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post May 28 2024, 11:02 PM

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TS tryna kill himself it seems
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 09:59 PM)
May I know do this house lack 1 bypass piping to hot or cold water pipe?
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Joven brand
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Why is the gap so huge right after the elbow connector?

Why are the so many unnecessary connectors in between?

Why steel pipe and no fastener or clip holding in between joints?
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post May 28 2024, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 10:48 PM)
Is this joven brand too lousy?

I plan to change to panasonic brand
In 7 months,2 units spoiled.
https://www.bestdenki.com.sg/1004529-panaso...-dh-3ns1sw.html
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topkek, 7 months, 2units spoilt and can ask if it's lousy

of course it is. when the thread started ktards already warned you about the absence of elcb in the water heater.
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post May 28 2024, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 10:04 PM)
It is because safety.
The shower head should not spray water accidentally onto the water heater's outer surface.

Is your house's water heater installed very low?
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my water heater installed slightly above head level lor, hardly kena water when mandi, unless naughty son play n splash......no where so near the ceiling like TS lor.......either TS too tall or his ceiling too low.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 10:48 PM)
Is this joven brand too lousy?

I plan to change to panasonic brand
In 7 months,2 units spoiled.
https://www.bestdenki.com.sg/1004529-panaso...-dh-3ns1sw.html
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last time I used joven too........ok lar, mine last 6 years then rosak.
If your case 7 months rosak 2 unit, you better check your electrical wire lor. Don't play play
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post May 28 2024, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 28 2024, 10:55 PM)
I think the hot/cold pipings are for storage heater. Apasal install instant heater pulak?

Also, the shut off valve stops the water inlet or water outlet? If water outlet, it's dangerous as instant heaters iinm don't have pressure relief valve.
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An instant water heater can use both hot and cold pipes right?

Is an internal heater tank a good option for this type of water tank material?

Should be metal but not plastic right?

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post May 28 2024, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(geelim77 @ May 28 2024, 11:28 PM)
last time I used joven too........ok lar, mine last 6 years then rosak.
If your case 7 months rosak 2 unit, you better check your electrical wire lor. Don't play play
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Is an internal heater tank a good option for this type of water tank material?

Should be metal but not plastic right?


Your Joven also use plastic water tank?

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post May 28 2024, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Jan 6 2024, 02:28 PM)
Is the water heater missing ECB? Also why the boiler container is plastic.. Macam not design with safety in mind.
Also the connection of the water pipe source is terbalik.
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Panasonic brand water heater water container is steel.

But joven brand is plastic....


Thats why 7 months spoiled 2 units?

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: May 28 2024, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 11:38 PM)
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An instant water heater can use both hot and cold pipes right?

Is an internal heater tank a good option for this type of water tank material?

Should be metal but not plastic right?
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Instant water heaters only have one cold water inlet pipe. You regulate the water temperature by toggling the set temperature switch/knob.

The isolation valve is located at the inlet of the heater. The outlet of heater is not supposed to have any valve to avoid over pressuring the heater and cause internal leakage.

Also, you're not supposed to use steel hose or pipe to connect to the heater to reduce risk of electrocution.
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Jan 6 2024, 02:28 PM)
Is the water heater missing ECB? Also why the boiler container is plastic.. Macam not design with safety in mind.
Also the connection of the water pipe source is terbalik.
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The heating coils are not supposed to be subjected to any pressure by having the water stop valve at the inlet and no valve at the outlet.
I highly suspect TS' connected his instant heater the way storage heaters are connected. The difference between them is storage heaters have pressure relief valve and instant heaters don't (or I've yet to see any). So any overpressure in instant heaters will cause internal leakage as in TS' case.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 10:48 PM)
Is this joven brand too lousy?

I plan to change to panasonic brand
In 7 months,2 units spoiled.
https://www.bestdenki.com.sg/1004529-panaso...-dh-3ns1sw.html
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There is no different in what model.

Tell me more detail where is the exact the leak.

I probably can understand why it leak.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 6 2024, 01:17 PM)
This is technician install wor

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Need a registered (with BCA) electrician not just any joker with a pair of pliers
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 28 2024, 11:48 PM)
The heating coils are not supposed to be subjected to any pressure by having the water stop valve at the inlet and no valve at the outlet.
I highly suspect TS' connected his instant heater the way storage heaters are connected. The difference between them is storage heaters have pressure relief valve and instant heaters don't (or I've yet to see any). So any overpressure in instant heaters will cause internal leakage as in TS' case.
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I think Panasonic brand water heaters have the valve you mentioned.

But kesian Joven brand do not have the valve.

Does this valve reduce the pressure from the main water supply pipe of the water company?

Some water companies supply water to our house pipes at too high a pressure.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: May 28 2024, 11:56 PM
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post May 28 2024, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 28 2024, 11:52 PM)
There is no different in what model.

Tell me more detail where is the exact the leak.

I probably can understand why it leak.
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post May 28 2024, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 11:41 PM)
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Is an internal heater tank a good option for this type of water tank material?

Should be metal but not plastic right?
Your Joven also use plastic water tank?
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last time my joven used plastic tank.
currently using Panasonic, with copper tank n piping.

Of cos copper better n last longer lor.

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post May 28 2024, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 28 2024, 11:48 PM)
The heating coils are not supposed to be subjected to any pressure by having the water stop valve at the inlet and no valve at the outlet.
I highly suspect TS' connected his instant heater the way storage heaters are connected. The difference between them is storage heaters have pressure relief valve and instant heaters don't (or I've yet to see any). So any overpressure in instant heaters will cause internal leakage as in TS' case.
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But normal what brand water heater also have this valve to control water volume right?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 11:59 PM)
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But normal what brand water heater also have this valve to control water volume right?
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No need. Pana push start just press the big button to on/off water and heater together gether.
Water valve is there but hardly touch. TBH, water valve-sahaja (no push start) is B40 model.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 6 2024, 02:36 PM)
no,.. this the real reason TS is attempting suicide,..

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See the piping go huru hara all over also likely overtightened AF and cracked the inlet plastic connector of the WH whistling.gif

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 11:57 PM)
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where is the pipe joint leak? It is from the hot water outlet joint?

Exactly at where?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 28 2024, 11:55 PM)
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I think Panasonic brand water heaters have the valve you mentioned.

But kesian Joven brand do not have the valve.

Does this valve reduce the pressure from the main water supply pipe of the water company?

Some water companies supply water to our house pipes at too high a pressure.
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It controls water VOLUME not PRESSURE.
If there is a problem with extreme pressure, make a report on LifeSG

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post May 29 2024, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 29 2024, 12:00 AM)
No need. Pana push start just press the big button to on/off water and heater together gether.
Water valve is there but hardly touch. TBH, water valve-sahaja (no push start) is B40 model.
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See the piping go huru hara all over also likely overtightened AF and cracked the inlet plastic connector of the WH whistling.gif
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My house in Malaysia also uses a Panasonic water heater, and we've had it for 9 years already.

However, I need to close the volume switch every time after pressing the big button on the Panasonic water heater.

If I don't do this, water keeps coming out even after pressing the big button.


The same thing happens when I want to take a bath.

If I don't open the water volume switch and only press the big button of panasonic water heater, no water will supply to the water heater, and it will make a noisy sound due to high pressure.



Why like that?


This Joven water heater is at singapore house.

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