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post May 1 2024, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 1 2024, 04:36 PM)
Singapore have 2 racial riots between locals (1964 and 1969) and one racial riot between foreigners (2013).
Malaysia only have one (1969).

Stop lying.

Even so, declaring Singapore as country on 1965,
they have equal amount race riot (1 in 1969) amongst its citizen
just like Malaysia had.
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post May 1 2024, 04:39 PM

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post May 1 2024, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 1 2024, 04:36 PM)
Singapore have 2 racial riots between locals (1964 and 1969) and one racial riot between foreigners (2013).
Malaysia only have one (1969).

Stop lying.

Even so, declaring Singapore as country on 1965,
they have equal amount race riot (1 in 1969) amongst its citizen
just like Malaysia had.
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From the wiki you quoted

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The precursor of the 1969 race riots can be traced to the 13 May Incident in Kuala Lumpur and Petaling Jaya in Malaysia. It was triggered by the results of the 1969 Malaysian general election, which were marked by Sino-Malay riots unprecedented in Malaysian history – 196 people were killed and over 350 injured between 13 May and 31 July. The real figures could be much higher than officially revealed. The Malaysian government declared a state of emergency and suspended Parliament until 1971.[1]

The disturbances had nothing to do with Singapore but there was an inexorable spillover of the communal violence in Malaysia into Singapore.


And yes, we should only consider after Singapore was established as a country which dictated its own policies and governance. This is the effectiveness of their governance that prevented racial hostilities.

And if you wanna compare to Malaysia, stop lying, here's the list of riots

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Here are some notable racial riots that have occurred in Malaysia since the 1969 riots:

    2001 Kampung Rawa Riot: A dispute between two individuals from different ethnic groups in Kampung Rawa, Gombak, Selangor, escalated into a riot involving hundreds of people. This incident highlighted underlying ethnic tensions.

    2009 Penang Riot: A Hindu temple relocation issue in Penang escalated into a riot involving Malays, Indians, and Chinese, resulting in injuries and damage to property.

    2018 Seafield Sri Maha Mariamman Temple Riot: Conflict surrounding the relocation of a Hindu temple in Subang Jaya, Selangor, resulted in a riot that lasted for two days. It involved clashes between the temple's supporters and a group of residents.

These are some of the significant racial riots that have occurred in Malaysia since the major riots of 1969. While there may have been other incidents of racial tension and violence, these events stand out due to their impact and public attention


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Singapore has been relatively successful in managing racial harmony, but there have been a few incidents of racial unrest since 1969. Here are some notable ones:

    1964 Race Riots: Prior to Singapore's independence, in July 1964, there were severe racial riots between ethnic Chinese and Malays. These riots were one of the factors that contributed to Singapore's separation from Malaysia.

    Little India Riot (2013): While not strictly a racial riot, the incident in December 2013 involved primarily South Asian migrant workers in Singapore's Little India district. It was sparked by the death of an Indian national in a bus accident and escalated into violent clashes with the police.

    1991 Maria Hertogh Riots Anniversary: In December 1991, there were tensions and some violence surrounding the anniversary of the Maria Hertogh riots of 1950. Maria Hertogh was a Dutch girl who was forcibly separated from her Malay-Muslim foster parents, leading to riots and unrest in 1950. While the 1991 incidents were not as severe, they highlighted lingering tensions.

    2001 May Day Riots: While not specifically racial, the May Day riots in 2001 involved clashes between foreign workers, mainly South Asians and Chinese nationals. The riots were sparked by disputes over employment conditions and escalated into violent confrontations with the police.


So YOU stop lying

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post May 1 2024, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 1 2024, 02:23 PM)
Freedom of Speech. Malaysia
Hahaha....According to the government, former attorney general Tan Sri Tommy Thomas's book titled My Story: Justice in the Wilderness has 19 key issues that warrant "further attention".
Malaysiakini found guilty, fined RM500,000, over readers’ comments left on their website. Then there are individuals charged with abuse of power for millions and billions who are walking free.
Crackhouse Comedy Club closed down.
Jocelyn Chia an American did a show in America and caused a fit here.
So much for freedom of speech....hehe..

Buying Power. Singapore

Affordable property. Malaysia
Affordable to who?? With the "strength" of the ringgit, we can't afford anything these days. Haha…92% of Singaporeans own their homes, 72% of Malaysians own their homes.)

Security. Singapore

Low taxes. Malaysia
Malaysia income tax: 0-30%, Singapore income tax: 0-22%. enuff said.

Workers rights. Singapore

Democracy. Malaysia
They vote, we vote. we have numerous corrupt politicians every election. And some are outright fighting for one race and one religion only. US came up with Donald Trump. UK shot their own foot by leaving the EU. Netherlands and Sweden have far-right parties which are xenophobic and racist. I’ll take SG anytime.

Public Transportation. Singapore

Personal transportation. Malaysia
What’s personal transportation? Car ownership?? Bicycles? COE is based on quota…SG car demand is high, which leads to very high COE in recent months there.
We are forced to buy cars because public transportation is in a mess, then forced to sit in cars for hours on end because of endless congestion. every 24 seconds, one person dies on the road. The economy and the environment suffers due to lost man-hours, and the amount of emissions from fuel consumption.

Racism and Ignorance. Tied
Hahaha…bumiputra rights already place one race above others in the constitution!

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post May 1 2024, 04:52 PM

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Yeah another wrong point, author didnt hear about akta sakit hati which basically eliminates any claim of freedom of speech in malaysia?
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post May 1 2024, 05:00 PM

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We should have other measurements that allow Malaysia to "win" Singapore.
Law and order: Malaysia (cos we can solve crimes real fast)
Assasination in KLIA. Victim does, murderers walk free because they were participating in gameshow.
Shaariibuugiin Altantuyaa Mongolian model bombed, elite bodyguards found guilty quickly.


Bribery/Corruption: Malaysia (cos we are just better)
from top to bottom, from politicians to civil servants to businessmen

Healthcare: Malaysia
Cos healthcare is cheaper in Malaysia than Singapore when all costs converted to USD. (Quality not included.)

Mobility of Skilled Talent: Malaysia
1.86 million of us already migrated overseas.
350,000 of us cross Causeway to work elsewhere.
Our skills are valued everywhere.

"Ease" of university admission.
Hey, We have more than 100 public and private universities here....Singapore has so few. (Quality not included)

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QUOTE(jaapers @ May 1 2024, 04:44 PM)
The disturbances had nothing to do with Singapore but there was an inexorable spillover of the communal violence in Malaysia into Singapore.
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You believed this WIKI post when the latter part said the Bangla-Indian incident in Little India was
a spillover from Malaysia?
Yeah right.
Shifting their own racial instability to Malaysian.

I know you will use the 2018 incident where I had already mentioned in this thread.
It was a riot between developers and temple supporters.
The developers uses Malay gangs as protection for this case.

It is not Malay vs India that causes the riot.

Who are the developers exactly?
One City Development Sdn. Bhd
No need to dig deep, I already can assume who owns it.

Next is the Buah Pala village in Penang, northern Malaysia, Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009,
same thing here.
Indian protesting for demolition of temple and the government.
Are they clashing with the Malays or
are they clashing with the riot police?

Read here below!
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In 2001, Koperasi Pegawai-Pegawai Kanan Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Berhad (KPKKNPP) applied to purchase 6.5 acres of land in Kampung Buah Pala. Succeeding this, 34 TOLs were issued to residential owners, despite there being 43 houses existing within its confines. In September the following year, the land commission agreed to KPKKNPP’s purchase of the disputed territory.


Next is 2001 Kampung Rawa Riot

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Pada 27 Mac 1998 ketegangan memuncak selepas sembahyang Jumaat setelah ada yang saling membaling batu.
Kira-kira 1500 - 2000 orang Islam berkumpul untuk sembahyang Jumaat.
Ada saksi yang menyatakan jumlahnya mencapai 5000 orang termasuk [[India Muslim[[ dari Kedah, Kelantan dan Perak.Masjid Kampung Rawa itu hanya menampung 200 orang sahaja.
Kira-kira 200-300 penganut Hindu berkawal di kuil mereka.
Tidak ada sebarang pertumpahan darah , kecederaan atau kematian .
Polis FRU telah melepaskan gas pemedih mata setelah 4 orang cedera.


No one got badly hurt or dead, some kids throwing rocks that incites this mass gathering.

Now the question is, who is the TPM back then who can't control his area?
He had to turun padang to clean up his mess.
Now, look at the KKMART issue, same person.

It is Anwar Ibrahim.




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post May 1 2024, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 1 2024, 03:38 PM)
Malaysia is the 40th in Democracy Index
and the highest of any country in South East Asia,
and ranked 6th in Asia.

Singapore is in 69th place,
below Filipina, Timor Leste, Indonesia and Thailand.

Kalau nak jilat,
Singapura berak taik pun kau sanggup jilat

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some ppl dont know differenciate democracy vs spewing nonsense inciting statements
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QUOTE(J2001k2 @ May 1 2024, 04:49 PM)
Freedom of Speech. Malaysia

So much for freedom of speech....hehe..
Debunked!
Malaysia is on the 72nd spot of Press Freedom Index (which relates to Freedom of Speech), while Singapore is at 129th spot


Affordable property. Malaysia
Affordable to who?? With the "strength" of the ringgit, we can't afford anything these days. Haha…92% of Singaporeans own their homes, 72% of Malaysians own their homes.)
You think we don't know, that you can easily deceive us? So typical!?
We all know how Singaporean can own affordable HDB housing.
Now try private owned landed housing and compare it to Malaysian.
And compare the government approved PPRT housings pricing.


Security. Singapore
Crime in Singapore are high risk, low reward.

Low taxes. Malaysia
Malaysia income tax: 0-30%, Singapore income tax: 0-22%. enuff said.
Now compare each income brackets by their income, and compare it dollar to dollar

Workers rights. Singapore

Labor Rights index of Singapore is lower than the average of all SE Asia

Democracy. Malaysia
I’ll take SG anytime.
This been said so many times here, no need to repeat

Public Transportation. Singapore

Personal transportation. Malaysia
What’s personal transportation?
Exactly

Racism and Ignorance. Tied
Hahaha…bumiputra rights already place one race above others in the constitution!

As if Singapore does not have affirmative actions

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post May 1 2024, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 1 2024, 05:07 PM)
You believed this WIKI post when the latter part said the Bangla-Indian incident in Little India was
a spillover from Malaysia?
Yeah right.
Shifting their own racial instability to Malaysian.

I know you will use the 2018 incident where I had already mentioned in this thread.
It was a riot between developers and temple supporters.
The developers uses Malay gangs as protection for this case.

It is not Malay vs India that causes the riot.

Who are the developers exactly?
One City Development Sdn. Bhd
No need to dig deep, I already can assume who owns it.

Next is the Buah Pala village in Penang, northern Malaysia, Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009,
same thing here.
Indian protesting for demolition of temple and the government.
Are they clashing with the Malays or
are they clashing with the riot police?

Read here below!
Next is 2001 Kampung Rawa Riot
No one got badly hurt or dead, some kids throwing rocks that incites this mass gathering.

Now the question is, who is the TPM back then who can't control his area?
He had to turun padang to clean up his mess.
Now, look at the KKMART issue, same person.

It is Anwar Ibrahim.
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Yada yada yada, so much bottom barrel fishing on the SG end but so much plotek on malaysia end. Basically you are full of shit when you say that SG has more racial riots than Malaysia.

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 1 2024, 05:20 PM)

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Do tell which affirmative action policy for the majority they have in Singapore. Tell me at least five, if you can find one also good.
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QUOTE(jaapers @ May 1 2024, 05:21 PM)
Yada yada yada, so much bottom barrel fishing on the SG end but so much plotek on malaysia end.  Basically you are full of shit when you say that SG has more racial riots than Malaysia.
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I already proven mine and refuted your points.
All you can do is menyalak (yada yada yada) like a dog to a hill.

I am a Malaysian citizen.
I did whatever my country needs me too, unlike you.

You're just a social parasite that eat, get fat and leave when it is no more to feed.
Maybe it is your time to be an immigrant
and be another pendatang in Singapore.

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 1 2024, 05:25 PM)
I already proven mine and refuted your points.
All you can do is menyalak (yada yada yada) like a dog to a hill.

I am a Malaysian citizen.
I did whatever my country needs me too, unlike you.

You're just a social parasite that eat, get fat and leave when it is no more to feed.
Maybe it is your time to be an immigrant
and be another pendatang in Singapore.
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your one person's biased interpretation =/= proof. Bodoh. Most interpretation are that they are racial, therefore AI also classifies it as racial. Your cases of 'racial riots' in SG wasnt even classified as racial. pathetic la.
We are all malaysian citizens but not all of us are racist scum protecting institutionalized racist policies who just likes to repeat 'kalau tak suka, keluar'. Thought you;d be more original than that, but that is really expecting too much from a bottom-barrel fisher.
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 1 2024, 05:24 PM)
Do tell which affirmative action policy for the majority they have in Singapore. Tell me at least five, if you can find one also good.
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Affirmative action is a loose term but it is more on oppressing non English speaking Chinese minorities,

1. HDB Ethnic Integration Policy (1989)
2. Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR) Quota (it excludes Malaysian)
3. Unwritten rule of discrimination of Malays in the armed forces (historically proven)
4. Critical Race Theory/Eugenics mindset by LKY in making his policies

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QUOTE(J2001k2 @ May 1 2024, 04:49 PM)
Freedom of Speech. Malaysia
Hahaha....According to the government, former attorney general Tan Sri Tommy Thomas's book titled My Story: Justice in the Wilderness has 19 key issues that warrant "further attention".
Malaysiakini found guilty, fined RM500,000, over readers’ comments left on their website. Then there are individuals charged with abuse of power for millions and billions who are walking free.
Crackhouse Comedy Club closed down.
Jocelyn Chia an American did a show in America and caused a fit here.
So much for freedom of speech....hehe..

Buying Power. Singapore

Affordable property. Malaysia
Affordable to who?? With the "strength" of the ringgit, we can't afford anything these days. Haha…92% of Singaporeans own their homes, 72% of Malaysians own their homes.)

Security. Singapore

Low taxes. Malaysia
Malaysia income tax: 0-30%, Singapore income tax: 0-22%. enuff said.

Workers rights. Singapore

Democracy. Malaysia
They vote, we vote. we have numerous corrupt politicians every election. And some are outright fighting for one race and one religion only. US came up with Donald Trump. UK shot their own foot by leaving the EU. Netherlands and Sweden have far-right parties which are xenophobic and racist. I’ll take SG anytime.

Public Transportation. Singapore

Personal transportation. Malaysia
What’s personal transportation? Car ownership?? Bicycles? COE is based on quota…SG car demand is high, which leads to very high COE in recent months there.
We are forced to buy cars because public transportation is in a mess, then forced to sit in cars for hours on end because of endless congestion. every 24 seconds, one person dies on the road. The economy and the environment suffers due to lost man-hours, and the amount of emissions from fuel consumption.

Racism and Ignorance. Tied
Hahaha…bumiputra rights already place one race above others in the constitution!
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Having own private transport is much better quality of life than shared public transport
No matter how good public transport is you still have to stand in crowd train

It’s like biz class vs economy seat
The privacy of driving a myvi still much better than sit in MRT

Imagine sharing your home with other public

That’s not a high standard of living

Having a family and using public transport is just bad quality of living

This post has been edited by Raddus: May 1 2024, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(jaapers @ May 1 2024, 05:35 PM)
your one person's biased interpretation =/= proof.  Bodoh.  Most interpretation are that they are racial, therefore AI also classifies it as racial.  Your cases of 'racial riots' in SG wasnt even classified as racial.  pathetic la. 
We are all malaysian citizens but not all of us are racist scum protecting institutionalized racist policies who just likes to repeat 'kalau tak suka, keluar'.  Thought you;d be more original than that, but that is really expecting too much from a bottom-barrel fisher.
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again, ad hominem yada yada

I have carefully selected the riots based on race/religion
and left out the others from our discussion
like the workers union or vernacular school ones.

You are not that smart, aren't you?

You believe Singapore media saying it was not racially motivated riot for Little India,
it was an OPSEC to calm the racial tension down in social media.
Look up their press freedom index for god's sake.

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