let said about the story,
2day i went to lowyat 2 buy computer stuff, then ard 3o'clock going back
at jalan loke yew there, under the monorail station, i kiss a lmst rear.

my lane only got 3 car, me lmst and kelisa, kelisa most frt, saga middle, i m last 1.
i driving around 40km/h, then suddenly i see saga brake, so that i also slow down my speed, but the saga seem like not slow down only, it just like emergency brake
and i kiss his butt, then he come out and  trying to scold me, but the kelisa run away with very fast speed already. number plate 2988, blue in color, original look.

then i go down and ready to fxxx him already, how come the lane no car but emergency brake, then he ask me go license or not la, and what else what else.

then the callman come over here in 1 min. so i think that, this is a trap

btw, the person got walkie talkie, but didnt drive. its malay, age around 30+

i suppose he mean this

any place still seliing vortex generator for LMST?

wats a vortex generator?
wats it do?
whats it look like?
sory
i totally zero on this topic
hehe

mine change ar 2nd service jo.. the color black like kopi O  baru change can feel a bit different on gear changing..

ya i heard becos the glue too salty unless got bubble showing..stupid man.. never improve

ur gearbox oil was black?
howcome?
usually gear oil doesnt change color much
stays more or less golden like ori
its the engine oil that becomes black wor
how did carbon get into your gear oil?
better check wor...
if gear oil become black...sure sumthing wrong wan

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Added on October 29, 2007, 12:23 am
not salty bro
its the solvent in the glue...its corrosive
aparently they r still using the batch that they bought back when the saga was new
the bloke incharge made a nice commission buying it...so he bought like a massive huge shipment...so until now they still using that crap on our cars 

mine change ar 2nd service jo.. the color black like kopi O  baru change can feel a bit different on gear changing..

r u sure mou??
my car manual 20k only change gear oil only sum thing like brownish d. . .
i think u mistake for engine oil gua~
hehehe...
btw u're driving manual rite? ?

U saw an evolution sticking a carbon fiber thing at the roof near the rear mirror? The vortex generator is to divert the flow of air to increase aerodynamic used on rally car..
http://www.lancershop.com/customer/product...55&cat=0&page=1

fuyoh~ 2day i have an accident at jln loke yew there
pity saga let me kiss, number plate KCB, izzit very new?

r u sure they neva change mou??
if they really din't change then u can sue them d. . .
orh,my wrong...
proton's engine oil for auto is red  sum thing like dextronIII colour...
so wen changing gear oil,it's ard da colour s u mention d. . .  sorry my mistake

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Added on October 29, 2007, 12:41 am
yes,it's really new n i believe tis accident more likely is a set up by them. . . .
do u remembered tat car got any minor accident on his rear b4 u bang him??

ya u memang shifoo memang experience in this field i today only no engine oil is different between auto and manual.   U said i made mistake cos they change 1 is engine oil not gear oil. They change the right side first.. then change the oil filter there. then they change the left side opening 2 nuts 1 for flow 1 they pump ENGINE OIL inside as u said..shifoo i wish to learn more from u can teach me??

thanks cheeann for telling us that engine oil is different between auto and manual...
so which type of engine oil is recommended for auto car? Pls guide us i ll put it on the first post for references by all members

PLS GUIDE US CHEEANN U LIKE GOD TO US!!!    

i called uncle wiki just now he said...

"Vortex generators are also being used in automotive vehicles. In one form they are used as in aircraft to influence the boundary layer of air flow primarily for drag reduction. In another form they are installed in the engine's air intake hose. Manufacturers claim that the vortex generator creates a swirling motion within the air intake pipe, and within the combustion chamber causing improved burning of the fuel, increasing horsepower and fuel efficiency."

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Added on October 29, 2007, 12:44 am
ya u memang shifoo memang experience in this field i today only no engine oil is different between auto and manual.   U said i made mistake cos they change 1 is engine oil not gear oil. They change the right side first.. then change the oil filter there. then they change the left side opening 2 nuts 1 for flow 1 they pump ENGINE OIL inside as u said..shifoo i wish to learn more from u can teach me??

hmm...the key word here is "claim"
"Manufacturers claim that the vortex generator creates a swirling motion within the air intake pipe...etc etc etc
this means that it is not a fact
as far as boundary layer is concerned,...for one,...the boundary layer wont be like an inch or two thick (which is generally how high these things usually are)
and another thing is,...our cars in general do not travel fast enough for boundary layer drag to have any significant effect... (unless ofcourse u r driving a veyron )