Is this investment or ownstay? What area? What’s your target tenant if investment. I think they do neat cookie cutter designs for investment but not particularly good quality.

This is a fairly pricey unit so I imagine your budget is a bit higher so don’t have to use them. My biggest beef with MOG is that their wardrobes are really small. I think rule of thumb is roughly 10% of your purchase price so a 70-80k budget gives you a lot of options. Can go cheaper of course but don’t go too cheap.

The most egregious thing is I see are these 1000+ psf units in MK or in KLCC using them and I get instantly turned off. The main payoff is nice photos. But I’d just hire a junior photographer with a wide lens camera for an hour or two once I’ve dressed up the unit.

I do think they are effective for developments in the rumah weep price point or just a bit above.

This post has been edited by Cavatzu: Apr 18 2024, 11:05 AM

Well the highest paying tenants are expats on assignment for a few years and I’m pretty sure they want the convenience of a well done up FF place. They used to have furniture relocation packages but I think it’s highly unnecessary in todays climate and given what’s on offer in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by Cavatzu: May 23 2024, 09:51 AM

Na it’s better ROI for you. Smart. Do you think there’s distinction on when to FF or PF depending on size of unit? Eg. 1k sqft unit vs 2k+ sqft unit?

Most investors don’t really make back the capital expenditure on ID works.

That’s why one should aim for T20 tenants (expat). At the lower end just do bare minimum.

They have to choose you too. It all starts from property selection.

My 2 cents now that I’ve gone to their showroom and drunk their coffee. The operation is very slick and the sales process is very effective. Pretty straight shooting although still persuasive.

No not cheap but very effective for clueless millennial/gen Z property buyers. And the assurance of a hands off experience.

I think the trick with them is that the inclusions are quite scalable and you can dictate how much or how little you use.

All their marketing. Hiring attractive sales staff with good English. That all costs money. One can definitely shop around for the cheapest option but the experience won’t be the same. I kinda understand what they’re doing now and it’s a good business plan. They price themselves at the premium economy end because they can.

Still going back and forth whether to use them. The wallet says no but the brain says yes.

You mean subsale property in need of renovation? I’m sure they do it. I think their capability for bespoke own stay designs has greatly improved. But their primary use is for investment properties or very time poor/overseas owners.

The “so called” cheaper contractors can spring a nasty surprise on you. MOG is transparent at least.

I'm gonna chime in my 2 cents here as someone who is not exactly an easy customer with discerning standards.

I've had to micromanage them to get things moving. I was initially impressed with the sales process but beyond that I'm paying a premium for what I feel is very average service. I can scream at any random Bangla just the same.

The scaling design/project management fee is a real gotcha. The more you spend with them, the more it escalates. I've had to step in to limit their scope to get passable value for their services which means more of my time to get a desired result.

TLDR if you're cash rich, time poor and have no design sense then they may still work for you. If you're trying to get the best outcome for your money then this isn't it.

This post has been edited by Cavatzu: Jul 24 2025, 10:34 PM