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 BMW F20 B38 118i, common problem

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post Feb 9 2024, 04:15 PM

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Also seeing the number of mentions about B38 being problematic (also my good friend's car having the same issue), would you not consider a car with the B48 engine instead?
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post Feb 10 2024, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Feb 9 2024, 04:15 PM)
Also seeing the number of mentions about B38 being problematic (also my good friend's car having the same issue), would you not consider a car with the B48 engine instead?
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Nope.. cause like f20 lci design..turbo issue is known issue d..
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post Feb 11 2024, 10:39 AM

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From the info u gathered so far, how much u plan to set aside for yearly maintenance?
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post Feb 11 2024, 10:43 AM

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Head gasket leaks are pretty common especially once they age. After 5 years replace all the hoses and plastic bits in the engine even your mech tells you it’s alll good. Fuckers break when u least expect

Driving a 12 year old Beemer so I know the pain sometimes.
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post Feb 11 2024, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Feb 11 2024, 10:39 AM)
From the info u gathered so far, how much u plan to set aside for yearly maintenance?
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Minimum 20k per year is sufficient so as long u stick to all schedule. If kena jackpot engine or gearbox don’t fix it. Just swap half cut


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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Feb 11 2024, 10:39 AM)
From the info u gathered so far, how much u plan to set aside for yearly maintenance?
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Around 5k+ and need service earlier than the schedule maintenance..
As i mentioned I travel very little.. 5 years in my current myvi only 30k😅
If do not have turbo issue.... else another 8k for turbo++

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post Feb 11 2024, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 10 2024, 08:28 PM)
Nope.. cause like f20 lci design..turbo issue is known issue d..
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If I have a choice will select to face turbo failure than engine failure for Beemer

Seriously engine issue is suck ass and costly. Turbo is a good issue depend how u look at it. If spoil or worn off, can upgrade tukar ballbearing type and korek intake and exhaust hole so you get better power and chance to do a higher tune

I did exactly that on my 320d turbo and got tong turbo to work on it, map was super linear post remap all the way to 5k rpm

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post Feb 11 2024, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 11 2024, 10:54 PM)
Around 5k+ and need service earlier than the schedule maintenance..
As i mentioned I travel very little.. 5 years in my current myvi only 30k😅
If do not have turbo issue.... else another 8k for turbo++
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Ok u try and then update us, I don’t think rm5k is enough. Rm5k is what i’d set aside for japanese C/D segment car that age
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post Feb 11 2024, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Feb 11 2024, 11:31 PM)
Ok u try and then update us, I don’t think rm5k is enough. Rm5k is what i’d set aside for japanese C/D segment car that age
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Agree.

Don forget staggered wheel cost money

When u get the car pls change all the oil and ask mech check the abs sensor one by one. Change all hoses to ( samco)


Prepare 10k minimum by cash or credit cos there’s gonna be shit to fix
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Feb 11 2024, 11:31 PM)
Ok u try and then update us, I don’t think rm5k is enough. Rm5k is what i’d set aside for japanese C/D segment car that age
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Ok. Just estimate only.. but will get major service before i get the car..

QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Feb 11 2024, 11:33 PM)
Agree.

Don forget staggered wheel cost money

When u get the car pls change all the oil and ask mech check the abs sensor one by one. Change all hoses to ( samco)
Prepare 10k minimum by cash or credit cos there’s gonna be shit to fix
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Ya sure. Lets hope everything is good. I will directly buy from sime darby..my friend told me they got offer the GMR warranty for 1st year if i service in sime darby.. not sure how it works but lets see how.. havent really see the car yet but seems promising by the millage and condition.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 9 2024, 09:25 AM)
B38 most serious issue my mechanic encounter, turbo leak water coolant in it. Yes, they are water leak from the inner turbo and luckily during pressure leak test the exhaust downpipe were taken out and noticed the water dripping from it.

You got 3 options, either buy new turbo, service/fix turbo with China parts or buy half-cut.

The previous owner in the end choose half-cut
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nowadays plenty of turbo servicing workshop and best they even can offer some goodies for upgrading the turbo. my point, servicing the turbo > take recond turbo unit as many workshop will suggest. This include Kompressor (supercharge) unit for old Mercedes.
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ts, this car is one of the best looking car. please proceed smile.gif
take m-sport with those thin steering.

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 13 2024, 09:10 AM)
ts, this car is one of the best looking car. please proceed smile.gif
take m-sport with those thin steering.
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Yea! Even better than the latest G20 or G30!
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post Feb 14 2024, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 11 2024, 11:55 PM)
Ok. Just estimate only.. but will get major service before i get the car..
Ya sure. Lets hope everything is good. I will directly buy from sime darby..my friend told me they got offer the GMR warranty for 1st year if i service in sime darby.. not sure how it works but lets see how.. havent really see the car yet but seems promising by the millage and condition.
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Sime Darby pre owned.. very high markup.
If you can find direct owner with full service records and verify mileage with Auto Bavaria.. would save you significant amount.

I’ve driven the F30 316i pre-LCI, F20 118i LCI, and F30 330e LCI. The former ones really lack the power I want but the ZF 8 gearbox masks it very well.

Sadly, F30 is out for you style wise. I would suggest F30 LCI 320i to you. B48 is a really good engine. B58 is betterer.

That being said, it is a good car. Just be sure to get M Sport.
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post Feb 14 2024, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 13 2024, 10:07 AM)
nowadays plenty of turbo servicing workshop and best they even can offer some goodies for upgrading the turbo. my point, servicing the turbo > take recond turbo unit as many workshop will suggest. This include Kompressor (supercharge) unit for old Mercedes.
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A lot of people think upgrading turbo easy job.
Aftermath is the real issue, you need to spend more money upgrading, remap and more chance of oil leak around the seals due to higher air intake/pressure. Most of the time original fix/replacement is still the best if owner don't want to have more headache.

Seen a lot of fail project upgrade from those f30 3 series, upgrade turbo, then remap do this do that in the end most owner revert original then sell off. bangwall.gif



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QUOTE(Jason @ Feb 14 2024, 12:41 AM)
Sime Darby pre owned.. very high markup.
If you can find direct owner with full service records and verify mileage with Auto Bavaria.. would save you significant amount.

I’ve driven the F30 316i pre-LCI, F20 118i LCI, and F30 330e LCI. The former ones really lack the power I want but the ZF 8 gearbox masks it very well.

Sadly, F30 is out for you style wise. I would suggest F30 LCI 320i to you. B48 is a really good engine. B58 is betterer.

That being said, it is a good car. Just be sure to get M Sport.
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I concur. best is direct owner who had unit with warranty intact (5 year or below). Those Sime Darby price is just too much.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Feb 14 2024, 12:41 AM)
Sime Darby pre owned.. very high markup.
If you can find direct owner with full service records and verify mileage with Auto Bavaria.. would save you significant amount.

I’ve driven the F30 316i pre-LCI, F20 118i LCI, and F30 330e LCI. The former ones really lack the power I want but the ZF 8 gearbox masks it very well.

Sadly, F30 is out for you style wise. I would suggest F30 LCI 320i to you. B48 is a really good engine. B58 is betterer.

That being said, it is a good car. Just be sure to get M Sport.
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Yes..but my friend said it can be nego if you go there..But let me check it 1st...I saw the market now around 62-67k...Sime Darby 1 around 70k..
I dont think will get the M Sport..although it look nice..but i dont want raise my commitment too much in instalment. But might throw in M Sport wheels or F30 330E wheel cause it really sick ! XD

QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 14 2024, 08:08 AM)
A lot of people think upgrading turbo easy job.
Aftermath is the real issue, you need to spend more money upgrading, remap and more chance of oil leak around the seals due to higher air intake/pressure. Most of the time original fix/replacement is still the best if owner don't want to have more headache.

Seen a lot of fail project upgrade from those f30 3 series, upgrade turbo, then remap do this do that in the end most owner revert original then sell off.  bangwall.gif
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Yes..unless u got $ to buy 1 set ready turbo kit...else u need alot patient in customized.. same is motorcycle world.. Last time i wanted to fix a extension on my current footrest it takes alot of measurement, trial and error before get it done and fit my riding style... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2024, 08:21 AM)
I concur. best is direct owner who had unit with warranty intact (5 year or below). Those Sime Darby price is just too much.
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Yes..but with GMR warranty...(quite me 1.7k for 1 year/25k km..) was it ok?


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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 12:12 PM)

I dont think will get the M Sport..although it look nice..but i dont want raise my commitment too much in instalment. But might throw in M Sport wheels or F30 330E wheel cause it really sick ! XD

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Trust me lah
There’s 2 types of BMW owners
The ones who wish they had M Sport
And the ones with M Sport (or M cars)

Which one you want to be?
Especially resale value down the line. You are buying the last front engine rear wheel driven hatchback with an internal combustion engine, with an actual handbrake and the best 8 speed gearbox in the world.

Don’t be SH. 😂
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 14 2024, 08:08 AM)
A lot of people think upgrading turbo easy job.
Aftermath is the real issue, you need to spend more money upgrading, remap and more chance of oil leak around the seals due to higher air intake/pressure. Most of the time original fix/replacement is still the best if owner don't want to have more headache.

Seen a lot of fail project upgrade from those f30 3 series, upgrade turbo, then remap do this do that in the end most owner revert original then sell off.  bangwall.gif
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i mean if the turbo kong (rarely or after hit really2 high mileage) nowadays we can send the malfunction turbo for servicing and built it as standard back. not sure if it related, my company's car old Mitsubishi Triton Diesel with turbocharge engine just spend 5 days for Turbo kong repair (services) in Miri and the invoices shown at rm1.7k. If buy recond, for sure more expansive.
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 12:12 PM)
Yes..but my friend said it can be nego if you go there..But let me check it 1st...I saw the market now around 62-67k...Sime Darby 1 around 70k..
I dont think will get the M Sport..although it look nice..but i dont want raise my commitment too much in instalment. But might throw in M Sport wheels or F30 330E wheel cause it really sick ! XD
Yes..unless u got $ to buy 1 set ready turbo kit...else u need alot patient  in customized.. same is motorcycle world.. Last time i wanted to fix a extension on my current footrest it takes alot of measurement, trial and error before get it done and fit my riding style... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
Yes..but with GMR warranty...(quite me 1.7k for 1 year/25k km..) was it ok?
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try joining several bmw fb group. many owner selling theirs with good condition and can hear price rclxms.gif

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