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post Mar 20 2024, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 20 2024, 10:23 PM)
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No la. No sabotage at all.

PN voice out u bising. PN diam pun u bising jugak. So mau apa ni ?

For me Umno take this opportunity to gain back malay support. but i dont think successful la becoz malay already all out supporting Pas.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 20 2024, 10:23 PM)
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pfizer guy already know but evasive. In another thread I asked why not PAS come in and take the high ground and "forgive" KK mart, he straight away say I'm an extremist biggrin.gif
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It is very possible this is a straight shootout between UMNO Youth Chief and Bersatu Youth Chief, KK mart just a pawn sacrifice. I'll just leave this here biggrin.gif


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post Mar 20 2024, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 20 2024, 06:51 PM)
If it was an act of sabotage, who will be the biggest winner when kk mart goes down? Your culprit would have to be the one who gains the most.

This was an honest mistake. Being im in the same field but playing a different game, this was a truly stupid mistake not to be done by any businessman.
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Feels like an honest mistake. Then again timing is quite coincidental.

In recent years been noticing peak R&R happening during puasa month and upcoming elections.
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post Mar 21 2024, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 20 2024, 09:19 PM)
The minor gainers are leeches. What ts is proposing is serious. If it was sabotage, do you think KK will take this lying down? For the shop, i would wager minimum CCTV is 2 weeks. Warehouses usually store them much longer. Mine personally lasts a month.

Investigation that went underway is trying to establish from warehouse to shop. You try to plant some dumb sock there in that chain, you would get caught. you think they dont have batch numbers? Even for my small ops i have honeywell scanners. You think KK is small? And KK is doing its own investigation. They've apologized. You think they just apologized without going through their legal?

This was an honest mistake in my books. If it is/was, its on the owner. Lets just take it for what it is.
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You think it is easy to catch the culprit with just 1 month worth of cctv footage & batches to find that FIVE Pairs out of 18,800, I can understand if they ordered this variation in huge bulk, but this is only 5 units + after passing so many hands for inbound/outbound inventory inspections through various warehouses till it reaches the shelf not a single Muslim staff notice this is inappropriate and seeks managers advise to review this item to be put on the shelf? And it could also have been there since months or years ago that makes the investigations even tougher.

How would you know the legal would not advised them to apologize publicly first? Look at whoever spoke for them only escalated the matter even more imagine if they said we still investigating not willing to apologize publicly would the public have the patience to wait for the investigations?

I do not want to conclude it is confirmed a sabotage, it could be a mistake too but I also do not want to rule out it being possibly a sabotage seeing how all stars in the universe aligned on such small odd of 0.02% chance of public spotting it appearing in same area + manage to viral the issue.

In the end of the day we are just a bunch of people speculating the possibility which we do not have any proof, even there is investigations on the way I doubt it will be enough to keep the boycott gang/politicians calm. Let's not be conclusive without proof, you can keep the opinion to yourself.
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post Mar 21 2024, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 20 2024, 11:30 PM)
Feels like an honest mistake. Then again timing is quite coincidental.

In recent years been noticing peak R&R happening during puasa month and upcoming elections.
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Its very sad. But thats how i feel about it. It is an honest mistake.

And every year a lot of past issues are dug out again and recycled onto media channels. We are so polarised now.
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post Mar 21 2024, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 21 2024, 12:24 AM)
You think it is easy to catch the culprit with just 1 month worth of cctv footage & batches to find that FIVE Pairs out of 18,800, I can understand if they ordered this variation in huge bulk, but this is only 5 units + after passing so many hands for inbound/outbound inventory inspections through various warehouses till it reaches the shelf not a single Muslim staff notice this is inappropriate and seeks managers advise to review this item to be put on the shelf? And it could also have been there since months or years ago that makes the investigations even tougher.

How would you know the legal would not advised them to apologize publicly first? Look at whoever spoke for them only escalated the matter even more imagine if they said we still investigating not willing to apologize publicly would the public have the patience to wait for the investigations?

I do not want to conclude it is confirmed a sabotage, it could be a mistake too but I also do not want to rule out it being possibly a sabotage seeing how all stars in the universe aligned on such small odd of 0.02% chance of public spotting it appearing in same area + manage to viral the issue.

In the end of the day we are just a bunch of people speculating the possibility which we do not have any proof, even there is investigations on the way I doubt it will be enough to keep the boycott gang/politicians calm. Let's not be conclusive without proof, you can keep the opinion to yourself.
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What are you on about. That last sentence, you might want to practice what you preach.

Anyways, do you know what is KK's turnover? You think they dont have legal counsel? And you have so many what ifs innuendos.

At the end of the day; they apologized. They admitted. That's it. Why are you so adamant its sabotage? This was just a mistake. If it was sabotage, KK would come out and say so. They're investigating this as well you know.

But hey man, whatever floats your boat.
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post Mar 21 2024, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 21 2024, 12:28 AM)
Its very sad. But thats how i feel about it. It is an honest mistake.

And every year a lot of past issues are dug out again and recycled onto media channels. We are so polarised now.
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Sad state of our country. Politicians manipulate rakyat until most rakyat few wires lose.

Below is summary of how our nation reacts to issues nowadays. Shows how divided we are as a nation.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 20 2024, 06:34 PM)
I don’t understand how most non can see this was obviously unintentional on kk mart but from media reports and socmed sentiment its the opposite for malays. For them it seems obviously intentional.
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post Mar 21 2024, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 21 2024, 12:38 AM)
Sad state of our country. Politicians manipulate rakyat until most rakyat few wires lose.

Below is summary of how our nation reacts to issues nowadays. Shows how divided we are as a nation.
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I think majority malays also feel its unintentional and this is just how they react. There are some who really believe it is intentional. But at this cost? Seems unlikely.

No one sane, whos running this sort and size of a business would go to do this and ruin everything. This wont make sense. Again, could have been a misprint or whatever but i think they've already run the batches and it is what it is.

And the leeches who are fanning the flame are the real problem. And /k has become really toxic due to this.

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post Mar 21 2024, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 21 2024, 12:45 AM)
I think majority malays also feel its unintentional and this is just how they react. There are some who really believe it is intentional. But at this cost? Seems unlikely.

No one sane, whos running this sort and size of a business would go to do this and ruin everything. This wont make sense. Again, could have been a misprint or whatever but i think they've already run the batches and it is what it is.

And the leeches who are fanning the flame are the real problem. And /k has become really toxic due to this.
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Previously worked in office with ~50% Malays. When big R&R issues like this crop up, I will go ask them and they almost never feel like what online comments and news reports say. Almost all will say they don't really bother and the noise are mostly from shit stirrers. All sick and tired of this shit.

Maybe they're lying to my face to avoid hurting feelings. Or my "survey group" all not warmongering kind. Who knows. But I choose to believe those interactions over what I read online.
But racist /k very adamant ALL Malays feel like that because of the few racist Malays lurking here, as evidenced by comments since this blew up. That's why everyday got racist royal rumble here from every race.

Like you said, no one sane will self sabotage own business knowing how R&R sensitive this nation is. A non who doesn't know this sensitivity most likely just migrated here tongue.gif
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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 21 2024, 12:37 AM)
What are you on about. That last sentence, you might want to practice what you preach.

Anyways, do you know what is KK's turnover? You think they dont have legal counsel? And you have so many what ifs innuendos.

At the end of the day; they apologized. They admitted. That's it. Why are you so adamant its sabotage? This was just a mistake. If it was sabotage, KK would come out and say so. They're investigating this as well you know.

But hey man, whatever floats your boat.
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Public apology is usually done in safer manner with intention to calm the storm.

Yes they admit they apologize in hope of this doesn't escalate and continue the investigations in the background, they even emphasized they did not intentionally ordered the socks.

The excuses they came out considering the time they took from viral to made public apology quite likely it is not being deep dived, they just took each other word for it like the supplier said its from China, while the China management said it could be a mistake to brush it off just like when u buy online receiving wrong products.

But if you would like to just take the public announcement as it is then it is a bit pointless for you to insist your stance here, the reason why this topic is opened is to discuss the odd, although it is still pointless in reality if KK mart have no interest or proof to take this approach.

Just like Najib time he deny all wrongdoing back then in public but many people did not take his word for it and look at today where he is ended with.
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post Mar 21 2024, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 21 2024, 12:45 AM)
I think majority malays also feel its unintentional and this is just how they react. There are some who really believe it is intentional. But at this cost? Seems unlikely.

No one sane, whos running this sort and size of a business would go to do this and ruin everything. This wont make sense. Again, could have been a misprint or whatever but i think they've already run the batches and it is what it is.

And the leeches who are fanning the flame are the real problem. And /k has become really toxic due to this.
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Not everything can use logic. If use logic then alvin tan wont perform such silly things already. And chiok wai loong wun do that already as also any sane person will not do that also. But 1 thing for sure their crisis management team is weak to handle such sudden big issue.
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 21 2024, 01:04 AM)
Previously worked in office with ~50% Malays. When big R&R issues like this crop up, I will go ask them and they almost never feel like what online comments and news reports say. Almost all will say they don't really bother and the noise are mostly from shit stirrers. All sick and tired of this shit.

Maybe they're lying to my face to avoid hurting feelings. Or my "survey group" all not warmongering kind. Who knows. But I choose to believe those interactions over what I read online.
But racist /k very adamant ALL Malays feel like that because of the few racist Malays lurking here, as evidenced by comments since this blew up. That's why everyday got racist royal rumble here from every race.

Like you said, no one sane will self sabotage own business knowing how R&R sensitive this nation is. A non who doesn't know this sensitivity most likely just migrated here  tongue.gif
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Tar Kee Ya.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Mar 21 2024, 01:21 AM)
Not everything can use logic. If use logic then alvin tan wont perform such silly things already. And chiok wai loong wun do that already as also any sane person will not do that also. But 1 thing for sure their crisis management team is weak to handle such sudden big issue.
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And Lam Chang Nam wouldn't have tried to extort Pastor Koh's family.
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QUOTE(differ @ Mar 21 2024, 01:30 AM)
And Lam Chang Nam wouldn't have tried to extort Pastor Koh's family.
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Elizabeth Voong Ai Lin is proven to slandered own family member on forum. But you dont have proof Lam did it.

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Mar 21 2024, 01:33 AM)
Elizabeth Voong Ai Lin is proven to slandered own family member on forum. But you dont have proof Lam did it.
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Kesian her, always kena slander by the Scammer Lam.
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So this is the plot for hostile takeover......
Execute much better than the US-Tik Tok fiasco
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 21 2024, 12:24 AM)
You think it is easy to catch the culprit with just 1 month worth of cctv footage & batches to find that FIVE Pairs out of 18,800, I can understand if they ordered this variation in huge bulk, but this is only 5 units + after passing so many hands for inbound/outbound inventory inspections through various warehouses till it reaches the shelf not a single Muslim staff notice this is inappropriate and seeks managers advise to review this item to be put on the shelf? And it could also have been there since months or years ago that makes the investigations even tougher.

How would you know the legal would not advised them to apologize publicly first? Look at whoever spoke for them only escalated the matter even more imagine if they said we still investigating not willing to apologize publicly would the public have the patience to wait for the investigations?

I do not want to conclude it is confirmed a sabotage, it could be a mistake too but I also do not want to rule out it being possibly a sabotage seeing how all stars in the universe aligned on such small odd of 0.02% chance of public spotting it appearing in same area + manage to viral the issue.

In the end of the day we are just a bunch of people speculating the possibility which we do not have any proof, even there is investigations on the way I doubt it will be enough to keep the boycott gang/politicians calm. Let's not be conclusive without proof, you can keep the opinion to yourself.
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The odds of it being spotted just depends on how many is displayed at one time and how many are sold each day from the batch. Itll eventually be spotted because im going to say that theres practically zero non muslims who would buy and wear socks with someone elses god on it, and there wont be any muslim who would either - they would be the ones offended.

If both groups continued buying all the other socks apart from the 5 above, no matter where the 5 socks are in the sequence, it will be displayed as display units get replenished. It just takes one muslim to notice it.

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