checking in!
v7!!!


btw, i got new unused volt gauge here
i take some shots
c if any1 want
its all metal construction

wah....how many gfs u got lar? hahaha

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Added on October 27, 2007, 12:47 pmoh shoot
wat i have is not a volt meter
its a water temp meter!
hahaha
sorry
my bad


This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 27 2007, 12:47 PM

what car you driving?
if you are talking about the stock gear lock thats infront of the handbrake n just behind the gear shift,...then thats easy

pull up the handbrake cover
its just clipped in
then unscrew the whole plastic frame
there are two screws right infront,...1 near the clutch and one on the other side
there are two screws screwing into the floor board (these are just about under the power window buttons)
and then there is one just under the ash tray which also screws downwards.....but this screws into a bracket
the 2 screws that screw into the floor board will be abit stiff to take out the 1st time coz there is undercoat at the bottom of the screws

once the whole plastic frame is out,...you will be able to see the gear shift lock
if im not mistaken,...its just bolted into the frame
i cant remember exactly how its anchored in...
i do remember it is ver simple
but if you've got this far,...you should be able to figure out how to remove it at a glance

just unscrew/unbolt it,...and then put everything back together
should take about 40minutes all in


btw,...y do you want to take it out?

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Added on October 27, 2007, 5:28 pmif you get a saga,...check everything u can think off
paint...(mine had chips at the bonnet corner)....the reverse sensors (mine were dead from the day i picked up my car...had to drive straight to the service center to get warranty)...horns....all the lights....the intake duct...moulding flaws are common iinm,...interior finish...keep an eye out for water leaks around the glass...starter probs...alignment....aircond...(watever setting you put it always blows everywhere...)...

the thing about the saga is that its a good car...but the qc is imho non-existent
but once you've worked out all the probs n got everything warrantied...its really quite a great car
cheap to buy,...cheap to maintain,...stable...reasonably efficient...and can get the spare parts practically anywhere

despite all the possible flaws,...i'd still say get an iswara...its currently the best 1st car for any1 who doesnt have rich parents to buy them a beamer before they even get a job

p.s. the 'little wing' is purely aesthetic...it doesnt contribute to aerodynamics...imho it would actually increase drag and tail end turbulence and vortices...its just proton's lame attempt at making a 20year old car look like sumthing its not

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 27 2007, 05:28 PM

y so quiet today

hey guys
are your lmst air filter boxes like mine?
mine is lose until if dun have the CAI duct it can slowly work itself lose!
lastime wen i 1st picked up the car n noticed it n showed the salesman he said its no prob...n i oso bodoh went n said ok...
c c that day saw it halfway out d
if it fell out n hit my radiator or ac fan die man!
if urs is like mine better go warranty quickly

i'll take some shots of my dad's car tmw n show u
supose to be very well fitting n all smooth
so means urs oso like mine izit?...


trust me
it does effect the aerodynamics
as it is,...the iswara's aerodynamics isnt the best...
adding something like that at the back (what kind of airfoil has a FLAT leading edge to begin with?!)...just before the end will increase the turbulence n vortices...
try simulating it in a computational fluid dynamics software n u'll c wut i mean

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 27 2007, 07:43 PM

err...that doesnt look like an iswara to me...more like a wira or sumthing
but anywayz...
that type is better anchored into the car
u still have to take out the center console where the handbrake is
it is bolted into the ground
either it shares the bolt with the seat rail or it has its own
i cant remember exactly
but its not that hard to take off either
just needs a little time
y do u 1 2 take it off nywayz?

ops...missed that one
hmm...did u take out the screws inside the console? (after popping open the handbrake cover) and also the one below the ashtray? (assuming urs is the same as the wira n iswara)

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Added on October 27, 2007, 9:09 pmman...i missed alot of info from your post...
hahaha
wonder where my mind was at that time

but the info on how to take out is still accurate...just rechecked
hehehe

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 27 2007, 09:09 PM

ala...come lar...then the gang can stick a candle in a roti canai n sing u bday song

mine half falling out d that time. mine didnt raise up. i think u didnt move the ac pipe so its now pressing on the CAI duct izit?
the filter pan will be lose wen you open the top cover
the only thing holding it in place will be the bolt on the cylinder head cover
the thing that holds the pan down for an air tight seal is when the cover is put on and the wing-nut is tightened

what wing are you talking about taking off and putting in vortex?


the cigarette lighter just leave in the extra socket when not using lar...then wen using just unplug it like you would the stock lighter socket (assuming it was situated in a logical place)

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Added on October 27, 2007, 11:14 pmwau
this is weird
no idea y
think better u take back to sc
but then once the prob is solved can ask them what was the prob n pls post here?
would reli like to know wat caused this prob
thanks

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Added on October 27, 2007, 11:17 pmfiber is dangerous?
wat fiber?

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 27 2007, 11:17 PM

u talking about making it urself using fiberglass izit?

its not the molecules that too small then
its the fumes of the resin thats used to bond the fibers
unless done in a properly ventilated area, these fumes can be poisonous

another thing about fiberglass r d fibers themselves
they are very very fine
and if they are not handled properly, tiny fiber particles can become airborne
these then get inhaled into the lungs if proper breathing apparatus/face masks are not used
this can lead to respitory complications

working with fiberglass is only safe if proper safety precautions are taken

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Added on October 28, 2007, 3:22 amyeap
stil 26999
its all over the ads n all
y 1 2 go until wiki to check
hahaha

i was considering taking off the spoiler at the back
coz its so close to the body
real hard to clean under it...let alone polish it
but after checking properly found that its bolted on with 4 bolts
so if take off oso will have 4 holes in the booth hood
so decided to leave it on

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 28 2007, 03:22 AM

the caliper is made from cast iron...and still can deform?
u mean the thing got cracked izit?

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Added on October 28, 2007, 11:28 amwats NPS stand for? wats the diff from the lmst?

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Added on October 28, 2007, 11:28 amhmm....got pics?
if dun have CAI duct is the filter pan flat?

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Added on October 28, 2007, 11:31 ami suggest you dont use the iswara for sliding/drifting
the chassis is not very stiff
very easy to flex...and thus cause fatigue to the system
if use for drift,...i suggest you get money ready to buy a new car in under 5 years

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 28 2007, 11:31 AM

wash, polish n wax urself lar
u tak sayang ur car ke? hehehe

engine can be cleaned using spray on degreasers
they come in cans...like spray paint...but usually abit taller
selley's is quite good

i used another one before
orange color can
cant remember the brand tho
that was good too
it was a 3 in 1
can even use to clean aircond!
very effective wan

when the engine is warm,...just spray on all the oily/greasy/dirty parts
then spray off with water
kautim!

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Added on October 28, 2007, 11:41 amwaaa....no power steering ar....kenot man...(i lazy hahaha)

ooo
ya
i asked my sc to warranty d
but wen the boss saw it he said it has been tampered with before delivery
(i think this is a defective unit...then the ppl at the assembly line exchanged it for the original good unit in my car then went to sell the good unit)
so have to contact sa...coz if send in for warranty management wont approve
so i called sa
sa said that have to talk to kl

now i was pissed
told the sa to kautim with the sc n dont give me any runaround bs
(in a polite way ofcourse )
so then he said ok
just called to check with sc ydy
boss said ordered from kl d

that time when sa said have to call kl his excuse was "spare part all i dont know how proton do...im just a salesman"
i got so pissed wen he said that i straight told him "ok...i'll tell you how proton works....the warranty claim is placed and once it goes through the parts are sent down from the parts center in glenmarie shah alam"
then he said he not sure about that....
then i told him "no...i know you are not sure, even though you work for proton,...so i am telling you now how it works"
then he said ok ok he will call the sc n ask them to warranty it
...idiot


btw,my ac tube touches the top of my CAI duct at the flexible joint part...but barely...
so i put a piece of insuflex inbetween to prevent any possible wear caused by rubbing

heyz...can pls post up a pic of your air filter box connecting to the duct?
wana see what other lmst's r like
mine is really crappy
thanks


This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 28 2007, 11:49 AM

wah
din know that could happen
dangerous lor like that
at high speed brake wont grip properly then once the caliper is damaged

yup
both insuflex n superlon are fire retardants
even if you put a flame to it it will not burn...it will just like...char...but then once the flame is removed...it just smokes a little n then stops...thats it!
no prob
will shoot a photo later n upload

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Added on October 28, 2007, 12:50 pmafter deform no need to change?
can we still use it back?

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 28 2007, 12:50 PM

err...isnt skimming usually done on the brake disc?
didnt know could skim d caliper oso
which part they skim?...d 2 supports opposite the piston?

ok
heres some pics

insuflex is the stuff i used to insulate my car...d sound damping
i posted the address of the company i got it from in v6
u can get it from them real cheap
i just used one of the bits that i saved

heres sum pics of my dad's air filter








and heres the pic of the insuflex bit that i used between the ac pipe and the CAI duct

tu lar...thats y i confused wen they say 1 2 skim the caliper n all

mine flat
but wkho said his abit tilting or sumthing
afaik, as long as the wing nut is tightened properly, the filter pan will be flat on the carbie intake

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Added on October 28, 2007, 3:13 pmtaikor?...ahahaha...wer got...
the big one will be abit hot lor
its the expanded gas coming back from the car cabin
absorbed all the heat d n now coming to dump it at the radiator
so it will be hot...but not sooo hot lar...but i think can burn ur hand a little if u touch it during operation

but the main reason i use insuflex is coz its in the engine bay
when installing things in the engine bay, we must always take into consideration the heat and thus the risk of fire
so we should use materials that minimize the fire hazard
insuflex is not combustible...therefore installing it does not increast the risk of fire

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 28 2007, 03:13 PM

hmm...i didnt mean flat as in flat=horizontal
i meant flat as is...like...ngam with the carbie intake...not tertonggek until air can leak in