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post May 29 2024, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 29 2024, 12:04 AM)
where is the pipe joint leak? It is from the hot water outlet joint?

Exactly at where?
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Actually is water tank leak..
Internal leak

I saw before last time...

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post May 29 2024, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 29 2024, 12:00 AM)
No need. Pana push start just press the big button to on/off water and heater together gether.
Water valve is there but hardly touch. TBH, water valve-sahaja (no push start) is B40 model.
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See the piping go huru hara all over also likely overtightened AF and cracked the inlet plastic connector of the WH whistling.gif
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The pipe is not huru hara (messy), but the wiring is huru hara.

I've used this water heater for 3 months without any issues. After 3 months, it started to have a small leak.

Now is big leak.

If the nut is overtightened, it would cause an external leak but not an internal leak.

How can the nut below the steel pipe affect the internal water tank?

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post May 29 2024, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 29 2024, 12:08 AM)
My house in Malaysia also uses a Panasonic water heater, and we've had it for 9 years already.

However, I need to close the volume switch every time after pressing the big button on the Panasonic water heater.

If I don't do this, water keeps coming out even after pressing the big button.
The same thing happens when I want to take a bath.

If I don't open the water volume switch and only press the big button of panasonic water heater, no water will supply to the water heater, and it will make a noisy sound due to high pressure.
Why like that?
This Joven water heater is at singapore house.
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Need to replace the washer thing on the actuator so that it closes fully when u toggle the on off push start. My National had the same issue after 30 years.
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post May 29 2024, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 11:55 PM)
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I think Panasonic brand water heaters have the valve you mentioned.

But kesian Joven brand do not have the valve.

Does this valve reduce the pressure from the main water supply pipe of the water company?

Some water companies supply water to our house pipes at too high a pressure.
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The part you circled should be the flow switch which switches on the power to the heater and cuts off the power when there's no water flow.

The high supply water pressure should not be an issue because you can regulate the flow (hence the pressure) by using the inlet valve.

As I said, if you installed a stop valve at the outlet (hot water side), you risk over pressuring the heater coil.
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post May 29 2024, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 29 2024, 12:14 AM)
The pipe is not huru hara (messy), but the wiring is huru hara.

I've used this water heater for 3 months without any issues. After 3 months, it started to have a small leak.

Now is big leak.

If the nut is overtightened, it would cause an external leak but not an internal leak.

How can the nut below the steel pipe affect the internal water tank?
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The piping nut is using compression fitting. By right it’s supposed to use hand tight only not twist until the tank break. If using flexihose the procedure is turn using hand and add a 1/4 turn with spinner and stop. It is sealed by the washer French kiss NOT by the screw thread. The plastic tank is not supposed to use compression fitting with the olive ring inside. It will break.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 29 2024, 12:14 AM)
The pipe is not huru hara (messy), but the wiring is huru hara.

I've used this water heater for 3 months without any issues. After 3 months, it started to have a small leak.

Now is big leak.

If the nut is overtightened, it would cause an external leak but not an internal leak.

How can the nut below the steel pipe affect the internal water tank?
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That piping is meant to be for a storage water heater.
Hence the 3 pipes in the wall.
1 for cold water in.
1 for hot water out
1 for excess water due to the pressure valve.

Installing an instant water heater with no elcb instead of a storage water heater is suicide.

Switch this out for a proper storage water heater. You can get the same brand too if you like.
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post May 29 2024, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 29 2024, 12:22 AM)
That piping is meant to be for a storage water heater.
Hence the 3 pipes in the wall.
1 for cold water in.
1 for hot water out
1 for excess water due to the pressure valve.

Installing an instant water heater with no elcb instead of a storage water heater is suicide.

Switch this out for a proper storage water heater. You can get the same brand too if you like.
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Actually, this Joven brand water heater has an safety features like built in ELCB.


The other day, a water leak caused a power trip because the wire inside the water heater is connected to the ground wire.

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post May 29 2024, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 29 2024, 12:17 AM)
The piping nut is using compression fitting. By right it’s supposed to use hand tight only not twist until the tank break. If using flexihose the procedure is turn using hand and add a 1/4 turn with spinner and stop. It is sealed by the washer French kiss NOT by the screw thread. The plastic tank is not supposed to use compression fitting with the olive ring inside. It will break.
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post May 29 2024, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 28 2024, 11:10 PM)
Why is the gap so huge right after the elbow connector?

Why are the so many unnecessary connectors in between?

Why steel pipe and no fastener or clip holding in between joints?
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Between the hot and cold pipes, there is a drain off pipe in the middle if you want to use other type of water heater.

Water heater with a big water tank outside...


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Please look at all the photos I posted again.


What type of fastener did you mention? I don't understand.

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post May 29 2024, 12:35 AM

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somehow i dont feel safe with metal pipes. If there are electrical leak from the heater to the metal pipe and accidentally touched it....
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post May 29 2024, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(wchinwai @ May 29 2024, 12:35 AM)
somehow i dont feel safe with metal pipes. If there are electrical leak from the heater to the metal pipe and accidentally touched it....
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The ELCB already cuts off all the house power if there is any electric leak.
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post May 29 2024, 12:49 AM

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Hi Ts,

There is question , why u install instant heater instead of storage water heater ? Coz the piping not design for instant heater. Normally instant heater outlet straight to shower head right.

As some other mention, hot water outlet shouldn’t be any valve.

Hot water outlet piping to your shower head was indirectly as valve when u on/off water your shower head.





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post May 29 2024, 01:36 AM

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Joven brand water heater come without built-in ELCB
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post May 29 2024, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(tmd @ May 29 2024, 01:36 AM)
Joven brand water heater come without built-in ELCB
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But still safe to use?

Actually, this Joven brand water heater has an safety features like built in ELCB.


The other day, a water leak caused a power trip because the wire inside the water heater is connected to the ground wire



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post May 29 2024, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(niceit198 @ May 29 2024, 12:49 AM)
Hi Ts,

There is question , why u install instant heater instead of storage water heater ?  Coz the piping not design for instant heater. Normally instant heater outlet straight to shower head right.

As some other mention, hot water outlet shouldn’t be any valve.

The hot water outlet piping to your shower head is indirectly controlled by a valve when you turn the water on or off for your shower head.


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The hot water outlet piping to your shower head is indirectly controlled by a valve when you turn the water on or off for your shower head.


This cause my water heater leak?

This should be built by government or houseowner.

But now valve is on cold water pipe but not hot water pipe.

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post May 29 2024, 05:04 AM

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How to destroy your house 101.
Ts.

Get a proper technician.
U having metal pipes also fail d.

Nowadays got label that the outlets near the heater should not be metal...
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post May 29 2024, 05:28 AM

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Rip ts.
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post May 29 2024, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(shadowglow @ May 29 2024, 05:04 AM)
How to destroy your house 101.
Ts.

Get a proper technician.
U having metal pipes also fail d.

Nowadays got label that the outlets near the heater should not be metal...
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Later technician will come.


But he is not a professional one


This is rent house.

Houseowner want to save money
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post May 29 2024, 06:18 AM

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Should pasang this kind of heater...

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post May 29 2024, 07:19 AM

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My house instant water heater only straight to shower head, why got so many pipes one lol

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