Did anyone use the Makeover Guys service to renovate the house before? Is their renovation quality good?

I plan to renovate my house this year Q4 and I looking for a One-stop service because my property is in KL but I'm no staying in KL.

Any idea?

Is this investment or ownstay? What area? What’s your target tenant if investment. I think they do neat cookie cutter designs for investment but not particularly good quality.

from what i see from youtube on their previous project + the price, i guess quality is so so. just my guess.
if u want, i can intro you my reno guy who did everything for me, one stop center. workmen is i can say very good

yea- cheap fast hassle free

i would say quality acceptable, but if cost and time is issue- ok ba.
good design as well... take note it is less customization ya

can please PM me too, might need it later ...

Can you share what he has done for your house?

PM me too.

PM Me three. Thank you. Some samples would be good.

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Apr 16 2024, 12:49 PM

Hi please PM me too the contact.

Thanks

MOG have different tier of finishing, premium,intermediate and standard. But even standard furnishing, it also cost about 20k++ for 1 bedder, that’s the price I quoted during end of 2023.


But the great part of MOG is suitable for people that lack of time to coordinate different parties, it’s really time consuming to manage. Haha need to take in account. Sometimes work done are not up to satisfactions, another trip to open door for the guy to touch up.

Not promoting MOG, but you can get different parties that offer one stop service to solve your hassle since you’re not staying within KV.

Can pm me as well. Would be great to explore when my unit is ready.

PM the details...
If possible.. some pictures if their previous work done

Went to see a few people's units who are MOG designed and I also enquired myself for pricing.

Pros:
- Look nice on photo, for Airbnb/rental photos is very attractive
- Easy and hassle free
- Just pick your chosen design and go
- They can give you free photos for uploading to your hosting site/listing to seek tenant/guest

Cons:
- MOG units look like MOG units 😅 there's a distinct way they like to do their "signature wallpaper treatment", can clearly tell it's their template. It means if someone knows MOG and MOG renovated unit quality, it may influence their feeling about renting the place.
- They also make you need to post photos with the signature MOG cushion, so in a way your photos also advertising for them. Sample attached:

- Their furniture quality is quite cheapo despite looking nice, not good quality for own stay or long term use. Their target is for investment or people who want aesthetic without paying the actual cost for quality.
- Quite expensive for what they will do for your unit. Can get cheaper elsewhere, although arguably less aesthetically pleasing for promo photos.
- Not for people who are picky or want lots of freedom to customise. They only have their own set templates to work from.

If you want to see more samples you can search on YouTube, they share a lot of their behind the scenes and unit photos.

https://youtube.com/@TheMakeoverGuys?si=2dJJRqZiQijZcpPk

This post has been edited by DragonReine: Apr 16 2024, 09:02 PM

Please DM me your contact please

Hi all, is for investment.
Property: Sunway Velocity 2 block C
915 SQ

yes, is for investment, in KL, my property is Sunway Velocity 2

Yes, please share. Thank you so much

good for a first look but bad for a long-term stay

like how you feel when you are at IKEA

understand, I also looking for other one stop service. But very hard to find a good company. Jilat

boss, can pm for the reno guy?

PM too

This is a fairly pricey unit so I imagine your budget is a bit higher so don’t have to use them. My biggest beef with MOG is that their wardrobes are really small. I think rule of thumb is roughly 10% of your purchase price so a 70-80k budget gives you a lot of options. Can go cheaper of course but don’t go too cheap.

I see, do you know any company or friend is doing the renovation?

hey guys, i have a new idea. I let make over guys do the renovation but dont include furniture. I will go to buy furniture by myself, is that ok?

needed to ask if they can agree or not with your idea

Yup, I already asked them, wait for their reply

I have the same beef with MOG.

Anyway, i did my unit with MOG. It's for investment purpose and was during COVID where I didn't want to go around furniture shopping. Prospective tenants seem to like the unit from the photos and when they visit the unit.

For me, I would never do an ownstay reno with MOG. Was forced to use their (ugly) and very impractical templates, cheap furnitures.

This post has been edited by baoz: Apr 17 2024, 11:31 PM

m@g is for naive owners. Those have renovation experience are unlikely to choose them.

The most egregious thing is I see are these 1000+ psf units in MK or in KLCC using them and I get instantly turned off. The main payoff is nice photos. But I’d just hire a junior photographer with a wide lens camera for an hour or two once I’ve dressed up the unit.

I do think they are effective for developments in the rumah weep price point or just a bit above.

This post has been edited by Cavatzu: Apr 18 2024, 11:05 AM

SO, the MOG just using a cheap furnitures? If so, then jilat leh

Can you pls pm me too? Thank you!!

MOG is under FAR?

Since day 1

MOG is suitable for rental units. Not for own stay I think.

They use the cheapest grade furniture and renovation materials to mark up their profit margin.

they play around with wall design ... the furniture given is low grade.,..

not worth to pay premium to get sub par quality

Low grade furniture, wall design suitable in case the tenant decides to run away with the furnitures or thrash up the unit.

So can DIY ownself insted of MOG...

This post has been edited by GOPI56: May 21 2024, 10:17 AM

now easy to decorate... so many sample in google and Pinterest... youtube also can teach...

ikea, shopee, tapao ....can buy good quality with affordable price...

unless owner very malas... and not want to learn... then use money to settle

Tenants who onli hunt for ff units are generally lower grade. Pardon siudai for tis ya.

Long term n superb grade tenants usually looking for pf.

Key words
1. Generally
2. Usually

Pls dun bash as siudai speaking with very limited experience 😊

any data to support this??

the data shall consists more than 1000 units transactions in span of min 5 years... else is just kaki kong kaki song

Definitely is kaki gong kaki song wan ma as its my own experience nia 🤣🤣🤣

Dun forget siudai alwiz chekai wan la 🫣

This post has been edited by ManutdGiggs: May 22 2024, 04:11 PM

Pm pls

Saw your old post bro, mind to PM as well? Thanks

Separately, I would say why not you just take the template from MOG and ask your contractor to do everything for you instead?

Well the highest paying tenants are expats on assignment for a few years and I’m pretty sure they want the convenience of a well done up FF place. They used to have furniture relocation packages but I think it’s highly unnecessary in todays climate and given what’s on offer in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by Cavatzu: May 23 2024, 09:51 AM

Can PM me too... i need it also...

I absolutely agree with your statement.

However, I only accept those who can do pf and all the while all my expats tenants are renting pf

Of cos tis practice is subjective and it suits me well cos siudai alwiz being safe to avoid tenants goin MIA n moving away those furniture silently

Pls pardon siudai kiasi behaviour 😅😅😅

I think MOG greatest strength is their marketing. Quality is not in their vocabulary. Have seen cupboard panels peeling after 1 month in Mt Kiara condo. The designs also quite old fashioned.

I think you should have your own design in mind, and get at least 3 contractor to quote before comitting.

This post has been edited by syque: May 23 2024, 02:28 PM

Na it’s better ROI for you. Smart. Do you think there’s distinction on when to FF or PF depending on size of unit? Eg. 1k sqft unit vs 2k+ sqft unit?

Most investors don’t really make back the capital expenditure on ID works.

Cheap yes.. quality not really. Good result yes

Boss there is no definite standard to differ the rate actually

I was able to make the same rate for my pf Vs my neighbour ff under the same type of unit

I reckon it's the timing tat giv advantage or disadvantage in securing the TA

Usually 2 mths prior to a new academic yr ll giv u higher rate. No rocket science but by luck I would say but of cos with a well maintained unit with constant refurbishment. Those run down units ll see lower rate even with ff

Can share some picture and their contacts ?

Bro, pls pm, thanks

MOG business model are very good and they already expanded with bank collaboration to provide financing on renovation

They are successful mainly due to
1) design and attractiveness - statistically proven with high rental pick up rates
2) one stop service with warranty - save your time a lot
3) assisting on promoting your unit for rent and also help you to analyze the market (good for investor)

So all the benefits mentioned above are actually comes with a price, based on the standards evaluation, you will see
1) Basically all of their furnishes are from IKEA
2) No CUSTOM made in term of furnishes
3) Their ID theme are cosmetically formed up by the idea of applying wallpapers so the concern will arise when
- the wallpaper tear/wear off, will look super ugly
- maintenance outside of warranty period?
- damaged by the tenants?
**Personally I would prefer paint over wallpaper as you just need to record the color code and fix it easily

4) If you look at their quotation, you will realize there is a huge portion of service charge imply and also plenty of marked up item which will ended up with some mixed feeling such as
- it will be much much more cheaper if I engage others
- should I just compromise and consider paying it for my TIME?

So I think MOG approach are only make sense for people who willing to spend to buy TIME and prefer quick results (especially investors)
And for those who are very particular with all the aspect (mainly for own stay), I don't think you will buy the idea and pay the price

kindly pm contact

Could you PM me your contact? thanks!

I've had work done by the Makeover Guys before - yes quality is so-so, but it is convenient if you don't have time to source for everything yourself, and they also take nice photos of the unit for you to pass to agents to list out. I must say my unit did get rented out quickly.

Hi! Would you mind to PM the contact details? I’m looking for one stop center contractor for own stay reno. Thanks in advance!

Hi. Pls pm me the contact number of your reno guy. Thanks!

Hi just saw your reply. Mind to pm the details of your reno guy? TIA!

PM pls!

Hi ! PM please

Do your due diligence before making any purchase decision.

If after 1 tenant thrash place and run off, you cry until no tears. Most tenants now do not take care of unit.

If one is scared of tenants thrashing place, then dont invest property. Keep money in FD please. I don't like the volatility of the share market so I don't buy shares directly. To each his own.

did you invest in property and rent out to tenant? or hearsay? or you're the tenant?

Can you PM the contact too please?

That’s why one should aim for T20 tenants (expat). At the lower end just do bare minimum.

Hi can pm me pls ,Reno soon thanks

If u choose the right tenants like white collar workers in the Klang Valley you'll never have to worry about your place bring trashed.

They have to choose you too. It all starts from property selection.

Do you rmb which prev project you saw? I'd love to know more about your reno guy too man

Pls PM me, thanks!

Hi can pm me too as well. Thanks! 🙏🏻

How much package for 1k sq condo?

This post has been edited by ahkit123: Sep 24 2024, 10:52 PM

can pm me the contact also?

PM pls

Seems like TS no longer active, such a shame seeing how much people are interested

The risk is there, repair n continue rental to recoup.

Can you PM me the contact?

Thanks in advance

ihenrg also use makeover guy, sean n FAR bff kot

Half of the thread are filled up with these bots replies to this disguised ad

Hmm I was legit interested tho

Am not really sure how TS judged the quality solely from a youtube video

This post has been edited by rayeonlee: Feb 17 2025, 10:54 AM

Doesn't he work with them? Or worked with them in the past?

I think in marketing or something like that.

It's more like TMOG owned a stake in his brand/youtube channel.

I wouldn't speculate on this lol

As I don't see any constant active branding of TMoG in his channel

That said, I definitely can see that he is somewhat close to them be it in work or personal accords

Actually if you have reno experience, u can deal directly with contractors...Some contractors that I have liaised with told me they also prefer to deal directly with houseowners...less headache when it comes to collecting money....

Of coz picking the right contractor is like an art...Need a lot of patience and time to check them out...

U must also know a bit here and there about reno and all these can be learnt easily over the years...

This is from one of the recent interviews with him.



Watch from "1:23:30 Joining The Makeover Guys" onwards.

This post has been edited by BoonieTan: Feb 17 2025, 05:10 PM

Thanks for pointing that out

No wonder I don't see any active point out from him, so its from a podcast interview that he shares these

Well, I guess it reaffirms the gesture of "business, is always business"

i wouldn’t use MOG tbh, there are many One-stop renovations service/designer out there that you can choose from. Just by looking at the photos, you can tell its nothing but cheap quality.

Also i would like to point out that these photo are taken at an angle where it look nice only from that small angle, if your unit size is big, you will pretty much feel that your unit felt empty despite after furnishing. I’ve seen it from my personal experience.

There are many companies that do the same thing as makeover that are roughly priced around the same as each other but makeovers price is easily 30-40% more. Final design also you can get better design from other companies.

Mind PM the contact of your contractor

everyone is try to max profit from property. last time got bulk purchase, then got guru, now got property management company and renovation company.

My 2 cents now that I’ve gone to their showroom and drunk their coffee. The operation is very slick and the sales process is very effective. Pretty straight shooting although still persuasive.

No not cheap but very effective for clueless millennial/gen Z property buyers. And the assurance of a hands off experience.

I think the trick with them is that the inclusions are quite scalable and you can dictate how much or how little you use.

and house owner with 30 years house loan thinking they are winning the property game.

Agree.

But kind of weird isn’t it.

MOG should have benefit of scale to leverage on.

They should be much more cost efficient

Perhaps the independent contractors are satisfied with smaller margins

All their marketing. Hiring attractive sales staff with good English. That all costs money. One can definitely shop around for the cheapest option but the experience won’t be the same. I kinda understand what they’re doing now and it’s a good business plan. They price themselves at the premium economy end because they can.

shhh, here couple of guys swear by their leasehold apartment in suburban are fetching good return. and then a youtuber claim he snowball into a multi million portfolio (debt) doing exactly this

MOG Reno has standard designs. Go watch iherng videos. Like someone said, they leverage on the scale which they have. Definitely for rental market. If own stay, there are many other players out there