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post Jan 8 2024, 05:19 PM, updated 9 months ago

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Eco Summer(Taman Ekoflora) is a 20acre garden concept residential development situated in Tebrau,Johor.

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Jalan Ekoflora 1,
Taman Ekoflora,
81100 Johor Bahru,
Johor




Eco Spring (Taman Ekoflora) at Tebrau Corridor, Iskandar, is a 614-acre freehold township featuring stunning residential and commercial products. It is also surrounded by colourful gardens, lush greenery and pristine lakes.


ECO SPRING & ECO SUMMER SHOW VILLAGE
ECO SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT SDN. BHD. (201201016760 (1002271-V))
ECO SUMMER SDN. BHD. (201401000315 (1076385-V))




Jalan Ekoflora 1,
Taman Ekoflora,
81100 Johor Bahru,
Johor Darul Takzim,
Malaysia.



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Eco Summer’s South Garden and North Garden, which offer a total of 1,255 double-storey garden homes, have been 71% sold to date. Prices for the homes range from RM790,000 to RM2.5 million.

Eco Spring and Eco Summer have a ******* combined land area of 613.8 acres ********** and GDV of RM5.87 billion. Both townships are easily accessible via major highways, including the Eastern Dispersal Link, the North-South Highway and the Pasir Gudang Highway.

In addition, amenities like medical centres, supermarkets, hypermarkets, international schools, transportation hubs and tertiary education institutions are conveniently available in the vicinity.











Very nice!!!


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Rm 2.2 millions


**Property Details** **Description**
**Project Name** KENT Residences
**Property Type** Double Storey Semi-D
**Address** Jalan Ekoflora 1X
**Land Size** 50 x 80 (4,000 sqft)
**Built-Up Area** 4,030 sqft
**Number of Rooms** 5 Bedrooms & 6 Bathrooms
**Tenure** Freehold
**Title** **** Strata Title ***** Even you buy a corner lot house, yoi cannot make 1 more car poach door..... ****
**Lot Type** Intermediate Lot
**Gated & Guarded** Yes
**Maintenance Fee** RM 480 / Monthly
**Additional Information** Last Unit Original Bare Unit at Eco Spring<br>The Biggest Size Semi-D

















2014 september 20

Grand Opening








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near Aeon Tebrau
Near Ikea Tebrau
Toppen Shopping Centre
Lotus's Tebrau










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Address: Eco Spring, Jalan Ekoflora 1, Taman Ekoflora, Tebrau, Johor

Property Type:
Cluster, Semi Detached Homes and Bungalows

Land Title: Residential

No of Storeys: 2

Total Units: 460

Tenure: Freehold

Sales Gallery: EcoWorld Gallery @ Eco Spring, Jalan Ekoflora 1, Taman Ekoflora, 81100 Johor Bahru, Johor Darul Takzim, Malaysia

Site GPS Coordinates: 1.588244, 103.758450

Completion Date: May 2017




1600 sq ft


4 +4


RM 800,000


Why so expensive?

Last time only RM 650,000



Eco Spring, Bradford

2 Storey Cluster House

4Bedrooms + 1 store room
5Bathrooms


Land Area 2800sqft(35x80)

Built Up 2860sqft



Rm 1 million above


1.588244, 103.758450

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post Jan 8 2024, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 8 2024, 05:19 PM)
Eco summer @ Eco Spring is a 20acre garden concept residential development situated in Tebrau,Johor.
1600 sq ft
4 +4
RM 800,000
Why so expensive?

Last time only RM 650,000
Eco Spring, Bradford

2 Storey Cluster House

4Bedrooms + 1 store room
5Bathrooms
Land Area 2800sqft(35x80)

Built Up 2860sqft
Rm 1 million above
1.588244, 103.758450
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There is no more new launch in eco summer. Last phase of eco summer was launched pre 2000 covid time. No more land.

Currently only eco spring is available.

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post Jan 8 2024, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 8 2024, 05:41 PM)
There is no more new launch in eco summer. Last phase of eco summer was launched pre 2000 covid time. No more land.

Currently only eco spring is available.
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Last time eco spring 22*70
Only 650k around


Now all increase price?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 8 2024, 07:34 PM)
Last time eco spring 22*70
Only 650k around
Now all increase price?
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22x70 650k was eco summer. Eco spring never had 650 price tag even from phase 1 in about 2008/9

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 8 2024, 07:58 PM)
22x70 650k was eco summer. Eco spring never had 650 price tag even from phase 1 in about 2008/9
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why eco summer cheap price?

Very inside location?


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post Jan 9 2024, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 8 2024, 11:36 PM)
why eco summer cheap price?

Very inside location?
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Both are next to each other, separate entrance.

Summer are all terrace. Spring no terrace. Spring cater for bungalow, sd and lately garden home cluster (smaller BU). High demand for 1m+ product but not >2m after summer exhausted their land. You build terrace in Spring, existing buyers here gonna rage 😡😡.
Many are palladium and business park investors, don't step the foot of existing buyers pool (potential repeated buyers) and roti prata is a no-no unless they opt to change course

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 9 2024, 07:37 AM)
Both are next to each other, separate entrance.

Summer are all terrace. Spring no terrace. Spring cater for bungalow, sd and lately garden home cluster (smaller BU). High demand for 1m+ product but not >2m after summer exhausted their land. You build terrace in Spring, existing buyers here gonna rage 😡😡.
Many are palladium and business park investors, don't step the foot of existing buyers pool (potential repeated buyers) and roti prata is a no-no unless they opt to change course
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Thanks for sharing.

Eco Summer have commercial lots and lake?

Seems this eco spring almost like eco botanic price...

So expensive.....

Masai development seems bright
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 9 2024, 09:09 AM)
Thanks for sharing.

Eco Summer have commercial lots and lake?

Seems this eco spring almost like eco botanic price...

So expensive.....

Masai development seems bright
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Palladium is the commercial lots for both summer and spring. No lake but have 3-4 retention ponds in (not sure on summer side) and a long wide deep canal on the frontage. This where you have 2 separate bridge entrances into summer and spring respectively.

Masai, you referring to Eco Tropics. If you like Masai/ PG area. Tropics have a larger dev land area than Eco Flora here.

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post Jan 9 2024, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 9 2024, 09:39 AM)
Palladium is the commercial lots for both summer and spring. No lake but have 3-4 retention ponds in spring (not sure on summer side) connected to a long wide deep canal on the frontage. This where you have 2 separate bridge entrances into summer and spring respectively.

Masai, you referring to Eco Tropics. If you like Masai/ PG area. Tropics have a larger dev land area than Eco Flora here.
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Eco tropics price is 550 k right?


I think i remember wrong name
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post Jan 9 2024, 10:57 AM

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Eco tropics price is 550 k right?
I think i remember wrong name
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Sorry. I got no clue of their pricing there.
You can visit their sales gallery, i been there only once many years back
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post Jan 9 2024, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 9 2024, 10:57 AM)
Sorry. I got no clue of their pricing there.
You can visit their sales gallery, i been there only once many years back
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https://www.facebook.com/100064568117210/po...YqxGFl/?app=fbl


I will go this event

Seems nice event
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post Jan 9 2024, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 9 2024, 12:59 PM)
The usual annual event.
This (your FB link) is for Spring's sales gallery and show house ya. Not Tropics

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post Jan 9 2024, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 9 2024, 01:06 PM)
The usual annual event.
This (your FB link) is for Spring's sales gallery and show house ya. Not Tropics
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One is austin area(tebrau) , the another is masai.....

Why just not taman musim bunga ?

Shared route



From

Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan © Kuo Kuang 1,
Batu 8 1/2,
Skudai Hwy,
Taman Ungku Tun Aminah,
81300 Skudai,
Johor.

to

Eco Spring, 1, Jalan Ekoflora Utama,
Taman Ekoflora,
81100 Johor Bahru,
Johor.


via Jalan Kempas Lama.

35 min (17 km)
For the best route in current traffic visit https://maps.app.goo.gl/uLYMdA94cdNCy3TX7

Go through outside of Eco business park

2 names somemore

In official addreas (letter ,cukai harta,cukai tanah, geran tanah)

1, Jalan Ekoflora Utama,
Taman Ekoflora,
81100 Johor Bahru,
Johor.



Jalan Eko Tropika 3/11,
Taman Kota Masai,
81700 Pasir Gudang,
Johor



I easy confuse


I notics some taman no more event like setia eco garden or eco tropics..


Due to sales no good?

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One is austin area(tebrau)  , the another is masai.....

Why just not taman musim bunga ?

Shared route
From Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan © Kuo Kuang, Batu 8 1/2, Skudai Hwy, Taman Ungku Tun Aminah, 81300 Skudai, Johor, Malaysia to Eco Spring, 1, Jalan Ekoflora Utama, Taman Ekoflora, 81100 Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia via Jalan Kempas Lama.

35 min (17 km)
For the best route in current traffic visit https://maps.app.goo.gl/uLYMdA94cdNCy3TX7

Go through outside of Eco business park

2 names somemore

In official addreas (letter ,cukai harta,cukai tanah, geran tanah)

1, Jalan Ekoflora Utama,
Taman Ekoflora,
81100 Johor Bahru,
Johor.
Jalan Eko Tropika 3/11,
Taman Kota Masai,
81700 Pasir Gudang,
Johor
I easy confuse
I notics some taman no more event like setia eco garden or eco tropics..
Due to sales no good?
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Yup, your shared route is correct to the event (eco spring) on 27 Jan.
Opposite is Palladium.

1, Jalan Ekoflora Utama,
Taman Ekoflora,
81100 Johor Bahru,

Separetely,
Eco Tropic is at Jalan Eko Tropika 3/11,
Taman Kota Masai,
81700 Pasir Gudang

You may check their own FB (Tropic) page separetely for event

Setia eco garden is by SP Setia at Iskandar, Gelang Patah.
Eco Botanic is by EcoWorld is also at Iskandar, Gelang Patah.
Eco Flora (summer & spring) at terbau, near austin is by EcoWorld.
Eco Tropic is at Masai, Pasir gudang is also by EcoWorld

Hope this clears your confusion

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 9 2024, 10:47 AM)
Eco tropics price is 550 k right?
I think i remember wrong name
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The earlier phases was around 500k+- if not mistaken. Back then visited EcoSpring Sales Gallery, the Semi-D 32x75(or 80 i forgot) is selling at 1.3m. The higher end bungalow is going at around 2.2m during that time. They then launched EcoSummer (only 2-Storey Terrace) to cater lower end market which the launching price back then was 9xxK (after discount is around 8xxk if i rmb correctly).

Comparing all the JB EW projects, the most prestige location to me is EcoSpring & EcoSummer, followed by EcoBotanic and last is EcoTropic. Just went EcoPalladium last week and it's damn happening (day for cafes & night for drinking/bubble-tea sessions), I'd say quite a success as a commercial area. EcoBotanic is also super happening at night but that one quite far away from where I stay so I seldom go biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 9 2024, 03:57 PM)
The earlier phases was around 500k+- if not mistaken. Back then visited EcoSpring Sales Gallery, the Semi-D 32x75(or 80 i forgot) is selling at 1.3m. The higher end bungalow is going at around 2.2m during that time. They then launched EcoSummer (only 2-Storey Terrace) to cater lower end market which the launching price back then was 9xxK (after discount is around 8xxk if i rmb correctly).

Comparing all the JB EW projects, the most prestige location to me is EcoSpring & EcoSummer, followed by EcoBotanic and last is EcoTropic. Just went EcoPalladium last week and it's damn happening (day for cafes & night for drinking/bubble-tea sessions), I'd say quite a success as a commercial area. EcoBotanic is also super happening at night but that one quite far away from where I stay so I seldom go  biggrin.gif
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Most near to jb second link custom is Eco Botanic right?

But there have many telco tower at there.

Actually eco spring and eco summer is Neighbours right?


Just because it have 2 different price?

1 expensive and 1 is cheaper?



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nst.com.my/node/901133/amp


DUDUK by EcoWorld has been gaining buzz thanks to its new vertical living experience.

While many have been caught up in car trends like electric vehicles (EVs), 'duduk' is the new talk of town, as it offers a dreamable lifestyle with necessities such as a stunning environment, comprehensive facilities and amenities, all at an attainable price point, without compromising on quality of life.

It has received overwhelming response since its launch at Huni D' Eco Ardence and Se.Ruang D' Eco Sanctuary.

duduk by EcoWorld is now expanding the project to existing townships, including


Sa.Young D' Eco Botanic

, Santai D' Eco Spring,

Riang D' Eco Majestic and

Hana D' Eco Ardence.




It is an ideal choice for young professionals, newlyweds, retirees and anyone who desires to live their best life.


Small condo


But cheap

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 9 2024, 04:03 PM)
Most near to jb second link custom is Eco Botanic right?

But there have many telco tower at there.

Actually  eco spring and eco summer is Neighbours right?
Just because it have 2 different price?

1 expensive and 1 is cheaper?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nst.com.my/node/901133/amp
DUDUK by EcoWorld has been gaining buzz thanks to its new vertical living experience.

While many have been caught up in car trends like electric vehicles (EVs), 'duduk' is the new talk of town, as it offers a dreamable lifestyle with necessities such as a stunning environment, comprehensive facilities and amenities, all at an attainable price point, without compromising on quality of life.

It has received overwhelming response since its launch at Huni D' Eco Ardence and Se.Ruang D' Eco Sanctuary.

duduk by EcoWorld is now expanding the project to existing townships, including
Sa.Young D' Eco Botanic

, Santai D' Eco Spring,

Riang D' Eco Majestic and

Hana D' Eco Ardence.
It is an ideal choice for young professionals, newlyweds, retirees and anyone who desires to live their best life.
Small condo
But cheap
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All those that you mentioned are affordable series under ecoworld brand. Its a standard requirement for a developer to provide (affordable housing) in its development plot ratio if you understand the national housing policy criteria.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 9 2024, 04:03 PM)
Most near to jb second link custom is Eco Botanic right?

But there have many telco tower at there.

Actually  eco spring and eco summer is Neighbours right?
Just because it have 2 different price?

1 expensive and 1 is cheaper?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nst.com.my/node/901133/amp
DUDUK by EcoWorld has been gaining buzz thanks to its new vertical living experience.

While many have been caught up in car trends like electric vehicles (EVs), 'duduk' is the new talk of town, as it offers a dreamable lifestyle with necessities such as a stunning environment, comprehensive facilities and amenities, all at an attainable price point, without compromising on quality of life.

It has received overwhelming response since its launch at Huni D' Eco Ardence and Se.Ruang D' Eco Sanctuary.

duduk by EcoWorld is now expanding the project to existing townships, including
Sa.Young D' Eco Botanic

, Santai D' Eco Spring,

Riang D' Eco Majestic and

Hana D' Eco Ardence.
It is an ideal choice for young professionals, newlyweds, retirees and anyone who desires to live their best life.
Small condo
But cheap
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Yup Eco Botanic is nearest to 2nd link since its located right on Iskandar Puteri. Sekarang mana-mana pun a lot telco tower lo, unless move to rural area.

Yes, EcoSummer is just right beside EcoSpring but they are not physically connected through roads internally, and they have their own access and guardhouses. EcoSpring is for upper market, starting from cluster house up to bungalow. Whereas EcoSummer is targetting a mid market and consists of terrace (not sure they got superlink or not). If you drive to that area, you'll see EcoSpring's grand guardhouse first which is right in front of the roundabout. EcoSummer's entrance you'll need to travel quite a bit inwards to see the guardhouse and there are landed social housing at the deep end of the road by the same developer as well.

Never visited their showroom again since the launch of the Duduk series but I can see its aiming towards a more afforable market (which mentioned by jojo), just like Mah Sing's M series products.
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 10 2024, 12:12 AM)
Yup Eco Botanic is nearest to 2nd link since its located right on Iskandar Puteri. Sekarang mana-mana pun a lot telco tower lo, unless move to rural area.

Yes, EcoSummer is just right beside EcoSpring but they are not physically connected through roads internally, and they have their own access and guardhouses. EcoSpring is for upper market, starting from cluster house up to bungalow. Whereas EcoSummer is targetting a mid market and consists of terrace (not sure they got superlink or not). If you drive to that area, you'll see EcoSpring's grand guardhouse first which is right in front of the roundabout. EcoSummer's entrance you'll need to travel quite a bit inwards to see the guardhouse and there are landed social housing at the deep end of the road by the same developer as well.

Never visited their showroom again since the launch of the Duduk series but I can see its aiming towards a more afforable market  (which mentioned by jojo), just like Mah Sing's M series products.
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May I know what is the difference between terrace and superlink house?


Landed social housing means?
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May I know what is the difference between terrace and superlink house?
Landed social housing means?
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Terrace is the traditional rumah teres, while superlink is a more recent kind of design where either the car porch or the back yard/garden is extended and the width is wider (maybe 24 feet or more) than the traditional terrace (which is 20 or 22 feet in width).

Social housing means like rumahWIP, rumah SelangorKU, Pr1ma, and in this case i think is RMMJ lah which government requires developer to allocate certain plot of land to build affordable houses (if not mistaken the RMMJ scheme home price starts at RM150K). Usually social housing is apartment, but for this case its landed so the owners who got the lot drew to their name is kinda lucky lo with price tag of 150k you can get a landed home some more is just beside the prestige address and happening commercial just a stone throw away.

There are also a few rows of affordable single storey commercial right beside it as well. Not sure it's doing well or not, my last visit there was before MCO and its just completed by that time so not much of activity there.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 12:46 AM)
May I know what is the difference between terrace and superlink house?
Landed social housing means?
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Don't be confused by their marketing gimmick.

Just to share a story, years ago friend of my relative bought the Simforni apartment at Eco Majestic with about 180k -200k (another same product is called Harmoni), he thought it will be same prestige look like those landed house that he visited at the sales gallery, claimed he was told the same when he bought. After VP, he start complaint for all the things and let go at losses after 1 year, never move in, as it is indeed low cost apartments for affordable housing scheme required by law, what he was promised was he can see all the nice landscapes on all roads in eco Majestic, but not the linear garden and central garden provide in landed hohse area. His apartment got simple playground and swimming pool saja la, plus some simple landscape. Under the law, it is obligation of each developer to provide affordable houses in their project. These apartments are with slightly better infra compare to others (maybe guard house look nicer abit), but it doesn't change the fact that it is low cost apartments to meet law requirement. His expectations was that his apartment should be compatible with the 800k landed that he visited at show gallery there. So my advice to buyer who wan to buy eco world product is always get your understanding correctly, know exactly on what you are paying. Take eco majestic as example, for them to get approval to build the township, government required them to provide at least 3000 units of affordable houses below RM200k, but up from 700-1000 sqf, which are now the Harmoni and Simforni apartments that you can see, then only they can sell those 2500 units of landed houses from minimum 600k-RM2mil or above, plus shoplot and now the new Condo under Duduk series.

I saw you have been asking from semi d to terrace, and now Duduk series. Duduk is like condo, one level up from those low cost apartment. It is set below 400k for 1000 sqf-1200 sqf, so Eco World also name it as affordable houses. But don't expect for low density, confirm over 1000 units with multiple blocks on same plot of land.
The GOOD THING of Duduk is it is really convenient to the max, like Riang D Eco Majestic, it is built on the land next to Jaya grocer, surrounded by EcoMajestic commercial area. All walking distance.

Semi d and terrace no doubt will be expensive, they now also come out with townhouse name as Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front of the house. Here in eco forest Semenyih they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.

So please visit to their sales gallery for correct information. To avoid mismatch of your expectation

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:24 AM)
Don't be confused by their marketing gimmick.

Just to share a story, years ago friend of my relative bought the Simforni apartment at Eco Majestic with about 180k -200k (another same product is called Harmoni), he thought it will be same prestige look like those landed house that he visited at the sales gallery, claimed he was told the same when he bought. After VP, he start complaint for all the things and let go at losses after 1 year, never move in, as it is indeed low cost apartments for affordable housing scheme required by law, what he was promised was he can see all the nice landscapes on all roads in eco Majestic, but not the linear garden and central garden provide in landed hohse area, got playground and swimming pool saja la. Developer is liable to provide affordable houses in their project. These apartments are with slightly better infra compare to others (maybe guard house look nicer abit), but it doesn't change the fact that it is low cost apartments.  His expectations was that his apartment should be compatible with the 800k landed that he visited at show gallery there. So my advice to buyer who wan to buy eco world product is always get your understanding correctly, know exactly on what you are paying. Take eco majestic as example, for them to get approval to build the township, government required them to provide at least 3000 units of affordable houses below RM200k, which are the Harmoni and Simforni apartments, then only can sell those 2500 units of landed houses from minimum 600k-RM2mil, plus shoplot and now new Condo under Duduk series.

I see you has been asking from semi d to terrace, and now Duduk series. Duduk is like condo, one level up from those low cost apartments required by law. It is set below 400k for 1000 sqf-1200 sqf, so Eco World also name it as affordable houses. But don't expect for low density, confirm over 1000 units with multiple blocks on same plot of land.
The GOOD THING of Duduk is it is really convenient to the max, like Riang Eco Majestic, it is built on the land next to Jaya grocer, surrounded by EcoMajestic commercial area.

Semi d and terrace no doubt will be expensive, they now also come out with townhouse names as Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front the house. Here in eco forest they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.

So please go to visit their sales gallery for correct information. You need to see their master plan, and their exact design and pricing of product.
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Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front the house. Here in eco forest they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.


Wah,the geran how ah?

Split to 2?
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 10 2024, 12:12 AM)
Yup Eco Botanic is nearest to 2nd link since its located right on Iskandar Puteri. Sekarang mana-mana pun a lot telco tower lo, unless move to rural area.

Yes, EcoSummer is just right beside EcoSpring but they are not physically connected through roads internally, and they have their own access and guardhouses. EcoSpring is for upper market, starting from cluster house up to bungalow. Whereas EcoSummer is targetting a mid market and consists of terrace (not sure they got superlink or not). If you drive to that area, you'll see EcoSpring's grand guardhouse first which is right in front of the roundabout. EcoSummer's entrance you'll need to travel quite a bit inwards to see the guardhouse and there are landed social housing at the deep end of the road by the same developer as well.

Never visited their showroom again since the launch of the Duduk series but I can see its aiming towards a more afforable market  (which mentioned by jojo), just like Mah Sing's M series products.
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No, there is no superlink in summer. Largest BU in summer is a 22' footer

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:31 AM)
Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front the house. Here in eco forest they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.
Wah,the geran how ah?

Split to 2?
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Of course different geran, it doesn't look much different from other double storey terrace and semi d houses in the same prescient, just that they split the upper floor and ground floor into two units, upper floor unit usually slightl cheaper as you need to climb staircase to go up to your unit. Ground floor got his own entrance door, both doors are separated like usual townhouse. You still can have same perimeter fencing with nice landscape surrounding the whole housing area, and can walk to the central garden. All unit shared the management fee based on built up.

This co home also fully sold out at here, heard alot parents bought it, upper floor for their son to stay with wife, parent stay ground floor unit. So both can have their own private space kept.

And if you like to extend your house with major renovation, then no need to check eco world product, their landed all are under strata title, so max is for you to install grill (follow guidelines) or retractable owning, it the house design is open concept without front gate, then you CAN NOT install front auto gate also. Really saw some owner did complaint this in group chat, but nobody reply to him, hahaha

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 12:46 AM)
May I know what is the difference between terrace and superlink house?
Landed social housing means?
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The Santai D' Eco Spring you mentioned in one of your post is the affordable social housing.

It is a apartment units and NOT landed social housing.

The Santai is located opposite the club house (the former Eco Lab site) before the canal. This site is neither inside Spring nor Summer G&G resi compound.

Technically, there is no landed social housing under Duduk brand, all apartments like those you mentioned ie riang, huni, hana etc

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:49 AM)
Of course different geran, it doesn't look much different from other double storey terrace and semi d houses in the same prescient, just that they split the upper floor and ground floor into two units, upper floor unit usually slightl cheaper as you need to climb staircase to go up to your unit. Ground floor got his own entrance door, both doors are separated like usual townhouse. You still can have same perimeter fencing with nice landscape surrounding the whole housing area, and can walk to the central garden. All unit shared the management fee based on built up.

This co home also fully sold out at here, heard alot parents bought it, upper floor for their son to stay with wife, parent stay ground floor unit. So both can have their own private space kept.

And if you like to extend your house with major renovation, then no need to check eco world product, their landed all are under strata title, so max is for you to install grill (follow guidelines) or retractable owning, it the house design is open concept without front gate, then you CAN NOT install front auto gate also. Really saw some owner did complaint this in group chat, but nobody reply to him, hahaha
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it the house design is open concept without front gate, then you CAN NOT install front auto gate also.


Forever cannot install front gate?


Taman Sutera Utama near sutera mall until now also 1 zone no front gate



No wonder.....
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:31 AM)
Co-Home, mean upper floor and ground floor are two different units, each unit got their parking in front the house. Here in eco forest they sell at abt 480-580k last year, about 1300 sqf.
Wah,the geran how ah?

Split to 2?
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Actually the term "Co-home" is also marketing la haha. Back then its called town house where a 2 storey house is a split unit of ground unit and 1st floor unit, where the front car porch is evenly distributed for the units, 1 each. And usually such kind of setting the house will not have pagar one. In JB i think Sutera has some sort of similar project, not sure whats the name.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 10 2024, 10:42 AM)
No, there is no superlink in summer. Largest BU in summer is a 22' footer
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Then my memory recalls right hahaha tongue.gif That was way back then when I visited their showroom, the EcoSpring project only got showhouse to view. Can nicely get carried by buggy from show gallery to the show unit itself.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 10 2024, 10:57 AM)
The Santai D' Eco Spring you mentioned in one of your post is the affordable social housing.

It is a apartment units and NOT landed social housing.

The Santai is located opposite the club house (the former Eco Lab site) before the canal. This site is neither inside Spring nor Summer G&G resi compound.

Technically, there is no landed social housing under Duduk brand, all apartments like those you mentioned ie riang, huni, hana etc
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I think maybe he misunderstood what I meant lol. But I just went google map and found out that there are tons of social housing completed and on-going at the back of EcoSpring.
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 10 2024, 01:23 PM)
Actually the term "Co-home" is also marketing la haha. Back then its called town house where a 2 storey house is a split unit of ground unit and 1st floor unit, where the front car porch is evenly distributed for the units, 1 each. And usually such kind of setting the house will not have pagar one. In JB i think Sutera has some sort of similar project, not sure whats the name.
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https://www.tanahsutera.com/the-seed-project-page-1-6.aspx


Sutera one is the seed.


Gated and guarded.


Condo but seeems sales no good.quite strange actually
The staircase at behind one.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 01:19 PM)
it the house design is open concept without front gate, then you CAN NOT install front auto gate also.
Forever cannot install front gate?
Taman Sutera Utama near sutera mall until now also 1 zone no front gate
No wonder.....
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Yes you can't. Because for any renovation, you need to declare on what you plan to do to the office, then they will review and approve, then only you can pay deposit, and register your contractor for them to issue contractor pass. It take time, any wrong doing found will cause your deposit being deducted. My deposit for renovation last time was RM5k. If your contractor did anything which was never approved by office, like install the auto gate, your deposit will be deducted, and you need to hire contractor to remove the gate and restore the pillar and redo paint work.
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Yes you can't. Because for any renovation, you need to declare on what you plan to do to the office, then they will review and approve, then only you can pay deposit, and register your contractor for them to issue contractor pass. It take time, any wrong doing found will cause your deposit being deducted. My deposit for renovation last time was RM5k. If your contractor did anything which was never approved by office, like install the auto gate, your deposit will be deducted, and you need to hire contractor to remove the gate and restore the pillar and redo paint work.
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If I only want to paint the outside wall from the original color (for example, light yellow) to white, do I need approval from them as well?

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If I paint the orginal colour(for example light yellow) to white colour ,need to approved by them also?
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If the area is inside your house then is up to your decision, if the area is for exterior facade, then definitely you can't change the colour, they won't approve anything that will change the facade of the house to ensure uniformity. In JB I not sure, but for my house here Max is for you to install retractable awning at car porch, shoes cabinet (at allocated area), and door grill only, all got guidelines for you to follow. like door grill, we can only choose in white or black colour, and only two patterns for you to choose, those fancy fancy grill design are excluded.


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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 10 2024, 02:45 PM)
If the area is inside your house then is up to your decision, if the area is for exterior facade, then definitely you can't change the colour, they won't approve anything that will change the facade of the house to ensure uniformity. In JB I not sure, but for my house here Max is for you to install retractable awning at car porch, shoes cabinet (at allocated area), and door grill  only, all got guidelines for you to follow. like door grill, we can  only choose in white or black colour, and only two patterns for you to choose, those fancy fancy grill design are excluded.
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Thanks for sharing such detailed information. Is it only the two designs approved by the developer, like this?

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Thanks for sharing such detailed information. Is it only the two designs approved by the developer, like this?

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I refer to my house guidelines, stainless steel is okay, but the design need to follow. In your first picture, the door can not be used because got round shape design plus straight-line, so it has to be either in straight line or in square. Must look simple.

The second one is okay, but the top bar is too long, can not over the total width of the two door panels

The third one langsung can not. Because bottom got cover. And to be honest all the grill in your pictures look very ugly, hahaha

And also, the grill only can be installed at Outside of your house for front door and glass panel door at groundfloor. Kitchen door at the back langsung can't do anything because outside will be linear garden, Eco world only give you transparent glass door with aluminium frame. So you can only either put blinder inside your house to cover the glass or make it frost or do tinting, CAN NOT put grill inside for kitchen door. For windows, and balcony glass panel door, can put grill but must be installed inside, cannot be at outside of your house.

So I only install security mesh door to cover my front door and three glass panel doors at ground floor.

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I refer to my house guidelines, stainless steel is okay, but the design need to follow. In your first picture, the door can not be used because got round shape design plus straight-line, so it has to be either in straight line or in square. Must look simple.

The second one is okay, but the top bar is too long, can not over the total width of the two door panels

The third one langsung can not. Because bottom got cover. And to be honest all the grill in your pictures look very ugly, hahaha

And also, the grill only can be installed at Outside of your house for front door and glass panel door at groundfloor. Kitchen door at the back langsung can't do anything because outside will be linear garden, Eco world only give you transparent glass door with aluminium frame. So you can only either put blinder inside your house to cover the glass or make it frost or do tinting, CAN NOT put grill inside for kitchen door. For windows, and balcony glass panel door, can put grill but must be installed inside, cannot be at outside of your house.

So I only install security mesh door to cover my front door and three glass panel doors at ground floor.
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One more, canopy at the rear is allowed but must stop short before your rear wall. You need to extend the scupper drain to the wall as well if you do canopy. Make sure no rain water gushing/ over-run into the common linear garden space as a result of your canopy

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 10 2024, 04:00 PM)
I refer to my house guidelines, stainless steel is okay, but the design need to follow. In your first picture, the door can not be used because got round shape design plus straight-line, so it has to be either in straight line or in square. Must look simple.

The second one is okay, but the top bar is too long, can not over the total width of the two door panels

The third one langsung can not. Because bottom got cover. And to be honest all the grill in your pictures look very ugly, hahaha

And also, the grill only can be installed at Outside of your house for front door and glass panel door at groundfloor. Kitchen door at the back langsung can't do anything because outside will be linear garden, Eco world only give you transparent glass door with aluminium frame. So you can only either put blinder inside your house to cover the glass or make it frost or do tinting, CAN NOT put grill inside for kitchen door. For windows, and balcony glass panel door, can put grill but must be installed inside, cannot be at outside of your house.

So I only install security mesh door to cover my front door and three glass panel doors at ground floor.
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The last one design is good.
As cat cannot come in to your house.

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 10 2024, 06:06 PM)
One more, canopy at the rear is allowed but must stop short before your rear wall. You need to extend the scupper drain to the wall as well if you do canopy. Make sure no rain water gushing/ over-run into the common linear garden space as a result of your canopy
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So nice, my side here very strict, nothing can be installed on rear exterior wall. Even trunking for wire also need to conceal.


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 06:39 PM)
The last one design is good.
As cat cannot come in to your house.
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Basically the glass door with aluminium frame already block all insects and animal, just that they can still come in if you keep the door open for ventilation, and your neighbour at the back can see the interior of your house. So I never see any neighbour open the door, including myself. At most when relative or friend come and want to go out to see the back linear garden.
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Basically the glass door with aluminium frame already block all insects and animal, just that they can still come in if you keep the door open for ventilation, and your neighbour at the back can see the interior of your house. So I never see any neighbour open the door, including myself. At most when relative or friend come and want to go out to see the back linear garden.
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The glass door like this?
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All in all, as long as the property is under strata title, ANY external work will require permission from the management body. I mean ANY work including slight painting with a change of color.

No permission granted = Prohibited

Got good and bad lor. Good is everyone's house looks unified and almost as stock. Bad is your creativity gets limited haha
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 10 2024, 11:48 PM)
All in all, as long as the property is under strata title, ANY external work will require permission from the management body. I mean ANY work including slight painting with a change of color.

No permission granted = Prohibited

Got good and bad lor. Good is everyone's house looks unified and almost as stock. Bad is your creativity gets limited haha
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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?


"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."


All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:31 PM)
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The glass door like this?
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Almost same, but I think it can not be accepted because the surface of glass is uneven, it come with "design" make it look different from the glass door at other house.

This is the back kitchen door given by eco world, I only install blinder to cover the door and window.

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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?
"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

This many renovation
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No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? I guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 07:56 AM)
No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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Eco Flora (Spring & Summer) is by ecoworld not SP Setia.
Eco Cascadia which is
800m away is by SP Setia.


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Eco Flora (Spring & Summer) is by ecoworld not SP Setia.
Eco Cascadia which is
800m away is by SP Setia.
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I see, then this is beyond my knowledge, lol. Because my one is intermediate double storey.

Maybe extension is allowable for semi d or bungalow unit, need those who own this kind of house for advice.

Maybe different house design got different rules to follow, like the new prescient next to my taman, Eco world give 10 feet empty land at the back for these new house, then only reach the linear garden, so that day i got go kei poh awhile at slaes gallery, and the SA told me you can extend it for gardening with landscape, or dining area, cover with roof structure which can be permanent, as long as it is not fully cover with concrete wall, and of course need to follow their colour code and get approval. Eco world sometimes can be very creative in design.

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 07:56 AM)
No time to check my title yet, lol.

But yes, my wife and I must sign the DMC, and when we sell the house next time, we must inform office. The new buyer lawyer will ask for proof to show that we clear all mgmt fee, and from there it got write down condition when we sell the house, new owner must go to management office to apply access and become new billing ACC owner. For my house I not sure new owner have to sign new DMC or not, but guess same like my brother house whereby new owner need to sign undertaking letter attached with original DMC.

Is the Eko Flora built by SP Setia? I guess so, because SP Setia same like Gamuda, they don't follow strata title act like Eco World, their project is "individual title", then ask all buyer to sign DMC as new contracts for all of them to follow voluntary, so they can make it work like strata title project, but still maintain the flexibility to renovate exterior of your house. But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension. They govern by DMC as formal contract, so owner must follow rules also. And all renovation and extension also need to approve by office and follow guidelines and pay deposit determine by office, what I know is colour code confirm must follow. Like my relative house, he can only extend kitchen at the back, but he also can't install front gate because it is also open concept
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But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension.


So double storey terrace house ,middle unit cannot do entension,only corner lot can do?

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Eko flora is a Eco World Bhd project
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I see, maybe semi d or bungalow unit can do big renovation, you can check with SA also.

I just recall the new prescient next to my house also can do extension at their rear 10 feet empty land.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 11 2024, 09:09 AM)
But like my relative's house in Gamuda project, only corner lot, semi d, or bungalow can do extension.
So double storey terrace house ,middle unit cannot do entension,only corner lot can do?
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You mean my relative house in Gamuda? They can still do extension at their rear empty land, but due to DMC was signed during purchase, so they need to follow rules also, like submit details for approval and pay refundable deposit for contractor pass . If you say you wan extend your balcony out to be on top of car porch, make it totally different with your neighbour, then for sure the office won't approve la.

They did check with their management office, they can do extension on the 5 feet land at the back, and need to provide drawing. Car porch can do cover with permanent structure, but got specification need to follow also, but they didn't do it. And yes they can change the backyard door to security door, but i not sure whether got design pattern to follow or not. Because their one don't have design pattern also.
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Jan 11 2024, 08:44 AM)
I see, then this is beyond my knowledge, lol. Because my one is intermediate double storey.

Maybe extension is allowable for semi d or bungalow unit, need those who own this kind of house for advice.

Maybe different house design got different rules to follow, like the new prescient next to my taman, Eco world give 10 feet empty land at the back for these new house, then only reach the linear garden, so that day i got go kei poh awhile at slaes gallery, and the SA told me you can extend it for gardening with landscape, or dining area, cover with roof structure which can be permanent, as long as it is not fully cover with concrete wall, and of course need to follow their colour code and get approval. Eco world sometimes can be very creative in design.
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The photo you see in the fb post is phase 2 Daisy cluster home series corner.
The extension is for a varender with non-accessible roof structure on the side. The layout is restricted to the pre-approved standard design ie structure type, size, finishes etc to follow. Strictly NO wall up enclosure because GFA is affected.

So an uniform varender design is adopted

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"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

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I don't recall geran has the wording, but SPA definitely will state. The link you shared, I presume the home owner has already gotten approval from the management. If not sure kena kawkaw icon_idea.gif and for DMC yes lo all owner have to sign, imagine without the DMC, if 90% of the people pays maintenance, but the 10% don't, what will the 90% think? In landed strata projects, all their roads, street lights, garbage collection and gardening all is by the management body itself leh so definitely have to have a mutual agreement for all parties to pay up.


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I don't recall geran has the wording, but SPA definitely will state. The link you shared, I presume the home owner has already gotten approval from the management. If not sure kena kawkaw  icon_idea.gif and for DMC yes lo all owner have to sign, imagine without the DMC, if 90% of the people pays maintenance, but the 10% don't, what will the 90% think? In landed strata projects, all their roads, street lights, garbage collection and gardening all is by the management body itself leh so definitely have to have a mutual agreement for all parties to pay up.
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Stratafied is the binding DMC

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The photo you see in the fb post is phase 2 Daisy cluster home series corner.
The extension is for a varender with non-accessible roof structure on the side. The layout is restricted to the approved standard design ie structure type, size, finishes etc to follow. So an uniform varender design is adopted
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I see, that sound similar to what i been told by the SA, they have "standard design" and "specifications" for buyer to follow when they want to do extension on the rear empty land. The new project name is Cherrywood, their design is quite fancy, my wife passby there that day and say the houses there look very cute, haha



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I don't recall geran has the wording, but SPA definitely will state. The link you shared, I presume the home owner has already gotten approval from the management. If not sure kena kawkaw  icon_idea.gif and for DMC yes lo all owner have to sign, imagine without the DMC, if 90% of the people pays maintenance, but the 10% don't, what will the 90% think? In landed strata projects, all their roads, street lights, garbage collection and gardening all is by the management body itself leh so definitely have to have a mutual agreement for all parties to pay up.
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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?


The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?

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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?
The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?
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Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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May I know how is the gated and guarded resident rubbish collection process?


Developer will have 1 lorry come to each house and collect and put it in a big rubbish room beside guard house?
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I thought all homes,factory,flats,condo garbage collection in whole johor is owned by swm environment sdn bhd?
The green lorry still can go in eco world or s p setia or other gated and guarded housing area right?
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Not sure how is it work in JB, but in my area, rubbish disposal are still incharged by contractor engaged by Majlis Bandaraya Kajang.

Then management office got engaged another contractor to come on every Sunday morning to collect "recycle items" like your Tao bao boxes or boxes for electrical appliances. For those big waste item, like renovation waste, you need to rent Lolo bin and let the licensed contractor to throw them properly.
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QUOTE(Angellynx @ Jan 11 2024, 10:49 AM)
Nope, they don't enter strata properties. It is deemed private property and the private property management body will take care of everything inside the private property.

I joined a MBJB town hall in my old Taman last time (which is individual title, later formed G&G with comittees). We were told by the authorities if we were to enforce payment for all the owners in the taman, MBJB will no longer take care of all the maintenance inside the G&G area. Meaning to say if we chose that path, it will be on our own from there onwards. Problem with old taman G&G is some people will enjoy the security while not paying, you can force them to, and its morally wrong, but lawfully right not to pay. LOL

So its a give and take.
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Think your Taman same like my old house, which is under Residence Association, registered under society act, then RA ask all residents to sign on a simple letter for consent to set up perimeter fencing. In short, RA only incharge for security matter, the rest is still rely on Majlis Bandaraya. So under this kind of set up then yes, you need to bear with thick face free rider who don wan to pay. The most RA can do is to ask them use visitor lane as they don have access card, the guard must open the barrier for them to come in. So it is not fully G&G like strata property, unless ALL residents agreed to sign DMC as a formal Contract for everyone to follow same rule, including paying management fee compulsory, then after approve by Majlis Bandaraya, residents can form Joint Management Board.



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Think your Taman same like my old house, which is under Residence Association, registered under society act, then RA ask all residents to sign on a simple letter for consent to set up perimeter fencing.  In short, RA only incharge for security matter, the rest is still rely on Majlis Bandaraya. So under this kind of set up then yes, you need to bear with thick face free rider who don wan to pay. The most RA can do is to ask them use visitor lane as they don have access card, the guard must open the barrier for them to come in. So it is not fully G&G like strata property, unless ALL residents agreed to sign DMC as a formal Contract for everyone to follow same rule, including paying management fee compulsory, then after approve by Majlis Bandaraya, residents can form Joint Management Board.
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Yup it is. For the latter one you mentioned, if its formed, Majilis Perbandaran will no longer take care of all the matter inside the taman already, including the maintenance of playground/public facilities, road paving, gardening, garbage collection. Thats why this kind of situation puts the old taman in a very awkward position where you can form but people will need to fork out more maintenance fees, which the free riders already won't want to even if its already cheaper at the current rate, and those who are paying might have a lesser will to pay because there is definitely a price hike for the maintenance fees, most probably a >50% due to all kinds of maintenance lump inside.
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Yup it is. For the latter one you mentioned, if its formed, Majilis Perbandaran will no longer take care of all the matter inside the taman already, including the maintenance of playground/public facilities, road paving, gardening, garbage collection. Thats why this kind of situation puts the old taman in a very awkward position where you can form but people will need to fork out more maintenance fees, which the free riders already won't want to even if its already cheaper at the current rate, and those who are paying might have a lesser will to pay because there is definitely a price hike for the maintenance fees, most probably a >50% due to all kinds of maintenance lump inside.
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I think this is not good.

As the resident also pay cukai harta to majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah


No cheaper cukai harta after majlis majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah no more take care all matter inside?
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I think this is not good.

As the resident also pay cukai harta to majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah
No cheaper cukai harta after majlis majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah  no more take care all matter inside?
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I'm not sure on this cuz I didn't go that deep onto the discussion with the authorities, but I believe still needs to pay. Tak kan all the strata condos no need to pay the cukai harta kan? tongue.gif
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I think this is not good.

As the resident also pay cukai harta to majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah
No cheaper cukai harta after majlis majlis bandaraya/perbandaran/daerah  no more take care all matter inside?
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Not sure abt how it is managed in JB, but in majestic we still need to pay cukai tanah and cukai tafsiran.
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Not sure abt how it is managed in JB, but in majestic we still need to pay cukai tanah and cukai tafsiran.
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Cukai harta no?
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Cukai harta no?
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I think cukai tafsiran is same with the cukai harta, maybe in JB it is called cukai harta, based on the value given by Bandaraya to calculate the amount to be paid to them.

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Not sure abt how it is managed in JB, but in majestic we still need to pay cukai tanah and cukai tafsiran.
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Satu Malaysia all states same same, we need to pay 1)cukai tanah to pej tanah 2)cukai pintu to town council (as in cukai tafsiran you mentioned) regardless of individual or strata title

Lately, TC undertaking prop valuation

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 12 2024, 09:03 AM)
Satu Malaysia all state same same, we need to pay 1)cukai tanah to pej tanah 2)cukai pintu to town council (as in cukai tafsiran you mentioned) regardless of individual or strata title

Lately, TC undertaking prop valuation
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Yup, no way to escape. Plus monthly maintenance and sinking fund.

And my maintenance fee is almost 4 times increased compare to my old house security fee, and cukai tafsiran also become double due to higher value, heard might be raised again in next year. Don't know what basis Bandaraya used to give that value, if it can be used as value for selling to new buyer then I can earn alot, lol

So strata confirmed cost more than individual title no doubt.

May I know what is TC?

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Yup, no way to escape. Plus monthly maintenance and sinking fund.

And my maintenance fee is almost 4 times increased compare to my old house security fee, and cukai tafsiran also become double due to higher value, heard might be raised again in next year. Don't know what basis Bandaraya used to give that value, if it can be used as value for selling to new buyer then I can earn alot, lol

So strata confirmed cost more than individual title no doubt.

May I know what is TC?
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TC, town council as in majlis perbandaraan/ bandaraya (as you mentioned in your post)
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https://www.tanahsutera.com/the-seed-project-page-1-6.aspx
Sutera one is the seed.
Gated and guarded.
Condo but seeems sales no good.quite strange actually
The staircase at behind one.
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do u know whats the price range for the condo at the seed?
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Yup, no way to escape. Plus monthly maintenance and sinking fund.

And my maintenance fee is almost 4 times increased compare to my old house security fee, and cukai tafsiran also become double due to higher value, heard might be raised again in next year. Don't know what basis Bandaraya used to give that value, if it can be used as value for selling to new buyer then I can earn alot, lol

So strata confirmed cost more than individual title no doubt.

May I know what is TC?
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What was your initial and current maintenance fee? Curious on the increment
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do u know whats the price range for the condo at the seed?
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Price range for subsale should be 550k-600k for the 1259 ft2 unit.


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I believe this video capture well done on the eco spring surrounding. Main reason was the youtuber live there, so got lot time to exploring and taking photo/video.
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What was your initial and current maintenance fee? Curious on the increment
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Security fee for old house was only RM60 per mth.

Now is abt RM195 per mth including sinking fund.

Cukai tafsiran is abt 400++ compare to 180 paid for old house

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Can we know the house is individual title or strata title from geran?
"The English term for **公共契约** is 'Deed of Mutual Covenant,' abbreviated as DMC. This is an agreement signed by the developer and the first property owner together when signing the Sale and Purchase Agreement.

This agreement covers all rules for residence and use, clearly outlining the rights, responsibilities, and obligations of the property owner. It also specifies various actions that owners can or cannot undertake within the stratified building.

When the initial property owner transfers the property to a new owner, some developers may require the new owner to sign a new DMC to ensure that all owners comply with the residential rules."
All strata title owner must sign this Deed of Mutual Covenant?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...mibextid=Nif5oz

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My title got show hakmilik strata

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My title got  show hakmilik strata

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Your geran?
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My title got  show hakmilik strata

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My old geran don't have this le. Maybe after bank discharged will get this new one

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Your geran?
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Yes, lawyer has just completed MOT, and cc this photocopy to me for record.
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My old geran don't have this le. Maybe after bank discharged will get this new one
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No oh, my one is new house and just done the MOT for strata title. Need another 30 years later only can discharge, hahahaha.

Your one is in Selangor also?
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No oh, my one is new house and just done the MOT for strata title. Need another 30 years later only can discharge, hahahaha.

Your one is in Selangor also?
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Not Selangor, Eco spring 1st phase
My MOT done long ago. My hakmilik sementara don't have that caption like your photoshoot.

Anyway, my gonna discharge by next year. Let's see the geran

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Not Selangor, Eco spring 1st phase
My MOT done long ago. My geran don't have that caption like your photoshoot.

Anyway, my gonna discharge by next year. Let's see
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I see, ya, heard different state land office will have different format on their title.

Maybe in Johor they don't put that wording on title.
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I see, ya, heard different state land office will have different format on their title.

Maybe in Johor they don't put that wording on title.
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I think so. Like my another individual title, johor too (bought before this eco), the wording is also worded 'Hakmilik Sementara', years later when the bank lawyer do loan discharge, i get a new piece with wording 'Geran'

In Sel also individual title, the title is worded 'geran' like yours

I think not only due to state to state variation, probably also due to timing and land incumbrance factor. Idk for sure

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