Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Hospital screw up on Insurance claim

views
     
TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 04:54 PM, updated 2y ago

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,782 posts

Joined: Jul 2022

I was having lunch with colleagues on the other day.

One of them complained about an insurance medical claim

went to do a Guarantee Letter on a medical situation.

then went to hospital, doctor prescribed Medicine A and B.

So the colleague asked the hospital GL can claim both medicine A and B ?

The cashier and pharmacy say can.

Then colleague took back the medicine and consumed all, didn't need to pay.

3 months later, hospital staff call my colleague, said the insurance rejected medicine B but medicine A is ok.

Requested my colleague to pay RM 150 for Medicine B.

My colleague maki hamun the hospital not happy with bad service as their cashier checked with insurance GL say ok.

So what would you do if you are in the colleague shoes?

A) Pay the 150
B) Don't bother la, ignore don't pay and never go back to that hospital.
C) write Complain letter and fight for credit note.

hksgmy
post May 4 2024, 05:03 PM

Doraemon!
*******
Senior Member
7,847 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR.
TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 05:10 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,782 posts

Joined: Jul 2022
QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:03 PM)
What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR.
*
colleague said the hospital cashier called the insurance co, and confirmed can claim.
hksgmy
post May 4 2024, 05:14 PM

Doraemon!
*******
Senior Member
7,847 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 4 2024, 05:10 PM)
colleague said the hospital cashier called the insurance co, and confirmed can claim.
*
You know what they say right? If it ain't in writing, it didn't happen (this is the original saying, now we just say "no video, no talk").
TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 05:16 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,782 posts

Joined: Jul 2022
QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:14 PM)
You know what they say right? If it ain't in writing, it didn't happen (this is the original saying, now we just say "no video, no talk").
*
yeah but how to record the cashier say that?

but fact is then why hospital let my colleague go without paying? means they r confident GL can cover.

which makes me concern.

if next time I thinking my insurance can cover a big expensive operation.

mana tau? 3-6 months later suddenly hospital call to chase bill because say insurance not cover?

I suppose this happens often in the medical fraternity?
hksgmy
post May 4 2024, 05:21 PM

Doraemon!
*******
Senior Member
7,847 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 4 2024, 05:16 PM)
yeah but how to record the cashier say that?

but fact is then why hospital let my colleague go without paying? means they r confident GL can cover.

which makes me concern.

if next time I thinking my insurance can cover a big expensive operation.

mana tau? 3-6 months later suddenly hospital call to chase bill because say insurance not cover?

I suppose this happens often in the medical fraternity?
*
Actually, not really in Singapore.

A lot of what I do is online - and pre-approved LOG as my practice is linked to the national insurance schemes and the major insurance providers. The claimables are very strict. Any surgical tables need to be written clearly, any additionals are clearly listed and itemized, and any medications are issued pursuant to the condition that I'm treating. Experimental drugs (eg certain cancer drugs etc) are not included unless authorized prior, and the whole process is transparent.

Any item that is not clearly listed in the insurance coverage is paid for by the patient. The receipt is then given, usually with a supporting memo & an excerpt of the patient's medical records, and this helps facilitate the claims done by the patient against his own insurance coverage.

It's quite straightforward. None of my nurses will "call up the insurance" for confirmation - it's all online.
knwong
post May 4 2024, 05:25 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,560 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: Shenzhen Bahru


Good hospital staff will know which medicine is claimable and not, they will explain to you why the non-claimable one is recommended so then you decide whether you really need it or not. TS what drug is not claimable anyway?
stanck
post May 4 2024, 05:30 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
81 posts

Joined: May 2011


Which hosp ur friend go lar? Usually pharmacist section doesn't know can claim or not. Not their job
hksgmy
post May 4 2024, 05:34 PM

Doraemon!
*******
Senior Member
7,847 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(stanck @ May 4 2024, 05:30 PM)
Which hosp ur friend go lar? Usually pharmacist section doesn't know can claim or not. Not their job
*
Spot on. It's not their job, and neither is it the cashier's.
cursetheroad01
post May 4 2024, 05:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
55 posts

Joined: Mar 2017
Should have asked your agent to confirm with the company underwriter.
As others said, not the job of the pharmacist nor the hospital. Hospitals can claim whatever from the insurance company but ultimately, it's the insurance company that is approving and pay out the claims.
MrBaba
post May 4 2024, 05:57 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,506 posts

Joined: Apr 2020
QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:21 PM)
Actually, not really in Singapore.

A lot of what I do is online - and pre-approved LOG as my practice is linked to the national insurance schemes and the major insurance providers. The claimables are very strict. Any surgical tables need to be written clearly, any additionals  are clearly listed and itemized, and any medications are issued pursuant to the condition that I'm treating. Experimental drugs (eg certain cancer drugs etc) are not included unless authorized prior, and the whole process is transparent.

Any item that is not clearly listed in the insurance coverage is paid for by the patient. The receipt is then given, usually with a supporting memo & an excerpt of the patient's medical records, and this helps facilitate the claims done by the patient against his own insurance coverage.

It's quite straightforward. None of my nurses will "call up the insurance" for confirmation - it's all online.
*
This is Malaysia bro , very normal for them to call insurance company to ask . Every thing in Mal is not transparent ..
MrBaba
post May 4 2024, 05:58 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,506 posts

Joined: Apr 2020
Yr case is nothing I kena with Sunway hospital . A can claim B also can claim , but doctor did A+B at one go hence cannot claim for B .
jojolicia
post May 4 2024, 06:09 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,922 posts

Joined: Feb 2016
QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 4 2024, 04:54 PM)
I was having lunch with colleagues on the other day.

One of them complained about an insurance medical claim

went to do a Guarantee Letter on a medical situation.

then went to hospital, doctor prescribed Medicine A and B.

So the colleague asked the hospital GL can claim both medicine A and B ?

The cashier and pharmacy say can.

Then colleague took back the medicine and consumed all, didn't need to pay.

3 months later, hospital staff call my colleague, said the insurance rejected medicine B but medicine A is ok.

Requested my colleague to pay RM 150 for Medicine B.

My colleague maki hamun the hospital not happy with bad service as their cashier checked with insurance GL say ok.

So what would you do if you are in the colleague shoes?

A) Pay the 150
B) Don't bother la, ignore don't pay and never go back to that hospital.
C) write Complain letter and fight for credit note.
*
By any chance med B is antidepressants, for issomia, anxiety etc?

Company staff insurance?

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 4 2024, 06:11 PM
SUSrtk74
post May 4 2024, 06:11 PM

;"K]6pKBg;1]U)uSs!eF
******
Senior Member
1,151 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Aboveground


is TS or friend?
Rusty Nail
post May 4 2024, 06:47 PM

Why am I still here?
*******
Senior Member
4,883 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Petaling Jaya



Rm150 jer
If biforti I can understand the pain
RT8081
post May 4 2024, 08:15 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
355 posts

Joined: May 2022

QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:03 PM)
What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR.
*
exactly
kamfoo
post May 4 2024, 08:28 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Junior Member
846 posts

Joined: Nov 2010


What insurance company..?
killerjeya
post May 4 2024, 08:30 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
80 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:03 PM)
What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR.
*
If thats the case, wouldn't take long for hospitals to go bankrupt. Do expensive procedures, let customers take home expensive medication. Later insurance tak mau cover and customer MIA how?
COOLPINK
post May 4 2024, 08:39 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,665 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
2024 and here still need to call up insurance to check whether claimable or not, cannot brain.

Im beginning to think they purposely dun want to come out with a comprehensive list of medicines tat are claimable or not to have gray areas so to reject claims up to their discretion.

Welcome to merehsia......

As for TS question, just pay and get it over with.
Not worth the hassle to fight this one.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: May 4 2024, 08:40 PM
hksgmy
post May 4 2024, 08:43 PM

Doraemon!
*******
Senior Member
7,847 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(killerjeya @ May 4 2024, 08:30 PM)
If thats the case, wouldn't take long for hospitals to go bankrupt. Do expensive procedures, let customers take home expensive medication. Later insurance tak mau cover and customer MIA how?
*
That’s why I said in where I work, it’s clearly written in advance.

2 Pages  1 2 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0164sec    0.53    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 14th December 2025 - 11:43 AM