I was planning to get an MBP before they announce Leopard. But now since they launched it, I heard news that Apple is releasing a better version of MBP to accommodate Leopard.

So the question is, is it true that Apple is launching a new version of MBP? Because with all the new features in Leopard, I'm afraid that the current MBP will not be powerful enough for the future programs of Leopard.

I'm planning to buy it with my own money and this machine will be my only laptop to use till..maybe 6 or 7 years down the road so I gotta make sure with you guys

if you NEED IT, GET IT now! or else you will stuck in infinite cycle of waiting for the next update....

6-7 years is a loooooong time. I suggest you buy a Macbook instead of a MBP, then buy a new Macbook in 3 years. Price wise it's about the same, but you get a decent new Mac in ~3 years when the next OS is out.

Go read up Leopard reviews btw, most people said it's not a must have upgrade.

I wanted to do this as well..but..hmm I forgot what was the reason that made me abandon this plan.

Let me go look around

edit:
Just remembered, MB doesn't have a graphics card that doesn't share memory but MBP does :\

This post has been edited by Peanutz: Oct 29 2007, 08:58 PM

If you can wait, wait till MacWorld next year which is more likely the next update of MBP line (with new Intel processor)

I just got mine last week. now installing Leopard. hehe

just keep in mind that OS X is not like Windows. I'm currently using Leopard on my 2 year old Powerbook (PPC @ 1.67Ghz), and it works fine just like it did when I was using Tiger before.

To put things into perspective, I'm running Leopard on a 12" Powerbook G4 1.5Ghz. I know someone who's running it on an iBook, forgot CPU speed but less than mine (1.5Ghz PPC). Know a few more others whose Macs came preinstalled with Panther (10.3) and they're all running 10.5 all fine and dandy now, too.

If we both run Leopard just fine and dandy and snappy, what more worry about MBP not being powerful enough for Leopard and future releases of OSX. If you're running a PowerPC mac then I might understand your worry, but MBP? Good for another 6 more years and 3-4 more OS updates. Seriously.

Dude u asked the exact question I' have been considering for the past few days now.

I have heard rumors of a new penryn processor that will be used by apple. And new macs integrating the new processors may be launched as early as Jan 2008.

Now I can wait, but not for too long as I can only wait till Feb 2008 when I will be leaving Malaysia. I'd prefer to get my MBP by then..

I have no idea if I should wait or not, if the new MBPs dont release by then... my waiting will be all in vain.. =.=...

*sigh*

I'm planning to get one MBP too. Just waiting for the pre-installed Leopard. Can I know that you got your MBP with Leopard?

Why not ask the shop to bundle the upgrade for free .. don't think the shop really mind to just spend RM39 as give away to clear up their current stock .. haggle and most probably you'll get the upgrade FOC (and MBP is not cheap either ).

From Machines MV? They have the DVD bundle that can free for us? Hehe...Try to call them tomorrow. Coz, I can't wait for the Leopard...Just affraid no such promotions and the sales person there cannot make this decision.

This post has been edited by kksleo: Oct 30 2007, 12:31 AM

Haha djspinnet, your post is exactly what I'm looking for.

You see, I'm a PC user since..ever. And I was thinking based on the mentality of XP --> Vista and how much resource that Vista is eating now. So I was quick to judge Leopard's resource eating "habit".

TF: If whatever you said is true, then I don't mind waiting for Jan08 as well. Just a couple of months to go only anyway. Hopefully that rumour you heard is real

Lol yea... but hands abit gatal... hard to tahan.. and if it turns out that its not real.. abit wasted also.. so.. ish.. dunno

The news about Penryn chips is very tempting. Now that we are all using 65nm type, which produce lots of heat if compared to the speculated 45nm type, which is Penryn, which uses different type of technology that makes the electric stays at the right place and reduce the unnecessary heat.

45nm is coming out next year. but i think it will take a while for Apple to include it in their machine. and it will take a while before they are satisfied with testing it with Macbook. 35nm is coming out around next year too. which is even smaller and better.

My point is, buy if you want. Dont wait, Macbook pro line is among the best already. I doubt you only want to keep abreast with technology? because the technology improve as the clock tick. unlike other brand, Mac can at least stay fresh and up to date for as much as 5 years. and people wont say your mac is outdate.

5 years is like 1825 days, divide it with RM 4999. That will be around RM3 per day for 5 years time. Sounds like a good deal for me. Even if i go to cafe everyday, i would spend more than that. (of course i dont, anymore)

Just pray it wont spoil.



This post has been edited by shoguniphicus: Oct 30 2007, 06:51 AM

the rumors going around saying the macbook will be revise soon.
source
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=66896
and
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php...threadid=372954
so why dont you wait for a few weeks, and see.
anyhow, i perfer you buy your mac later because all mac will come with leopard, which is good.

Yeah .. wait for a few weeks .. Heard that a lot when I want to buy my MBP .. and it took me .. a .. 5 yrs to finally bought it .. hee..hee.. worth the waiting? Well .. sort of .. since I could get a student discount with 3 yrs warranty when I got mine But to tell you the truth .. nothing is worth waiting for .. if you want to get it .. get it now .. you'll wait forever for sure.. haven't heard any rumor on updated MBP ..

This post has been edited by wiraone: Oct 30 2007, 12:06 PM

shoguniphicus: RM4999? MBP so cheap back in Malaysia? Can you help me confirm the price of both the 15inch MBP? Cause over here it's RM8000 onwards (even after education discount :\) edit: nvm, I saw the price thread. Hmm..RM7499, is that before or after student discount?

I realise too that you can never get in front of the queue in terms of technological advancement, but maybe I can just get a few places in front so that I can get a better version one for the same price. And also to not kick myself in the arse later when they release a better version of MBP

kokyun: The first link you provided is out of date, but the second one is current. I'll wait till 6th Nov and see

I'm not too worried about Apple not shipping MBP with Leopard cause all Macs in Aussie comes with Leopard if you purchase after 26th Oct.

This post has been edited by Peanutz: Oct 30 2007, 12:59 PM

ow my bad, i didnt really read the poster's post correectly. Yea you are right. with installment that add on about 3%, it will end up 8000+. i am just so so sorry.

Because i read the previous and previous posters, they only mention macbook and macbook and kinda messed up with other posts.

i got mine at 8000+ too.

The Rm7499 is for promotion when the second generation mbp about to come out. now the standard price would be 7799. i supposed.

This post has been edited by shoguniphicus: Oct 30 2007, 01:44 PM

When the next batch of MBP will be reached? So long needed to wait for Leopard!

not within this few months. go to macrumors. they show us the timeline for each upgrade, quite helpful.

Boo

No harm though, RM7799 is still a pretty neat price to pay. With this Toshiba I'm using is already nearly 5 years, with an MBP, I expect at least 6 without problems (hopefully). So that'll be like RM3.50 a day

Save rm3.5 everyday, starts from now! and you will enough to buy another mac home in six years to come!

*i am already saving!

I wonder if Apple Malaysia will reprice the new upcoming Macs now that the USD-RM exchange rate is lower.... you could be saving less than RM3.50 per day

Er.. what 'fun' is there in having to wait 6 YEARS?! *grins* Now is Now !!!

*starts saving for Leopard* [thank God it's not in the 4 figure mark otherwise it'll just be a longer wait! *sigh*] Like i said, what's the fun in having to wait?! Ah well, too bad Unc Lim didn't include me in his will

urm.. i have my mbp just a few months old.
that's why i can wait.

yea! ;p

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Added on October 31, 2007, 9:08 ami was refering to those who already own a mac, can own future mac if they save now and throw away their old mac, or give them to their child or something. hehe.

This post has been edited by shoguniphicus: Oct 31 2007, 09:08 AM

Or maybe I should ask a friend who studies in the US to help me buy or something? It's cheaper by nearly a thousand bucks. But will the warranty work in Malaysia or Aust?

@Peanutz,
As long as it's 'mobile', International Warranty applies [and iMacs are NOT considered mobile! - it's carry-able BUT it's definitely NOT mobile! And I think it applies to MacMini too *shrugs* - just check the warranty label to be 100% sure].

All I can say is that it's quite safe if you're looking at the iPods, MBs or MBPs. Oh, and well, perhaps original softwares too? *grins*

@shoguniphicus,
RM3.50 p/day doesn't seem too bad at all! Ok, I'm gonna start... can someone tell me how many years before I can afford that 6 series..? Come to think of it, I'm owing my Apple store $ *oopS*

new one coming out soon
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/30/rumor-new-m...e-the-holidays/
wait

tinkerbel: Yeah that's what I was thinking too But I better double check with Apple just to make sure

kokyun: Oh..my..god..if that is true, it's only 12 days away! *crosses fingers, toes, every strand of hair on my head and everything that is crossable*

This post has been edited by Peanutz: Nov 1 2007, 02:04 PM

Macbook & Macbook Pro updated.

A very minimal update, macbook pro has now got the option to get a 2.6ghz processor but you still have to pay more.

Think updates on the Macbook are much more significant though but I couldn't care less.

Hmm..somehow I still am sceptical that this upgrade for the MBP isn't the real thing yet..more of like, an "appetizer" if you know what I mean

No one focus on MBP btw.. Or only a few ppl. Ntg to upgrade for MBP. Why? It already equipped with latest hardware component. Mobile Penryn should be somewhere Feb/Mar 2008.

Yeah true. MBP's hardware is top of the line currently, even if there is an upgrade it would take a long time for it to happen.

So.... what ya waiting for?? BUYBUYBUY!!!

Apple Malaysia? There's an APPLE office/store in Malaysia? NO WAI.. you've got to be kidding

sure--> www.applemalaysia.com.my

just wait till dec or next year if you not urgently need it....

Same goes for you!

yawhong: Next year? Can't wait that long :\ My Toshiba is dying soon, I might as well take this opportunity and get myself an MBP. I'll most probably get it in PIKOM's PC Fair this coming Dec and see what they can throw in together. Maybe a nano? Haha wishful thinking here..

isn't there is rumour bout a newly-designed mac book pro? too bad if u buy too early and miss it...

if pikom pc fair this dec, and apple is selling cheap with lots of freebies, then u shud expect something new from apple a few weeks after.

It's people's comments like these makes me wanna wait longer

I've decided la, normally anything that is newly design have flaws and would take lots of trips to Apple store to fix it. So I decided to actually buy the current MBP regardless of the new design

the launch of the new intel chips are happening next year first quarter. Apple will most likely not bump up the speeds yet. Even if they do, its a difference of 200 mhz and a higher front side bus speed. one main reason for this is that they allowed 2.6 ghz speeds on mbp. If i were you, i would buy the 2.6 ones, it will definitely be able to run leopard smooth as smooth can be.

though so, dont take my word for it if you like waiting. The rumour of a 12'' macbook is a more trustworthy rumour than a new mbp

12" MB? Haha, that would be cute to own one. Nah, I prefer not to wait. Planning to get one on PIKOM's PC Fair in KLCC in Dec.

note the 12'' macbook is a tablet pc. And you know apple is super good at making multitouch stuff

Hmm.. instead of RM8k for a MBP,

why not spend RM4k on a MB for surfing, work etc.

and the remainder on a PC with a Radeon X2900 or 8800 series AGP... spending max RM3k. Almost top of the line gaming PC.

and still have RM1k to change graphics card in 4 years time.

ezralimm,

Ya know at first what you said seemed to make alot of sense. Why spend 8-9k on one mac notebook when u can spend on a mac notebook and a pc?

After some thinking however, I realized, whats the point of getting a mac if all im going to use it for are simple stuff like surfing?? might as well get a pc notebook that can save even more of my costs.

The main reason I'm getting a mac is because its the standard in the industry in my field now (multimedia). And a macbook with its average specs just won't take the processing abuse it will be going through (video editing, 3D rendering... bla bla bla).

If im going to spend that much on a mac, I'm going to take full advantage and make full use of it. But of course thats just me, maybe your solution may be just the right one for someone else out there.

Btw, don't dream too much. If you know what I meant. Rumor of 12" macbook or ultra-macbook pro with touch technology or whatever started since few years back. Now? Almost end of 2007. There's no actual "news" about that. Just Rumors and Rumors. If later on by next year (2008), there no 12" macbook, then don't be too upset lo. You will wait and wait forever.

PS: Just my thought, my speculation is probably in 2009. 2008 still too early for those touchscreen lappy

ezralimm: your post made a lot of sense to me. I don't do much video rendering and the such, getting such an expensive notebook is quite a waste of money for me. For that, I rather get the black MB. With the new Santa Rosa version and new gfx card (which I heard is better than the GMA950), it's a better choice for my current situation just slap in more RAM and I should be golden.

tf: yeah man, if you're in multimedia go for the MBP instead. Wanna get it together and chance for a discount? (highly doubt so though)

Allvin,

this is not from rumours or my donkey's arse.

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.pht...blet-real.phtml

its from ASUS

I totally agree.

If everyone in your field is using final cut, it's probably a good idea to get a mac.
But do note that for RM9k you could also get a very very high end PC.

With 10,000rpm Raptor HDDs for loading and for caching,
More than 1TB of space,
4GB ram
...and dual core2duo's.


For simple stuff like surfing, apple's are the best IMO.

Surfing on my small 12" 1Ghz ibook G4 is nicer than surfing on my windows notebook (with attached 1600x1200 22" screen!)

why?

1) Expose
2) expose
3) expose
4) reliability. browser doesnt crash as much. Java implementation very solid.

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Added on November 9, 2007, 6:49 pmoh, you're into multimedia.

In that case, get the MB and a nice BIG screen to go with it. A colour calibration tool is also a must.

Shop around a little.

Im using a plain jane Samsung 226bw right now.

Colour accuracy and contrast of desktop monitors in general compared to notebooks is so so so much better. (that's the reason i got it in the first place, for photo editing)



This post has been edited by ezralimm: Nov 9 2007, 06:49 PM

After much consideration, I plan to ask my friend in the States to help me purchase a black MB and send it over here by UPS

That way, I still manage to save around RM600. I could certainly use that to upgrade my RAM and get a sleeve for it.

Btw, apart from the adapter that is using a different head, is there any other differences from US Macbooks and Malaysia ones? Anyone knows the price for a new adapter?

why don u use those universal plug that u can purchase in universal traveller? i think it only cost about rm20 for that plus u get many different adapter

sometime you can get a secondhand MBP or a MB. that will help u to cut cost.
you can get quite a good saving sometimes.

if anyone of you are keen, pls PM me.

It is better to buy a MBP 15" 2,2 Ghz with free upgrade to 3GB RAM for RM7499 from authorized apple shop
--OR--
buy the same MBP without any free upgrade (meaning 2GB ram only) for RM7099 from Maiself (forumer here).. anyone bought fr him. Good seller?

Is 2GB ram more than enuf.>> Will the 1GB additioanal Ram make alot of difference on a MBP

This post has been edited by kc26: Dec 4 2007, 09:54 PM

who is giving u a free upgrade of 1GB?

yea.. alot if you are into virtualization software or gaming in winxp/vista (bootcamp) or "pro" video/photoshop/3D editing. For normal usage, 2Gb is pretty enough. Just moderate I would say.

Mac Studio at Low Yat Plaza. Promo from them

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Added on December 5, 2007, 10:34 amThanks. i do plant to bootcamp with vista. I guess i will go with the extra RAM.
BTW, you think installing "ahem/non orig" vista via bootcamp on my MBP will be a problem.
Do i need original OEM..??
thnks in adv

This post has been edited by kc26: Dec 5 2007, 10:34 AM

erhmm... no problem la for me. Just legal issue here. If you are doing business or what, then it is better you get the ori vista. For home user, just get you-know-what-version. Who's care about it? Unless you really "support" ori la

Thanks bro...
you know what is the latest vista home premium out there..?
Did you do vista bootcamp installation urself?
Heard alot of stories abt problem with Mac Os after installing vista via bootcamp.
Before install, no problem
You encounter such problems... true?

This post has been edited by kc26: Dec 5 2007, 02:51 PM

What do you mean by that? Vista home is vista home. Or do you mean the service pack? Just get vista home or whatever and do the update via internet.

Btw, I don't use vista. I prefer winxp more. Why? Cos' less space needed and less resource as well. If want eye-candy, i rather choose Leopard. I use windows just for gaming and programming in my macbook. So far so good, I don't have any problem with bootcamp In addition, I also use vmware to boot up the bootcamp drive.

Ahh, as I was closing the deal with my friend to help me purchase the MB I got quite unsure whether the MB will work in Malaysia.

First of all, there is the voltage and wattage difference. Will the adapter work with ours?

All in all, are there anything to look out for that I missed out? I don't wanna buy an MB from the US only to find out it doesn't work here or worse; potentially fries the MB

Thanks