going to space is like going to the mall kah.

Just go inside your car and drive there.

Every single thing need to be rebuilt from scratch and every measurements need to be precise.

Do you know how much Apollo program cost?

$25.8 billion back then.

If adjusted for inflation today, it will cost $257 billion.
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Cost is just some lame excuse lol. Can send humans to space station, just top up a bit la lol. Cost...lol
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Elon Musk said something like our space technology from 60s is lost in todays generation due to technology stagnant for space exploration during the 90s. Just within 1 decade, we have devolve.
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If elong the mad dreamer dont even dare tok abt the moon, you know it is not even real to begin with.
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they already sent robot there, cost is nonsense. just sent the robot to take videos of the equipments.

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 10:48 AM)
Strawman argument

Point is now all coloured media, socmed, high tech...ppl can see for themselves now for themselves. If black n white tv can so called land on moon, why not do it again now? But instead can just send rover korek2 batoo
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again do it for what?? so satisfy your curiosity? funny la u.

so we send men to moon for more selfie. things that can be done by rover and robot let them do la. less risk and does not cost much compared to sending human there. right now people send drone to do areal survey and 60 years down the road people will say no such thing, if not why not use human to do instead keep using drones.

iyo TS dunno how to reason with you la.

at the end your believe it that is fake.. I kinda respect that as how I respect flat earther
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of cos it is...
that time so powerfull can call to moon using landline je.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:59 AM)
again do it for what?? so satisfy your curiosity? funny la u.

so we send men to moon for more selfie. things that can be done by rover and robot let them do la. less risk and does not cost much compared to sending human there. right now people send drone to do areal survey and 60 years down the road people will say no such thing, if not why not use human to do instead keep using drones.

iyo TS dunno how to reason with you la.

at the end your believe it that is fake.. I kinda respect that as how I respect flat earther
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Again, it is not about me nor my curiosity. Question if kalau boleh dik, knp tak buat?? Simple as that.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 11:43 AM)
Cold war even more reason it is faked right? Shooting rocket towards the moon doesnt mean it landed with humans who walk2 there. And why russo didnt also land their men since it is cold war? Even more they should! But you say they abandon lol...makes no sense lol
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After US has landed, there's no incentive for Soviet Union to go there anymore.

Do you think they are stupid to spend billion just to be second nation to land people on the moon?

Do you know who won the 100m silver medal in Tokyo 1964 Olympics without google?

Going to the moon serve no real purpose back then but it was a space race between US and Soviet Union.

The whole space race is part of the cold war where both sides try to outdo each other in terms of tech.

After 1969, Soviet Union changed their space program to space stations and exploring the impact of humans living in space.

As for US, they were more interested in putting satelites all over the world for commercial purposes.

That is why they started the Space Shuttle program as a cheaper reusable vehicles.

Both US and Soviet Union were also more interested in exploring our solar system and that is why the space program especially NASA started to send probes.

Probes such as Voyager 1 and 2.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 10:56 AM)
If elong the mad dreamer dont even dare tok abt the moon, you know it is not even real to begin with.
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You calling elon mad dreamer is very laughable. Starbucki at /k = identity who gives a fcuk non existence in the grand scheme of things.....lol. He's looking at mars, not moon.

Nope, the moon landing is real. Just that after the 70s till late 2010s, we have devolve due to not actively researching and improving our space tech. Thus our space tech has devolve. Elon Musk clearly use this as an example on its very possible that our ancient humans might be technologically superior in certain areas but devolve due to many factors such as wars, disaster.

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 11:00 AM)
Again, it is not about me nor my curiosity. Question if kalau boleh dik, knp tak buat?? Simple as that.
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Cost is just some lame excuse lol. Can send humans to space station, just top up a bit la lol. Cost...lol
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Top up a bit? LOL!

Its like people say top up a bit and get a iPhone and not get Redmi.

You think going to space station is like going to the moon kah?


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You calling elon mad dreamer is very laughable. Starbucki at /k  = identity who gives a fcuk non existence in the grand scheme of things.....lol. He's looking at mars, not moon.

Nope, the moon landing is real. Just that after the 70s till late 2010s, we have devolve due to not actively researching and improving our space tech. Thus our space tech has devolve. Elon Musk clearly use this as an example on its very possible that our ancient humans might be technologically superior in certain areas but devolve due to many factors such as wars, disaster.
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its normal la. experience people die. documents were stored in paper form.. all donna go where already. probably in someones garage or makan by termite.

we have gone to the deepest part of the ocean. but fuck sake why need to keep doing it for no reasons. unless we want to make a new colony
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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This was during the peak of cold war. It was scrutinized by Soviet. If it was faked, Soviet wont keep quiet about it
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Cost is just some lame excuse lol. Can send humans to space station, just top up a bit la lol. Cost...lol
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Seems like you are absolutely clueless about the distance between earth to ISS and moon.
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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Jun 28 2024, 11:02 AM)
You calling elon mad dreamer is very laughable. Starbucki at /k  = identity who gives a fcuk non existence in the grand scheme of things.....lol. He's looking at mars, not moon.

Nope, the moon landing is real. Just that after the 70s till late 2010s, we have devolve due to not actively researching and improving our space tech. Thus our space tech has devolve. Elon Musk clearly use this as an example on its very possible that our ancient humans might be technologically superior in certain areas but devolve due to many factors such as wars, disaster.
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How to go Mars if he cant even get to the moon?
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 28 2024, 11:06 AM)
Seems like you are absolutely clueless about the distance between earth to ISS and moon.
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But got ktart saying want to go to Mars. Suddenly cost and distance not a concern pulak lol
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IF you can send robot there already , just your use robot to take a video of those instruments and then send it back to a neutral parties on earth to examine the video.
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You are NOT answering mu question ! LOL



All those instruments were sent to moon in APOLLO 11 mission, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission, only MOON LANDER that can't move around!


There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !

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Seems like you are absolutely clueless about the distance between earth to ISS and moon.
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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Jun 28 2024, 11:02 AM)
You calling elon mad dreamer is very laughable. Starbucki at /k  = identity who gives a fcuk non existence in the grand scheme of things.....lol. He's looking at mars, not moon.

Nope, the moon landing is real. Just that after the 70s till late 2010s, we have devolve due to not actively researching and improving our space tech. Thus our space tech has devolve. Elon Musk clearly use this as an example on its very possible that our ancient humans might be technologically superior in certain areas but devolve due to many factors such as wars, disaster.
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and neil amstrong also not dare to swear on the bible that its real lor when got challenged. If real sure very dare to swear what. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 11:09 AM)
But got ktart saying want to go to Mars. Suddenly cost and distance not a concern pulak lol
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Because it's a new frontier that's never been done before?
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You calling elon mad dreamer is very laughable. Starbucki at /k  = identity who gives a fcuk non existence in the grand scheme of things.....lol. He's looking at mars, not moon.

Nope, the moon landing is real. Just that after the 70s till late 2010s, we have devolve due to not actively researching and improving our space tech. Thus our space tech has devolve. Elon Musk clearly use this as an example on its very possible that our ancient humans might be technologically superior in certain areas but devolve due to many factors such as wars, disaster.
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I think the priority shifted after the Apollo program.

Soviet Union was more interested in space stations while US is more interested in putting satellites for commercial reasons.

At the end US won again as their commercialisation of satellites were much more lucrative biz.

Soviet Union ran out of money to really compete with US by the 80s and the US public lost interest in their space program after the Challenger space shuttle disaster.

NASA don't get the same budgets anymore as there were basically no more competitor.

So, NASA with smaller budgets started to concentrate on probes and robots to explore our solar system which is much cheaper.
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jun 28 2024, 11:06 AM)
This was during the peak of cold war. It was scrutinized by Soviet. If it was faked, Soviet wont keep quiet about it
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They cant review and certify something if they didnt get there, right? So just sit n watch lo. What else can they say, even if it is real or fake as they had no evidence?
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It's fake.

I don't know why people believe it
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:11 PM)
and neil amstrong also not dare to swear on the bible that its real lor when got challenged.  If real sure very dare to swear what.  laugh.gif
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Read this lah on why he did not swear on the bible.
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/...0work%20here%20.
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:10 AM)
All those instruments were sent to moon in APOLLO 11 mission, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission, only MOON LANDER that can't move around!
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You claimed humans can send rovers there already. If you can send things there already then don't talk about cost issue. Just send a robot there and take video of the instruments. Got what so hard?

Means cannot go there only is the only explanation. brows.gif



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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 12:09 PM)
But got ktart saying want to go to Mars. Suddenly cost and distance not a concern pulak lol
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You do know why US went to the moon, right?

It is the same reason today because of the space race with China.

If China sends a man mission to Mars first, it will mean US no more face to tell the world they are no.1 in tech.

It was the same reason why US beat the Soviet Union in tech after the Apollo program.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:14 PM)
You claimed humans can send rovers there already. If you can send things there already then don't talk about cost issue. Just send a robot there and take video of the instruments. Got what so hard?

Means cannot go there only is the only explanation.  brows.gif


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You are real stupid ! Why you still said IF ?

Which part I said can send rover ? I just said only US sent MOON LANDER and astronauts in APOLLO 11.

There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !

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TS, go watch 'The Why Files' channel on youtube. You'll love it.
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Even china lunar soils sample is fake... js for display haha

see why when they open the sample, the scientist also did not wear protective gear like mask...



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You do know why US went to the moon, right?

It is the same reason today because of the space race with China.

If China sends a man mission to Mars first, it will mean US no more face to tell the world they are no.1 in tech.

It was the same reason why US beat the Soviet Union in tech after the Apollo program.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 28 2024, 11:11 AM)
Because it's a new frontier that's never been done before?
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Then start by offering space tourism to the moon. If ppl are willing to pay to go down marina trench, into volcanoes, to space station, sure got ppl will go to moon. Pay only ma. Each chip in a few billion on liow. Start with that. Unless moon landing never really happened.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:17 AM)
You are real stupid ! Why you still said IF ?

There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
There are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER in APOLLO 11 mission ! , So only human can calibrate those instruments !
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If you not are stupid on earth, you already send robot there now and take photos lar. instead of doctor'ing photos.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:15 AM)
You do know why US went to the moon, right?

It is the same reason today because of the space race with China.

If China sends a man mission to Mars first, it will mean US no more face to tell the world they are no.1 in tech.

It was the same reason why US beat the Soviet Union in tech after the Apollo program.
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Weird logic you got there. If US send 3pax to moon, others shd want to send 30pax. But you are saying kecut telor is the legit response pulak loll. Cold war argument by you but kecut telor policy lmaoo

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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 28 2024, 12:12 PM)
It's fake.

I don't know why people believe it
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It's real.

I don't know why people don't believe it.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:19 PM)
If you not are stupid on earth, you already send robot there now and take photos lar. instead of doctor'ing photos.
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Just because you not believe and US have to send ROBOT now to moon to prove it ? LOL.

The fact is all those instruments were there and prove by other country such as CHINA, and those instrument only can calibrate by HUMAN, so this is solid prove !

Humans will not believe what they don't want to believe.

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 12:20 PM)
Weird logic you got there. If US send 3pax to moon, others shd want to send 30pax. But you are saying kecut telor is the legit response pulak loll. Cold war argument by you but kecut telor policy lmaoo
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You send 30pax there for what?

You tell me. Someone else already there first and you don't get any glory anymore.

No one cares about who gets second place.

The news is not newsworthy anymore.

They can't claim their tech is better than US anymore.

Like I say, they changed their space program to priorities space stations and they were very succesful with it.


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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:23 AM)
Just because you not believe and US have to send ROBOT now to moon to prove it ? LOL.

The fact is all those instruments were there and prove by other country such as CHINA, and those instrument only can calibrate by HUMAN, so this is solid prove !
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Plenty of video that you made the video at studio already. If you cannot show a simple things means you are lying lor.

Prove your head lar those lasers. Solid proof are eyewitnessess and video only you gullible!!
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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:09 PM)
even Putin said is fake haha


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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:17 AM)
Even china lunar soils sample is fake... js for display haha

see why when they open the sample, the scientist also did not wear protective gear like mask...


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The soil sample is still inside the container.
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:23 AM)
Just because you not believe and US have to send ROBOT now to moon to prove it ? LOL.

The fact is all those instruments were there and prove by other country such as CHINA, and those instrument only can calibrate by HUMAN, so this is solid prove !

Humans will not believe what they don't want to believe.
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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jun 28 2024, 10:59 AM)
see is fake!


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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:00 AM)
fake


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you are correct and paste this video on your room wall and watch it every day until your last breath !!

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:24 PM)
Plenty of video that you made the video at studio already. If you cannot show a simple things means you are lying lor.

Prove your head lar those lasers. Solid proof are eyewitnessess and video only you gullible!!
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Photos are not important already because CHINA already proved that those instruments were there and they used it !

CHINA lying ? LOL

Understand ? Moron !

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:24 PM)
Plenty of video that you made the video at studio already. If you cannot show a simple things means you are lying lor.

Prove your head lar those lasers. Solid proof are eyewitnessess and video only you gullible!!
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Plenty of videos? Videos from flat earthers and conspiracy nutcase got lah! LOL!


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have you sent any flat earth believer to the space station before and flying around the moon? or you worry they can see how the earth looks like?

Have you been to the space station?

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have you sent any flat earth believer to the space station before and flying around the moon? or you worry they can see how the earth looks like?

Have you been to the space station?
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So you're a flat earth believer? LOL!
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 28 2024, 12:30 PM)
have you sent any flat earth believer to the space station before and flying around the moon? or you worry they can see how the earth looks like?

Have you been to the space station?

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CHINA already proved that those instruments were there and they used it to measure the moon distance in year 2018, 2019 . . . !

CHINA lying ? LOL


Final question : Are you believe that those instruments/reflectors are still on the moon ? Just answer it ! Don't talk so much !

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Apollos 11, 14 and 15 left the Laser Ranging RetroReflectors (LRRR) — and they still work.




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Apollos 11, 14 and 15 left the Laser Ranging RetroReflectors (LRRR) — and they still work.




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and those reflectors already confirmed by CHINA !

Beside reflectors, there were also seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters placed on the moon during APOLLO 11 mission.

You can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it.

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 11:18 AM)
Then start by offering space tourism to the moon. If ppl are willing to pay to go down marina trench, into volcanoes, to space station, sure got ppl will go to moon. Pay only ma. Each chip in a few billion on liow. Start with that. Unless moon landing never really happened.
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the answer is simple, it's b'cos they can't! no one has ever been to the moon, b'cos you can't land on the moon! thr's no terra firma.

the moon is just a flat disk. 2D. not a 3D object. you gotta throw the heliocentric model out of your head doh.gif

another thing, the sun acts exactly like a sulfur lamp.

https://wildheretic.github.io/books

https://www.scribd.com/document/547652348/B...he-Wild-Heretic

we have been fed a lot of lies since young about 'space', 'universe', 'solar systems', 'the shape of the earth', spinning ball & all those other nonsense.


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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ Jun 28 2024, 09:26 AM)
thr is nothing to land on! it's not 3D. it's 2D. a flat disk facing downwards. thr's no outer space either. the moon & the sun r in our atmosphere. just a few thousand km above. & both are much, much smaller in size, than wat the books tell u. look at the moon whn thr's a full moon. do u think it's actually a few million km away?

we r not moving either. not hurtling through 'space' at thousands of miles/hour. dun believe wat ppl tell u. do u actually feel yourself moving?

look at the stupid space suits. seriously can protect the astronauts?
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no ppl question about drone landing by US. ppl questioning human landing.

all the moon landing done on 1 single presidency, all with few astronauts, brought back 380kg of soil for all the mission combined.

for comparison, china only manage to dig back 2kg of soil and probably that is the limit.

then what is the fuel needed to launch 3 astronauts, with a freaking moon rover? then what is the fuel needed again to launch 3 astronauts with average of 63kg soil from the moon.

Apollo mission used only 8 days, plus 1 day spent in the moon, so travelling only 7 days. u know chang er mission took how many days? 53 days with just drones that they can sacrifice.

how about the live streaming from earth to moon and asking questions live? how about the first time astronauts return back to earth and can walk and jump like normal after landed? they are not affected by lost of gravity?

how come china astronaut spend a day in the space already need someone carry him in a chair?

and how come US can do it in ease at the time integrated circuit just introduced, and now some 50 years later with much much more advanced tech, they cant replicate it?
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jun 28 2024, 03:56 PM)
no ppl question about drone landing by US. ppl questioning human landing.

all the moon landing done on 1 single presidency, all with few astronauts, brought back 380kg of soil for all the mission combined.

for comparison, china only manage to dig back 2kg of soil and probably that is the limit.

then what is the fuel needed to launch 3 astronauts, with a freaking moon rover? then what is the fuel needed again to launch 3 astronauts with average of 63kg soil from the moon.

Apollo mission used only 8 days, plus 1 day spent in the moon, so travelling only 7 days. u know chang er mission took how many days? 53 days with just drones that they can sacrifice.

how about the live streaming from earth to moon and asking questions live? how about the first time astronauts return back to earth and can walk and jump like normal after landed? they are not affected by lost of gravity?

how come china astronaut spend a day in the space already need someone carry him in a chair?

and how come US can do it in ease at the time integrated circuit just introduced, and now some 50 years later with much much more advanced tech, they cant replicate it?
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Damn weak this china.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jun 28 2024, 03:56 PM)
no ppl question about drone landing by US. ppl questioning human landing.

all the moon landing done on 1 single presidency, all with few astronauts, brought back 380kg of soil for all the mission combined.

for comparison, china only manage to dig back 2kg of soil and probably that is the limit.

then what is the fuel needed to launch 3 astronauts, with a freaking moon rover? then what is the fuel needed again to launch 3 astronauts with average of 63kg soil from the moon.

Apollo mission used only 8 days, plus 1 day spent in the moon, so travelling only 7 days. u know chang er mission took how many days? 53 days with just drones that they can sacrifice.

how about the live streaming from earth to moon and asking questions live? how about the first time astronauts return back to earth and can walk and jump like normal after landed? they are not affected by lost of gravity?

how come china astronaut spend a day in the space already need someone carry him in a chair?

and how come US can do it in ease at the time integrated circuit just introduced, and now some 50 years later with much much more advanced tech, they cant replicate it?
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The answer is in your questions. It was fu**ing expensive to do it. That's why they stopped doing it. can and will be done again, but still bloody expensive and very low returns.
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QUOTE(PATAR @ Jun 28 2024, 04:12 PM)
The answer is in your questions. It was fu**ing expensive to do it. That's why they stopped doing it. can and will be done again, but still bloody expensive and very low returns.
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Actually, money cannot overcome physics and biology. Saturn V rocket with a lower Max Thrust compared to the Falcon Heavy used now by Elon, can somehow carry heavier stuff higher and faster?

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Actually, money cannot overcome physics and biology. Saturn V rocket with a lower Max Thrust compared to the Falcon Heavy used now by Elon, can somehow carry heavier stuff higher and faster?

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https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/06/technology...ison/index.html

Saturn V
Height: 363 feet (111 meters)
Liftoff thrust: 7.6 million pounds
Capability: 260,000 pounds (118,000 kilograms) to LEO
Payloads: Apollo spacecraft and astronauts, Skylab

Falcon Heavy
Height: 229.6 feet (70 meters)
Liftoff thrust: 5 million pounds
Capability: 140,660 pounds (63,800 kilograms) to LEO
Planned payloads: One Tesla (dummy payload), satellites, cargo, astronauts, tourists

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jun 28 2024, 03:56 PM)
no ppl question about drone landing by US. ppl questioning human landing.

all the moon landing done on 1 single presidency, all with few astronauts, brought back 380kg of soil for all the mission combined.

for comparison, china only manage to dig back 2kg of soil and probably that is the limit.

then what is the fuel needed to launch 3 astronauts, with a freaking moon rover? then what is the fuel needed again to launch 3 astronauts with average of 63kg soil from the moon.

Apollo mission used only 8 days, plus 1 day spent in the moon, so travelling only 7 days. u know chang er mission took how many days? 53 days with just drones that they can sacrifice.

how about the live streaming from earth to moon and asking questions live? how about the first time astronauts return back to earth and can walk and jump like normal after landed? they are not affected by lost of gravity?

how come china astronaut spend a day in the space already need someone carry him in a chair?

and how come US can do it in ease at the time integrated circuit just introduced, and now some 50 years later with much much more advanced tech, they cant replicate it?
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Yes. But sohems here will just debunk you by saying you are a flat earther, gomen no money, and no reason at all to revisit the moon.
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Said what you want, the result show many ppl believes the moon landing is fake, except you i guess kakaka...

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you are correct and paste this video on your room wall and watch it every day until your last breath !!
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LOL! Who says moon has no gravity?
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jun 28 2024, 04:56 PM)
no ppl question about drone landing by US. ppl questioning human landing.

all the moon landing done on 1 single presidency, all with few astronauts, brought back 380kg of soil for all the mission combined.

for comparison, china only manage to dig back 2kg of soil and probably that is the limit.

then what is the fuel needed to launch 3 astronauts, with a freaking moon rover? then what is the fuel needed again to launch 3 astronauts with average of 63kg soil from the moon.

Apollo mission used only 8 days, plus 1 day spent in the moon, so travelling only 7 days. u know chang er mission took how many days? 53 days with just drones that they can sacrifice.

how about the live streaming from earth to moon and asking questions live? how about the first time astronauts return back to earth and can walk and jump like normal after landed? they are not affected by lost of gravity?

how come china astronaut spend a day in the space already need someone carry him in a chair?

and how come US can do it in ease at the time integrated circuit just introduced, and now some 50 years later with much much more advanced tech, they cant replicate it?
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You do know that is was not just one landing on the moon, right?

China send a probe. Its smaller and its capacity to dig is of course less than humans.

China's mission is to probe. A robot can of course work longer than a human and thats why its mission last much longer.

Humans need food, shelter, sleep, etc. They can't last too long on the moon without all those things.

Like you say, the mission to moon only 8 days. The effect of space is nof that bad. China's astronaut lived on their space station for 6 months. Of course the effect of gravity on them are much more worse.

Also, the astronauts who went to the moon was quarantined for 21 days. After quarantine, of course they can walk properly.



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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 28 2024, 05:11 PM)
You do know that is was not just one landing on the moon, right?

China send a probe. Its smaller and its capacity to dig is of course less than humans.

China's mission is to probe. A robot can of course work longer than a human and thats why its mission last much longer.

Humans need food, shelter, sleep, etc. They can't last too long on the moon without all those things.

Like you say, the mission to moon only 8 days. The effect of space is nof that bad. China's astronaut lived on their space station for 6 months. Of course the effect of gravity on them are much more worse.

Also, the astronauts who went to the moon was quarantined for 21 days. After quarantine, of course they can walk properly.
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actually very simple, US just need to send astronaut again to the moon or even mars if they are capable, then all will quiet down.

u have so much tech with u now US, come on do something.

money not enough just print.

if china build a base there then u are too late.

i will accept it is US work even if spacex manage to do human moon landing again, or boeing. doesnt matter is nasa or not

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jun 28 2024, 05:20 PM)
actually very simple, US just need to send astronaut again to the moon or even mars if they are capable, then all will quiet down.

u have so much tech with u now US, come on do something.

money not enough just print.

if china build a base there then u are too late.

i will accept it is US work even if spacex manage to do human moon landing again, or boeing. doesnt matter is nasa or not
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slow2 wait. until your last breath also they wont dare to show the video of earth from the moon or able to land there again. Cost is just a silly excuse.
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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ Jun 28 2024, 02:37 PM)
the answer is simple, it's b'cos they can't!  no one has ever been to the moon, b'cos you can't land on the moon! thr's no terra firma.

the moon is just a flat disk. 2D. not a 3D object. you gotta throw the heliocentric model out of your head  doh.gif 

another thing, the sun acts exactly like a sulfur lamp.

https://wildheretic.github.io/books

https://www.scribd.com/document/547652348/B...he-Wild-Heretic

we have been fed a lot of lies since young about 'space', 'universe', 'solar systems', 'the shape of the earth', spinning ball & all those other nonsense.
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No one been to the moon ? Read carefully below !

The various instruments left on the moon at that time could only be completed by human astronauts. For example, the laser reflectors placed on the moon at that time can still be found. There were also seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters placed on the moon at that time.

These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it.

We know that all those instruments are still there and confirmed by other countries, for example CHINA team have use the laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !


Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !


Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !


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1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !


Unless you NOT agree that all those instruments still on moon !
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1) No, I do not agree. Those fotos are fake. They're all taken on a location somewhr on earth. & yes, CHINA r lying. & so r NASA.

2) connect apa lj cables??!! all these electronics will get fried !!

what did u learn about outer space, assuming wat u were taught in the first place, is actually even true?!

words like 'vacuum', ' high temperature', 'radio waves', "cosmic radiation', 'moving at great speeds', 'Van Allen belt', etc.

so easy har, to land on the fucking moon? just some booster rockets & funny looking taped together suit, with an oksigen tank & a cool looking visor made of silica, & u r good to go?

let me tell u another thing, the ceramic tiles at the nose cone of these so-called farkin space shuttles are not to withstand heat during re-entry. thr's actually a barrier of ice 100 km above our heads. if anything punches through it, whtr it is the bits of burnt up filament ejected from the sun(sulfur lamp), frm the other side, or from objects like 'space shuttles' & 'satellites' frm this side of earth, it refreezes & seals up the hole by itself after awhile.

the temperature will take care of that. Tat is why, thr is a drastic drop in temperature after the 100km mark. It's not a gradual decline in temps. u can call it the ionosphere or watever u were taught, doesn't matter.

Also, those fuckin NASA rockets are for show on TV, to BS naive assholes like u. They disappear from your line of sight within minutes & fall back into the ocean in the distance.

Satellites orbiting the earth? really?! Those 'geosynchronous satellites' are not floating in space 20000 km above! They're parked on top of the ice sheet, which is only 100km above us, sitting thr stationary, only moving along, while the ice layer slowly shifts a few feet every few hours. Soon, after weeks, they'll fall back to earth after their weight, slowly melts through the thin layer.

All images of satellites & planets are CGI. Yes, even the fuckin 24 hour feed from the ISS is re-looped.


e.g. Cable TV? TV dish? Can u even get any signal when it rains? And we're actually talking about something down here, within short distances.

e.g. Cell phones? We still require communication towers every few km in order to get them to even function properly!

Satelite fons? Try getting a signal in the middle of the farkin ocean!

Everything requires infrastructure laid down here, in order even get a chance to work properly.

And a fuckin moron like u thinks that a spaceman can communicate with earth frm the moon? doh.gif

Like I mentioned, the moon is 2D. Imagine a circular flat plate. NOT 3D like a ball. Thrfore, you can't land on the fuckin moon!

How high can airplanes fly? A mere 10 km above. Military jets? maybe a little higher. & how deep has man ever drilled? Less than 10 miles down.

Face the fact, humans have never gone anywhere! We're stuck here!


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1)   No, I do not agree. Those fotos are fake. They're all taken on a location somewhr on earth. & yes, CHINA r lying. & so r NASA.

2)  connect apa lj cables??!!  all these electronics will get fried !!

what did u learn about outer space, assuming wat u were taught in the first place, is actually even true?!  

words like 'vacuum', ' high temperature', 'radio waves', "cosmic radiation', 'moving at great speeds', 'Van Allen belt', etc.

so easy har, to land on the fucking moon?   just some booster rockets & funny looking taped together suit, with an oksigen tank & a cool looking visor made of silica, & u r good to go?

let me tell u another thing, the ceramic tiles at the nose cone of these so-called farkin space shuttles are not to withstand heat during re-entry. thr's actually a barrier of ice 100 km above our heads. if anything punches through it, whtr it is the bits of burnt up filament ejected from the sun(sulfur lamp), frm the other side, or from objects like 'space shuttles' & 'satellites' frm this side of earth, it refreezes & seals up the hole by itself after awhile.

the temperature will take care of that. Tat is why, thr is a drastic drop in temperature after the 100km mark. It's not a gradual decline in temps. u can call it the ionosphere or watever u were taught, doesn't matter. 

Also, those fuckin NASA rockets are for show on TV, to BS naive assholes like u. They disappear from your line of sight within minutes & fall back into the ocean in the distance. 

Satellites orbiting the earth?  really?!  Those 'geosynchronous satellites' are not floating in space 20000 km above! They're parked on top of the ice sheet, which is only 100km above us, sitting thr stationary, only moving along, while the ice layer slowly shifts a few feet every few hours. Soon, after weeks, they'll fall back to earth after their weight, slowly melts through the thin layer.

All images of satellites & planets are CGI. Yes, even the fuckin 24 hour feed from the ISS is re-looped. 
e.g. Cable TV? TV dish? Can u even get any signal when it rains? And we're actually talking about something down here, within short distances.   

e.g. Cell phones? We still require communication towers every few km in order to get them to even function properly!  

Satelite fons?  Try getting a signal in the middle of the farkin ocean!

Everything requires infrastructure laid down here, in order even get a chance to work properly. 

And a fuckin moron like u thinks that a spaceman can communicate with earth frm the moon? doh.gif

Like I mentioned, the moon is 2D. Imagine a circular flat plate.  NOT 3D like a ball. Thrfore, you can't land on the fuckin moon!

How high can airplanes fly?  A mere 10 km above. Military jets? maybe a little higher.  & how deep has man ever drilled? Less than 10 miles down.  

Face the fact, humans have never gone anywhere! We're stuck here!
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You said CHINA r lying. But CHINA team already confirmed those instruments used it to measure the moon distance from the earth ! So CHINA help NASA to cheat ?

https://www.nsfc.gov.cn/publish/portal0/tab446/info77945.htm

I thought CHINA always want to expose NASA lies ? doh.gif

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If fake also not because of CGI, 1900s CGI where got so good, probably flim it somewhere else.

But don't think is fake la, don't think Us so stupid trying to fool the world, sooner or later people also will reach the moon and kantoi US.
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If fake also not because of CGI, 1900s CGI where got so good, probably flim it somewhere else.

But don't think is fake la,  don't think Us so stupid trying to fool the world, sooner or later people also will reach the moon and kantoi US.
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Various instruments(laser reflector, seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters) left on the moon and confirmed by other countries(CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !). These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it.


Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !

If NASA cheat then CHINA sure will expose right ? or CHINA help NASA to cheat the whole world ? LOL

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 08:47 AM)
Various instruments(laser reflector, seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters) left on the moon and confirmed by other countries(CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !). These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it.
Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !
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Batteries wont run out since 69?? Or got build power plant there liow??
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Batteries wont run out since 69?? Or got build power plant there liow??
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In year 2018, 2019, CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !

It does not matter the battery or solar panel run out or not, as long as CHINA proved that it exist !

UNLESS YOU SAY CHINA HELP NASA TO CHEAT ! LOL

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 08:51 AM)
In year 2018, 2019, CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !

It does not matter the battery or solar panel run out or not, as long as CHINA proved that it exist !

UNLESS YOU SAY CHINA HELP NASA TO CHEAT ! LOL
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I believe yes the landings were real. But I think they shot alot of promotional staged shots. Some during simulation and I think some as backup in case Neil Armstrong and gang died otw up

Some of those shots entered into public domain and got descredited hence fueling the moon landing as a hoax theory.

If it was fake and given the current climate we will know soon enough. Cos China for sure will debunk
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Just answer the question la sohem.
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I ask you first, you should answer my two question first la !

Never mind, I answer your question, the battery/solar panel should still work until year 2019 because in year 2019 CHINA team used this reflector to measure the moon distance.

So your turn to answer my two questions !

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 09:47 AM)
Various instruments(laser reflector, seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters) left on the moon and confirmed by other countries(CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !). These instruments require complex wiring. Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a seismometer, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it.
Ask yourself :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move !

If NASA cheat then CHINA sure will expose right ? or CHINA help NASA to cheat the whole world ? LOL
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Dunno what you say, I bodo jer dunno engineering, rocket science.

But what you said is true, china would've exposed them the moment they sent their rover to the moon. I don't think manned moon landing is fake.
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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Jun 29 2024, 10:04 AM)
Dunno what you say, I bodo jer dunno engineering, rocket science.

But what you said is true, china would've exposed them the moment they sent their rover to the moon. I don't think manned moon landing is fake.
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What so difficult ? CHINA(NASA enemy) proved that all those instruments still on the moon, and those instruments ONLY can be installed and calibrated by HUMAN during that time.

During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move around !

So this proved that USA sent HUMAN to moon is real ! LOL

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Can go pits of the ocean and get pulverised, but cannot risk going to the moon?? Fishy!!
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Just answer the question la sohem.
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If I am not mistaken, the laser reflector on the moon doesn't need any power to run. It is just a array of prisms, like a complex mirrors, to reflect light.

Anybody on earth with enough power laser could shot a laser beam on that reflector and would get a reflection back from the moon.
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If I am not mistaken, the laser reflector on the moon doesn't need any power to run. It is just a array of prisms, like a complex mirrors, to reflect light.

Anybody on earth with enough power laser could shot a laser beam on that reflector and would get a reflection back from the moon.
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Various instruments(laser reflector, seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters) left on the moon and confirmed by other countries(CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !).

Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a laser reflector, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, turn the direction to face earth, tilt the reflector angle and calibrate it.

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James8899 for heaven's sake, don't be so god damn stupid!!

ur science books say, (if it's indeed true) the moon is 384,400 km away!!!

nobody, absofuckinlutely nobody, has ever been to the moon!!! ok??!! maybe in your dreams!! & even thr, i doubt it!!
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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ Jun 29 2024, 08:37 AM)
If fake also not because of CGI, 1900s CGI where got so good, probably flim it somewhere else.

But don't think is fake la,  don't think Us so stupid trying to fool the world, sooner or later people also will reach the moon and kantoi US.
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with today's filming technology, definitely can record the whole journey from A to Z of how you land the rover on moon and able to travel back to earth but none is being shown.

Kantoi so what if ww3 happens, then everything will restart.

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 09:15 AM)
Various instruments(laser reflector, seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters) left on the moon and confirmed by other countries(CHINA team have use these laser reflector on moon to measure the distance between moon and earth !).

Under the conditions of that time, you can only complete them manually by humans. For example, to place a laser reflector, you need to place it accurately in the designated position, manually connect the cables, turn the direction to face earth, tilt the reflector angle and calibrate it.
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What powers the cables since 69? Solar? Wind?
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in ancient time, they can make pyramid so high , now we forget how to do
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to date: no one has a clear absolute valid explanation


as for the moon landing
there's a moonwatch to commemorate the occasion, so it must be real

70% care if it's true or fake
the rest it's business as usual


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What powers the cables since 69? Solar? Wind?
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Answer my two questions la, sohem.

Your teacher not teach u meh ?
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Answer my two questions la, sohem.

Your teacher not teach u meh ?
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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ Jun 29 2024, 10:49 AM)
James8899 for heaven's sake, don't be so god damn stupid!!

ur science books say, (if it's indeed true) the moon is 384,400 km away!!!

nobody, absofuckinlutely nobody, has ever been to the moon!!! ok??!!  maybe in your dreams!! & even thr, i doubt it!!
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You mean CHINA, USA, RUSSAI . . .all cheating right ?

Then fine, please don't wake up and keep dreaming . . . .whole world is cheating !

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All i see from you is chyna chyna chyna. Nak tanya soalan pon tanya betul2 la. Potpet3 mcm lahnat.
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hahaha . . . .not dare to answer my questions and only know change the subject ! LOL

Still the same questions :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move around !



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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 10:52 AM)
hahaha . . . .not dare to answer my questions and only know change the subject ! LOL

Still the same questions :-

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ? You may argue those photos are fake but CHINA already confirmed those instruments, CHINA lying ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ? During APOLLO 11, there are no ROBOT and MOON ROVER, only MOON LANDER that can't move around !
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Why so much name dropping of countries and equipment? They tell me nothing. You cannot use your own brain?
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 11:54 AM)
Why so much name dropping of countries and equipment? They tell me nothing. You cannot use your own brain?
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It your turn to answer my questions, don't  change the subject !
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I dont answer stupid questions
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Because you not dare to answer the questions, not you don't want ! MORON sohem !

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 10:58 AM)
Because you don't know, not you don't want ! MORON sohem !

1) Are you agree that all those instruments still on moon ?

2) Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?
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You are a special breed of stupid lol, but ok since it bothers you so much:

1. That is what we are all trying to find out.

2. No purpose putting shit there that has no power source. Since 69, perfectly powered, perfectly auto calibrated, no nid maintenance by hoomans? If yes i aso want this shit lol

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 12:05 PM)
You are a special breed of stupid lol, but ok since it bothers you so much:

1. That is what we are all trying to find out.

2. No purpose putting shit there that has no power source.
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1) CHINA team already proved those instruments still on the moon in year 2019! They used the reflector to measure the moon distance.

2) Instrument like seismometer, the power source is sunlight/solar panel/battery !


auto calibrated? Hahaha . . . .

how to put those instruments on moon surface after moon lander touch down ? NO ROBOT and NO MOON ROVER in APPOLO 11 !

calibration and adjust the surface angle and direction of reflector can only be done on site AFTER installation ! You try to cheat yourself ! MORON sohem !

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 11:09 AM)
1) CHINA team already proved those instruments still on the moon in year 2019! They used the reflector to measure the moon distance.

2) Instrument like seismometer, the power source is sunlight/solar panel/battery !
auto calibratedb? Hahaha . . . .

how to put those instruments on moon surface after moon lander touch down ? NO ROBOT and NO MOON ROVER in APPOLO 11 !

calibration and adjust the surface angle and direction of reflector can only be done on site AFTER installation ! You try to cheat yourself ! MORON sohem !
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Rover can put mirror there la, no nid hooman.
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Rover can put mirror there la, no nid hooman.
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NO ROBOT and NO MOON ROVER in APPOLO 11 ! LOL !

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NO ROBOT and NO MOON ROVER in APPOLO 11 ! LOL !
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Then fake

69 tech that US put there which chyna still uses in 2024? Kejap cold war, kejap share2 like buddies. Make up ur mind. Hhhhhhhhh

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Only bodo believe its real.
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Then fake
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Then fake ? what is your stupid logic ?

When no ROVER, means must be someone transfer those instruments from MOON LANDER to moon surface, then transfer to designated location, install it, adjust the direction, and calibrate it !

So who can do that ? HUMAN HUMAN HUMAN ! LOL

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 12:23 PM)
Then fake

69 tech that US put there which chyna still uses in 2024? Kejap cold war, kejap share2 like buddies. Make up ur mind. Hhhhhhhhh
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YOU mean china used reflector on moon to measure moon distance in 2019 is fake ? LOL !

https://www.nsfc.gov.cn/publish/portal0/tab446/info77945.htm

NASA is CHINA enemy, why china want to help NASA prove the instruments still there ? so must be real la ! LOL !

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 11:30 AM)
YOU mean china used reflector on moon to measure moon distance in 2019 is fake ? LOL !

https://www.nsfc.gov.cn/publish/portal0/tab446/info77945.htm

NASA is CHINA enemy, why china want to help NASA prove the instruments still there ? so must be real la ! LOL !
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So many replies from u but balik2 this 1 pager article and claim everything must be true. Sohem lol

Loll
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QUOTE(t3n @ Jun 29 2024, 11:26 AM)
Only bodo believe its real.
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Like the sohem above lol
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 12:44 PM)
Like the sohem above lol
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Like sohem like you, just empty talk without prove ! LOL !



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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 12:43 PM)
So many replies from u but balik2 this 1 pager article and claim everything must be true. Sohem lol

Loll
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So who place those instruments from MOON LANDER to moon surface, then transfer to designated location, install it, adjust the direction, and calibrate it ????
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moon base already built there for decades, just we don't know only.
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:01 PM)
Like sohem like you, just empty talk without prove ! LOL !
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:02 PM)
So who place those instruments from MOON LANDER to moon surface, then transfer to designated location, install it, adjust the direction, and calibrate it ????
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69 till now, no need hooman to manually calibrate? No need to adjust2 the settings manually on the moon?? No wear n tear?? I want that tech too where to buy??

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i think its real. because if not real so fast will kantoi by their space race rival russia
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 01:16 PM)
No proof is right!
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LOL, such a moron ! lol.gif
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QUOTE(darosha @ Jun 29 2024, 12:19 PM)
i think its real. because if not real so fast will kantoi by their space race rival russia
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Cannot kantoi because they never landed b4.
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 10:51 AM)
You mean CHINA, USA, RUSSAI . . .all cheating right ?

Then fine, please don't wake up and keep dreaming . . .  .whole world is cheating !
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Do you know how much propulsion is needed, to get to the fuckin moon, given the distance?!! Answer me!!

How much liquid nitrogen? How many thousands of tons? How much fuel is needed for the return trip?

And then for docking again with the main shuttle, after leaving the moon's surface?

Hello, Saturn V's 3 stage rocket was only 3000 tons! Clearly not enough!

Also, the vacuum in outer space will crumple the space suit almost immediately!

Hey man, you don't know math! You don't know physics! Thrfore, you kena bluff so easily! doh.gif

Thr's no fuckin way man can ever make it to the moon even now!! And definitely NOT, back in the 60's !

This is my final exchange with you. You're a moron.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 01:18 PM)
69 till now, no need hooman to manually calibrate? No need to adjust2 the settings manually on the moon?? No wear n tear?? I want that tech too where to buy??
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Should be still working, because CHINA team still can used it in 2019 to measure moon distance ? NASA is CHINA enemy, no reason CHINA lying right ?
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:22 PM)
Should be still working, because CHINA team still can used it in 2019 to measure moon distance ? NASA is CHINA enemy, no reason CHINA lying right ?
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So enemies can use each others' instruments like buddies? Strong stuff ur on lol.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 01:23 PM)
So enemies can use each others' instruments like buddies? Strong stuff ur on lol.
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The instrument is there, you can't off the reflector, how to stop china to use it ?

The CHINA used it to measure moon distance is fact, china lying ?
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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:25 PM)
The instrument is there, you can't off the reflector, how to stop china to use it ?

The CHINA used it to measure moon distance is fact, china lying ?
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Put mirror there rover also can la. No need hooman. Evidence konon loll.
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QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ Jun 29 2024, 01:20 PM)
Do you know how much propulsion is needed, to get to the fuckin moon, given the distance?!! Answer me!!

How much liquid nitrogen?  How many thousands of tons? How much fuel is needed for the return trip?

And then for docking again with the main shuttle, after leaving the moon's surface?

Hello, Saturn V's 3 stage rocket was only 3000 tons! Clearly not enough!

Also, the vacuum in outer space will crumple the space suit almost immediately!

Hey man, you don't know math! You don't know physics! Thrfore, you kena bluff so easily!  doh.gif

Thr's no fuckin way man can ever make it to the moon even now!! And definitely NOT, back in the 60's !

This is my final exchange with you. You're a moron.
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Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

You are moron ! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 01:28 PM)
Put mirror there rover also can la. No need hooman. Evidence konon loll.
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Real sohem, how to put mirror when there is NO ROVER in APPOLO 11 ? Only human and MOON LANDER, go and read la !

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:28 PM)
Who place all those instruments precisely in the designated position, manually connect the cables, and calibrate it ?

You are moron !  rclxm9.gif
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No instrument can last since 69 lah

Laptop 5 yrs also rusak. Space tech can last so long mou. Loll
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 01:32 PM)
No instrument can last since 69 lah

Laptop 5 yrs also rusak. Space tech can last so long mou. Loll
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But china used the reflector in year 2019, china lying ?

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:33 PM)
But china used the reflector in year 2019, china lying ?
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Also, the vacuum in outer space will crumple the space suit almost immediately!

Hey man, you don't know math! You don't know physics! Thrfore, you kena bluff so easily!  doh.gif

Thr's no fuckin way man can ever make it to the moon even now!! And definitely NOT, back in the 60's !

This is my final exchange with you. You're a moron.
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Hi mr sohai who used so much expletives.. you know that many astronauts from various countries have done space walks on the space station right? Are all these countries lying? How come you so stupid one ah?
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 02:01 PM)
Use your own brain la sohem
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china used the reflector in year 2019, china lying ?

Answer my question, CHINA LYING ? You are real sohem !

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http://apolloreality.atspace.co.uk/

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 01:09 PM)
china used the reflector in year 2019, china lying ?

Answer my question, CHINA LYING ? You are real sohem !
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Why keep chyna chyna chyna? And only 1 chyna article you can show after pages of nonsense from you?

Just show me a piece of sensitive equipment that you can use from 69, placed in outer space subjected to all the harsh elements, no power supply, no need hooman maintenance, using 69 communication tech, that you can still use after 60 years lah. Then we continue. Otherwise, stop spamming chyna chyna chyna.
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They went, they found the Decepticon ship and salvaged the shit out of it. Then they stopped going. This is extensively recorded in the documentary Revenge of the Fallen.
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50 years has passed, still there are people out there that believe the hoax that the moon landing is fake.
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50 years has passed, still there are people out there that believe the hoax that the moon landing is fake.
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I think it's cause some people want to think they are smarter than others but actually they are just displaying their stupidity for everyone to see.
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I think it's cause some people want to think they are smarter than others but actually they are just displaying their stupidity for everyone to see.
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Science is about repeatability. Why wasnt the human moon landing repeated? Until then, it remains a hypothesis.
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Science is about repeatability. Why wasnt the human moon landing repeated? Until then, it remains a hypothesis.
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Because they don't need to prove anything to stupid conspiracy theorists. There's already scientific consensus about the moon landing. But if you have billions of dollars to donate to NASA I'm sure they will be willing to do it for you.
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QUOTE(k_yagami @ Jun 29 2024, 01:23 PM)
50 years has passed, still there are people out there that believe the hoax that the moon landing is fake.
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You dun CB.
The earth is flat that's why Boeing unable to navigate properly.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 02:16 PM)
Why keep chyna chyna chyna? And only 1 chyna article you can show after pages of nonsense from you?

Just show me a piece of sensitive equipment that you can use from 69, placed in outer space subjected to all the harsh elements, no power supply, no need hooman maintenance, using 69 communication tech, that you can still use after 60 years lah. Then we continue. Otherwise, stop spamming chyna chyna chyna.
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Sohem, when china used the reflector in 2019, it is solid proof that the instrument still working la ! otherwise, how china measure it ? SOHEm !

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 01:28 PM)
Science is about repeatability. Why wasnt the human moon landing repeated? Until then, it remains a hypothesis.
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The human moon landing, specifically the Apollo 11 mission in 1969, remains a significant achievement in human history. However, there are a few reasons why we haven’t repeated it:

1. Lack of Funding and Interest: After the Apollo 17 mission in 1972, public interest in manned moon missions waned. The major oil crisis during that time led to questions about diverting funds and effort away from space exploration.
2. Declining Public Support: Public support for expensive human space exploration programs declined, especially due to the Vietnam War, urban problems, and environmental concerns.
3. Political Factors: The absence of manned moon missions isn’t due to technological limitations but rather political decisions. Budget allocations and priorities play a significant role in determining space exploration efforts.
4. Conspiracy Theories: Some people persistently deny the moon landings, fueled by conspiracy theories. These theories have origins in books like “We Never Went to the Moon: America’s Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle” published in 1976.

In summary, a combination of financial constraints, shifting priorities, and skepticism has kept us from returning to the moon in over 50 years. 🌕🚀

There you go, I got AI answered the question for you.

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 01:31 PM)
Sohem, when china used the reflector in 2019, it is solid proof that the instrument still working la ! otherwise, how china measure it ? SOHEm !
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Sure it is working if it is put there by Chang'er. But something that US put in 69 for chyna to use in 19?? Lolll
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Sure it is working if it is put there by Chang'er. But something that US put in 69 for chyna to use in 19?? Lolll
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sohem, chang'er where got put reflector ? In 2019, china team said they used reflectors from US la ! sohem

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QUOTE(k_yagami @ Jun 29 2024, 01:31 PM)
The human moon landing, specifically the Apollo 11 mission in 1969, remains a significant achievement in human history. However, there are a few reasons why we haven’t repeated it:

1. Lack of Funding and Interest: After the Apollo 17 mission in 1972, public interest in manned moon missions waned. The major oil crisis during that time led to questions about diverting funds and effort away from space exploration.
2. Declining Public Support: Public support for expensive human space exploration programs declined, especially due to the Vietnam War, urban problems, and environmental concerns.
3. Political Factors: The absence of manned moon missions isn’t due to technological limitations but rather political decisions. Budget allocations and priorities play a significant role in determining space exploration efforts.
4. Conspiracy Theories: Some people persistently deny the moon landings, fueled by conspiracy theories. These theories have origins in books like “We Never Went to the Moon: America’s Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle” published in 1976.

In summary, a combination of financial constraints, shifting priorities, and skepticism has kept us from returning to the moon in over 50 years. 🌕🚀

There you go, I got AI answered the question for you.
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You think elong mask and rickard bransong wudnt wana go to the moon? Then make it moon tourism. Instead nobody even talks about it lol

Edit - funny that instead of proving skeptiks wrong, they play along with it and say okeyyy lol. Must be a relief to not need to go to the moon again by agreeing with the skeptiks.

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 01:36 PM)
sohem, so chang'er where got put reflector ? In 2019, china team said they used reflectors from US  la ! sohem
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So US and chyna are buddies now can pinjem2 instruments? And 60 years the instruments still work? No need to wipe the dust off the reflectors? Lolllllll
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So US and chyna are buddies now can pinjem2 instruments? And 60 years the instruments still work? No need to wipe the dust off the reflectors? Lolllllll
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hahaha....so you admit the reflector is there !

The reflector cannot off/on, so CHINA can use it any time la if china have the technology !


If there are no reflector, china sure expose already, because NASA is their enemy !

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hahaha....so you admit the reflector is there !

The reflector cannot off/on, so CHINA can use it any time la if china have the technology !
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Moon got so much dust, no need hooman to wipe the dust off?

Deswai need to use brain. Owait you got none..lolll
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 02:43 PM)
Moon got so much dust, no need hooman to wipe the dust off?

Deswai need to use brain. Owait you got none..lolll
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Then why CHINA can used it in 2019 ? Moon where got dust ? No wind, no air in moon la . . . .you are real sohem !

So the reflector is still working !

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 01:44 PM)
Then why CHINA can used it in 2019 ? So the reflector is still working !
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 02:45 PM)
If you insist. Not here to cure you from stupidity foc.
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Moon where got dust above surface ? No wind, no air in moon la . . . .you are real sohem , who stupid ? LOL

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Moon where got dust above surface ? No wind, no air in moon la . . . .you are real sohem , who stupid ? LOL
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Reflectors dont need hooman presence. So your point is still sohem.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 02:52 PM)
Reflectors dont need hooman presence. So your point is still sohem.
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haha . . .now at least you admit got reflectors liao . . .


How the reflector move from MOON LANDER to surface and transfer to designated location?
how to adjust the reflector angle and direction to face earth ?
How to calibrate it ? remember the calibration only can be done AFTER installation oh ! LOL

How about more complex instrument like seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters ?

Only human can do it, LOL !

Since you are old already, there are NO MOON ROVER and ROBOT in APOLLO 11 mission !

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 01:57 PM)
haha . .  .now at least you admit got reflectors liao . . .
How the reflector move from MOON LANDER to surface and transfer to designated location?
how to adjust the reflector angle and direction to face earth ?
How to calibrate it ?

Only human can do it,  LOL !

Since you are old already, there are NO MOON ROVER and ROBOT in APOLLO 11 mission !
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How old are you? Tok like kid. Too old to play this admit2, who say wad game lah

Now sila berambus lol


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How old are you? Tok like kid. Too old to play this admit2, who say wad game lah

Now sila berambus lol
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Can't argue anymore and change subject, real old sohem berambus la !

How the reflector move from MOON LANDER to surface and transfer to designated location?
how to adjust the reflector angle and direction to face earth ?
How to calibrate it ? remember the calibration only can be done AFTER installation oh ! LOL

How about more complex instrument like seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters ?

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 02:01 PM)
Can't argue anymore and change subject, real old sohem berambus la !

How the reflector move from MOON LANDER to surface and transfer to designated location?
how to adjust the reflector angle and direction to face earth ?
How to calibrate it ? remember the calibration only can be done AFTER installation oh ! LOL

How about more complex instrument like seismometers, solar wind collectors, and magnetic field meters ?
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Go google la. Russiand and ane also got reflectors lah. Dont change topic abt human landing la. Strawmang fallacies make you look like a noob.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 29 2024, 03:05 PM)
Go google la. Russiand and ane also got reflectors lah. Dont change topic abt human landing la. Strawmang fallacies make you look like a noob.
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Russian got reflector because they got MOON ROVER and their reflector attached to MOON ROVER ! PIAK PAIK, painful or not ?

see russian moon rover below !

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APOLLO 11 don't have MOON ROVER ! LOL



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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 02:08 PM)
Russian got reflector because they got MOON ROVER and their reflector attached to MOON ROVER ! PIAK PAIK, painful or not ?

APOLLO 11 no MOON LANDER ! LOL
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Ya, belip everything you read because you got no brain lol
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see russian moon rover below !

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APOLLO 11 don't have MOON ROVER ! LOL

How the NASA reflector move from MOON LANDER to surface and transfer to designated location?
how to adjust the NASA reflector angle and direction to face earth ?
How to calibrate it ? remember the calibration only can be done AFTER installation oh ! LOL

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jun 29 2024, 12:22 PM)
Should be still working, because CHINA team still can used it in 2019 to measure moon distance ? NASA is CHINA enemy, no reason CHINA lying right ?
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china just back this year from the moon taking the soil sample from the dark side of the moon. they're planning to use that to cultivate plant and claim half of the moon for themselves while we still debating whether usa landed on the moon fake or not
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china just back this year from the moon taking the soil sample from the dark side of the moon. they're planning to use that to cultivate plant and claim half of the moon for themselves while we still debating whether usa landed on the moon fake or not
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CHINA claim half of the moon for themselves?

With your logic, 55 years ago NASA already sent human to moon and taken back 380kg moon rock in various APOLLO missions, then US can claim whole moon belong to them NOW ! LOL

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QUOTE(James8899 @ Jul 1 2024, 03:02 PM)
CHINA claim half of the moon for themselves?

With your logic, 55 years ago NASA already sent human to moon and taken back 380kg moon rock in various APOLLO missions, then US can claim whole moon belong to them NOW ! LOL
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nah Nasa got no financial support anymore after a few more lunar landing. .
China have the money though
they will claim the moon. they're planning to send human within 2026 to 2028 and aim to have a permanent base there around 2030-2036
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QUOTE(darosha @ Jul 1 2024, 07:06 PM)
nah Nasa got no financial support anymore after a few more lunar landing. .
China have the money though
they will claim the moon. they're planning to send human within 2026 to 2028 and aim to have a permanent base there around 2030-2036
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With your logic(who send human to moon first), US no need to wait anymore and no need send human anymore also can claim whole moon belong to them NOW, because 55 years ago NASA already sent human to moon and taken back 380kg moon rock in various APOLLO missions.

Don't simply talk big here lah, when ccp SAY SEND HUMAN to moon in 2026 ? or you simply dreaming ?


Crewed mission phase
See also: Mengzhou (spacecraft) and Lanyue
In 2019, China was reviewing preliminary studies for a crewed lunar landing mission in the 2030s,[24][25] and possibly building an outpost near the lunar south pole with international cooperation.[6][24]

On 12 July 2023, at the 9th China (International) Commercial Aerospace Forum in Wuhan, Hubei province, Zhang Hailian, a deputy chief designer with the China Manned Space Agency (CMSA), publicly introduced a preliminary plan to land two astronauts on the Moon by the year 2030[1] using the Mengzhou crewed spacecraft and the Lanyue crewed lunar lander.[26][27]




I thought should be NASA plan to send human to moon again in 2026 ?

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its absolutely real. astronout even place reflector there
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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69 computer are still primitive, where got decent CGI during those time, it is mostly VFX.

Already waiting for 53 years, still no one send Man to Moon and Mars surface, maybe they are waiting for A.I. CGI to mature first before can continue the fairy tale as old as time.

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You kasi usaha la. Make it your goal to prove that it is real. Like debunking myth. Go on, we will support you.
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Fake. That video clip of the American flag fluttering on the moon is enough to answer your question.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 14 2025, 02:29 PM)
69 computer are still primitive, where got decent CGI during those time, it is mostly VFX.

Already waiting for 53 years, still no one send Man to Moon and Mars surface, maybe they are waiting for A.I. CGI to mature first before can continue the fairy tale as old as time.
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QUOTE(djlake @ May 14 2025, 02:32 PM)
You kasi usaha la. Make it your goal to prove that it is real. Like debunking myth. Go on, we will support you.
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QUOTE(hbm90 @ May 14 2025, 02:36 PM)
Fake. That video clip of the American flag fluttering on the moon is enough to answer your question.
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We can go to Space Station no issue. Can talk about going to Mars even. But coming to 60 years since Armstrong and still no human moon landing is kinda sus.

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Confirm is fake la..

They do it to show superpower over china and russia sahaja
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 14 2025, 05:03 PM)
We can go to Space Station no issue. Can talk about going to Mars even. But coming to 60 years since Armstrong and still no human moon landing is kinda sus.
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Armstrong is not the only person that landed on Moon.

In total, 6 missions manage to land their crews on it.
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If other Great Powers with more scientists in their pay doesnt dispute the US landing,then i dont think anyone has more reasons to believe otherwise.
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Everyone was watching closely on the moon landing especially USSR. The soviets will be having a field day if they were to find out the landing was a hoax

Damnit I didn't realize Necro thread

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If last time can, but why now America can't. It's a simple question people are asking. 😅
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bcs in late 60s all superpower racing who can go further in space to show power. Now no interest ady
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landing on moon earth in california
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See, you descend this into you vs me. Think big! Think bigger!!
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If last time can, but why now America can't. It's a simple question people are asking. 😅
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Exactly the question. Its like why ghost appear only on potato cam. But not on good cam.
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Unker how come last year u talk more. This year u words getting lesser
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 14 2025, 06:46 PM)
Exactly the question. Its like why ghost appear only on potato cam. But not on good cam.
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NASA's Artemis program is designed to be a long-term, sustainable approach to lunar exploration, unlike the Apollo missions, which were more focused on short-term lunar landings2. The Artemis program relies on the Space Launch System (SLS), which is a modernized and more powerful rocket compared to the Saturn V used in Apollo.

If political pressure were to demand a faster timeline, NASA would likely opt to accelerate Artemis rather than revert to Apollo-style rockets. The infrastructure, technology, and partnerships built around Artemis—including the Orion spacecraft, Lunar Gateway, and Human Landing System—are far more advanced and aligned with future Mars missions.

That said, NASA has historically adapted to political shifts, so while a complete return to Apollo-style rockets is unlikely, adjustments to Artemis' timeline or mission structure could happen if necessary
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Though a historical accomplishment, the moon landing came at a cost. From 1960 to 1973, the US federal government invested $25.8 billion into Project Apollo, which is about $318 billion in 2023 dollars.
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Y necro old thread??
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 14 2025, 05:08 PM)
Everyone was watching closely on the moon landing especially USSR. The soviets will be having a field day if they were to find out the landing was a hoax

Damnit I didn't realize Necro thread
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well, same person also believe earth is flat

lol
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 14 2025, 05:08 PM)
Everyone was watching closely on the moon landing especially USSR. The soviets will be having a field day if they were to find out the landing was a hoax

Damnit I didn't realize Necro thread
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During that time, the hatred for communist were all time high, and America was bombing many SEA countries that involved with communist ideology.

Anyone, including communist or not, who go against the narrative will be labeled as a traitor and a communist lover/sympathisers.

Heck, even now if you say anything that is in favor of Russia, they will automatically label it as Russia propaganda.

After many years, people don't bother about it anymore, exactly like covid, most people just want to move on even if they were lied repeatedly.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2025, 07:15 PM)
Though a historical accomplishment, the moon landing came at a cost. From 1960 to 1973, the US federal government invested $25.8 billion into Project Apollo, which is about $318 billion in 2023 dollars.
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Technology should cost less now. 1969-72 cost is high because of learning curve yeda2. Now the price of tech and cost of acquiring knowledge is low. Or you mean suddenly everyone forgot how to go to the moon and need to relearn? Lol
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If last time can, but why now America can't. It's a simple question people are asking. 😅
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After the Apollo program ended, US concentrated their resources on the space shuttle program and probes such as Voyager

Russia concentrated on Space Stations

Both were also actively putting satellites in orbit

The priority changed until today

So if they go today, do you think they will just build back rockets like the 1960s?

It's not simply just change the equipment to modern tech

All the factories, engineers, etc. that used to build the Apollo rockets are no more

That's why they are starting from scratch

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America was busy bombing poor country during fake landing planning and execution.

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Laos was heavily bombed during the Vietnam War, from 1964 to 1973, making it the most heavily bombed country in the world per capita. The United States dropped over 2 million tons of bombs, including 270 million cluster munitions, on Laos. A significant portion of these bombs, estimated at 30%, failed to explode on impact and remain in the ground, posing a continuing threat to the population.


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Over two million tons of ordnance was dropped over Laos during the 580,000 bombing missions - this equates to approximately a planeload of bombs every eight minutes, 24 hours a day, for nine years. A Secret War? The war was no secret to the poor farmers and their families, terrorised by the US air force.

Operation Barrel Roll was a covert interdiction and close air support campaign conducted in the Kingdom of Laos by the United States military between 5 March 1964 and 29 March 1973, concurrent with the Vietnam War. During the operation, U.S. Air Force 2nd Air Division and U.S. Navy Task Force 77 dropped 260 million bombs on Laos.[1]1964 and 1973


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in ancient time, they can make pyramid so high , now we forget how to do
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 14 2025, 07:47 PM)
After the Apollo program ended, US concentrated their resources on the space shuttle program and probes such as Voyager

Russia concentrated on Space Stations

Both were also actively putting satellites in orbit

The priority changed until today

So if they go today, do you think they will just build back rockets like the 1960s?

It's not simply just change the equipment to modern tech

All the factories, engineers, etc. that used to build the Apollo rockets are no more

That's why they are starting from scratch
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My foot, today's rocket or missiles technology are 100x better than the past. 😅
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My foot, today's rocket or missiles technology are 100x better than the past. 😅
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And computers are millions time much better too lol.
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They went, they found the Decepticon ship and salvaged the shit out of it. Then they stopped going. This is extensively recorded in the documentary Revenge of the Fallen.
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Someday woke crap will be over and we get plain and simple movie
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My foot, today's rocket or missiles technology are 100x better than the past. 😅
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Missiles are carrying humans and come back?
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And computers are millions time much better too lol.
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It just mean that everything in the old Apollo rockets can't be used anymore as it's not compatible with current tech
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As some one in IT for decades and seen the improvements over the yearssss.

I seriously don think old computer able to compute such a complicated journey.

And the mili second response needed to deal with the situation. Impossible for old tech.

Sending 3 guys to the rocket to back earth with such a small vehicle 🤭🤭 if 1969 able to do that, now we can power a city with AA batteries d.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 28 2024, 07:47 AM)
So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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the answer was simple ego.
moon landing was an ego project.
after many missions there, there have been nothing of value to modern day humans.
thus more moon landings and establishing a moon base is not economically viable.
however as an ego project cost wouldn't matter coz murica sked lussiah go there first then maruah t'chala.
if china say they going to the moon with a timeframe within this decade murica will do whatever it takes to be there first again.
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Don't worry

China astronauts will land on moon before 2030
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Does it really matter TS? If they landed on the moon or not, nothing benefit any one of us...
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QUOTE(The Retailer @ May 15 2025, 01:59 AM)
As some one in IT for decades and seen the improvements over the yearssss.

I seriously don think old computer able to compute such a complicated journey.

And the mili second response needed to deal with the situation. Impossible for old tech.

Sending 3 guys to the rocket to back earth with such a small vehicle 🤭🤭 if 1969 able to do that, now we can power a city with AA batteries d.
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Deswai quite funny when ppl give the excuse that it is too expensive now, or there is no need to prove anything now, or that priorities have changed yeda3. All mere excuses.

If chips, pong, cars, and rockets can grow in tech over a span of 10 years, it would be so easy to just jump across yo the moon now after 60yrs lol.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 07:19 AM)
Deswai quite funny when ppl give the excuse that it is too expensive now, or there is no need to prove anything now, or that priorities have changed yeda3. All mere excuses.

If chips, pong, cars, and rockets can grow in tech over a span of 10 years, it would be so easy to just jump across yo the moon now after 60yrs lol.
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A lot of people who don't believe in moon landing today don't understand what is cold war. If US faked the moon landing, they would have been made the laughing stock of the world. People forgot that Soviet was also in space power at that time and can detect the moon missions.

Going to the moon is not just going to space. After the Apollo missions ended in early 1970s, NASA resources went into the Space Shuttle program. The priority was developing a reusable vehicle for putting satellites in space. Nothing made was going far like the moon anymore for nearly 50 years.

US space program actually declined after the Apollo program. Everyone knows what happened to Space Shuttles and they have not properly replaced them. NASA's budget was cut for decades and they are only sending probes today. You can see their problems today with the stranded astronaut on ISS. US space program is now relying on private sectors like Space X instead on government.

If they want to restart their moon program, they will need to reinvest a lot again and basically start from scratch with today's tech
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I believe they succeed in sending unmanned mechanical equipment there.
All the video clips are recorded in studio
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I believe they succeed in sending unmanned mechanical equipment there.
All the video clips are recorded in studio
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Do you think all other countries is stupid? Soviet Union was equal to US at that time.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 15 2025, 07:21 AM)
Do you think all other countries is stupid? Soviet Union was equal to US at that time.
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They are all genius and yet none able to replicate, even now.
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They are all genius and yet none able to replicate, even now.
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Read my post #294

A lot of people already given reasons but a lot of people today due to internet prefer to believe conspiracy theories and they think going to the moon today is just build back the same thing like the Apollo program but they forgot that the tech today are totally different from the tech in the past
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who la go an revive this thread.

to those who don't believe simply because we can't replicate it.

you have to accept that technology gets replace and die and its happening on a daily basis.

take floppy disk for example. your grandson will say it did not exist and i can tel you even now you will find it hard to find a company to fabricate the ic, the tooling, cables to make one, let alone someone to write the code for it.

or window 95, it is being replace because there are better ways of writing codes and it makes no sense to go back to it. some might argue, i have a bug now in 95, since msft won't debug it for me w95 must be a fake and comes from alien. its simply because msf does not have the knowledge anymore or people who knows it line by line is already dead.

it makes no economic sense to revive old technology. and back to the moon, there is nothing in the moon to exploit.

my company is using a very old sap platform. need to migrate to a newer one in 2 years. why? because the old people all retired and new hire won't know how the old platform works. and no, they will not invest in old platform anymore.

so if you want us to land on moon again spent billions for nothing just to proof to the skeptical few...hmmmm fat chance
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 28 2024, 07:53 AM)
Because no body want to go there. Nothing much to see.  biggrin.gif

No need to risk human life since robot can do the job.
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Many rich people wanna go there .
Don't say rich, Katy Perry was just sent to space.

Just that probably cannot do it anymore now
Or has all been an illusion


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QUOTE(bengang15 @ May 15 2025, 08:53 AM)
who la go an revive this thread.

to those who don't believe simply because we can't replicate it.

you have to accept that technology gets replace and die and its happening on a daily basis.

take floppy disk for example. your grandson will say it did not exist and i can tel you even now you will find it hard to find a company to fabricate the ic, the tooling, cables to make one, let alone someone to write the code for it.

or window 95, it is being replace because there are better ways of writing codes and it makes no sense to go back to it. some might argue, i have a bug now in 95, since msft won't debug it for me w95 must be a fake and comes from alien. its simply because msf does not have the knowledge anymore or people who knows it line by line is already dead.

it makes no economic sense to revive old technology. and back to the moon, there is nothing in the moon to exploit.

my company is using a very old sap platform. need to migrate to a newer one in 2 years. why? because the old people all retired and new hire won't know how the old platform works. and no, they will not invest in old platform anymore.

so if you want us to land on moon again spent billions for nothing just to proof to the skeptical few...hmmmm fat chance
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Going back to the moon will be useful if human wish to go to the Mars and beyond

The space race in the 60s led to advancement in tech in US and a lot of young people in US got into science and technology
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 15 2025, 08:28 AM)
Going back to the moon will be useful if human wish to go to the Mars and beyond

The space race in the 60s led to advancement in tech in US and a lot of young people in US got into science and technology
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Elong Mask says he wants to go to Mars. So if moon also dont have the tech, coz dismantled as you say, then how to go Mars?
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 15 2025, 08:28 AM)
Going back to the moon will be useful if human wish to go to the Mars and beyond

The space race in the 60s led to advancement in tech in US and a lot of young people in US got into science and technology
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Wishful thinking. We can also say we want to explore the galaxy. Right now we simply does not have the technology (cheap) to build space Station on the moon.

Money is now going into AI.

As tou mentioned the driving force in the 60s was space race. Now its AI and war machines. No one talks or want to start a space station.
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To fairytale believer, answer this:

When can any country, company, or collaboration be able to beat 60s technologies of sending 11 Apollo programs to space and 6 moon landing successfully within 4 years gap only?

2030? 2040? 2050?

Or we need to wait several years more until A.I. CGI become flawless like the matrix?
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Also, the average distance between the Earth and the Moon is 384,400 km (238 855 miles), if returned trip, easily 770,000 km.

Space station 408 km distance also got a few mishaps already.


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Apollo 7—October 11–22, 1968

The first crewed Apollo space mission was Apollo 7. The three astronauts on Apollo 7 were Walter Schirra, Jr., Donn Eisele, and Walter Cunningham. They spent 10 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds in space. Apollo 7 completed 163 orbits around Earth, traveling 4,546,918.3 miles.

Apollo 8—December 21–27, 1968

Apollo 8 was the first to fly around the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 8 were William Anders, Frank Borman, and James Lovell, Jr. They spent 6 days, 3 hours, and 42 seconds in space. Apollo 8 completed 10 orbits around Earth, traveling 579,606.9 miles.

Apollo 9—March 3–13, 1969

Apollo 9 tested the Lunar Module in Earth orbit. The three astronauts on Apollo 9 were James McDivitt, David Scott, and Russell Schweickart. They spent 10 days, 1 hour, and 54 seconds in space. Apollo 9 completed 151 orbits around Earth, traveling 4,214,543 miles.

Apollo 10—May 18–26, 1969

Apollo 10 was the rehearsal for the first Moon landing. The three astronauts on Apollo 10 were Thomas Stafford, John Young, and Eugene Cernan. They spent 8 days, 23 minutes, and 23 seconds in space. Apollo 10 completed 31 orbits around Earth, traveling 829,437.5 miles.

Apollo 11—July 16–24, 1969

Apollo 11 was the first mission to land and walk on the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 11 were Neil Armstrong, Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, and Michael Collins. Armstrong and Aldrin each spent a total of 2 hours and 32 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 8 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 35 seconds in space and traveled a total of 953,054 miles. “The Eagle has landed…”— Astronaut Neil Armstrong as the Apollo 11 Lunar Module landed on the Moon. “…one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind”— Astronaut Neil Armstrong as he stepped onto the Moon for the first time.

Apollo 12—November 14–24, 1969

Apollo 12 was the first precision landing on the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 12 were Charles Conrad, Alan Bean, and Richard Gordon. Conrad and Bean each spent a total of 7 hours and 27 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 10 days, 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 25 seconds in space and traveled 952,354 miles.

Apollo 13—April 11–17, 1970

Apollo 13 survived an oxygen tank explosion. The three astronauts on Apollo 13 were James Lovell, Jr., Fred Haise, Jr., and Jack Swigert. They spent 5 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes, and 41 seconds in space. Apollo 13 completed 1.5 orbits around Earth, traveling 622,268 miles. “Houston, we’ve had a problem…”—Astronaut Jack Swigert

Apollo 14—January 31–February 9, 1971

Apollo 14 was the first Moon landing in the lunar highlands. The three astronauts on Apollo 14 were Alan B. Shepard, Jr., Edgar D. Mitchell, and Stuart A. Roosa. Shepard and Mitchell each spent a total of 9 hours and 35 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 9 days and 2 seconds in space and traveled 1,150,321 miles.

Apollo 15—July 26–August 7, 1971

Apollo 15 was the first mission to use the lunar rover. The three astronauts on Apollo 15 were David Scott, James Irwin, and Alfred Worden. Scott and Irwin each spent 18 hours and 40 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 12 days, 17 hours, and 12 minutes in space and traveled 1,274,137 miles.

Apollo 16—April 16–27, 1972

Apollo 16 spent their mission exploring the lunar highlands. The three astronauts on Apollo 16 were John Young, Charles Duke, and Thomas Mattingly. Young and Duke each spent a total of 20 hours and 15 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 11 days, 1 hour, and 51 minutes in space and traveled 1,391,550 miles.

Apollo 17—December 7–19, 1972

Apollo 17 was the last mission to walk on the Moon. The three astronauts were Eugene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt, and Ron Evans. Cernan and Schmitt each spent a total of 22 hours and 5 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 12 days, 13 hours, and 52 minutes in space and traveled 1,484,933.8 miles.

Facts About the Moon and Space Travel

A total of 12 astronauts walked on the Moon. The Moon has had a total of 24 human visitors. The Moon’s average distance to Earth is 238,855 miles.
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Also, the average distance between the Earth and the Moon is 384,400 km (238 855 miles), if returned trip, easily 770,000 km.

Space station 408 km distance also got a few mishaps already.
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The most significant accident in the Apollo program resulted in the deaths of the Apollo 1 crew. On January 27, 1967, a fire in the command module during a simulated launch rehearsal test killed astronauts Virgil "Gus" Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee. This accident occurred before any Apollo mission was launched. While there were other near-disasters during Apollo missions, such as Apollo 13's oxygen tank explosion, Apollo 1's fire resulted in fatalities.
Apollo 1 Tragedy:
Date: January 27, 1967.
Location: Cape Kennedy Air Force Station (now Cape Canaveral Air Force Station).
Cause: A fire in the command module during a preflight test. The fire was ignited by a stray spark in the pure oxygen atmosphere of the capsule.
Outcome: All three astronauts on board the command module perished.
Astronauts: Virgil Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee.
Impact: The Apollo 1 disaster led to extensive safety reviews, redesigns of the Apollo spacecraft, and a significant delay in the program's timeline.
Apollo 13 Near-Disaster:
Date: April 13, 1970.
Cause: An oxygen tank explosion in the service module during the flight to the Moon.
Outcome: The mission was aborted, but the astronauts were successfully brought back to Earth.
Astronauts: James Lovell, Jack Swigert, and Fred Haise.
Impact: Apollo 13 highlighted the dangers of spaceflight and the importance of redundancy and emergency procedures.
While Apollo 1 resulted in fatalities, Apollo 13 was a near-disaster that ended without loss of life.

so?
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To fairytale believer, answer this:

When can any country, company, or collaboration be able to beat 60s technologies of sending 11 Apollo programs to space and 6 moon landing successfully within 4 years gap only?

2030? 2040? 2050?

Or we need to wait several years more until A.I. CGI become flawless like the matrix?
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earth is flat or not?
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The most significant accident in the Apollo program resulted in the deaths of the Apollo 1 crew. On January 27, 1967, a fire in the command module during a simulated launch rehearsal test killed astronauts Virgil "Gus" Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee. This accident occurred before any Apollo mission was launched. While there were other near-disasters during Apollo missions, such as Apollo 13's oxygen tank explosion, Apollo 1's fire resulted in fatalities.
Apollo 1 Tragedy:
Date: January 27, 1967.
Location: Cape Kennedy Air Force Station (now Cape Canaveral Air Force Station).
Cause: A fire in the command module during a preflight test. The fire was ignited by a stray spark in the pure oxygen atmosphere of the capsule.
Outcome: All three astronauts on board the command module perished.
Astronauts: Virgil Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee.
Impact: The Apollo 1 disaster led to extensive safety reviews, redesigns of the Apollo spacecraft, and a significant delay in the program's timeline.
Apollo 13 Near-Disaster:
Date: April 13, 1970.
Cause: An oxygen tank explosion in the service module during the flight to the Moon.
Outcome: The mission was aborted, but the astronauts were successfully brought back to Earth.
Astronauts: James Lovell, Jack Swigert, and Fred Haise.
Impact: Apollo 13 highlighted the dangers of spaceflight and the importance of redundancy and emergency procedures.
While Apollo 1 resulted in fatalities, Apollo 13 was a near-disaster that ended without loss of life.

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They had good Hollywood writers, any good fairytale story must have good writers behind it.
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like how you think covid is fake?
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oh my poor little vaccine denier

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Lol, the exact same line every time I make it tough for you to answer.

Kesienz fairytale believer keeps spewing "earth is flat" nonsense rhetoric.

You don't need to be defensive if you truly believe in your fairytale story.

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If one day wumaos never gaduh with others means its a miracle

Inb4

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Why are you dragging covid issue to this topic?

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Why are you dragging covid issue to this topic?

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The NASA program was to send 12 people to the moon from 69 to 72. There were 7 mission Apollo 11 to Apollo 17 including one failed mission which is Apollo 13. Public interest faded fast after Apollo 13 thus you never heard much about the rest. So except for the failed one, the rest got astronauts landing on the moon.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p...ked_on_the_Moon

https://www.space.com/how-many-people-have-...ked-on-the-moon
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They can get pass the van allen radiation belt?
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If you believe earth is flat, and man has landed on the moon.

You are free to believe that too.

Just don't enforce it to others who don't share your enthusiasm.

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They can get pass the van allen radiation belt?
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How did astronauts get through the Van Allen radiation belt?
Van Allen radiation belt - Wikipedia
The Apollo missions minimised hazards for astronauts by sending spacecraft at high speeds through the thinner areas of the upper belts, bypassing inner belts completely, except for the Apollo 14 mission where the spacecraft traveled through the heart of the trapped radiation belts.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ May 15 2025, 07:53 AM)
who la go an revive this thread.

to those who don't believe simply because we can't replicate it.

you have to accept that technology gets replace and die and its happening on a daily basis.

take floppy disk for example. your grandson will say it did not exist and i can tel you even now you will find it hard to find a company to fabricate the ic, the tooling, cables to make one, let alone someone to write the code for it.

or window 95, it is being replace because there are better ways of writing codes and it makes no sense to go back to it. some might argue, i have a bug now in 95, since msft won't debug it for me w95 must be a fake and comes from alien. its simply because msf does not have the knowledge anymore or people who knows it line by line is already dead.

it makes no economic sense to revive old technology. and back to the moon, there is nothing in the moon to exploit.

my company is using a very old sap platform. need to migrate to a newer one in 2 years. why? because the old people all retired and new hire won't know how the old platform works. and no, they will not invest in old platform anymore.

so if you want us to land on moon again spent billions for nothing just to proof to the skeptical few...hmmmm fat chance
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The most sensible explanation notworthy.gif

Unfortunately those who dun believe moon landing would never accept any explanations no matter what, coz their mind already made up it can only be fake
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How did astronauts get through the Van Allen radiation belt?
Van Allen radiation belt - Wikipedia
The Apollo missions minimised hazards for astronauts by sending spacecraft at high speeds through the thinner areas of the upper belts, bypassing inner belts completely, except for the Apollo 14 mission where the spacecraft traveled through the heart of the trapped radiation belts.
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High speed?
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High speed?
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so?

How long does it take to pass through the Van Allen radiation belt?
52 minutes
NASA determined that a spacecraft could travel through the radiation belts in 52 minutes with exposure of only 13 rads, based upon Van Allen's findings. This was determined to be well below the OSHA threshold and considered to be completely harmless.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 09:49 AM)
To fairytale believer, answer this:

When can any country, company, or collaboration be able to beat 60s technologies of sending 11 Apollo programs to space and 6 moon landing successfully within 4 years gap only?

2030? 2040? 2050?

Or we need to wait several years more until A.I. CGI become flawless like the matrix?
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To be fair, 60s Moon Landing is not merely tech race.

It is a mad race between 2 superpowers to expend everything including human life for only 1 thing, national pride.

Nobody will do a crew missions ever at such scale and so abruptly when there is no followup plan. You cant colonize it anyway.
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so?

How long does it take to pass through the Van Allen radiation belt?
52 minutes
NASA determined that a spacecraft could travel through the radiation belts in 52 minutes with exposure of only 13 rads, based upon Van Allen's findings. This was determined to be well below the OSHA threshold and considered to be completely harmless.
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The most sensible explanation  notworthy.gif

Unfortunately those who dun believe moon landing would never accept any explanations no matter what, coz their mind already made up it can only be fake
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Lol, hahaha, most sensible, more like 101 excuses to fake it out.

We believe in moon landing, we believe in unmanned moon landing, that's how they put retroreflectors on the moon.

Just that we don't believe human actually step on the moon yet, those are just extras to justifying over bloated budget, so the American taxpayers are content with the money the government spending for it.

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Humans have been to space almost 400 times but there are people that still think that Earth is flat.

Humans have been to the moon 6 times. Even if we go another 400 times, that would still be people that believe the moon landing is fake.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ May 15 2025, 10:32 AM)
Humans have been to space almost 400 times but there are people that still think that Earth is flat.

Humans have been to the moon 6 times. Even if we go another 400 times, that would still be people that believe the moon landing is fake.
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So many bots are being activated with the same rhetoric.

Earth is flat... earth is flat... need more input... earth is flat...

You guys are funny.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 10:28 AM)
Lol, hahaha, most sensible, more like 101 excuses to fake it out.

We believe in moon landing, we believe in unmanned moon landing, that's how they put retroreflectors on the moon.

Just that we don't believe human actually step on the moon yet, those are just extras to justifying over bloated budget, so the American taxpayers are content with the money the government spending for it.
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People like you, is like 101 denials it can only be fake.

Even if NASA puts you in the rocket and flies you up, you'll say it's fake, the scenes outside the viewport are cgi

Even if put you in the spacesuit and put you on the moon, you'll insist its fake. Everything is artificially created in a studio somewhere

The only way to actually convince you will be to push you out of the airlock onto the moon without your spacesuit.

So yeah go on believing your moon landing is a hoax. Just don't enforce it to others who don't share your sohainess
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QUOTE(Rorschach85 @ May 15 2025, 10:28 AM)

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"You can't trust NASA, they're lying to us!"

"This guy who works for NASA just said a modern day spacecraft can't guarantee safe passage for a manned flight into space!"

"Everything he says is legitimate and true!!"


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“Can we survive Van Allen belt radiation?”

Easily. Stop reading nutjob news.

Before Apollo 10, the Lunar Orbiters carried dosimeter experiments. One dosimeter had a layer of aluminum ober it (a few mm), another had barely anything at all between it and a sky view. These cover layers were no accident: the aluminum layer was the shielding equivalent of the Apollo capsule wall, and the lesser layer was the equivalent of the Apollo flight suit.

Results? The dosimeter readings were judged to be within the acceptable radiation dose, both in lunar orbit and the outbound phase of the missions (i. e., the Van Allen Belts). Had the radiation numbers been high, there was still time to add, e. g., shield layers to the suits, or perhaps a capsule liner, or more likely a “storm cellar” near the center of the Command Module.

It’s the job of management to think of things like this. In Space World, you generally don’t get a “do-over” because your first attempt was weak. It’s the job of space planners to succeed on the first try as often as possible, which includes outside, expert program reviews to uncover things one might have forgotten, or brushed off, or underestimated. If no expertise exists (because no one’s done it before), some sort of risk retirement is called for, such as the dosimeter experiment. In Ground World, one can get away with weak attempts because they’re attempts, and people trust their own diligence. If another attempt is needed, then it’s needed.

We laugh at Ground World.





A satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium in an elliptic orbit (200 by 20,000 miles (320 by 32,190 km)) passing the radiation belts will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year (for comparison, a full-body dose of 5 Sv is deadly). Almost all radiation will be received while passing the inner belt.[31]

25/365 = 0.07

5(Sv) / 0.07 = 71.2

So you have to spend a spit balled 71.2 days (with minimal protection) in the inner belt to receive a potentially lethal dose of radiation.

Bear in mind that's with only 3 mm of aluminium shielding. Manned spacecraft have way more protection than that. The more matter radiation has to pass through, the less effective it becomes. So even the atmosphere inside the craft acts as shielding. And indeed proposed procedures for handling radiation spikes in space is to locate to a central most cabin (kinda like waiting out a tornado in a basement).

Going on:

Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field. The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.

The real reason everyone's concerned about radiation is because of the nasty long term effects it can have. Kind of hard sending your best and brightest out there with the knowledge they can have increased chances of developing cancer and/or having deformed offspring. However, this aspect is still very much under research as environmental/lifestyle aspects seem to have have equal or greater impacts.

A dose of under 100 rad will typically produce no immediate symptoms other than blood changes. 100 to 200 rad delivered to the entire body in less than a day may cause acute radiation syndrome, (ARS) but is usually not fatal. Doses of 200 to 1,000 rad delivered in a few hours will cause serious illness with poor outlook at the upper end of the range. Whole body doses of more than 1,000 rad are almost invariably fatal.

So in one day you need to subject an astronaut to 10 times the upper threshold of radiation exposure encountered by an astronaut over an entire trip. Just to make them sick.


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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:39 AM)
People like you, is like 101 denials it can only be fake.

Even if NASA puts you in the rocket and flies you up, you'll say it's fake, the scenes outside the viewport are cgi

Even if put you in the spacesuit and put you on the moon, you'll insist its fake. Everything is artificially created in a studio somewhere

The only way to actually convince you will be to push you out of the airlock onto the moon without your spacesuit.

So yeah go on believing your moon landing is a hoax. Just don't enforce it to others who don't share your sohainess
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NASA can't even rescue their own astronauts stranded in space station, until need to beg Elon Musk for it.

And that's only 408 km distance from Earth.

The average distance between the Earth and the Moon is 384,400 km (238 855 miles), if returned trip, easily 770,000 km.

It is a suicide mission, no return trip, one way ticket.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:18 AM)
The most sensible explanation  notworthy.gif

Unfortunately those who dun believe moon landing would never accept any explanations no matter what, coz their mind already made up it can only be fake
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Yeah. So imagine having to spend billions just to proof to few that have already made up their mind for what....

Spending time in this thread to me is already a waste of time. Just to convince a few. Believe or don't believe makes no difference to me. Not that I get money or what.

Just wnat to point out that technology changes and most will fade away.


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Originally Answered: Why is there a video of a NASA scientist in YouTube stating that they have yet figured out a way for man to pass through the Van Allen?
There isn’t.

No one from NASA would ever say anything that ignorant. Delete your YouTube account; you’ve been sucked into conspiracy nut videos. If you’ve visited their websites, I’d run an anti-virus scan, too.

I know which video you are talking about. At no time during the video does the speaker say NASA can’t get past the Van Allen Belts. You are being confused by the snarky text balloons put there by the reposter. Just listen to the speaker.

We crossed through the Van Allen belts (there are two of them) 18 times during the Apollo program (Apollo 8, Apollo 10, Apollo 11, Apollo 12, Apollo 13, Apollo 14, Apollo 15, Apollo 16, and Apollo 17) and before that, Gemini 11 had entered the lower belt. Many of those astronauts lived into their eighties and some are still alive. I recently spent a Friday evening at a talk by Apollo 13 astronaut, Fred Haise, and he appears as robust as a man twenty years younger.

Cosmic radiation, in general, will be a challenge for a lengthy mission to Mars, but that has no connection to crossing the Van Allen belts.
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@logfire4628
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"You can't trust NASA, they're lying to us!"

"This guy who works for NASA just said a modern day spacecraft can't guarantee safe passage for a manned flight into space!"

"Everything he says is legitimate and true!!"
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Check who is the head of NASA during that time, he was high ranking Nazi officer.

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Wernher von Braun was the director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) in Huntsville, Alabama. He was also the chief architect of the Saturn V rocket, which launched the Apollo 11 mission to the moon. While he played a crucial role in the space program, his association with the Nazi regime is a significant part of his history.


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so?

you getting at any point here?

forget your meds this morning?
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NASA can't even rescue their own astronauts stranded in space station, until need to beg Elon Musk for it.

And that's only 408 km distance from Earth.

The average distance between the Earth and the Moon is 384,400 km (238 855 miles), if returned trip, easily 770,000 km.

It is a suicide mission, no return trip, one way ticket.
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And that is proof moon landings are a hoax, yup, so much true, so much omg, so mu-... AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! rclxm9.gif
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So in 1969 can send 3 persons to moon, walk2, and come back like heros.

In 2024, can only go there korek2 get stones to bring back. Nobody has gone there since the age of coloured tv and socmed.

Was it even real??

Inb4 ts conspiracy sohem but cmon, wake the heck up and think
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Moon landing fake you are fake not existing in real life.



This thread bodo doesn't exist too. Fake news.
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Check who is the head of NASA during that time, he was high ranking Nazi officer.

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so?

you getting at any point here?

forget your meds this morning?
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They genocide Jewish & Gypsies, they spread false propaganda about them to dehumanize all of them, which is seriously wicked.

So they are experts in false propaganda campaigns.

QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:50 AM)
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Dude, if 408km also can fail, don't need to mention more than half million kilometers trip.

I also laughing that loud when I heard NASA was begging to Elon Musk like beggars to use his SpaceX capsule to help rescue their stranded astronauts 408km away.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ May 15 2025, 10:46 AM)
Yeah. So imagine having to spend billions just to proof to few that have already made up their mind for what....

Spending time in this thread to me is already a waste of time. Just to convince a few. Believe or don't believe makes no difference to me. Not that I get money or what.

Just wnat to point out that technology changes and most will fade away.
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A more recent example, even in the 2000's we already lost things, somemore it's programming source code. Data only wat no meh? 1's and 0's only wat, how can lost wan? It's already backup somewhere just conspiracy dowan to release only rite???

But yeah, it happens in real life. Yet some peoples brain is like hardwired can only believe fake news, they cannot accept the truth lol

https://gameranx.com/updates/id/27404/artic...-s-source-code/
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 10:56 AM)
Dude, if 408km also can fail, don't need to mention more than half million kilometers trip.

I also laughing that loud when I heard NASA was begging to Elon Musk like beggars to use his SpaceX capsule to help rescue their stranded astronauts 408km away.
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yalah, just like the pyramids and great wall of china must be fake news, coz we never build them again today. Heck we can't even build a single building properly today, that must mean the pyramids or the great wall must be fake yohhh!!!

https://apnews.com/article/thailand-bangkok...2ff5d83f9362438

So yeah, moon landings are fake, yes yes definitely. IT. MUST. BE.

AHAHAHAHAAGAHGAHGAAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! lol.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 11:08 AM)
yalah, just like the pyramids and great wall of china must be fake news, coz we never build them again today. Heck we can't even build a single building properly today, that must mean the pyramids or the great wall must be fake yohhh!!!

https://apnews.com/article/thailand-bangkok...2ff5d83f9362438

So yeah, moon landings are fake, yes yes definitely. IT. MUST. BE.

AHAHAHAHAAGAHGAHGAAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! :lol2:
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Lol, I am also laughing that hard at your fail reasoning.

Son, if you want to keep believing in your favorite childhood fairytale, then please go ahead.

But please don't try to throw tantrum here when others don't share your enthusiasm.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 11:02 AM)
A more recent example, even in the 2000's we already lost things, somemore it's programming source code. Data only wat no meh? 1's and 0's only wat, how can lost wan? It's already backup somewhere just conspiracy dowan to release only rite???

But yeah, it happens in real life. Yet some peoples brain is like hardwired can only believe fake news, they cannot accept the truth lol

https://gameranx.com/updates/id/27404/artic...-s-source-code/
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Lol. We got Wikipedia. Everything is there.

Nasa source code for moon landing are probably written on hardcopy. Oh no...conspiracy. last time have ssd tumbdrive already. So must be in a vault guarded by alien.

On the some what similar topic, ancient Rome makes road that can last until today. Apparently they are "self healing". This tech also must have been lock somewhere.


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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 11:12 AM)
Lol, I am also laughing that hard at your fail reasoning.

Son, if you want to keep believing in your favorite childhood fairytale, then please go ahead.

But please don't try to throw tantrum here when others don't share your enthusiasm.
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no lah, where got believe... the pyramids or the great wall are fake yoh! We can't even build a single building properly today so how come we can build pyramids and great wall last time???

just like today we oledi stuck on iss, so how come we can land on the moon last time???

Must be fake news yoh! Fake news I tell u!

AHAGAHAGAHAHAHHAAAGAGAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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If moon landing is real then earth must be flat
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 12:12 PM)
Lol, I am also laughing that hard at your fail reasoning.

Son, if you want to keep believing in your favorite childhood fairytale, then please go ahead.

But please don't try to throw tantrum here when others don't share your enthusiasm.
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Fairytale? People died going to the moon and people like you choose to believe nutcase conspiracy theories
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18 pages already yet the most important question which is...

"how is moon landing real or not real, relevant to bolehland?"

....remains unanswered.
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If moon landing is real then earth must be flat
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Why do people still want to engage with these nutjobs? Not like you get anything out of it. Someone said they'd only believe if you threw them out of the airlock. Methinks they'll probably think it's a vacuum chamber on earth, with some magic, gravity blocking stone in the flooring.

You can't win. Just ignore. Whoever resurrected this thread reallyyy NBTD.
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if they can land on the moon with dinosaur computer technology, they can't do it again with iphone technology?
they have built a ISS in the orbit, why not build a ISS on the moon with our current technology for research purposes and big leap to build a mankind community in space?
previously they have limited time on the moon but with an ISS on the moon they can have ample time to do any digging and research.

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QUOTE(quintesson @ May 15 2025, 12:05 PM)
if they can land on the moon with dinosaur computer technology, they can't do it again with iphone technology?
they have built a ISS in the orbit, why not build a ISS on the moon with our current technology for research purposes and big leap to build a mankind community in space?
previously they have limited time on the moon but with an ISS on the moon they can have ample time to do any digging and research.
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The Saturn V rocket, fully fueled, weighed 6.2 million pounds (2.8 million kg) and had a total lift-off thrust of 7.5 million pounds. It was capable of placing a 141-metric-ton (155-ton) payload into low Earth orbit, making it the most powerful rocket ever flown,

and the dinosaur tech you mentioned mean most of the subsystem on moon orbiter and lander already obsolete. If obsolete, you can't get it anymore


there is also no current rocket as powerful as saturn V

so.....
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 11:20 AM)
no lah, where got believe... the pyramids or the great wall are fake yoh! We can't even build a single building properly today so how come we can build pyramids and great wall last time???

just like today we oledi stuck on iss, so how come we can land on the moon last time???

Must be fake news yoh! Fake news I tell u!

AHAGAHAGAHAHAHHAAAGAGAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Hahaha, funny, you become retarded just because people doesn't believe in your cherish fairytale.

QUOTE(30624770 @ May 15 2025, 11:31 AM)
Fairytale? People died going to the moon and people like you choose to believe nutcase conspiracy theories
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People die all the time, every second, so?

America was busy bombing poor country during fake moon landing planning and execution.

Those death doesn't count?

Because they are poor farmers communist?

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Laos was heavily bombed during the Vietnam War, from 1964 to 1973, making it the most heavily bombed country in the world per capita. The United States dropped over 2 million tons of bombs, including 270 million cluster munitions, on Laos. A significant portion of these bombs, estimated at 30%, failed to explode on impact and remain in the ground, posing a continuing threat to the population.


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Over two million tons of ordnance was dropped over Laos during the 580,000 bombing missions - this equates to approximately a planeload of bombs every eight minutes, 24 hours a day, for nine years. A Secret War? The war was no secret to the poor farmers and their families, terrorised by the US air force.

Operation Barrel Roll was a covert interdiction and close air support campaign conducted in the Kingdom of Laos by the United States military between 5 March 1964 and 29 March 1973, concurrent with the Vietnam War. During the operation, U.S. Air Force 2nd Air Division and U.S. Navy Task Force 77 dropped 260 million bombs on Laos.[1]1964 and 1973


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barrel_Roll
https://www.theguardian.com/global-developm...bombs-from-laos

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 12:31 PM)
Hahaha, funny, you become retarded just because people doesn't believe in your cherish fairytale.
People die all the time, every second, so?

America was busy bombing poor country during fake moon landing planning and execution.

Those death doesn't count?

Because they are poor farmers communist?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barrel_Roll
https://www.theguardian.com/global-developm...bombs-from-laos
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eh how come dun believe the pyramids or great wall or moon landings is now fairy tale n retarded pulak? So u now say u retarded now or wat? adoiii why la, so how now, moon landings are real or retarded fairy tale?

So murica bombing laos is proof moon landings are fake now? I see I see, wahhh... how come nobody except smsid make that connection, amazing brain yohhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 12:46 PM)
eh how come dun believe the pyramids or great wall or moon landings is now fairy tale n retarded pulak? So u now say u retarded now or wat? adoiii why la, so how now, moon landings are real or retarded fairy tale?

So murica bombing laos is proof moon landings are fake now? I see I see, wahhh... how come nobody except smsid make that connection, amazing brain yohhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Trying hard to twist yours or mine words are not going to make anyone believe in your fairytale of people landed on the moon.

When the facts is NASA has to beg Elon Musk to rescue their stranded astronauts 408 km away from Earth.

The distance of the return trip to Moon is approx 770,000 km, and they did many times within 4 years, from the year 69 to 72.

That's easily more than 4 million km combine, within 4 years gap, and now they can't even save their own people from 408 km away after many decades has passed.

The math doesn't add up.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 12:53 PM)
Trying hard to twist yours or mine words are not going to make anyone believe in your fairytale of people landed on the moon.

When the facts is NASA has to beg Elon Musk to rescue their stranded astronauts 408 km away from Earth.

The distance of the return trip to Moon is approx 770,000 km, and they did many times within 4 years, from the year 69 to 72.

That's easily more than 4 million km combine, within 4 years gap, and now they can't even save their own people from 408 km away after many decades has passed.

The math doesn't add up.
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Of coz the math doesn't add up. How can we build the pyramids or the great wall of china last time when we couldn't even build a single building properly today???

Or the cataclysm game losing it's source code. Eh hallo, where got such thing yoh, the game is right in front of u, wat u mean lost the source code? How can u say cannot recreate the game even with the game working in front of u? Must be fake news yoh!!!

All fairy tales man. IT. MUST. BE. FAIRYTALES 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 01:03 PM)
Of coz the math doesn't add up. How can we build the pyramids or the great wall of china last time when we couldn't even build a single building properly today???

Or the cataclysm game losing it's source code. Eh hallo, where got such thing yoh, the game is right in front of u, wat u mean lost the source code? How can u say cannot recreate the game even with the game working in front of u? Must be fake news yoh!!!

All fairy tales man. IT. MUST. BE. FAIRYTALES 🤣🤣🤣
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Kinda pathetic that you are dragging other unrelated topics when you yourself can't answer simple questions.

If you want to believe in fairytale like little children, go ahead, no one stopping you, but at least try to answer the question head on with your "science" and better theories instead of recycling old garbage scripts like earth is flat nonsense.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 01:11 PM)
Kinda pathetic that you are dragging other unrelated topics when you yourself can't answer simple questions.

If you want to believe in fairytale like little children, go ahead, no one stopping you, but at least try to answer the question head on with your "science" and better theories instead of recycling old garbage scripts like earth is flat nonsense.
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eh dudeeeee... I'm actually agreeing with you oh, why u butthurt pulak? laugh.gif

True wat, why last time we can land in moon but today no more? ISS so close oso we stuck yoh! Just like last time we can build pyramids and the great wall but today cannot even build a building properly. Even something so simple like the cataclysm game oso cannot reproduce even with the game right in front of u???

Them moon landings, pyramids and great wall must be fake news man, FAIRY TALES AND FAAAKKKKEEEEEEE NEWSSSS I tell u!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 12:53 PM)
Trying hard to twist yours or mine words are not going to make anyone believe in your fairytale of people landed on the moon.

When the facts is NASA has to beg Elon Musk to rescue their stranded astronauts 408 km away from Earth.

The distance of the return trip to Moon is approx 770,000 km, and they did many times within 4 years, from the year 69 to 72.

That's easily more than 4 million km combine, within 4 years gap, and now they can't even save their own people from 408 km away after many decades has passed.

The math doesn't add up.
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not trying to change your opinions on the topics, but just to highlight NASA basically has no capability to fly on their own to low orbit. They depend on contractors to do it while they focus on deep space part.

It is sucks when you depends on contractors all time.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 01:21 PM)
eh dudeeeee... I'm actually agreeing with you oh, why u butthurt pulak? laugh.gif

True wat, why last time we can land in moon but today no more? ISS so close oso we stuck yoh! Just like last time we can build pyramids and the great wall but today cannot even build a building properly. Even something so simple like the cataclysm game oso cannot reproduce even with the game right in front of u???

Them moon landings, pyramids and great wall must be fake news man, FAIRY TALES AND FAAAKKKKEEEEEEE NEWSSSS I tell u!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Again, you are trying too hard to plotek-plotek your childhood fairytale with buildings and walls that people can see for themselves and touch it too.

There are countless youtube videos where people visit those places, so people don't bother to plotek-plotek it, because it actually exist without anyone can refute it.

But moon landing is totally different, no one can actually see it or touch it, mostly are old videos with Hollywood production with scripts and all.

If you say NASA send one way unmanned trip, then those are more believable.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 01:51 PM)
Again, you are trying too hard to plotek-plotek your childhood fairytale with buildings and walls that people can see for themselves and touch it too.

There are countless youtube videos where people visit those places, so people don't bother to plotek-plotek it, because it actually exist without anyone can refute it.

But moon landing is totally different, no one can actually see it or touch it, mostly are old videos with Hollywood production with scripts and all.

If you say NASA send one way unmanned trip, then those are more believable.
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Can see can touch are u sure? They cannot be fake images/videos ke? They cannot be vfx n cgi, just like all them fake moon landing videos? Have YOU been there and touch them with your own hands???

Same like today how come we stuck on ISS only 408km aje, how come today we cannot even build 1 building properly? How come something so simple like a game source code oso can be missing?

Fake news man, FAIRY TALES AND FAAAKKKKEEEEEEE NEWSSSS I tell u!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 02:39 PM)
Can see can touch are u sure? They cannot be fake images/videos ke? They cannot be vfx n cgi, just like all them fake moon landing videos? Have YOU been there and touch them with your own hands???

Same like today how come we stuck on ISS only 408km aje, how come today we cannot even build 1 building properly? How come something so simple like a game source code oso can be missing?

Fake news man, FAIRY TALES AND FAAAKKKKEEEEEEE NEWSSSS I tell u!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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If you combined all Apollo space mission traveled, it is approximately 18 million miles, all done within 4 years duration.

A freaking 18,000,000 miles total traveled!

But fail to rescue own astronauts mere 255 miles away, until need to beg Elon Musk to save them after almost 1 year stranded.

Seriously suspicious, math doesn't add up.

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Apollo 7—October 11–22, 1968

The first crewed Apollo space mission was Apollo 7. The three astronauts on Apollo 7 were Walter Schirra, Jr., Donn Eisele, and Walter Cunningham. They spent 10 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds in space. Apollo 7 completed 163 orbits around Earth, traveling 4,546,918.3 miles.

Apollo 8—December 21–27, 1968

Apollo 8 was the first to fly around the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 8 were William Anders, Frank Borman, and James Lovell, Jr. They spent 6 days, 3 hours, and 42 seconds in space. Apollo 8 completed 10 orbits around Earth, traveling 579,606.9 miles.

Apollo 9—March 3–13, 1969

Apollo 9 tested the Lunar Module in Earth orbit. The three astronauts on Apollo 9 were James McDivitt, David Scott, and Russell Schweickart. They spent 10 days, 1 hour, and 54 seconds in space. Apollo 9 completed 151 orbits around Earth, traveling 4,214,543 miles.

Apollo 10—May 18–26, 1969

Apollo 10 was the rehearsal for the first Moon landing. The three astronauts on Apollo 10 were Thomas Stafford, John Young, and Eugene Cernan. They spent 8 days, 23 minutes, and 23 seconds in space. Apollo 10 completed 31 orbits around Earth, traveling 829,437.5 miles.

Apollo 11—July 16–24, 1969

Apollo 11 was the first mission to land and walk on the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 11 were Neil Armstrong, Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, and Michael Collins. Armstrong and Aldrin each spent a total of 2 hours and 32 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 8 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 35 seconds in space and traveled a total of 953,054 miles. “The Eagle has landed…”— Astronaut Neil Armstrong as the Apollo 11 Lunar Module landed on the Moon. “…one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind”— Astronaut Neil Armstrong as he stepped onto the Moon for the first time.

Apollo 12—November 14–24, 1969

Apollo 12 was the first precision landing on the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 12 were Charles Conrad, Alan Bean, and Richard Gordon. Conrad and Bean each spent a total of 7 hours and 27 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 10 days, 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 25 seconds in space and traveled 952,354 miles.

Apollo 13—April 11–17, 1970

Apollo 13 survived an oxygen tank explosion. The three astronauts on Apollo 13 were James Lovell, Jr., Fred Haise, Jr., and Jack Swigert. They spent 5 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes, and 41 seconds in space. Apollo 13 completed 1.5 orbits around Earth, traveling 622,268 miles. “Houston, we’ve had a problem…”—Astronaut Jack Swigert

Apollo 14—January 31–February 9, 1971

Apollo 14 was the first Moon landing in the lunar highlands. The three astronauts on Apollo 14 were Alan B. Shepard, Jr., Edgar D. Mitchell, and Stuart A. Roosa. Shepard and Mitchell each spent a total of 9 hours and 35 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 9 days and 2 seconds in space and traveled 1,150,321 miles.

Apollo 15—July 26–August 7, 1971

Apollo 15 was the first mission to use the lunar rover. The three astronauts on Apollo 15 were David Scott, James Irwin, and Alfred Worden. Scott and Irwin each spent 18 hours and 40 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 12 days, 17 hours, and 12 minutes in space and traveled 1,274,137 miles.

Apollo 16—April 16–27, 1972

Apollo 16 spent their mission exploring the lunar highlands. The three astronauts on Apollo 16 were John Young, Charles Duke, and Thomas Mattingly. Young and Duke each spent a total of 20 hours and 15 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 11 days, 1 hour, and 51 minutes in space and traveled 1,391,550 miles.

Apollo 17—December 7–19, 1972

Apollo 17 was the last mission to walk on the Moon. The three astronauts were Eugene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt, and Ron Evans. Cernan and Schmitt each spent a total of 22 hours and 5 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 12 days, 13 hours, and 52 minutes in space and traveled 1,484,933.8 miles.

Facts About the Moon and Space Travel

A total of 12 astronauts walked on the Moon. The Moon has had a total of 24 human visitors. The Moon’s average distance to Earth is 238,855 miles.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 03:09 PM)
If you combined all Apollo space mission traveled, it is approximately 18 million miles, all done within 4 years duration.

A freaking 18,000,000 miles total traveled!

But fail to rescue own astronauts mere 255 miles away, until need to beg Elon Musk to save them after almost 1 year stranded.

Seriously suspicious, math doesn't add up.

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Dude, I'm agreeing with you, how come u macam dun understand wan? 🤣🤣🤣

Of coz suspicious lah, just like last time we can build the pyramids or the great wall but today cannot even build 1 building properly. Somemore something simple like a game source code can say missing.

Fairy tales and fake news... FAIRY TALES AND FAAAKKKKEEEEEEE NEWSSSS yohhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 03:17 PM)
Dude, I'm agreeing with you, how come u macam dun understand wan? 🤣🤣🤣

Of coz suspicious lah, just like last time we can build the pyramids or the great wall but today cannot even build 1 building properly. Somemore something simple like a game source code can say missing.

Fairy tales and fake news... FAIRY TALES AND FAAAKKKKEEEEEEE NEWSSSS yohhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Nop, you are trying hard to plotek-plotek it by using others as comparison, a useless attempt, I might add.

Replying to you is like talking to PuAS pak lebai, at least they don't tunggang "science".

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Which citizen wanna see gov waste money send human to rock ball in today age, dumbass betul si ts
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If you believe the Moon landings are fake, so be it. Don't have to go around convincing others to believe you.
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Overwhelming majority are convinced that human moon landing is fake. Why are you not convinced by that then?
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 03:31 PM)
Nop, you are trying hard to plotek-plotek it by using others as comparison, a useless attempt, I might add.

Replying to you is like talking to PuAS pak lebai, at least they don't tunggang "science".
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Aiyohhh... dun agree with u cannot, agree with u also cannot. Apa lu mau sebenarnya? 😵

Wat useless comparison? Correct wat... last time we can land on moon, today we even stuck on iss. Same like last time we can build pyramids and the great wall, today we can't even build 1 building properly. Somemore something so simple like a game source code oso can be missing?

Ya man I so totally agree with you, its FAKE NEWSSSSS yoh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 04:00 PM)
Overwhelming majority are convinced that human moon landing is fake. Why are you not convinced by that then?
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Because I am not influenced by the majority? doh.gif
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 04:00 PM)
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Majority kah? Based on fact pull from backside ah?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ May 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
To be fair, 60s Moon Landing is not merely tech race.

It is a mad race between 2 superpowers to expend everything including human life for only 1 thing, national pride.

Nobody will do a crew missions ever at such scale and so abruptly when there is no followup plan. You cant colonize it anyway.
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Yes this is easily overlooked. It's always about political willpower
Now that china is aiming for the moon, murika must one-up them
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 15 2025, 04:30 PM)
Yes this is easily overlooked. It's always about political willpower
Now that china is aiming for the moon, murika must one-up them
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US already asked China not to land or explore at their site, trololol.

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Majority kah? Based on fact pull from backside ah?
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Look at the poll result la. You blind or you stupid or both?
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Yes this is easily overlooked. It's always about political willpower
Now that china is aiming for the moon, murika must one-up them
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The far bigger concern is the AI race. Both compete over something that ends humanity.
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Telemetry Data: NASA tracked every second of Apollo missions. Even the Soviet Union — America’s Cold War rival — tracked the mission and never disputed the landing.

Moon Rocks: 382 kg of lunar material was brought back and shared with researchers worldwide — confirmed to be non-Earth origin.

Retroreflectors: Apollo 11, 14, and 15 left mirrors on the Moon. You can bounce lasers off them even today from Earth-based observatories.

Independent Tracking: Countries like Australia (Parkes Observatory) and even amateur astronomers tracked Apollo in real time.

Photos from orbit: NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) has taken pictures of the Apollo landing sites showing footpaths and rover tracks.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 05:59 PM)
Look at the poll result la. You blind or you stupid or both?
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since when /k is indicative of general population?

you mabuk todi or ketum?
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QUOTE(11c @ May 15 2025, 06:05 PM)
Telemetry Data: NASA tracked every second of Apollo missions. Even the Soviet Union — America’s Cold War rival — tracked the mission and never disputed the landing.

Moon Rocks: 382 kg of lunar material was brought back and shared with researchers worldwide — confirmed to be non-Earth origin.

Retroreflectors: Apollo 11, 14, and 15 left mirrors on the Moon. You can bounce lasers off them even today from Earth-based observatories.

Independent Tracking: Countries like Australia (Parkes Observatory) and even amateur astronomers tracked Apollo in real time.

Photos from orbit: NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) has taken pictures of the Apollo landing sites showing footpaths and rover tracks.
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Shh...stupid ppl would always be stupid.

Doesn't matter how convincing the proofs that you listed out are.
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QUOTE(11c @ May 15 2025, 06:05 PM)
Telemetry Data: NASA tracked every second of Apollo missions. Even the Soviet Union — America’s Cold War rival — tracked the mission and never disputed the landing.

Moon Rocks: 382 kg of lunar material was brought back and shared with researchers worldwide — confirmed to be non-Earth origin.

Retroreflectors: Apollo 11, 14, and 15 left mirrors on the Moon. You can bounce lasers off them even today from Earth-based observatories.

Independent Tracking: Countries like Australia (Parkes Observatory) and even amateur astronomers tracked Apollo in real time.

Photos from orbit: NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) has taken pictures of the Apollo landing sites showing footpaths and rover tracks.
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I only believe in unmanned landing where they place those retroreflectors, the rest is simply fabricated to justify American taxpayers NASA over bloated budget.

They can only go there when camera quality is worse than your average potato cam.
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me got ignored oledi? So kesian... somemore I support moon landing was fake weiii, just like the pyramids or the great wall or the missing source codes... cry.gif

QUOTE(dishwasher @ May 15 2025, 11:37 AM)
Why do people still want to engage with these nutjobs? Not like you get anything out of it. Someone said they'd only believe if you threw them out of the airlock. Methinks they'll probably think it's a vacuum chamber on earth, with some magic, gravity blocking stone in the flooring.

You can't win. Just ignore. Whoever resurrected this thread reallyyy NBTD.
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See bro... sometimes if u hv some free time, its bloody fun to engage these kind of ppl for entertainment, seriously. See la, the moment you flip their argument back at them, see how they go apeshit about it rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(11c @ May 15 2025, 06:05 PM)
Telemetry Data: NASA tracked every second of Apollo missions. Even the Soviet Union — America’s Cold War rival — tracked the mission and never disputed the landing.

Moon Rocks: 382 kg of lunar material was brought back and shared with researchers worldwide — confirmed to be non-Earth origin.

Retroreflectors: Apollo 11, 14, and 15 left mirrors on the Moon. You can bounce lasers off them even today from Earth-based observatories.

Independent Tracking: Countries like Australia (Parkes Observatory) and even amateur astronomers tracked Apollo in real time.

Photos from orbit: NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) has taken pictures of the Apollo landing sites showing footpaths and rover tracks.
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Which part of your thesis proved that humans were there?

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Which part of your thesis proved that humans were there?
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Look at the poll result la. You blind or you stupid or both?
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Gosh this tered 19 pages. Lol
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They are not thesis, they are facts.
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lol

was referring to his long writeup as a thesis

and ayem not disputing the reflectors yeda2

ayem disputing HOOMAN landing

why everything you type aso wrong one? lol
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 07:47 PM)
me got ignored oledi? So kesian... somemore I support moon landing was fake weiii, just like the pyramids or the great wall or the missing source codes...  cry.gif
See bro... sometimes if u hv some free time, its bloody fun to engage these kind of ppl for entertainment, seriously. See la, the moment you flip their argument back at them, see how they go apeshit about it  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

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Lol, crywolf like you who compared fake human landing to real wall and real pyramid which millions people have visited, watch, and touch, is an insult to your own intelligence dei, that's why I don't bother to keep replying to you.

How many emoticons you use also will not fake your pathetic attempt to troll me, keep on believing your childish comparison.

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They are not thesis, they are facts.
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The real hard fact is NASA can't even rescue their stranded astronauts 255 miles away, until need to beg Elon Musk for help.

But if you combined all Apollo space mission traveled, it is approximately 18 million miles, all done within 4 years duration.

Can do a freaking 18,000,000 miles from 1969 to 1972, but year 2024, can't do shait, only proof is worse than your average potato cams quality.

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Apollo 7—October 11–22, 1968

The first crewed Apollo space mission was Apollo 7. The three astronauts on Apollo 7 were Walter Schirra, Jr., Donn Eisele, and Walter Cunningham. They spent 10 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds in space. Apollo 7 completed 163 orbits around Earth, traveling 4,546,918.3 miles.

Apollo 8—December 21–27, 1968

Apollo 8 was the first to fly around the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 8 were William Anders, Frank Borman, and James Lovell, Jr. They spent 6 days, 3 hours, and 42 seconds in space. Apollo 8 completed 10 orbits around Earth, traveling 579,606.9 miles.

Apollo 9—March 3–13, 1969

Apollo 9 tested the Lunar Module in Earth orbit. The three astronauts on Apollo 9 were James McDivitt, David Scott, and Russell Schweickart. They spent 10 days, 1 hour, and 54 seconds in space. Apollo 9 completed 151 orbits around Earth, traveling 4,214,543 miles.

Apollo 10—May 18–26, 1969

Apollo 10 was the rehearsal for the first Moon landing. The three astronauts on Apollo 10 were Thomas Stafford, John Young, and Eugene Cernan. They spent 8 days, 23 minutes, and 23 seconds in space. Apollo 10 completed 31 orbits around Earth, traveling 829,437.5 miles.

Apollo 11—July 16–24, 1969

Apollo 11 was the first mission to land and walk on the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 11 were Neil Armstrong, Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, and Michael Collins. Armstrong and Aldrin each spent a total of 2 hours and 32 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 8 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 35 seconds in space and traveled a total of 953,054 miles. “The Eagle has landed…”— Astronaut Neil Armstrong as the Apollo 11 Lunar Module landed on the Moon. “…one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind”— Astronaut Neil Armstrong as he stepped onto the Moon for the first time.

Apollo 12—November 14–24, 1969

Apollo 12 was the first precision landing on the Moon. The three astronauts on Apollo 12 were Charles Conrad, Alan Bean, and Richard Gordon. Conrad and Bean each spent a total of 7 hours and 27 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 10 days, 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 25 seconds in space and traveled 952,354 miles.

Apollo 13—April 11–17, 1970

Apollo 13 survived an oxygen tank explosion. The three astronauts on Apollo 13 were James Lovell, Jr., Fred Haise, Jr., and Jack Swigert. They spent 5 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes, and 41 seconds in space. Apollo 13 completed 1.5 orbits around Earth, traveling 622,268 miles. “Houston, we’ve had a problem…”—Astronaut Jack Swigert

Apollo 14—January 31–February 9, 1971

Apollo 14 was the first Moon landing in the lunar highlands. The three astronauts on Apollo 14 were Alan B. Shepard, Jr., Edgar D. Mitchell, and Stuart A. Roosa. Shepard and Mitchell each spent a total of 9 hours and 35 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 9 days and 2 seconds in space and traveled 1,150,321 miles.

Apollo 15—July 26–August 7, 1971

Apollo 15 was the first mission to use the lunar rover. The three astronauts on Apollo 15 were David Scott, James Irwin, and Alfred Worden. Scott and Irwin each spent 18 hours and 40 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 12 days, 17 hours, and 12 minutes in space and traveled 1,274,137 miles.

Apollo 16—April 16–27, 1972

Apollo 16 spent their mission exploring the lunar highlands. The three astronauts on Apollo 16 were John Young, Charles Duke, and Thomas Mattingly. Young and Duke each spent a total of 20 hours and 15 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 11 days, 1 hour, and 51 minutes in space and traveled 1,391,550 miles.

Apollo 17—December 7–19, 1972

Apollo 17 was the last mission to walk on the Moon. The three astronauts were Eugene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt, and Ron Evans. Cernan and Schmitt each spent a total of 22 hours and 5 minutes on the surface of the Moon. All three astronauts spent 12 days, 13 hours, and 52 minutes in space and traveled 1,484,933.8 miles.

Facts About the Moon and Space Travel

A total of 12 astronauts walked on the Moon. The Moon has had a total of 24 human visitors. The Moon’s average distance to Earth is 238,855 miles.

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since when /k is indicative of general population?

you mabuk todi or ketum?
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no nid to go on personal attack la

its a fact that majority of ktarts voted the way it did. You are the minority here. Suck it up like a man. Owait ur not. lol
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Lol, crywolf like you who compared fake human landing to real wall and real pyramid which millions people have visited, watch, and touch, is an insult to your own intelligence dei, that's why I don't bother to keep replying to you.

How many emoticons you use also will not fake your pathetic attempt to troll me, keep on believing your childish comparison.
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eh, I was agreeing with you weiii... dun fall victim to fake news brah! That great wall and those pyramids are not real I tell u, all the pics and videos are fake props n cgi yoh!

I mean, like, have YOU seen and touch them with your hands before? Have you gone and check the entire length of the great wall or just a section of it? U dunno if the rest of the wall are real or props yoh! Or the pyramids, have you seen and touched them before, have you checked the insides to confirm if its real or just empty wood panels? How come we can build them last time but today we can't even build 1 building properly? Must be FAKE NEWS yohhh!!!

Just like the moon landings, cannot simply believe all the videos and pictures okeyyyyyyy... 🤣🤣🤣

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eh, I was agreeing with you weiii... dun fall victim to fake news brah! That great wall and those pyramids are not real I tell u, all the pics and videos are fake props n cgi yoh!

I mean, like, have YOU seen and touch them with your hands before? Have you gone and check the entire length of the great wall or just a section of it? U dunno if the rest of the wall are real or props yoh! Or the pyramids, have you seen and touched them before, have you checked the insides to confirm if its real or just empty wood panels?

Just like the moon landings, cannot simply believe all the videos and pictures okeyyyyyyy...  🤣🤣🤣
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Trying hard to compared fake astronauts moon landing with real walls and pyramids is retarded.

Ayam believe millions of people who visited those places with high definition quality video over fake potato cams black and white moon landing video.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 08:43 PM)
Trying hard to compared fake astronauts moon landing with real walls and pyramids is retarded.

Ayam believe millions of people who visited those places with high definition quality video over fake potato cams black and white moon landing video.
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but but but... how come we cannot build the pyramids or great wall today? Come on man, we can build the pyramids and great wall with primitive technology hundreds & thousands of years ago, how come today technology so advanced but we cannot replicate the great wall and pyramids? The real hard fact is we cannot even build ONE building properly oi!

https://apnews.com/article/thailand-bangkok...2ff5d83f9362438

So? They must be fake kan... just like the fake moon landings, kan? Fake news man... FAKEEE NEWSSSSS yoh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 08:57 PM)
but but but... how come we cannot build the pyramids or great wall today? Come on man, we can build the pyramids and great wall with primitive technology hundreds & thousands of years ago, how come today technology so advanced but we cannot replicate the great wall and pyramids? The real hard fact is we cannot even build ONE building properly oi!

https://apnews.com/article/thailand-bangkok...2ff5d83f9362438

So? They must be fake kan... just like the fake moon landings, kan? Fake news man... FAKEEE NEWSSSSS yoh!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Malaysia built Warisan Merdeka tower, KLCC, so what?

The only thing that puzzled scientists is how primitive people could build those amazing buildings with limited advancement in technology, knowledge, and how it still can stand strong even after centuries and millennium has passed.

But for you to compare those with fake potato cam landing is hilarious.

Because current technology should have easily replicated previous success if they were real.

Like all great mystery in this world, including UFO, Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, all use shitty video quality like moon landing as proof, funny right?

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 09:21 PM)
Malaysia built Warisan Merdeka tower, KLCC, so what?

The only thing that puzzled scientists is how primitive people could build those amazing buildings with limited advancement in technology, knowledge, and how it still can stand strong even after centuries and millennium has passed.

But for you to compare those with fake potato cam landing is hilarious.

Because current technology should have easily replicated previous success if they were real.

Like all great mystery in this world, including UFO, Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, all use shitty video quality like moon landing as proof, funny right?
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Deswai loh, u oso said current technology should have easily replicated previous success if they were real wat, so why we can't replicate the great wall and the pyramids today?

Lemme tell you this unbelievable fact, you ready? Pssttt... like the fake moon landings, they're not real n fake news oso... cayalah, just like how u caya fake moon landings yo! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 09:26 PM)
Deswai loh, u oso said current technology should have easily replicated previous success if they were real wat, so why we can't replicate the great wall and the pyramids today?

Lemme tell you this unbelievable fact, you ready? Pssttt... like the fake moon landings, they're not real n fake news oso... cayalah, just like how u caya fake moon landings yo!  🤣🤣🤣
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Actually we can, we already have much better buildings like KLCC and Warisan Merdeka tower.
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Actually we can, we already have much better buildings like KLCC and Warisan Merdeka tower.
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So why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall if current technology should have easily replicated previous success? Eh tell u what, since klcc and warisan merdeka is better, then the pyramids and the great wall should be EASIER to build kan... kan? I mean, the great wall is ONLY about 21,196km long if include all sections. So why can't we build the pyramids or the great wall today?

I tell you man, just like the fake moon landings or cataclysm game source code missing, it's all FAKE NEWSSS yo! 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 09:42 PM)
So why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall if current technology should have easily replicated previous success? Eh tell u what, since klcc and warisan merdeka is better, then the pyramids and the great wall should be EASIER to build kan... kan? I mean, the great wall is ONLY about 21,196km long if include all sections. So why can't we build the pyramids or the great wall today?

I tell you man, just like the fake moon landings or cataclysm game source code missing, it's all FAKE NEWSSS yo! 🤣🤣🤣
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Because those have no uses in modern settings, we no longer have Pharoah to be buried, and walls are completely useless in modern warfare.

But NASA fail to rescue their astronauts few hundred miles away despite much better technology advancement in all field.

Again, for you to compare those to NASA fake moon landing shows how pathetic your attempt is to plotek-plotek it desperately, so hilarious.

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 09:42 PM)
So why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall if current technology should have easily replicated previous success? Eh tell u what, since klcc and warisan merdeka is better, then the pyramids and the great wall should be EASIER to build kan... kan? I mean, the great wall is ONLY about 21,196km long if include all sections. So why can't we build the pyramids or the great wall today?

I tell you man, just like the fake moon landings or cataclysm game source code missing, it's all FAKE NEWSSS yo! 🤣🤣🤣
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Why are you disputing something physical that everyone can see, touch and smell?

It is simply the wrong analogy to use in comparison to only some grainy photos of 60 yrs ago as proof of existence and not replicable ever since.




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QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 10:06 PM)
Because those have no uses in modern settings, we no longer have Pharoah and walls are completely useless in modern warfare.

Again, for you to compare those to fake moon landing shows how pathetic your attempt to plotek-plotek is so funny.
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eh then man landing on moon have what use today ah? We dun put man on moon today is because we cannot or because there's no use??? brows.gif

Dammit, waiii u dun believe the pyramids and great wall are fake news lah? Fak man, moon landings u dun believe, pyramids and great wall u believe eventhough all those are high quality cgi n photoshops. Dammit... I LOVE when ppl say dowan to reply but tak puas hati keep replying 🤣🤣🤣
QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 08:23 PM)
Lol, crywolf like you who compared fake human landing to real wall and real pyramid which millions people have visited, watch, and touch, is an insult to your own intelligence dei, that's why I don't bother to keep replying to you.

How many emoticons you use also will not fake your pathetic attempt to troll me, keep on believing your childish comparison.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 10:07 PM)
Why are you disputing something physical that everyone can see, touch and smell?

It is simply the wrong analogy to use in comparison to only some grainy photos of 60 yrs ago as proof of existence and not replicable ever since.
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Who is "everyone"? Have YOU seen and touched the pyramids or the great wall with your own eyes and hands? No? Then how do you know they're real and not fake vfx/cgi? If they're real, then why have we not replicated the pyramids and the great wall today?

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:13 PM)
eh then man landing on moon have what use today ah? We dun put man on moon today is because we cannot or because there's no use???  brows.gif

Dammit, waiii u dun believe the pyramids and great wall are fake news lah? Fak man, moon landings u dun believe, pyramids and great wall u believe eventhough all those are high quality cgi n photoshops. Dammit... I LOVE when ppl say dowan to reply but tak puas hati keep replying  🤣🤣🤣
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Then why NASA have to beg Elon Musk to save their astronauts 254 miles away from Earth? That is pathetic.

How can I believe NASA made 18,000,000 million miles round-trip around Moon and Earth from year 69 to 72 but failed miserably to save their astronauts 254 miles away from Earth in year 2024?

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:17 PM)
Who is "everyone"? Have YOU seen and touched the pyramids or the great wall with your own eyes and hands? No? Then how do you know they're real and not fake vfx/cgi? If they're real, then why have we not replicated the pyramids and the great wall today?
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Yes I have. So your point is nullified.
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Yes I have. So your point is nullified.
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Have you actually walked and checked the entire length of the great wall and confirmed it is 21,196km? How you know if only that particular section you're on is real and the rest are propaganda fake news? Have you checked inside the wall if they're not just bricks with hollow interior? If real then why are we not able to replicate it today?

Think like how you think of the moon landings man, its all fake news yohhh!!! flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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Then why NASA have to beg Elon Musk to save their astronauts 254 miles away from Earth? That is pathetic.

How can I believe NASA made 18,000,000 million miles round-trip around Moon and Earth from year 69 to 72 but failed miserably to save their astronauts 254 miles away from Earth in year 2024?
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Dude, I oledi said i same boat with you there's no moon landings yoh! Whyyy u keep telling me all these fake moon landings oh. Eh btw, can answer ah, man landing on moon have what use today ah?

Demmm... masih lagi tak puas hati yesssss!!! rclxm9.gif
QUOTE(smsid @ May 15 2025, 08:23 PM)
Lol, crywolf like you who compared fake human landing to real wall and real pyramid which millions people have visited, watch, and touch, is an insult to your own intelligence dei, that's why I don't bother to keep replying to you.

How many emoticons you use also will not fake your pathetic attempt to troll me, keep on believing your childish comparison.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:26 PM)
Have you actually walked and checked the entire length of the great wall and confirmed it is 21,196km? How you know if only that particular section you're on is real and the rest are propaganda fake news? Have you checked inside the wall if they're not just bricks with hollow interior? If real then why are we not able to replicate it today?

Think like how you think of the moon landings man, its all fake news yohhh!!!  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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There is no need to walk the entire length just to prove it exists if that was your initial contention. I have touched and kissed the pyramids and the great wall. I have proven you what you asked for.

On the other hand, have you done the same for the moon? Could you even?


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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 10:30 PM)
There is no need to walk the entire length just to prove it exists if that was your initial contention. I have touched and kissed the pyramids and the great wall. I have proven you what you asked for.

On the other hand, have you done the same for the moon? Could you even?
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hey u got read the thread or not? How can u missed out that I believe moon landings are fake news?

You didn't checked the entire length? You got scammed liao brah! console.gif Did you check the inside of the wall and the pyramids to see if it's real or just bricks propped by scaffoldings? No? Then how do you know its real man! Oh hey, do you even know if you went to chyna/egypt or the plane just played some cgi n tricked you into believing u went there and the whole place is a giant studio?

Like, come on man, 50-60 years ago they oledi done that for the moon landings, you should know today's advanced technology it would be easier n bigger scale n more realistic rite??? Like, common sense lah, just like we not able to make moon landings today, if the pyramids and the great wall are real, then why can't we build them today??? Fake newsss yohhh!!! flex.gif
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hey u got read the thread or not? How can u missed out that I believe moon landings are fake news?

You didn't checked the entire length? You got scammed liao brah!  console.gif  Did you check the inside of the wall and the pyramids to see if it's real or just bricks propped by scaffoldings? No? Then how do you know its real man! Oh hey, do you even know if you went to chyna/egypt or the plane just played some cgi n tricked you into believing u went there and the whole place is a giant studio?

Like, come on man, 50-60 years ago they oledi done that for the moon landings, you should know today's advanced technology it would be easier n bigger scale n more realistic rite??? Like, common sense lah, just like we not able to make moon landings today, if the pyramids and the great wall are real, then why can't we build them today??? Fake newsss yohhh!!!  flex.gif
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Ok. Since you have stated your stand that moon landings are fake, it is now loud and clear. Everything else is just noise.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 10:44 PM)
Ok. Since you have stated your stand that moon landings are fake, it is now loud and clear. Everything else is just noise.
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Definitely! Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, because we're unable to land there again today, just like we're unable to build them again! flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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Definitely! Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, because we're unable to land there again today, just like we're unable to build them again!  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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The pyramids and great wall are real. Nobody says they are fake except you. It is really time to sober up.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 10:30 PM)
Dude, I oledi said i same boat with you there's no moon landings yoh! Whyyy u keep telling me all these fake moon landings oh. Eh btw, can answer ah, man landing on moon have what use today ah?

Demmm... masih lagi tak puas hati yesssss!!!  rclxm9.gif
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I already stopped replying to you earlier, but you keep on replying to me again and ask why I ignored you.

Are you a freaking clown who can't keep their act straight?

Because Moon is a perfect launching pad to test our latest technology advancement and to further conduct testing before heading to Mars which is 140 million miles away.

All Apollo space missions traveled miles combined didn't even come close to 20% of Mars distance.

So no point of dreaming about planet Mars 180 million miles away if can't even save astronauts stranded 254 miles away.
QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 07:47 PM)
me got ignored oledi? So kesian... somemore I support moon landing was fake weiii, just like the pyramids or the great wall or the missing source codes...  cry.gif
See bro... sometimes if u hv some free time, its bloody fun to engage these kind of ppl for entertainment, seriously. See la, the moment you flip their argument back at them, see how they go apeshit about it  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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The pyramids and great wall are real. Nobody says they are fake except you. It is really time to sober up.
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Eh, I oledi said the moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall wat. Can we replicate the pyramids and the great wall today? No? Then how can they be real? You didn't check the entire length of the great wall, u oso didn't check the inside of the great wall n the pyramids to see if they're real or bricks with scaffoldings. Liddat how to know they're real???

Brah, you had been a brainwashed victim of fake news, just like the moon landings fake news yohhh! console.gif
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Eh, I oledi said the moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall wat. Can we replicate the pyramids and the great wall today? No? Then how can they be real? You didn't check the entire length of the great wall, u oso didn't check the inside of the great wall n the pyramids to see if they're real or bricks with scaffoldings. Liddat how to know they're real???

Brah, you had been a brainwashed victim of fake news, just like the moon landings fake news yohhh!  console.gif
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Sober up. No need to go full retard over a discussion tered. Think about your family who may be worried about your mental health.

Peace out.
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Sober up. No need to go full retard over a discussion tered. Think about your family who may be worried about your mental health.

Peace out.
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I sincerely hope you realize the truth about the pyramids and the great wall, just like the fake moon landings console.gif
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I sincerely hope you realize the truth about the pyramids and the great wall, just like the fake moon landings  console.gif
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Nah. You just need to earn more money to visit those places to confirm they are real. It is on you, not me.
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I already stopped replying to you earlier, but you keep on replying to me again and ask why I ignored you.

Are you a freaking clown who can't keep their act straight?

Because Moon is a perfect launching pad to test our latest technology advancement and to further conduct testing before heading to Mars which is 140 million miles away.

All Apollo space missions traveled miles combined didn't even come close to 20% of Mars distance.

So no point of dreaming about planet Mars 180 million miles away if can't even save astronauts stranded 254 miles away.
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Moon perfect launching pad etc etc etc... but all these already automated rite? So what has that got to do with man landing there? So landing man on moon have what use today?

Deswai la, how many times do I hv to agree with you, moon landings is fake news since we can't even save astronauts stranded 254 miles away, just like pyramids and the great wall are fake news since we can't even replicate them with today's technology, kan... kan??? flex.gif
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 11:01 PM)
Nah. You just need to earn more money to visit those places to confirm they are real. It is on you, not me.
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Nah, we can't replicate the great wall and the pyramids today, therefore they're fake. They're most likely bricks with scaffoldings inside, you have been fooled just like how nasa fooled us with the fake moon landings
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 11:13 PM)
Nah, we can't replicate the great wall and the pyramids today, therefore they're fake. They're most likely bricks with scaffoldings inside, you have been fooled just like how nasa fooled us with the fake moon landings
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Go see a doctor. You are showing signs of manic depression.
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Seriously brah, you need to think again.

How you know the entire 21,196km is real? Or just the section you're on is real and the rest all propaganda? Did you even walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids? How you know they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know you travelled to china/egypt? What if the plane played some cgi on the windows to fool you into thinking you're flying there but actually goes to a huge island studio to trick you and everyone into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?
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And most importantly, why can't we replicate the great wall and the pyramids today even with so called better & more advanced technology? Therefore they must be fake

See, I'm applying the fake moon conspiracist standard here to the great wall and the pyramids. Hence, the conclusion is, yeah you're right man, moon landings are as fake as the great wall and the pyramids 🤣🤣🤣

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 15 2025, 11:28 PM)
Seriously brah, you need to think again.

How you know the entire 21,196km is real? Or just the section you're on is real and the rest all propaganda? Did you even walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids? How you know they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know you travelled to china/egypt? What if the plane played some cgi on the windows to fool you into thinking you're flying there but actually goes to a huge island studio to trick you and everyone into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?
user posted image

And most importantly, why can't we replicate the great wall and the pyramids today even with so called better & more advanced technology? Therefore they must be fake

See, I'm applying the fake moon conspiracist standard here to the great wall and the pyramids. Hence, the conclusion is, yeah you're right man, moon landings are as fake as the great wall and the pyramids  🤣🤣🤣
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I have said it - go earn more money and visit those places and verify yourself.

But you can never land on the moon to verify a human moon landing even if you are the richest man on earth.




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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2025, 11:45 PM)
I have said it - go earn more money and visit those places and verify yourself.

But you can never land on the moon to verify a human moon landing even if you are the richest man on earth.
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Brahhh... how many times do I need to tell u, moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall yohhh!!!

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

And why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall today? Must be fake news then?

If you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda 🤣🤣🤣

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Brahhh... how many times do I need to tell u, moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall yohhh!!!

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

If you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda  🤣🤣🤣
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Okok whatever rocks your boat. Now stop derailing this tered with your mania.
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Okok whatever rocks your boat. Now stop derailing this tered with your mania.
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I actually agree with you moon landings are fake news, just like the pyramids and great wall are fake news yoh... where got derail oh? flex.gif
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I actually agree with you moon landings are fake news, just like the pyramids and great wall are fake news yoh... where got derail oh?  flex.gif
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Google map, live view, thousands of high-quality videos shared by scientists, documentaries, travelers, and influencers.

Meanwhile, moon landing is very limited to black and white potato cameras.

Go travel there, easy, you don't need NASA fail spaceship to get you to China and Egypt.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 12:34 AM)
Google map, live view, thousands of high-quality videos shared by scientists, documentaries, travelers, and influencers.

Meanwhile, moon landing is very limited to black and white potato cameras.

Go travel there, easy, you don't need NASA fail spaceship to get you to China and Egypt.
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Moon perfect launching pad etc etc etc... but all these already automated rite? So what has that got to do with man landing there? So landing man on moon have what use today?

Deswai la, how many times do I hv to agree with you, moon landings is fake news since we can't even save astronauts stranded 254 miles away, just like pyramids and the great wall are fake news since we can't even replicate them with today's technology, kan... kan???  flex.gif
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So landing man on moon got what use today since everything automated?

Google map? Live view? videos? All fake cgi n photoshop lor. Today's advanced technology even easier to fake photos n high-quality videos la.

You been there n touch the pyramids n the great wall or not?

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

And why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall today? Must be fake news then?

See, if you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda. So repeat after me, "Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!" 🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 16 2025, 12:55 AM)
aiks... masih tak puas hati nak reply ke? Butthurt bertubi2 ke? Nyesssss...  rclxm9.gif
So landing man on moon got what use today since everything automated?

Google map? Live view? videos? All fake cgi n photoshop lor. Today's advanced technology even easier to fake photos n high-quality videos la.

You been there n touch the pyramids n the great wall or not?

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

And why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall today? Must be fake news then?

See, if you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda. So repeat after me, "Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!"  🤣🤣🤣
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You keep repeating questions that I have answered.

Because those have no uses in modern settings, we no longer have Pharoah to be buried, and walls are completely useless in modern warfare.

The Great Wall of China and Egypt Pyramids you can view in Google map, live view, thousands of high-quality videos shared by scientists, documentaries, travelers, and influencers.

Meanwhile, moon landing is very limited to black and white potato cameras.

Go travel there, easy, you don't need NASA fail spaceship to get you to China and Egypt and go inspect it yourself.

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You keep repeating questions that I have answered.

Because those have no uses in modern settings, we no longer have Pharoah to be buried, and walls are completely useless in modern warfare.

Google map, live view, thousands of high-quality videos shared by scientists, documentaries, travelers, and influencers.

Meanwhile, moon landing is very limited to black and white potato cameras.

Go travel there, easy, you don't need NASA fail spaceship to get you to China and Egypt and go inspect it yourself.
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You keep evading questions and not answering yoh. Eh, waiii so butthurt even when I agree with u la, until repeating your posts? Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, betul lah flex.gif
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aiks... masih tak puas hati nak reply ke? Butthurt bertubi2 ke? Nyesssss...  rclxm9.gif
So landing man on moon got what use today since everything automated?

Google map? Live view? videos? All fake cgi n photoshop lor. Today's advanced technology even easier to fake photos n high-quality videos la.

You been there n touch the pyramids n the great wall or not?

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

And why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall today? Must be fake news then?

See, if you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda. So repeat after me, "Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!"  🤣🤣🤣
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lol reported??? Butthurtnyerrr... 🤣

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 16 2025, 01:07 AM)
You keep evading questions and not answering yoh. Eh, waiii so butthurt even when I agree with u la, until repeating your posts? Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, betul lah  flex.gif
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Already answered everything repeatedly, check previous replies.

Clearly you are the worst at trolling by pretending to have selective amnesia when most of your pathetic comparison has been debunked repeatedly.
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Already answered everything repeatedly, check previous replies.

Clearly you are the worst at trolling by pretending to have selective amnesia when most of your pathetic comparison has been debunked repeatedly.
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no lar, where got reply? Come answer la, so landing man on moon got what use today since everything automated?

See, I'm just using the same logic as the fake moon landing conspiracist, why u so butthurt I successfully proved moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall la?

Google map? Live view? videos? All fake cgi n photoshop lor. Today's advanced technology even easier to fake photos n high-quality videos la.

You been there n touch the pyramids n the great wall or not?

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

And why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall today? Must be fake news then?

See, if you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda.

So therefore, repeat after me, "Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!" flex.gif

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Reported again? Ok lor, I stop posting lor. Sigh... why la ppl so butthurt about moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall... sad.gif

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no lar, where got reply? Come answer la, so landing man on moon got what use today since everything automated?

See, I'm just using the same logic as the fake moon landing conspiracist, why u so butthurt I successfully proved moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall la?

Google map? Live view? videos? All fake cgi n photoshop lor. Today's advanced technology even easier to fake photos n high-quality videos la.

You been there n touch the pyramids n the great wall or not?

Have you walked and examined the entire 21,196km?

Have you examine the insides of the great wall and the pyramids to find out if they're real and not just bricks with scaffoldings?

How do you even know if you really travelled to china/egypt and not some huge island studio to trick you and everyone in the plane into thinking you visiting the pyramids or the great wall?

And why can't we replicate the pyramids or the great wall today? Must be fake news then?

See, if you analyze this logically and sensibly like a fake moon landing conspiracist, you'll KNOW with absolute CERTAINTY the great wall and pyramids are fake news just like the moon landings and you had been a victim of propaganda.

So therefore, repeat after me, "Moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!"  flex.gif
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Already answered all of your questions, go back and read it.

Selective amnesia pulak, crywolf ni such a sore loser.

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Already answered all of your questions, go back and read it.

Selective amnesia pulak, crywolf ni such a sore loser.
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It's ok, I stop posting now since some ppl butthurt keep reporting my posts here. No matter what, please remember I agree and support you, moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!!! flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 16 2025, 02:13 AM)
It's ok, I stop posting now since some ppl butthurt keep reporting my posts here. No matter what, please remember I agree and support you, moon landings are as fake as the pyramids and the great wall, cayalah!!!  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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You don't support, your comparison is so retarded.

The Great Wall of China and Egypt Pyramids you can view in Google map, live view, thousands of high-quality videos shared by scientists, documentaries, travelers, and influencers.

Meanwhile, moon landing is very limited to black and white potato cameras, from 53 - 56 years ago

Go travel there, easy, you don't need NASA fail spaceship to get you to China and Egypt and go inspect it yourself if it is real.

Meanwhile the Moon is 770,000 km round-trip, don't need to bother about the Moon landing when astronauts 408 km away from Earth also NASA has to beg Elon Musk to save them.

Must wait A.I. CGI become flawless before more fake landing can happen.
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You don't support, your comparison is so retarded.

The Great Wall of China and Egypt Pyramids you can view in Google map, live view, thousands of high-quality videos shared by scientists, documentaries, travelers, and influencers.

Meanwhile, moon landing is very limited to black and white potato cameras, from 53 - 56 years ago

Go travel there, easy, you don't need NASA fail spaceship to get you to China and Egypt and go inspect it yourself if it is real.

Meanwhile the Moon is 770,000 km round-trip, don't need to bother about the Moon landing when astronauts 408 km away from Earth also NASA has to beg Elon Musk to save them.

Must wait A.I. CGI become flawless before more fake landing can happen.
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bruh, you know how shitty is CGI in 1970s?

got brain please use it lah
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 08:45 AM)
bruh, you know how shitty is CGI in 1970s?

got brain please use it lah
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You use your eye first, I already corrected TS 2 days ago that they use VFX, because CGI effect is nowhere good at that time.

QUOTE(smsid @ May 14 2025, 02:29 PM)
69 computer are still primitive, where got decent CGI during those time, it is mostly VFX.

Already waiting for 53 years, still no one send Man to Moon and Mars surface, maybe they are waiting for A.I. CGI to mature first before can continue the fairy tale as old as time.

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[quote=smsid,May 16 2025, 08:49 AM]
You use your eye first, I already corrected TS 2 days ago that they use VFX, because CGI effect is nowhere good at that time.
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have you seem movie with VFX effect????

just watch the star war series and say if the first three can trick you to think it is real

oh kesian
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post May 16 2025, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 08:52 AM)
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have you seem movie with VFX effect????

just watch the star war series and say if the first three can trick you to think it is real

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Lol, you and crywolf adik beradik ke?

You guys are trying hard to compare it with other unrelated topic, plotek-plotek as usual.

Go Google VFX, many effect can be done with it, especially if you use potato camera, not much effort needed to hide the defects of editing.

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post May 16 2025, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 09:00 AM)
Lol, you and crywolf adik beradik ke?

You guys are trying hard to compare it with other unrelated topic, plotek-plotek as usual.

Go Google VFX, many effect can be done with it, especially if you use potato camera, not much effort needed to hide the defects of editing.
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unless you can show an example of such VFX edited footage which look like real, it is just your BS


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post May 16 2025, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 09:00 AM)
Lol, you and crywolf adik beradik ke?

You guys are trying hard to compare it with other unrelated topic, plotek-plotek as usual.

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Both of them work on different shifts, one logs off and another comes on, if you know what i mean lol.
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post May 16 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 09:02 AM)
unless you can show an example of such VFX edited footage which look like real, it is just your BS
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Go watch old movies then, preferably Stanley Kubrick movie.
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When man invented the car, it had to be controlled manually by a driver.
Now, we have self-driving cars. We call that an advancement in technology.

In the 1960s and 1970s, humans began exploring space. Spacecraft needed to be manually maneuvered by astronauts, unless they were unmanned probes.
Now, we no longer need to manually control most spacecraft.

Similarly, sending humans to the Moon was once necessary to gather information, test equipment, and inspire progress. It was also part of the Cold War competition.

But today, with advanced robotics, satellites, and artificial intelligence, we can explore more, learn more, and go farther without risking human lives.

We did not stop going to the Moon because we could not. We stopped because we found smarter, safer, and more efficient ways to explore space.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 09:09 AM)
Go watch old movies then, preferably Stanley Kubrick movie.
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so now can be movie, so star wars movie VFX not good?

oh kesiannya
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ May 16 2025, 09:11 AM)
When man invented the car, it had to be controlled manually by a driver.
Now, we have self-driving cars. We call that an advancement in technology.

In the 1960s and 1970s, humans began exploring space. Spacecraft needed to be manually maneuvered by astronauts, unless they were unmanned probes.
Now, we no longer need to manually control most spacecraft.

Similarly, sending humans to the Moon was once necessary to gather information, test equipment, and inspire progress. It was also part of the Cold War competition.

But today, with advanced robotics, satellites, and artificial intelligence, we can explore more, learn more, and go farther without risking human lives.

We did not stop going to the Moon because we could not. We stopped because we found smarter, safer, and more efficient ways to explore space.
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Apollo 13 almost go

no the mentioned few space actually go kaboom

therefore, with the advanced of automation, it is hard to justify sending human to moon unless it is for building moon colony
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 09:12 AM)
so now can be movie, so star wars movie VFX not good?

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Go watch Stanley Kubrick Space Odyssey movie, released on year 1968.

Those movies is in color format, much better than your black & white potato cameras used by NASA from 1969 to 1972.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 09:16 AM)
Go watch Stanley Kubrick Space Oddysey movie, released on year 1968.

Those movies is in color format, much better than your black & white potato cameras used by NASA from 1969 to 1972.
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so how is the special effect in star war movie

you can't answer straight question like this?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 09:17 AM)
so how is the special effect in star war movie

you can't answer straight question like this?
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I answer even better than your stupid comparison.

Go watch Stanley Kubrick Space Odyssey movie, released in the year 1968.

Those movie are in color format, much better than your black & white potato cameras used by NASA from 1969 to 1972.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 09:18 AM)
I answer even better than your stupid comparison.

Go watch Stanley Kubrick Space Odyssey movie, released in the year 1968.

Those movie are in color format, much better than your black & white potato cameras used by NASA from 1969 to 1972.
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I'm curious about which black and white NASA video you used for your comparison.
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ May 16 2025, 11:00 AM)
I'm curious about which black and white NASA video you used for your comparison.
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The original footage, not remastered version.

Most in youtube are remastered version.


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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 12:35 PM)
The original footage, not remastered version.

Most in youtube are remastered version.

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Did you know that there are 300 hours of video footage from Apollo 11 to Apollo 17?
Yet, you only examined a 26-second clip and concluded that the missions were fake.
Perhaps you only watched 1-2 hours of the total footage, which is less than 1% of it.
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So now want to land small craft also fail, but 69 can land people??


• Resilience, a lander built by Japan-based company Ispace, attempted to touch down on the moon around 3:17 p.m. ET. But mission failed to land safely, Ispace officials confirmed hours later.

• The exact reasons for the mission’s failure are currently unclear.

• If fully successful, Resilience would have been only the second private-sector lunar lander to make an upright landing on the moon, and the first built outside of the US to do so. It was the second attempt at a soft landing by Ispace, which is headquartered in Tokyo.

• Resilience was one of several robotic landers developed by companies and governments across the world as part of a renewed race to explore the lunar surface.

Earlier this year, two NASA-backed, Texas-based companies — Firefly and Intuitive Machines — each made moon-landing attempts. Firefly’s was the first fully successful effort by a commercial outfit, while Intuitive Machines’ lander tipped on its side.

• NASA was not directly backing this attempt, but Ispace is working with the US space agency on a future lunar mission.

https://edition.cnn.com/science/live-news/m...ispace-06-05-25

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Still arguing about this? Let me give the answer again about why US can’t send man to the moon today

1) Cost

NASA gets about 5% of national budget in the 60’s because US was in a space race with Soviet Union. The American public was supporting the government to spend so much. Today, NASA budget has been cut to so low until they can’t rescue their astronauts and had to rely on Elon Musk. The whole Apollo program if US going to repeat it today will cost US $250 billion. US today can’t afford such spending.

2) Support

The space race was extremely popular in the 50’s and 60’s and the American people was 100% behind it. However, as soon as the Apollo program ends, the support reduces in the 1970s especially when US was facing all sorts of problems with Vietnam wars and civil rights movements. The support for space program rejuvenated in early 80s with their space shuttles but after Challenger explosions, American people don’t really care about their space programs anymore

3) Risk

The 50s and 60s were different era because US was competing with Soviet Union for world dominance. That is why the government and even the public was more tolerant on failure and loss of lives. The whole program was a high risk gamble by NASA. Today after the 2 space shuttle explosions especially after the Challenger disaster, American people are no longer so tolerant about risks. That is why if they want to go back to the moon today, the risk factor has to be a lot lower that the 60s which mean they need to start from scratch

4) Manufacturing capability

Today everyone knows US has lost a lot of their manufacturing capabilities. It’s the same with their space program too. After the Apollo program, a lot of the factories and engineers were changed to the space shuttle program and when the space shut program ended, all the people and factories building rockets and everything needed for the Apollo program is gone. The blueprints might still be available but the capability is gone for decades

5) Technology advancement

There is no way NASA going to use back the same technology as the 1960s if they go back to the moon. So it means, everything starts from the scratch. A lot of clueless people think you can just rebuild the Saturn rockets and just put in current tech.

6) Targets

US going back to the moon program today is called Artemis. The mission today is not simply going back to the moon and stay a shorty while like the Apollo missions. Today the objective is to go to moon and live there for a few weeks or months. It’s not just building new rockets but to build capabilities for humans to live on the moon. This is crucial for future missions to mars programs. That is why, every thing starts from the scratch
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM)

US going back to the moon program today is called Artemis. The mission today is not simply going back to the moon and stay a shorty while like the Apollo missions. Today the objective is to go to moon and live there for a few weeks or months. It’s not just building new rockets but to build capabilities for humans to live on the moon. This is crucial for future missions to mars programs. That is why, every thing starts from the scratch
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"Earlier this year, two NASA-backed, Texas-based companies — Firefly and Intuitive Machines — each made moon-landing attempts. Firefly’s was the first fully successful effort by a commercial outfit, while Intuitive Machines’ lander tipped on its side."

NASA couldnt even get a small craft to land properly.
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PRC and Russia would be first to debunk it if it is fake.
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 6 2025, 12:20 PM)
"Earlier this year, two NASA-backed, Texas-based companies — Firefly and Intuitive Machines — each made moon-landing attempts. Firefly’s was the first fully successful effort by a commercial outfit, while Intuitive Machines’ lander tipped on its side."

NASA couldnt even get a small craft to land properly.
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nasa budget already cut badly for the last few decades lah

thats why they are mostly sending probes

us space program now mostly initiated by private sectors

nasa capabilities already crippled since space shuttle program ends

 

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