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TSKoifreshie
post May 16 2024, 07:33 AM, updated 2y ago

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I was researching on whether if there are legit justifications for putting on EV donuts on an EV against the less pricier non EV tyres.

Read that EV tyres are designed to reduce rolling resistance, higher load and carries internal padding to reduce tyre noise. This will ensure better range, obviously continuous silence and able to withstand the weight of an EV.

Anyone attempted their EVs with non EV tyres? Care to share experience from a range, wear durability and NVH perspective?

P/s not sure if there is already a thread on this topic. If there is, do point me to that thread and admin can close this. Danke!

This post has been edited by Koifreshie: May 16 2024, 07:34 AM
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post May 16 2024, 08:01 AM

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EV tyres is made to withstand the extra weight of the car due to the batteries. It's a safety point here as well... normal tyre might not be able to cope with those rated weight and speed.


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post May 16 2024, 08:13 AM

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Michelin Malaysia – “All Our Tyres Are EV Ready”
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post May 16 2024, 08:25 AM

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I just bought Hankook Ventus prime 4 which is EV certified. got the EV logo printed on the tyres. price wise is cheap. rm280 perdonut for 215/45/17

but I dont use EV tho. lol
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post May 16 2024, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(kira_88 @ May 16 2024, 08:25 AM)
I just bought Hankook Ventus prime 4 which is EV certified. got the EV logo printed on the tyres. price wise is cheap. rm280 perdonut for 215/45/17

but I dont use EV tho. lol
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Well, if the price is right, don't see a reason for not going with them. How are the donuts? Good?
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post May 16 2024, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ May 16 2024, 08:01 AM)
EV tyres is made to withstand the extra weight of the car due to the batteries. It's a safety point here as well... normal tyre might not be able to cope with those rated weight and speed.
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Agree. But I was reviewing some tyre load and speed rating, there is no difference. Hence, my query.

QUOTE(noos @ May 16 2024, 08:13 AM)
I try not to go with Michelins as my experience is that the donuts wear pretty fast given the softer compounds. Been using continentals and bridgestones for quite a while now. If not wrong, continentals have yet to intro EV tyres in Malaysia while bridgestone, I have shared my experience.
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post May 16 2024, 11:00 AM

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running Continental Eco Contact on my EV. its not EV tyre but its said to be fit for EV.

find it abit noisy. too bad e primacy dont have my size
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post May 16 2024, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Koifreshie @ May 16 2024, 10:35 AM)
Well, if the price is right, don't see a reason for not going with them. How are the donuts? Good?
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coming from potenza ree04 I can say an upgrade in comfort and noise level. Dry grip is also excellent, havent tried on wet as currenly drought at my place. road feedback is less vs potenza but since my current priority is comfor so I'm prety much satisfied with the price that I paid.
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post May 16 2024, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(EdEd @ May 16 2024, 11:00 AM)
running Continental Eco Contact on my EV. its not EV tyre but its said to be fit for EV.

find it abit noisy. too bad e primacy dont have my size
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I am assuming that the continentals are not your first set of tyres on the EV. Apart from the noise, any material impact on the range?

QUOTE(kira_88 @ May 16 2024, 12:53 PM)
coming from potenza ree04 I can say an upgrade in comfort and noise level. Dry grip is also excellent, havent tried on wet as currenly drought at my place. road feedback is less vs potenza but since my current priority is comfor so I'm prety much satisfied with the price that I paid.
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Good on you buddy. Always a great feeling money well spent.
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post May 17 2024, 08:23 AM

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It is quite confusing to public. There are 2 kind of EV tire in the market, Pure EV tire and EV compatible tire. Pure EV tire is completely new tech and for EV car exclusively. While EV compatible mean the tire can use in ICE or EV.

Pure EV tire stand advantage of almost all aspects compare to EV compatible tire, except the price.
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post May 17 2024, 09:18 AM

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Hahaha.. Tires manufacturer are damn well happy if you drive EV...

https://www.autoremarketing.com/ar/analysis...-d-power-finds/

The reality is EV tires naturally wear faster due to greater vehicle weight and higher torque.

https://www.automotivedive.com/news/jd-powe...ehicles/711590/

EV tires can wear up to 20% faster than tires on internal-combustion cars and trucks, according to tire supplier Michelin. That’s mainly because EVs are significantly heavier and produce more wheel torque than traditional vehicles.

In addition, aggressive tire wear may worsen an EV’s environmental impact by increasing the amount of polluting tire particulate released.

You save money on no fuel, oil maintenance, but spend more on others like tires. LPPL

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TSKoifreshie
post May 17 2024, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ May 17 2024, 08:23 AM)
It is quite confusing to public. There are 2 kind of EV tire in the market, Pure EV tire and EV compatible tire. Pure EV tire is completely new tech and for EV car exclusively. While EV compatible mean the tire can use in ICE or EV.

Pure EV tire stand advantage of almost all aspects compare to EV compatible tire, except the price.
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Exactly. I am trying to determine if the difference between the 2 is worth the additional moo. My checks thus far seems to show that it is down to the range i.e. EV tyres may be giving higher range vs a non EV tyre with the same load and speed ratings.


QUOTE(littlefire @ May 17 2024, 09:18 AM)
Hahaha.. Tires manufacturer are damn well happy if you drive EV...

https://www.autoremarketing.com/ar/analysis...-d-power-finds/

The reality is EV tires naturally wear faster due to greater vehicle weight and higher torque.

https://www.automotivedive.com/news/jd-powe...ehicles/711590/

EV tires can wear up to 20% faster than tires on internal-combustion cars and trucks, according to tire supplier Michelin. That’s mainly because EVs are significantly heavier and produce more wheel torque than traditional vehicles.

In addition, aggressive tire wear may worsen an EV’s environmental impact by increasing the amount of polluting tire particulate released.

You save money on no fuel, oil maintenance, but spend more on others like tires. LPPL
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Agree to the extent of making more profits. I have seen EVs with more gentle owners using EV tyres up to 50k to 60k km on the same set. That is quite comparable to the conventional tyres on ICE cars. I guess the higher price for EV tyres will stabilize some time in the future as it moves beyond the nascent stage and economies of scale kicks in. We are already observing more tyre brands getting into this.
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post May 19 2024, 10:58 AM

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https://youtu.be/7XhDTPijEvc?si=X4Z_aWE5NESW5YJv

Link to an interesting youtube video. Seems to point towards the fact that it is not necessary to get EV tyres as some UHP tyres with similar load and speed ratings will do the job.

**Don't know how to embed a video hence just the link.**

This post has been edited by Koifreshie: May 20 2024, 07:52 AM
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post May 20 2024, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 17 2024, 09:18 AM)
Hahaha.. Tires manufacturer are damn well happy if you drive EV...

https://www.autoremarketing.com/ar/analysis...-d-power-finds/

The reality is EV tires naturally wear faster due to greater vehicle weight and higher torque.

https://www.automotivedive.com/news/jd-powe...ehicles/711590/

EV tires can wear up to 20% faster than tires on internal-combustion cars and trucks, according to tire supplier Michelin. That’s mainly because EVs are significantly heavier and produce more wheel torque than traditional vehicles.

In addition, aggressive tire wear may worsen an EV’s environmental impact by increasing the amount of polluting tire particulate released.

You save money on no fuel, oil maintenance, but spend more on others like tires. LPPL
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It is better to take a pure EV tire because it should able to last 40k - 50k km in EV car. The current non-EV tire or EV compatible is about 20k - 30k km, some worst cases like iX the non-EV tire worn off below 10k km. Many people do not aware that not only the EV car not only the weight is heavier but the instant torque also peeling off the rubber which make the tyre worn off quicker.
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post May 20 2024, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Koifreshie @ May 19 2024, 11:58 AM)
https://youtu.be/7XhDTPijEvc?si=X4Z_aWE5NESW5YJv

Link to an interesting youtube video. Seems to point towards the fact that it is not necessary to get EV tyres as some UHP tyres with similar load and speed ratings will do the job.

**Don't know how to embed a video hence just the link.**
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UHP will peel rubber even fast, as it is made to provide more traction and better cornering, stopping power compare to normal tires. If want long lasting should wait for proper EV or ECO tires, unless your chasing for performance then no need.
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post May 20 2024, 07:17 PM

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if often 0-100 in 3~5s... uuhp or ev

otherwise normal driving... XL should be good enough

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post May 21 2024, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Koifreshie @ May 19 2024, 10:58 AM)
https://youtu.be/7XhDTPijEvc?si=X4Z_aWE5NESW5YJv

Link to an interesting youtube video. Seems to point towards the fact that it is not necessary to get EV tyres as some UHP tyres with similar load and speed ratings will do the job.

**Don't know how to embed a video hence just the link.**
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HL is just modified a little thing on the existing ICE tire. This is "cost saving" method for tiremaker which can use same method to produce the EV compatible tire (HL is EV compatible, not pure EV).

Similar load and speed rating the ICE tire can be used in EV but the tire will like worn off earlier. Even if the ICE tire being made to last long like 50k km, the grip performance gonna be lower than pure EV tire. Since EV save for maintenance and fuel cost, why can invest a little bit on the EV tire. Btw the EV tire is expected around 30% higher proce than ICE tire but we change only once for 2 or 3 years. If using ICE tire the mileage low that we need to change more frequent. It not only bring more damage to environment but also harm our pocket.


 

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