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 ECRL is useful? , money well spent project?

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atreyuangel
post Dec 12 2023, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ Dec 12 2023, 03:14 PM)
It was tout, but perhaps the train then is not the same as what we're building now. The current train planned is 160KM/h.

Anyway, I know for a fact if 1 hour ride for 310km, that means the train must be traveling at an average speed of 310KM/h. This is not up to debate, this is actual mathematics lol. I'm sure you can acknowledge this. Either you got the distance wrong, or the train speed has changed from original plan.

As far as I know, ECRL isn't using high-speed railway (bullet train).

Even here you can see the entire ECRL track (600KM) will take 4 hours - https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/01/...u-kl-four-hours. So I genuinely have no idea where you get the number 300km (half the track) will take only one hour. You might have remembered wrongly sorry.
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Maybe, but what I said is what I heard during the 2017 ECRL exhibition
nevertheless from Kuantan to Melawati with approx of 2 hours is still better then driving 2 hours
plus from my home I can actually see the ECRL pllars and tracks, hopefully the sound will be bearable

QUOTE(joe_star @ Dec 12 2023, 04:06 PM)
https://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnists/2...g-east-and-west

From 2017, even here it's mentioned travel time is cut to 4 hours.

Now assume the full line is 665km, divide by 4 is average speed of 160km/h.

So your 40 min from KL to Kuantan is definitely sembang kencang, only possible if the line is dedicated for passenger and fully upgraded to 300kmh which was not even in original scope and doesn't work with the main intention which is freight ops. Goods trains don't run on hsr tracks.

Anyway I fully support ECRL and believe it should not have been cut down in scope, again not for passenger travel but for supporting high density freight ops so that we can take away business from SG port
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2017 4 hours from Tok Bali kat Gombak no?
640KM with 4 hours 20 min for new line
640 is KB to Klang Port
not sure for ITT Gombak is the same distance

This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Dec 12 2023, 04:50 PM
Ttbatdtptsm
post Dec 12 2023, 04:46 PM

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Pahang state gov already hopes federal extended Bentong to Raub to lipis …. Those towns by the hill side are so nice … i got land there , hope can build chalet or resort next to the rivers
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post Dec 12 2023, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 12 2023, 07:45 AM)
Awat tengik ngat pepagi ni
In 2017 during the ECRL exhibition it was stated that express KL-Kuantan is 40 mins to 60mins

Sapa suh korang undi kerajaan "review semula projek MEGA" whistling.gif

Btw 2nd phase ECRL Kuantan-JB is around 300+km pun Sejam jugak sehala
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speaking of jb, i just learnt that there are no direct train from KL to JB
atreyuangel
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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ Dec 12 2023, 04:46 PM)
Pahang state gov already hopes federal extended Bentong to Raub to lipis …. Those towns by the hill side are so nice … i got land there , hope can build chalet or resort next to the rivers
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Hopefully
ni projek aerotrain Kuantan pun senyap je ni
yhtan
post Dec 12 2023, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Dec 12 2023, 04:50 PM)
speaking of jb, i just learnt that there are no direct train from KL to JB
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Wait the Gemas-JB double track finish then it will have, apparently it was delay to year 2025.
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post Dec 12 2023, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Dec 12 2023, 04:50 PM)
speaking of jb, i just learnt that there are no direct train from KL to JB
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Old track got, now ETS double tracking electrified up to Gemas. From Gemas to JB ETS is ready soon then will be direct ETS.
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post Dec 12 2023, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Dec 12 2023, 04:54 PM)
Old track got, now ETS double tracking electrified up to Gemas. From Gemas to JB ETS is ready soon then will be direct ETS.
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No direct train but can take ETS up to gemas then change to diesel intercity, but not recommended unless you have so much free time and want to experience the trip

Last time I tried catching a train in gemas but the intercity coming from Kelantan was delayed by 6 hours. End up take bus to JB
machomama
post Dec 12 2023, 07:12 PM

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yup
one only has a year or so more to enjoy riding the diesel locos down south before it's electrified

i find the seats in the older generation coaches much much more comfier & plush (memang class) comparatively to the current ETS line, gold/business class lain cerita.......that one you pay through ur nose
comparing standard (diesel loco) to standard (ETS)

plus it's a DIESEL Loco!
dengar bunyi je stim
u won't get this unless hang pi pantai timur on the other ktm line

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post Dec 12 2023, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(machomama @ Dec 12 2023, 07:12 PM)
yup
one only has a year or so more to enjoy riding the diesel locos down south before it's electrified

i find the seats in the older generation coaches much much more comfier & plush (memang class) comparatively to the current ETS line, gold/business class lain cerita.......that one you pay through ur nose
comparing standard (diesel loco) to standard (ETS)

plus it's a DIESEL Loco!
dengar bunyi je stim
u won't get this unless hang pi pantai timur on the other ktm line
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Pantai Timur also mostly converted to Diesel EMU already, it's like komuter train but on diesel.

They should retain electric loco hauled service with sleeper especially for direct train from Padang besar to JB like express rakyat last time

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