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TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 04:54 PM, updated 2y ago

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I was having lunch with colleagues on the other day.

One of them complained about an insurance medical claim

went to do a Guarantee Letter on a medical situation.

then went to hospital, doctor prescribed Medicine A and B.

So the colleague asked the hospital GL can claim both medicine A and B ?

The cashier and pharmacy say can.

Then colleague took back the medicine and consumed all, didn't need to pay.

3 months later, hospital staff call my colleague, said the insurance rejected medicine B but medicine A is ok.

Requested my colleague to pay RM 150 for Medicine B.

My colleague maki hamun the hospital not happy with bad service as their cashier checked with insurance GL say ok.

So what would you do if you are in the colleague shoes?

A) Pay the 150
B) Don't bother la, ignore don't pay and never go back to that hospital.
C) write Complain letter and fight for credit note.

TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:03 PM)
What would the pharmacist or the cashier know about whether this item or that item is claimable under insurance? That's insurance punya pasal. If TS' friend wants to make noise, he should go ask his insurance agent or his office HR.
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colleague said the hospital cashier called the insurance co, and confirmed can claim.
TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:14 PM)
You know what they say right? If it ain't in writing, it didn't happen (this is the original saying, now we just say "no video, no talk").
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yeah but how to record the cashier say that?

but fact is then why hospital let my colleague go without paying? means they r confident GL can cover.

which makes me concern.

if next time I thinking my insurance can cover a big expensive operation.

mana tau? 3-6 months later suddenly hospital call to chase bill because say insurance not cover?

I suppose this happens often in the medical fraternity?
TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 05:21 PM)
Actually, not really in Singapore.

A lot of what I do is online - and pre-approved LOG as my practice is linked to the national insurance schemes and the major insurance providers. The claimables are very strict. Any surgical tables need to be written clearly, any additionals  are clearly listed and itemized, and any medications are issued pursuant to the condition that I'm treating. Experimental drugs (eg certain cancer drugs etc) are not included unless authorized prior, and the whole process is transparent.

Any item that is not clearly listed in the insurance coverage is paid for by the patient. The receipt is then given, usually with a supporting memo & an excerpt of the patient's medical records, and this helps facilitate the claims done by the patient against his own insurance coverage.

It's quite straightforward. None of my nurses will "call up the insurance" for confirmation - it's all online.
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I find in Msia really sucks.

Even for me, after going to hospital, I don't get any surgical table written sheet or what is claimable medicine or treatment clearly written in the bill.
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post May 4 2024, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Relaxing work 2 @ May 4 2024, 08:53 PM)
I have a recent experience:
Was warded due to vertigo. Upon discharge the doctor prescribed some medication. Months later the hospital claim the Insurance not paying for certain medication due to: it is not in the Doctor's report.
My argument is that how would I know if the Dr did not write this in his report, Afterall, the prescription was from the Dr.
Tried to avoid paying and argue about this with their accounts department. Ended up I received a lawyer letter demanding payment. So last , last I also end up paying. I am in no position and cannot afford a lawyer for this.
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How much was it?

Anything below 50k, good luck to them trying to get the money from you.

U don't sign the JDS, court can't enforce it on you.

THe cost of court case > the amt claim, most companies won't pursue.

lawyer letter just a scare tactic.

I would laugh if the hospital issue lawyer letter over a hundred ringgit bill.
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post May 4 2024, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 4 2024, 05:25 PM)
Good hospital staff will know which medicine is claimable and not, they will explain to you why the non-claimable one is recommended so then you decide whether you really need it or not. TS what drug is not claimable anyway?
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Don't know, colleague didn't say.
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post May 4 2024, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 10:14 PM)
Surgical tables are what we claim from the insurance. It’s what we are allowed to charge. You won’t see that in your bill.
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wish at least can see a status in the bill

1) how much confirmed claim from insurance
2) how much still waiting for insurance to confirm

I think it is only fair to the customers
TShoonanoo
post May 4 2024, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 4 2024, 10:18 PM)
You will get a bill, but the bill may not necessarily show the codes and nomenclature we use to submit our claims for surgery performed.

Eg. In your bill, you may have a statement stating “surgical removal of malignant tumour of the upper limb with wide margin excisional biopsy” but the corresponding table is actually a 5A.
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so in singapore can see or not, whether insurance claimable?


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post May 4 2024, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ May 4 2024, 10:25 PM)
Life/health important or cash or insurance claim more important?
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the colleague case one not life and death

 

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