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post Mar 20 2024, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 20 2024, 06:51 PM)
If it was an act of sabotage, who will be the biggest winner when kk mart goes down? Your culprit would have to be the one who gains the most.

This was an honest mistake. Being im in the same field but playing a different game, this was a truly stupid mistake not to be done by any businessman.
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Who benefit from it? Try see who being more vocal and getting more support + exposure today. Not saying they set this up but anyone who ride on this benefit from it.

Sometimes it is also not about benefit, it could be a simple revenge too. Say some staff get layoff for poor performance wanted a revenge.

The more it went viral it is encouraging more people in future to sabotage people's business for their own gain.

Just like this year Boycott have just becoming a thing recently and it encouraging more and more people to nitpick on little thing to find excuse to boycott other people business.


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QUOTE(insan_kamil @ Mar 20 2024, 07:02 PM)
The real issue is the over reaction. But thats the game here. Businesses dont change the rules nor they intend to do so. They just play the game. The only way to play is to not mess up at this particular level.

Some minor actors who gain are politicians, preachers and you name em. They are the ones making this worse. This will be cyclical and in my limited understanding of branding and presence, i think they've peaked.
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they gonna be in trouble i believe. to start with they are already very expensive. most ppl go there just to buy controlled priced item. with the boycott, gonna be worse. not sure how long they can tahan.
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its a multibillions industry
sabotage is cheapest way to take out competition
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5446540/

Whoever wants to print the face of Buddha (or Jesus) on a carpet and step on it??

Actually I don't feel that it's a big thing, be it they are only trying to clean their feet, or trying to insult or humiliate anyone or another religion?? (If we refused to acknowledge them who want to humiliate or insult us, the insult AND humiliation will 101% return to the sender.)

Similarly, I feel that even printing such images on underwear and then try to sell it to me (together with the instructions to wear it on my head as some kinda headgear). I also don't see why I or anyone for that matter, should feel the NEED to feel insulted?

I will take these actions: either refuse to buy.

Or even if I buy them, I wouldn't put it on my head la. Simple AND straightforward!

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Mar 20 2024, 07:02 PM)
The world does not revolve around you la. Just because u are ok with it doesn’t means everyone is ok with it. It’s like saying since India is a country where the men think it’s ok to rape and sexually assault women, so let’s go for rape rampage here, because it’s ok.

Whether you are a religious or not religious person, it IS a big and sensitive thing. That’s where common sense comes into play and separate normal person and idiots. Anyone who think otherwise should just knock their head on the door.
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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KYZjh8Z8T8cDwHWz/

First and foremost, which section of what religious scriptures?? Is it stated ANYWHERE that printing sensitive stuff on socks is evidence of insensitivity? Or of disrespect?

I tell you what can constitute an insult: if some words were printed on underwear 🩳🩲🩲 and the seller gave you instructions to wear it on your head as some kinda headgear?? Ok, he might be trying to insult or humiliate you la. But of course it's your choice to wanna listen to him or not, no??

Some people claim that wearing the socks is an insult?? WHY. Why should anyone be so easy to insult and/or excitable? Because of the much more superior or supportive intelligence of the creators, izit??

Secondly, the words could be "ALL - ah", "all AH" or "AI lah" (AI = Artificial Intelligence lah) just that the printer got the punctuation and big vs small letters confused?? Please prove my hypothesis wrong first before you get worked up and hurl accusations.

Thirdly the KK Mart boss has already issued an apology for this oversight?? And also detailed steps in his company's SOPs to avoid this kinda mistake in future, no? What more do you want? Set the shop on fire??

Fourthly, the boss of Dr. A is the president of UMNO, no?? Why is the Youth Chief ignoring his bosses' advice so blatantly? What exactly is this fact saying about UMNO or the Muslim community?

Fifth fact: is this Dr. A more powderful than both his bosses, Jakim and the royal families such as the Sultan of Selangor or Ah Gong? I think everyone can tell that he's only trying to 捞取廉价的政治资本 from this fiasco??

Sixth fact: the police have already received the reports from some people of the Muslim community?? Give the police time to investigate and determine what action to take la!! Whole incident is macam like the KK Mart chain had done THAT on purpose?? Come on, it's their first incident of negligence! Why would they wanna do THAT on purpose?? What benefit or advantage would THAT give them? If you are hell bent on setting the chain on fire, I tell you: ALL the workers in the supermarket chain will suffer. Without any exception, EVERYONE of them.

Seventhly, I also know that it's the Ramadan month. But what kinda values is the Holy month trying to inculcate in both the followers and the observers?? To get easily insulted and excited? To stir up controversy and hatred, izit??

Last but not least, I know that this is not the first time such so-called insulting of religious creators (or creatures) happened?? Most likely it also won't be the last time.

But I would like to draw up an analogy with the road traffic conditions: it's heavy traffic on all the roads. And the Hindus (or Indians) are like riding motorbikes doing Grab food deliveries? Chinese people are driving small sedan cars trying to fetch the kids to schools and/or the old folks to the hospitals for medical reasons. While the majority of this country are like driving lorries or eight tonnes oil tankers?? But what is their driving style like? Just because your lorry is empty (or fully loaded), you think you can and should speed or ram your vehicles around?? (While certain Westerners aka white people are flying here and there in their helicopters la.)

Last of the last, if you ended up causing your Muslim, Hindu or Christian brothers to lose their jobs in the Holy month?? Is it considered acts of merits or virtues.

Allow me to share: what I feel might be more virtuous deeds for this Raya. If you can afford it, do give some socks FOC to the poor, or the school kids in poorer areas?? If you want, you can also get the factory to print your family name on the said socks “双木林”、“木子李”、“国家郭”、“耳可阿”、“享耳郭”、“草祭蔡” 或是 “阿拉丁”。

Just a bit of sharing, from my personal POV.

Speaking of instructions?? Are there instructions that come together with the said socks? I strongly doubt do.

(Instructions such as: put on the left sock first then the right side. Or: wear two socks (or more) on both feet, for maximum comfort and safety??? Or: roll up the right sock first and insert the toes inside. Slowly unroll the sock on the right foot. Repeat on the other foot.)

SO.

Where's the insult? WHAT HUMILIATION? Where's the proof that he has any intention to insult or humiliate anyone??

If you like the socks, then you can buy them, bring them to the mosque and request the ustaz (or guru) to bless them. Bring it home and get it a special place in your house?? Called the altars? Then if you pray piously enough, the words on the socks will bless you and your entire family! Make all the aches in either your feet, or even other parts of your body DISAPPEAR, no??

He didn't sell the socks and tell the buyers what to do with the items!! So it's totally up to the purchasers to decide what they want or need to do with the item.

This post has been edited by Adelyyne: Mar 20 2024, 08:55 PM
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post Mar 20 2024, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 20 2024, 06:16 PM)
Malu of BKT issue need something big to cover, also Agog aldy say no more politik game then use religion during holly month.

But this time Opposition all ppl krik krik krik diam diam
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actually i heard from the grapevine KK boss is actually very close to PN ppl. Alot of funding channeled to PN. So if really the case, sabotage by umno now has a clear motive. Also PN ppl not even a sound is very unnatural. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 20 2024, 06:08 PM)
Somehow smells fishy. 18000 sock, 5 pair and 881 outlet and somehow some sharp eye religion protector can spot the offending example at that one particular branch in sunway. And immediately post on socmed and then zakir naik protege noticed it. I mean how often does one shop for socks at kk mart?

And too coincidental that the issue is viraled up right at beginning of Ramadan and then a concerted non stop attack campaign.

My senses tell me something not right. Too convenient a bullet for some ppl who wants to make an r&r issue to score points.
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QUOTE(Adelyyne @ Mar 20 2024, 08:53 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5446540/

Whoever wants to print the face of Buddha (or Jesus) on a carpet and step on it??

Actually I don't feel that it's a big thing, be it they are only trying to clean their feet, or trying to insult or humiliate anyone or another religion?? (If we refused to acknowledge them who want to humiliate or insult us, the insult AND humiliation will 101% return to the sender.)

Similarly, I feel that even printing such images on underwear and then try to sell it to me (together with the instructions to wear it on my head as some kinda headgear). I also don't see why I or anyone for that matter, should feel the NEED to feel insulted?

I will take these actions: either refuse to buy.

Or even if I buy them, I wouldn't put it on my head la. Simple AND straightforward!
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/KYZjh8Z8T8cDwHWz/

First and foremost, which section of what religious scriptures?? Is it stated ANYWHERE that printing sensitive stuff on socks is evidence of insensitivity? Or of disrespect?

I tell you what can constitute an insult: if some words were printed on underwear 🩳🩲🩲 and the seller gave you instructions to wear it on your head as some kinda headgear?? Ok, he might be trying to insult or humiliate you la. But of course it's your choice to wanna listen to him or not, no??

Some people claim that wearing the socks is an insult?? WHY. Why should anyone be so easy to insult and/or excitable? Because of the much more superior or supportive intelligence of the creators, izit??

Secondly, the words could be "ALL - ah", "all AH" or "AI lah" (AI = Artificial Intelligence lah) just that the printer got the punctuation and big vs small letters confused?? Please prove my hypothesis wrong first before you get worked up and hurl accusations.

Thirdly the KK Mart boss has already issued an apology for this oversight?? And also detailed steps in his company's SOPs to avoid this kinda mistake in future, no? What more do you want? Set the shop on fire??

Fourthly, the boss of Dr. A is the president of UMNO, no?? Why is the Youth Chief ignoring his bosses' advice so blatantly? What exactly is this fact saying about UMNO or the Muslim community?

Fifth fact: is this Dr. A more powderful than both his bosses, Jakim and the royal families such as the Sultan of Selangor or Ah Gong? I think everyone can tell that he's only trying to 捞取廉价的政治资本 from this fiasco??

Sixth fact: the police have already received the reports from some people of the Muslim community?? Give the police time to investigate and determine what action to take la!! Whole incident is macam like the KK Mart chain had done THAT on purpose?? Come on, it's their first incident of negligence! Why would they wanna do THAT on purpose?? What benefit or advantage would THAT give them? If you are hell bent on setting the chain on fire, I tell you: ALL the workers in the supermarket chain will suffer. Without any exception, EVERYONE of them.

Seventhly, I also know that it's the Ramadan month. But what kinda values is the Holy month trying to inculcate in both the followers and the observers?? To get easily insulted and excited? To stir up controversy and hatred, izit??

Last but not least, I know that this is not the first time such so-called insulting of religious creators (or creatures) happened?? Most likely it also won't be the last time.

But I would like to draw up an analogy with the road traffic conditions: it's heavy traffic on all the roads. And the Hindus (or Indians) are like riding motorbikes doing Grab food deliveries? Chinese people are driving small sedan cars trying to fetch the kids to schools and/or the old folks to the hospitals for medical reasons. While the majority of this country are like driving lorries or eight tonnes oil tankers?? But what is their driving style like? Just because your lorry is empty (or fully loaded), you think you can and should speed or ram your vehicles around?? (While certain Westerners aka white people are flying here and there in their helicopters la.)

Last of the last, if you ended up causing your Muslim, Hindu or Christian brothers to lose their jobs in the Holy month?? Is it considered acts of merits or virtues.

Allow me to share: what I feel might be more virtuous deeds for this Raya. If you can afford it, do give some socks FOC to the poor, or the school kids in poorer areas?? If you want, you can also get the factory to print your family name on the said socks “双木林”、“木子李”、“国家郭”、“耳可阿”、“享耳郭”、“草祭蔡” 或是 “阿拉丁”。

Just a bit of sharing, from my personal POV.

Speaking of instructions?? Are there instructions that come together with the said socks? I strongly doubt do.

(Instructions such as: put on the left sock first then the right side. Or: wear two socks (or more) on both feet, for maximum comfort and safety??? Or: roll up the right sock first and insert the toes inside. Slowly unroll the sock on the right foot. Repeat on the other foot.)

SO.

Where's the insult? WHAT HUMILIATION? Where's the proof that he has any intention to insult or humiliate anyone??

If you like the socks, then you can buy them, bring them to the mosque and request the ustaz (or guru) to bless them. Bring it home and get it a special place in your house?? Called the altars? Then if you pray piously enough, the words on the socks will bless you and your entire family! Make all the aches in either your feet, or even other parts of your body DISAPPEAR, no??

He didn't sell the socks and tell the buyers what to do with the items!! So it's totally up to the purchasers to decide what they want or need to do with the item.
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Write so much but nothing except for ignorance. Truly cina bukit behavior right here
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post Mar 20 2024, 09:03 PM

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Kunji Naik suppose to extradite to Yindian but that telolist is still fapping happily. An actual telolist is respected but one mistake kena condemn . I think non should suppork kk mart unker but ask unker sell his alco cheaper la

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Mar 20 2024, 06:35 PM)
but the affected socks were also found in xin jian chang's warehouse in batu pahat, so the saboteurs go into the warehouse in batu pahat n put the socks in?
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I won't be surprised some covert Talibun agenda to rile up the grassroot as they are very easily triggered.

This post has been edited by lordgamer3: Mar 20 2024, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Mar 20 2024, 09:07 PM)
I won't be surprised some covert Talibun agenda to rile up the grassroot as they are very easily triggered.
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Lmao u sound like one of those meleis with their agenda cina/yahudi
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After this put pork in naki pakistan
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https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/700086

Manufacturer already admitted exporting the socks?

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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Mar 20 2024, 09:08 PM)
https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/700086

Manufacturer already admitted exporting the socks?
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so, the problem is from china la. i hope malaysia gov have the guts to cut the diplomatic ties with china
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Misdirection...misdirection is a form of deception in which the performer draws audience attention to one thing to distract it from another.

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Mar 20 2024, 06:11 PM)
Dah dah

Idiots will always be idiots.

Move on.
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QUOTE(kcal @ Mar 20 2024, 09:11 PM)
so, the problem is from china la. i hope malaysia gov have the guts to cut the diplomatic ties with china
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y not cut with US? nobody dares.
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QUOTE(247365 @ Mar 20 2024, 09:14 PM)
y not cut with US? nobody dares.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 20 2024, 07:07 PM)
Who benefit from it? Try see who being more vocal and getting more support + exposure today. Not saying they set this up but anyone who ride on this benefit from it.

Sometimes it is also not about benefit, it could be a simple revenge too. Say some staff get layoff for poor performance wanted a revenge.

The more it went viral it is encouraging more people in future to sabotage people's business for their own gain.

Just like this year Boycott have just becoming a thing recently and it encouraging more and more people to nitpick on little thing to find excuse to boycott other people business.
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The minor gainers are leeches. What ts is proposing is serious. If it was sabotage, do you think KK will take this lying down? For the shop, i would wager minimum CCTV is 2 weeks. Warehouses usually store them much longer. Mine personally lasts a month.

Investigation that went underway is trying to establish from warehouse to shop. You try to plant some dumb sock there in that chain, you would get caught. you think they dont have batch numbers? Even for my small ops i have honeywell scanners. You think KK is small? And KK is doing its own investigation. They've apologized. You think they just apologized without going through their legal?

This was an honest mistake in my books. If it is/was, its on the owner. Lets just take it for what it is.
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