Hospital screw up on Insurance claim
Hospital screw up on Insurance claim
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May 4 2024, 04:54 PM, updated 2y ago
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I was having lunch with colleagues on the other day. One of them complained about an insurance medical claim went to do a Guarantee Letter on a medical situation. then went to hospital, doctor prescribed Medicine A and B. So the colleague asked the hospital GL can claim both medicine A and B ? The cashier and pharmacy say can. Then colleague took back the medicine and consumed all, didn't need to pay. 3 months later, hospital staff call my colleague, said the insurance rejected medicine B but medicine A is ok. Requested my colleague to pay RM 150 for Medicine B. My colleague maki hamun the hospital not happy with bad service as their cashier checked with insurance GL say ok. So what would you do if you are in the colleague shoes? A) Pay the 150 B) Don't bother la, ignore don't pay and never go back to that hospital. C) write Complain letter and fight for credit note. |
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May 4 2024, 05:03 PM
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What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR. kurangak, Buffalo Soldier, and 7 others liked this post
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May 4 2024, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:03 PM) What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR. colleague said the hospital cashier called the insurance co, and confirmed can claim. |
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May 4 2024, 05:14 PM
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May 4 2024, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:14 PM) You know what they say right? If it ain't in writing, it didn't happen (this is the original saying, now we just say "no video, no talk"). yeah but how to record the cashier say that? but fact is then why hospital let my colleague go without paying? means they r confident GL can cover. which makes me concern. if next time I thinking my insurance can cover a big expensive operation. mana tau? 3-6 months later suddenly hospital call to chase bill because say insurance not cover? I suppose this happens often in the medical fraternity? Christopher_LKL liked this post
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May 4 2024, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 4 2024, 05:16 PM) yeah but how to record the cashier say that? Actually, not really in Singapore.but fact is then why hospital let my colleague go without paying? means they r confident GL can cover. which makes me concern. if next time I thinking my insurance can cover a big expensive operation. mana tau? 3-6 months later suddenly hospital call to chase bill because say insurance not cover? I suppose this happens often in the medical fraternity? A lot of what I do is online - and pre-approved LOG as my practice is linked to the national insurance schemes and the major insurance providers. The claimables are very strict. Any surgical tables need to be written clearly, any additionals are clearly listed and itemized, and any medications are issued pursuant to the condition that I'm treating. Experimental drugs (eg certain cancer drugs etc) are not included unless authorized prior, and the whole process is transparent. Any item that is not clearly listed in the insurance coverage is paid for by the patient. The receipt is then given, usually with a supporting memo & an excerpt of the patient's medical records, and this helps facilitate the claims done by the patient against his own insurance coverage. It's quite straightforward. None of my nurses will "call up the insurance" for confirmation - it's all online. |
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May 4 2024, 05:25 PM
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Good hospital staff will know which medicine is claimable and not, they will explain to you why the non-claimable one is recommended so then you decide whether you really need it or not. TS what drug is not claimable anyway?
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May 4 2024, 05:30 PM
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Which hosp ur friend go lar? Usually pharmacist section doesn't know can claim or not. Not their job
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May 4 2024, 05:34 PM
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May 4 2024, 05:42 PM
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Should have asked your agent to confirm with the company underwriter. As others said, not the job of the pharmacist nor the hospital. Hospitals can claim whatever from the insurance company but ultimately, it's the insurance company that is approving and pay out the claims. Buffalo Soldier liked this post
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May 4 2024, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:21 PM) Actually, not really in Singapore. This is Malaysia bro , very normal for them to call insurance company to ask . Every thing in Mal is not transparent ..A lot of what I do is online - and pre-approved LOG as my practice is linked to the national insurance schemes and the major insurance providers. The claimables are very strict. Any surgical tables need to be written clearly, any additionals are clearly listed and itemized, and any medications are issued pursuant to the condition that I'm treating. Experimental drugs (eg certain cancer drugs etc) are not included unless authorized prior, and the whole process is transparent. Any item that is not clearly listed in the insurance coverage is paid for by the patient. The receipt is then given, usually with a supporting memo & an excerpt of the patient's medical records, and this helps facilitate the claims done by the patient against his own insurance coverage. It's quite straightforward. None of my nurses will "call up the insurance" for confirmation - it's all online. hksgmy liked this post
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May 4 2024, 05:58 PM
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Yr case is nothing I kena with Sunway hospital . A can claim B also can claim , but doctor did A+B at one go hence cannot claim for B .
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May 4 2024, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 4 2024, 04:54 PM) I was having lunch with colleagues on the other day. By any chance med B is antidepressants, for issomia, anxiety etc?One of them complained about an insurance medical claim went to do a Guarantee Letter on a medical situation. then went to hospital, doctor prescribed Medicine A and B. So the colleague asked the hospital GL can claim both medicine A and B ? The cashier and pharmacy say can. Then colleague took back the medicine and consumed all, didn't need to pay. 3 months later, hospital staff call my colleague, said the insurance rejected medicine B but medicine A is ok. Requested my colleague to pay RM 150 for Medicine B. My colleague maki hamun the hospital not happy with bad service as their cashier checked with insurance GL say ok. So what would you do if you are in the colleague shoes? A) Pay the 150 B) Don't bother la, ignore don't pay and never go back to that hospital. C) write Complain letter and fight for credit note. Company staff insurance? This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 4 2024, 06:11 PM |
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May 4 2024, 06:11 PM
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is TS or friend?
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May 4 2024, 06:47 PM
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Rm150 jer
If biforti I can understand the pain |
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May 4 2024, 08:15 PM
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May 4 2024, 08:28 PM
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What insurance company..?
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May 4 2024, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:03 PM) What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR. If thats the case, wouldn't take long for hospitals to go bankrupt. Do expensive procedures, let customers take home expensive medication. Later insurance tak mau cover and customer MIA how? |
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May 4 2024, 08:39 PM
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2024 and here still need to call up insurance to check whether claimable or not, cannot brain. Im beginning to think they purposely dun want to come out with a comprehensive list of medicines tat are claimable or not to have gray areas so to reject claims up to their discretion. Welcome to merehsia...... As for TS question, just pay and get it over with. Not worth the hassle to fight this one. This post has been edited by COOLPINK: May 4 2024, 08:40 PM blek liked this post
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May 4 2024, 08:43 PM
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