I would say different ppl different taste..

Haha..i will get my car later evening.. cant sleep

did reset adaption & etc. the character is not nice for driver.
not just myself

aahhh my bad... i re read your comment... you said no like the ratio with this engine.... i mixed up with the upper comment...

indeed engine/gear ratio/driver style important... old manual gb at least some can change drive ratio to ones liking...

M sport suspension very stiff fun car to drive.

You will definitely get a culture shock when it comes to maintainence on how expensive parts are but the F20 on the whole quite reliable .

This post has been edited by lordgamer3: May 19 2024, 07:44 AM

Any Beemer above 5 years old is going to be problematic. Engine can avoid catastrophic failure if u get the right engine but the rest of the car simply falls apart

This is the problem with euro biodegradable. Back in 80s and early 90s mana Ada such thing so things were bulletproof.

So in a nutshell set aside 10k to burn if u go down the road of a 2nd hand bmw. Trust me coz I got my bmw too as second hand 4 year old but with my endless money pit, it has been keeping me smiling 8 years and counting

I've had a v8 , love the car was good fun and comfy but reliability was the most notorious one. The F20 is fine but TS need to understand that even stupid hoses are in the hundreds and what not. Which is why I am now just into Jap cause lazy to spend bmw maintainence money la.

With regards to Eurobiodegrable BS I think that was mostly the E60 and E90 era where some models those idiots use plastic waterpumps which is rather stupid to begin le but newer gen less issues but still expensive. I was looking at some comments regarding Turbo a Conti Turbo is roughly 5k MYR for the F20 so yep not that cheap.Also tyres is where TS will realise the biggest jump in cost from the Myvi.

This post has been edited by lordgamer3: May 19 2024, 08:01 AM

Also tires can’t rotate when u use staggered so pandai pandai check. Only can rotate left and right ya and depend on tire direction

If wanna save maybe China UHP tyre then. Price ÷3 vs regular brand

My personal preference is never Chinese. Tire is the only thing holding your car on the road hence tires is something I don’t skimp ever especially when u have a rwd with 440nm of torque atw. Easily spin if tire grip suck

here is a few things to consider when you're looking at the 1-series as a daily driver
the 118i will be using the newer 1.5T B38 engine
while the 120i will be using the older 1.6T N13 engine
do note that the N13 was used in all models of the 1-series from 2011 to 2015

some known problems for the b38 is higher than normal oil consumption, this might be difficult to detect though many work around is to detune the engine slightly to it runs a bit cooler and the problem magically disappears, this could be a factor of getting the most out of the 1500 lump. secondly, turbocharger rattle especially when you mostly drive it slowly then poke to move rapidly like for overtaking, this can be fixed with software. gearbox fluid can be named "lifetime" but i recommend changing it every 40k's if buying used remember to budget for a full fluid change if the car is over 5 years old if you don't have service history this includes gearbox oil, emgine oil, radiator fluid, brake fluid, etc. lastly water leaking cause is usually the fault of plastics especially the radiator hoses rotting. oem's will always be plastic too if you want to change to metal make sure it is not from kaki exhaust or some dodgy shop.

b38 is supposed to be newer and improved upon the n13 engines, however n13 being around longer does have cars using it gone through LCI already so all the bugs should have been ironed out and more quality 3rd party parts.

for me i'd go for the 120i instead of the 118i

Trim Level	Engine	Power Output	Torque	0-60 mph Acceleration	Top Speed
118i	B38	136 bhp	162 lb-ft	8.5 seconds	130 mph
120i	N13	177 bhp	184 lb-ft	7.2 seconds	140 mph

Newer BMW like 2021/2022 got better? Or same stupid stuff with plastic?

This post has been edited by Duckies: May 20 2024, 02:57 PM

planned obsolescence

Is all BMW like that or certain years?

e90 already starting
f30 no more inline 6 and more plastics

i'd say e90 LCI is the best bmw 3 series , still modern enough to have all the creature comforts, performance and safety aspects we in 2024 have come accustomed to yet they didn't put so much into cost cutting and planned obsolesces. but it already has a trick load of electrics that can go wrong.

Aww...I was planning to get the 2022-2023 X3 in the next few years maybe...

i can say it looks decently nice
it is a speed demon
interior design and quality is quite decent, about a notch higher than premium chinese cars you see today
why i am comparing to chinese cars? well, modern chinese cars are based off conti's not japanese cars.
higher end models and brands, lets say BYD Seal it really has a luxury feel to it but it is different from sensible ones from japanese automakers
partly because alot of designers of european brands are working for top chinese and korean car makers.

except the badge prestige the mass market models aren't really that great.

if you have the time, go to one utama, slime babi auto has a showcase there.

sit in the regular models like 320i, X1, X3, etc.
then go sit inside the Hyundai Ioniq 5 then go sit inside the BYD Seal
you'd feel it getting better and better.

BYD Atto3 and Dolphin are very ordinary, can't really say much.

But step into higher end BMW model like the iX and you can see/feel a world of difference. e.g. BYD has a full glass roof, BMW iX has a full electrochromic glass roof.

temper your expectations, push the price down.
then u won't feel short-changed.

Not really into EVs so those you mentioned not suitable for me haha. Probably need to prepare 10k yearly for repair and maintenance kot..

Still ok..roughly same as my bike tayar in set..

Already getting 318i instead of 118i due to space issue..

my friend who drove f10 lci claims that 10k is more than enuf.. most important is preventative maintenance.. change the part once it is age even it is not broke.. Modern German part very particular on the time...

This post has been edited by shyan90's: May 20 2024, 03:58 PM

don't pay for used car 'warranty' if u have the cash park your 10k into tng e-wallet to earn high interest
the used car warranty is just more bs tat locks u to their ecosystem of suppliers

get the 318i lci
it uses b38 but since it is lci
they have put in effort to implement all bugs up to that point for the car
jadi ts first post is 'dun ask me topup sikit for 320' end up also 3series