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 Malaysian millennials give up on home ownership

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post Jan 19 2024, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 19 2024, 10:09 PM)
If kampung style, I think still wokey.

City style susah, bro. Trust me.

My 2nd studio here in London, is at a 4th level and 4 1/2 attic. I renovate it and rebuilt it to be comfortable, only to misjudge the consideration on heating, leak of cold air, windy situation that causes gempa bumi piap piap style, noisy crancky lifts disturbance, and so on. Out of my 31 studio in hand, this 2nd unit is the cheapest ever renovation I did, by getting kawan and sendiri do, just to fakap and it is now profitable, but a burning money prop to let for bnb clients. (10 client stay here, 50% complain)
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Boss…please la…property in UK is diff from malaysia…here all need cover up one….windows need to do grill like a jail….wall cannot use chipboard de…

Where got same….
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post Jan 19 2024, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 19 2024, 10:21 PM)
Facts. But you'll see many even here in /k cannot accept it. Help has always been there- RUMAWIP la, PRIMA la, Rumah Selangor Ku la, MyHome la etc. But nooooo this cannot that cannot, want nice want posh want cheap n quality, like pay RM10 but expect full course dinner at Le Gavroche  laugh.gif
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Boss, no jokes high rise building management is a big big big issue in near future…

Malaysia baru merdeka 50 years…still not yet see much leasehold title expiry, building rebuild, and management know how to maintenance…

Worst is gov set the guideline but no education…sure all messy coming up
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post Jan 19 2024, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(SHERLOCK THE SOLVER @ Jan 19 2024, 10:07 PM)
bagus.. sila continue renting from us (landlords) and dont buy.
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Thanks for paying bank interest on time. Take more loans too.

Signed, bank shareholder. 🫡
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post Jan 19 2024, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 11:43 PM)
Do it illegally lo…dangerous also
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as usual
tok kok pandai lah lu


SUSxiaojohn
post Jan 19 2024, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Jan 19 2024, 10:54 PM)
As long as u don't plan to put yourself into a 30 years mortgage, actually ur pressure less, the developers are also changing their strategy and planning to rent their future properties instead of selling
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Exactly.
They earn cukup already last time they blow/leverage so much…

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post Jan 19 2024, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 19 2024, 11:53 PM)
as usual
tok kok pandai lah lu
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Apa tokok?
SUSxiaojohn
post Jan 19 2024, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 19 2024, 11:53 PM)
Thanks for paying bank interest on time. Take more loans too.

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Which bank?
SUSxiaojohn
post Jan 19 2024, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jan 19 2024, 10:10 PM)
Their colander how to simpan water content. Simpan sampah sarap got la. Water all bocor hilang before notice.
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You try live in KL without a car see see
SUSxiaojohn
post Jan 19 2024, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 19 2024, 11:34 PM)
This guy has been around for quite some time. you should see his other video

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Uncle check it later no airpod now

B0ss_ku
post Jan 20 2024, 12:08 AM

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You first 10 properties is the hardest

After that it's smooth sailing
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post Jan 20 2024, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 11:46 PM)
You see KL already like this…all rich move to Damansara PJ SS2 Subang

Where got local still stay in Pudu/China town area…not much…
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Those location you mentioned are slowly declining as well
Next one should be puchong kinrara equine park
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post Jan 20 2024, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 11:52 PM)
Boss, no jokes high rise building management is a big big big issue in near future…

Malaysia baru merdeka 50 years…still not yet see much leasehold title expiry, building rebuild, and management know how to maintenance…

Worst is gov set the guideline but no education…sure all messy coming up
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We're talking about home ownership or leasehold expiry here? If everything also scared leasehold expiry or building mgmt then no need buy homes lor.

If you can't afford that landed property then start off with something cheaper and slowly build from there la.

When I first started out, I bought a crappy 850sf apartment for RM115k, that was me n wifey first home. We saved as much as possible minimizing on spending useless stuff like starbucks, posh dinners, expensive holidays etc to maximize the repayment, and also utilized epf acct-B further reduce the loan. 10 years later the apartment was fully paid off (loan tenure was 25 years) and we were able to sell it off and used the proceeds to buy our dream landed property. Bear in mind I wasn't even drawing RM5k salary at that time.

Point here is, your first house may not necessary be your permanent home, but at least get something that belongs to YOU no matter how crappy it is. That's because the monthly installments goes to YOUR own property rather than renting and paying for SOMEONE ELSE'S home installment. Then you can consider upgrading when your financials are better. Even if worst case scenario you're stuck and unable to progress much in your career and salary, at the very least you still have your OWN roof over your head.

It very much depends on your mindset and how you plan for your finances, not just whining about location la, quality la, maintenance issues la or leasing expiry la or limiting ownership (I thought we not communists?)
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post Jan 20 2024, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 03:50 PM)
Boss…please la…property in UK is diff from malaysia…here all need cover up one….windows need to do grill like a jail….wall cannot use chipboard de…

Where got same….
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Of coz la, I renovate London Home leh, I sure know my own stuff and mafan stuff. But if you ask me Malaysia, I manatau???? All I know is we all live in Sarang Jail Bifotis! (not my case la, my parents stay desapak, takut aper lel...)

QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 03:56 PM)
You try live in KL without a car see see
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Aiyo, naturally la. But at my stage nowadays, I'll just grab or uber all the way until end of days.
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post Jan 20 2024, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 11:52 PM)
Boss, no jokes high rise building management is a big big big issue in near future…

Malaysia baru merdeka 50 years…still not yet see much leasehold title expiry, building rebuild, and management know how to maintenance…

Worst is gov set the guideline but no education…sure all messy coming up
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Redevelopment is more common than most realized e.g klcc, TRX, PNB 118, bbcc, kl sentral, pavillion Damansara, etc. As for residential, given locals mentality and culture, >50 years old condo is likely in a state of disrepair, will only worth the value of the land it sit on and lease hold is unlikely will be renewed by all owners.

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jan 20 2024, 12:38 AM)
Point here is, your first house may not necessary be your permanent home, but at least get something that belongs to YOU no matter how crappy it is. That's because the monthly installments goes to YOUR own property rather than renting and paying for SOMEONE ELSE'S home installment. Then you can consider upgrading when your financials are better. Even if worst case scenario you're stuck and unable to progress much in your career and salary, at the very least you still have your OWN roof over your head.

It very much depends on your mindset and how you plan for your finances, not just whining about location la, quality la, maintenance issues la or leasing expiry la or limiting ownership (I thought we not communists?)
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Historically and prudently, one is supposed to climb poorperly ladder with rising income while keeping dsr below 20%. However, most in this country are encouraged by developers, uuu/bbb and SA agent to jump into bigger and more expensive unit. Hence, many homeowners are financially stretched.

Poorperly price is a product of supply and demand. Until overhang is reduced substantially, price will remain suppressed.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 20 2024, 06:52 AM
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post Jan 20 2024, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 20 2024, 06:41 AM)
Redevelopment is more common than most realized e.g klcc, TRX, PNB 118, bbcc, kl sentral, pavillion Damansara, etc. As for residential, given locals mentality and culture, >50 years old condo is likely in a state of disrepair, will only worth the value of the land it sit on and lease hold is unlikely will be renewed by all owners.
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Uncle agree
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post Jan 20 2024, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(Lada Putih @ Jan 19 2024, 11:25 PM)
i always wonder
this is how capital market works
when a demand for a certain location gain too high for the supply to catch up
it means the certain location has reach its intended targeted thresore for development.
it will be wise to send the population to another adjacent location to develop there instead, and when the cycle repeats again, its time for greater KL to become a greater selangor.

and then slowly once the location center reach a certain economical and development thresore, it will start to slowly decline or become something else completely.
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Demographic change with time and sentiment. Popular and on demand residential area shifted from tmn seputeh, bangsar, Damansara utama, bu, mk to dpc in the last few decades. New money tend to chase new area.

QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 11:46 PM)
You see KL already like this…all rich move to Damansara PJ SS2 Subang

Where got local still stay in Pudu/China town area…not much…
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Worldwide, locals tend to move out to suburbs, while new migrants occupy city center. If fewer migrants arrive, city center tend to degenerate.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 20 2024, 07:22 AM
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post Jan 20 2024, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(emino @ Jan 19 2024, 10:14 AM)
Gaji 4k car 800. Genius.

Meanwhile aku my motor 4k sekali bayar and my house 800+ je monthly.
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My pay is 3k plus, I also pay 800 plus for the bezza. Is not like there are better choice.
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post Jan 20 2024, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 19 2024, 11:56 PM)
You try live in KL without a car see see
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I lol at this statement. I move to KL at 19. I never own a car until marriage at 34. Heck lesen kereta pun xde. Even today I don’t have a car, guna kereta bini at times. But for my day to day I guna either motor or public transport.

I only get lesen because I don’t feel safe with my wife driving as she has intense fear of insect.

In fact I would argue duduk KL la the best way to survive without a car as the public transport is significantly better than the other states in the country.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Jan 20 2024, 07:51 AM)
My pay is 3k plus, I also pay 800 plus for the bezza.  Is not like there are better choice.
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lol I disagree but to each their own sebab aku malas nak gado pasal ukur baju di badan sendiri.

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