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 BMW F20 B38 118i, common problem

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post Feb 14 2024, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Feb 14 2024, 02:01 PM)
Trust me lah
There’s 2 types of BMW owners
The ones who wish they had M Sport
And the ones with M Sport (or M cars)

Which one you want to be?
Especially resale value down the line. You are buying the last front engine rear wheel driven hatchback with an internal combustion engine, with an actual handbrake and the best 8 speed gearbox in the world.

Don’t be SH. 😂
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Lets see how..Yes..The last RWD hatchback with the best 8 speed gearbox in the world..
Doubt that any hatchback RWD proper gearbox car after this...

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2024, 02:05 PM)
try joining several bmw fb group. many owner selling theirs with good condition and can hear price  rclxms.gif
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Already. Surprisingly very little ppl sell their F20 LCI...
Plus directly buy from owner, i have no idea where to apply the loan, document and etc... (For motorcycle I know what to do but to car still very new..)

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post Feb 14 2024, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2024, 03:04 PM)
i mean if the turbo kong (rarely or after hit really2 high mileage) nowadays we can send the malfunction turbo for servicing and built it as standard back. not sure if it related, my company's car old Mitsubishi Triton Diesel with turbocharge engine just spend 5 days for Turbo kong repair (services) in Miri and the invoices shown at rm1.7k. If buy recond, for sure more expansive.
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Recond also just fix the old spoilt turbo and refurbish. I already mentioned previous post that my mechanic give the owner 3 options. One of the options is to fix the turbo back. FYI, most of the turbo spare parts are from China. If you know your turbo model just type the turbo details in shopee/lazada, plenty of turbo parts also selling in it nowadays. Just some owner phobia about made in China so they go for half-cut.
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post Feb 14 2024, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 14 2024, 02:56 PM)
Recond also just fix the old spoilt turbo and refurbish. I already mentioned previous post that my mechanic give the owner 3 options. One of the options is to fix the turbo back. FYI, most of the turbo spare parts are from China. If you know your turbo model just type the turbo details in shopee/lazada, plenty of turbo parts also selling in it nowadays. Just some owner phobia about made in China so they go for half-cut.
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I think compare with half cut will repair back the turbo... half cut just 50/50..if repair well can last longer than half cut part...
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post Feb 14 2024, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 04:05 PM)
I think compare with half cut will repair back the turbo... half cut just 50/50..if repair well can last longer than half cut part...
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Depends, repair also 50/50. If the China parts quality is bad also wont last long also. Some half-cut the condition is almost like new due to low mileage accident or what reasons, my mechanic seen quite a lot of half-cuts especially from Japan really very low mileage.
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post Feb 14 2024, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 14 2024, 03:12 PM)
Depends, repair also 50/50. If the China parts quality is bad also wont last long also. Some half-cut the condition is almost like new due to low mileage accident or what reasons, my mechanic seen quite a lot of half-cuts especially from Japan really very low mileage.
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Any idea total cost for half cut turbo replacement for b38?
Hope it will not happen for me..haha
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post Feb 14 2024, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 04:23 PM)
Any idea total cost for half cut turbo replacement for b38?
Hope it will not happen for me..haha
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Dont know the actual amount, but need few k for sure (still cheaper than new turbo from SC at least 50% from what i heard).
You can just go half-cut shop and ask for it, depending on shop some may varies depending on quality & where they get the parts.
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post Feb 14 2024, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2024, 02:04 PM)
i mean if the turbo kong (rarely or after hit really2 high mileage) nowadays we can send the malfunction turbo for servicing and built it as standard back. not sure if it related, my company's car old Mitsubishi Triton Diesel with turbocharge engine just spend 5 days for Turbo kong repair (services) in Miri and the invoices shown at rm1.7k. If buy recond, for sure more expansive.
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not rarely or high mileage. mine kena around 70k odo. many ppl kena random odo
metal housing pecah (might cause by water rust)
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 03:23 PM)
Any idea total cost for half cut turbo replacement for b38?
Hope it will not happen for me..haha
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january 2023
Turbo used&gasket rm6670
Engine oil & filter rm490
Aircond filter rm130
Air cond service rm280
Total RM7,570

later continue leak other places.

QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 14 2024, 03:27 PM)
Dont know the actual amount, but need few k for sure (still cheaper than new turbo from SC at least 50% from what i heard).
You can just go half-cut shop and ask for it, depending on shop some may varies depending on quality & where they get the parts.
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finish warranty sc charge double of above mentioned cost
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post Feb 14 2024, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 14 2024, 04:52 PM)
january 2023
Turbo used&gasket rm6670
Engine oil & filter rm490
Aircond filter rm130
Air cond service rm280
Total RM7,570

later continue leak other places.
finish warranty sc charge double of above mentioned cost
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Hmm..if turbo spoiled cant do anything...other wise other service price sounds ok to me.
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post Feb 14 2024, 08:39 PM

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bill after warranty, outside workshops.

if not mistaken. got claim DRIVETRAIN MALFUNCTION in sc before.
counter told me it was turbo. i dont belive that.
anyway foc period just let them repair.

so ckd spare part is very laoya
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post Feb 14 2024, 08:43 PM

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now. still got issue with differential.
not serious. so leave it bah.
hope can delay until resell to next owner surprise gift

btw zf8 where got good. everybody praise while i hate it so muchs
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post Feb 14 2024, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 14 2024, 08:43 PM)
now. still got issue with differential.
not serious. so leave it bah.
hope can delay until resell to next owner surprise gift

btw zf8 where got good. everybody praise while i hate it so muchs
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which tranny is best in your opinion?
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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 14 2024, 08:43 PM)
now. still got issue with differential.
not serious. so leave it bah.
hope can delay until resell to next owner surprise gift

btw zf8 where got good. everybody praise while i hate it so muchs
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What happen on differential?
What makes you hate ZF8 so much? Delay on changing gear or too smart always change gear?
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post Feb 15 2024, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 14 2024, 09:08 PM)
which tranny is best in your opinion?
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all kind of gearbox technology are good. be it auto manual
ancient modern. is all about ratio bro
the most basic thing pun cannot do it right. so

how about urs. best tranny ?
QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 09:48 PM)
What happen on differential?
What makes you hate ZF8 so much? Delay on changing gear or too smart always change gear?
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hi speed uturn/ play drift sliding. produces loud grinding noise.
no error in idrive. suspect inside fluid oil kurang quality & kurang quantity

ratio not suitable for b38 (turbo)
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post Feb 15 2024, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Feb 14 2024, 06:42 PM)
Hmm..if turbo spoiled cant do anything...other wise other service price sounds ok to me.
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one of a reason it cost high is the whole piece combine with exhaust manifold
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post Feb 15 2024, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 15 2024, 06:16 PM)
one of a reason it cost high is the whole piece combine with exhaust manifold
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Ya..such dumbarse design.. doh.gif

QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 15 2024, 06:08 PM)
hi speed uturn/ play drift sliding. produces loud grinding noise.
no error in idrive. suspect inside fluid oil kurang quality & kurang quantity

ratio not suitable for b38 (turbo)
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Oo...i just treat it as normal car...so should be fine...maybe burn out little bit yearly? tongue.gif tongue.gif Else abit waste on RWD car.

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post Feb 16 2024, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 15 2024, 06:08 PM)
all kind of gearbox technology are good. be it auto manual
ancient modern. is all about ratio bro
the most basic thing pun cannot do it right. so

how about urs. best tranny ?

hi speed uturn/ play drift sliding. produces loud grinding noise.
no error in idrive. suspect inside fluid oil kurang quality & kurang quantity

ratio not suitable for b38 (turbo)
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Kinda asking u since u mentioned ZF 8 gear not best, u asking me back? If u ask me, any gearbox is good except CVT. I 100% wont buy car with CVT gb

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post May 18 2024, 12:24 AM

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End up opt for B38 318i.
full service record by AB..bought with sime darby..
Luck enuf my unit back in Sep 2022 has done turbo claim, all interior panel claim, engine mounting claim, heat management claim and etc...
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ May 18 2024, 12:24 AM)
End up opt for B38 318i.
full service record by AB..bought with sime darby..
Luck enuf my unit back in Sep 2022 has done turbo claim, all interior panel claim, engine mounting claim, heat management claim and etc...
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welcum aboards we got fellow 318i around lyn here
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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 14 2024, 08:43 PM)
btw zf8 where got good. everybody praise while i hate it so muchs
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RR also using ZF8... maybe yours unlucky got problem gua...


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