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 New Road Tax: EV will be cheaper than ICE, wow

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post Mar 31 2024, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Timber @ Mar 31 2024, 01:53 PM)
Government trying to encourage EV adoption.

In return people use less fuel. Less fuel less subsidy, less subsidy leak more savings in long term
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Many old car is not safe on the road.
But we don’t have the scrap car law, and BN tried before, but kena push back.
So adopt new EV is the best. Encourage car user to change their old car.

This post has been edited by xiaojohn: Mar 31 2024, 02:20 PM
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post Mar 31 2024, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Mar 31 2024, 01:46 PM)
Unidentified screenshot.
Source also don't have.
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real or fake
our roadtax structure is known to be outdated AF
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post Mar 31 2024, 02:31 PM

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Cheaper than 20 linggit?
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post Mar 31 2024, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 31 2024, 01:00 PM)
Ni bukan dengki.
Tapi hakikat.

It is illogical for rich people to be taxed less than the unfortune people.
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to make people do something, it is either force or incentivize
are we going towards renewables? seems so, with solar and ev subsidies

ICE is getting subsidies in fuel prices too, and if fuel/gas cost go up it will burden the country more
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 31 2024, 12:59 PM)
Dey! Orang miskin tolong jangan dengki orang kaya lah.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 31 2024, 01:00 PM)
Ni bukan dengki.
Tapi hakikat.

It is illogical for rich people to be taxed less than the unfortune people.
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+1
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PH (PKR+DAP) also fell for the EV Scam started by CCP China in the 2000s, in order for CCP China to overthrow ICE-V technology which was then dominated by Western and Japanese automakers - similar to the Covid-19 Scamdemic.
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Mar 31 2024, 01:57 PM)
Road tax in MY should be to repair the road, more heavy or bigger vehicle pays more for maintenance, but EV being more heavy and more powerful, which destroys the road faster pays less? What type of logic is this?hhha
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Actually its name is Lesen. Kenderaan Motor or licence for owning a motorized vehicle paid to RTD. It is not a tax actually. Only people call it road tax. You can check in myjpj app.
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 31 2024, 01:03 PM)
This EV for the rich mentality has to stop lah.

This is the only time our normal people can finally afford our dream of super/hypercar acceleration experience without spending Ferrari or Lamborghini money. Which we all know we die and reincarnated still wont be able to afford one.
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You mean cheaper Chinese copycat cars.?, eg BYD Seal is a copycat of Tesla Model 3 and Xiaomi SU7 is a copycat of Porsche Taycan.
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Mar 31 2024, 02:19 PM)
Makes sense now. To help ev adoption. It will not make sense to make it more expensive if we want to move to ev
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push for charging station 1st.....
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(bigduck @ Mar 31 2024, 02:13 PM)
Tax based on horsepower la
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EV definitely it will be based on kW.
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(nikkokl @ Mar 31 2024, 12:33 PM)
EV are heavier than ICE so more propensity to damage the roads. Why lower road tax than ICE?
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my thoughts too

the reason for the road tax is to build, improve and maintain the infrastructure..( unless i am mistaken).. so the heavier the vehicle, the chances of damage is higher… take lorries as an example… but because of public services, their taxes won’t be too high… if for private vehicles, am sure it’s high..
coming back to EV, i think the cc vs weight should be taken into account while computing…
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:25 PM

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actually /k really thinking ev road tax gonna be higher than ICE? government is pushing for ev, of course it will be cheaper
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 31 2024, 01:00 PM)
Ni bukan dengki.
Tapi hakikat.

It is illogical for rich people to be taxed less than the unfortune people.
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got another way.

dont be poor
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Timber @ Mar 31 2024, 01:53 PM)
Government trying to encourage EV adoption.

In return people use less fuel. Less fuel less subsidy, less subsidy leak more savings in long term
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next headache more people stealing power
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post Mar 31 2024, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 31 2024, 01:00 PM)
Ni bukan dengki.
Tapi hakikat.

It is illogical for rich people to be taxed less than the unfortune people.
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EV will not be rich only toy when P1/P2 start producing , allowed <100k EV enter and ron95 cap removed

it will be become like china which most of taxi and Didi is EV as petrol is more expensive

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post Mar 31 2024, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Mar 31 2024, 05:27 PM)
next headache more people stealing power
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I think this will be easier to trace compared to those smuggle diesel at the border
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post Mar 31 2024, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 31 2024, 05:28 PM)
EV will not be rich only toy when P1/P2 start producing , allowed <100k EV enter and ron95 cap removed

it will be become like china which most of taxi and Didi is EV as petrol is more expensive
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what if price of petrol crash once over supply?

America still keeping huge reserves and Malaysia got plenty untap oil which China want to sapu

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post Mar 31 2024, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Mar 31 2024, 07:18 PM)
what if price of petrol crash once over supply?

America still keeping huge reserves and Malaysia got plenty untap oil which China want to sapu
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EV adoption is to "workaround" to current high petrol price .. but Malaysia is a bit awkward as our main electricity source still using gas ,coal and fossil fuel instead of nuclear reactor

if petrol crash then ma good lor

whoever bought EV ; continue charge with electricity la
whoever remain on ICE ; can get cheaper petrol and doesnt burden on gov due to subsidy

BUT our ringgit still kind of correlating with crude oil price ..so you need to foresee ringgit will go holland if crude oil crash

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 31 2024, 07:43 PM
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post Mar 31 2024, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 31 2024, 12:58 PM)
"Toy" for the rich.

Why should the majority of people subsidize rich people?

Rich people = less tax for them
Poor/Middle people = more tax for them.

-.- So much kemadanian terserlah here....
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Kalau tak da duit, beli Axia je. Road tax kan RM90. Fuel sebulan RM200 je.
Kalau tak da duit, jangan la denggi T20, be humble, learn from them, grow with them then become a T20 yourself.

The tax structure it's been there for decades, just only EV cars are new tech hence need restructure of the tax.
NETR are one of the EV perks, join EV lar if you able to when the price is lowered after 2025.
You can prepare and brace the future when your times is come.

There is nothing to complain about.



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post Mar 31 2024, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Mar 31 2024, 05:11 PM)
Actually its name is Lesen. Kenderaan Motor or licence for owning a motorized vehicle paid to RTD. It is not a tax actually. Only people call it road tax. You can check in myjpj app.
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That’s true. Thanks for pointing out!

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