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Are you waiting for Proton EV?
 
Yes, Geometry C [ 5 ] ** [7.69%]
Yes, Geometry E [ 3 ] ** [4.62%]
No, will wait for Perodua EV [ 10 ] ** [15.38%]
No, will buy pricier EVs [ 20 ] ** [30.77%]
No, no EV for me [ 27 ] ** [41.54%]
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ayamxxx
post May 6 2024, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 6 2024, 11:19 AM)
Yet local seems to be supportive

https://www.wapcar.my/news/proton-sales-in-...-of-civic-79193

Also, we are not that unique, GM cars of America also can't sell well globally. So bad 7ntil they exited Europe and South East Asia

Only USA and China care about them

A bunch of Indian cars also don't sell elsewhere.
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x90 sales lack vs CX8 tell everything, this car model is failed big time. Thanks to fire accident last time, keep using 1.5T 3 cylinder engine + mild hybrid (taboo name for normal buyer) for the sake of getting 300nm and rival Tiggo 8 with better bang for money. If they need 300nm should use 1.8T engine instead
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post May 6 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 6 2024, 11:23 AM)
for less serious, just to claim R&D tax cut to gomen innocent.gif
They dont have volume of sales to ROI if make own model, better take existing, completed model and change Logo instead

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: May 6 2024, 11:30 AM
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post May 6 2024, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 6 2024, 11:28 AM)
x90 sales lack vs CX8 tell everything, this car model is failed big time. Thanks to fire accident last time, keep using 1.5T 3 cylinder engine + mild hybrid (taboo name for normal buyer) for the sake of getting 300nm and rival Tiggo 8 with better bang for money. If they need 300nm should use 1.8T engine instead
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That is why Chinese +ICE is no good as far as I am concerned

Look at Chery Omoda , and look at this Proton

Headache and heartache
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post May 6 2024, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 6 2024, 11:29 AM)
for less serious, just to claim R&D tax cut to gomen  innocent.gif
They dont have volume of sales to ROI if make own model, better take existing, completed model and change Logo instead
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Less serious, here is mine

Proton stand for Pathetic RIP-OFF; Terriblle & Outrageous Nuisance
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post May 6 2024, 05:42 PM

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Proton has been doing well with their x-series until the "no spare parts" issue came up and then their branding went downhill.
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post May 6 2024, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 6 2024, 05:42 PM)
Proton has been doing well with their x-series until the "no spare parts" issue came up and then their branding went downhill.
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The spare part issues was so yesterday, which happened during MCO time. Now solve already. If warranty part claim is 2-3 week waiting similar to Honda Malaysia.

The X series been years already, sure wow factor no more. Need facelift asap with meet customer features demand, AA and ACP. All China brand no issues giving that while Proton still slow with Acotech junk company
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post May 7 2024, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 26 2024, 07:53 AM)
Poll number has jumped from 30 respondent to 39, result has also changed in positioning.

Now it shows equal 20%  waiting for Proton EV and another 17.5% waiting for Perodua.

32.5% will buy other BEV

That makes 70% willing to buy BEV

The reluctant to buy BEV percentage has dropped from 40% to 30% only
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Poll number has jumped from 39 to 52

Wait list of Proton EV has dropped from 20% to 17%. perodua wait list jumped to 19% from 17.5%

31% will buy others, dropping him 32.5%

Reluctant to buy EV percentage has jumped back from 30% to 35%

The buy EV percentage has jumped overall from 70% to 75%

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 6 2024, 06:40 PM)
The spare part issues was so yesterday, which happened during MCO time. Now solve already. If warranty part claim is 2-3 week waiting similar to Honda Malaysia.

The X series been years already, sure wow factor no more. Need facelift asap with meet customer features demand, AA and ACP. All China brand no issues giving that while Proton still slow with Acotech junk company
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Really? Then why


2022

https://focusmalaysia.my/two-years-on-owner...70-spare-parts/

https://www.carlist.my/news/will-there-be-a...es-88675/88675/

2023

https://www.dsf.my/2023/06/why-is-there-sti...es-with-proton/

2024
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/03/...arts-china-bttv

Maybe proton should sue customers like Chery?

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 6 2024, 05:42 PM)
Proton has been doing well with their x-series until the "no spare parts" issue came up and then their branding went downhill.
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What sucks more is as far as I can tell Proton themselves also not so keen to deal with their brand image now. I think they wanted more to go back to become Proton "Edar"

https://www.carsome.my/news/item/smart-1-ev...20in%20Malaysia.

Smart brands make them look best since losing Lotus in 2017

I don't blame them actually . Making car is super hard and not done right, you will close shop. it has happened to too many : Ssangyong, Daewoo, Saab, Fisker and many more



Selling what other make is much easier

Moreover, back then (2012 to mid 2017) Proton has one boss , DRB Hicom, now have two, with china mari Geely

Do you want to be them?

Don't believe me? Who signed up for Tg Malim?


https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/10/...omotive-hub-nev

Bapa call the shot, anak diam diam

Some more bapa ada ramai anak angkat through many "marriages": Honda, Isuzu, Mitsubishi even VW


Why Proton dekat bawah sekali at their websites? Aiya...
https://www.drb-hicom.com/group-companies/a...e-distribution/

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post May 23 2024, 07:43 AM

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Q1 2025

https://www.wapcar.my/news/ckd-neta-v-to-st...y-q1-2025-79503

75k?

P2 quickly responded...

https://www.nst.com.my/news-cars-bikes-truc...en-rm50k-rm100k

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https://soyacincau.com/2024/05/20/is-proton...g-ev-sub-brand/

Proton is asking the public to guess the brand name of its first EV via the company’s new Decode The Future contest. With total cash prizes of RM8,000 up for grabs, it may seem like another name guessing contest but we believe there is more to it than just that.


“Brand Name” is not equal to car name

For one, the contest is specifically asking the public to guess the “Brand Name”. Proton didn’t say what exactly it means by “Brand Name” but we don’t think it is the name for the EV series.


We believe that Proton might be hinting at a new sub-brand for its first-ever EV which will be launched next year. While this might seem like an odd move by the national automaker, this is nothing new within the automotive industry, especially for manufacturers from China.


Geely Geometry A – when it was launched in 2019.
As an example, Proton’s co-parent, Geely has several sub-brands under its name such as the Galaxy which focuses on hybrid and EVs. There was also the Geometry but this sub-brand has since been reconsolidated into the main Geely Auto marquee as an affordable EV series.


Another well-known example would be BYD which has created a luxury-oriented sub-brand together with Mercedes-Benz called Denza. The company has another luxury-oriented sub-brand called Yangwang and there is also the Fangchengbao which covers the off-road segment.

Is Proton EV based on the Geely Galaxy E5?

At the same time, the imagery that Proton has used for the contest features a silhouette of a car that seems to be identical to the outline of the Geely Galaxy E5. First announced back in March, the E5 has been rumoured as the main candidate for Proton’s first-ever EV given how the model was developed from scratch to have a right-hand variant.

Official details regarding the true capability of the new EV are still scarce at the moment. According to the listing on China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT), the E5 is equipped with a 160kW (215hp) electric motor and is capable of delivering a top speed of 175km/h.


The listing also said that the EV is powered by an LFP battery pack although its capacity was not mentioned. According to Geely Galaxy China’s official website, the E5 is 4,615mm long and 1,901mm wide while it also has a wheelbase of 2,750mm.

Proton invites the public to “Decode The Future”

Back to the Proton’s contest, it is not a walk in the park. For one, it is not a multiple-choice question and you only have one attempt to do it as Proton only accepts one submission per IC or passport number.

If you submit more than one, your entries will be disqualified. Not to forget, this contest is only open to individuals aged 18 years and above.

After you submit your name prediction, you will be presented with another test. While the task is fairly simple, you must complete the test correctly as soon as possible.

If you want to try your luck, do submit your name prediction over at the Proton EV Brand Name Contest’s mini-site right here by 5 June 2024.
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https://soyacincau.com/2024/06/09/proton-ev-event-12-june/


Proton EV to be revealed on 12 June?
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post Jun 10 2024, 07:18 AM

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No EVs for me as long as ICE cars are still available for sale and gas stations are still in operation.

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post Jun 11 2024, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 10 2024, 08:18 AM)
No EVs for me as long as ICE cars are still available for sale and gas stations are still in operation.
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Of course no ev…

Until gomen punch us in the face with rm3.35 - 3.50 a litre of ron95…

By that time even charging outside will just cost 36% from filling up petrol… 😼😼😼
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post Jun 13 2024, 07:14 AM

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https://soyacincau.com/2024/06/12/proton-e-...h-december-gma/



Proton e.MAS first EV to launch in December, built using Global Modular Architecture
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post Jun 21 2024, 12:27 PM

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https://themalaysianreserve.com/2024/06/19/...the-evs-market/

The very long read...

“With Proton being Malaysia’s premiere automotive brand, Proton must invest in EV infrastructure to help EV buyers instead of leaving them high and dry, and that infrastructure will need to be completed before we advance into the selling stage. So said Proton Edar CEO Roslan Abdullah
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post Jun 21 2024, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 21 2024, 12:27 PM)
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2024/06/19/...the-evs-market/

The very long read...

“With Proton being Malaysia’s premiere automotive brand, Proton must invest in EV infrastructure to help EV buyers instead of leaving them high and dry, and that infrastructure will need to be completed before we advance into the selling stage.  So said Proton Edar CEO Roslan Abdullah
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Stop believing what he said lol. Remember the fiasco of AA, ACP for Geely car, the results of X90 poor sales
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 21 2024, 10:01 PM)
Stop believing what he said lol. Remember the fiasco of AA, ACP for Geely car, the results of X90 poor sales
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Well he can talk all the talk but we can see how the walk is . Buyers won't be easily fooled

Zeekr is doing well btw

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