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 ECRL is useful? , money well spent project?

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post Dec 12 2023, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 12 2023, 12:47 AM)
Obviously! Will reduce jam as people can balik kelate pakai train not menyemak atas jalan Raya.
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Ecrl main purpose is not passenger Transport but as land bridge so that PRC can bypass choke point of SG

For us it's a benefit because we gain trade and commerce by usage of land bridge between Kuantan port and port klang
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post Dec 12 2023, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 12 2023, 01:16 AM)
Kuantan to KL in 40 minutes

from my home in Kuantan to My home in Melawati
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Impossible, not even if they run non stop service from kl to Kuantan
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post Dec 12 2023, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 12 2023, 07:45 AM)
Awat tengik ngat pepagi ni
In 2017 during the ECRL exhibition it was stated that express KL-Kuantan is 40 mins to 60mins

Sapa suh korang undi kerajaan "review semula projek MEGA" whistling.gif

Btw 2nd phase ECRL Kuantan-JB is around 300+km pun Sejam jugak sehala
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https://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnists/2...g-east-and-west

From 2017, even here it's mentioned travel time is cut to 4 hours.

Now assume the full line is 665km, divide by 4 is average speed of 160km/h.

So your 40 min from KL to Kuantan is definitely sembang kencang, only possible if the line is dedicated for passenger and fully upgraded to 300kmh which was not even in original scope and doesn't work with the main intention which is freight ops. Goods trains don't run on hsr tracks.

Anyway I fully support ECRL and believe it should not have been cut down in scope, again not for passenger travel but for supporting high density freight ops so that we can take away business from SG port
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post Dec 12 2023, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Dec 12 2023, 02:13 PM)
It literally is already announced 160km/h top speed. All the while announce 160km/h. You are the one ignorant.
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The option to upgrade to 300kmh was available, given it's standard gauge track, again that's in theory only

In practice no one is going to do that on a line that is shared with freight. The tolerances necessary for a HSR will mean enormous costs to maintain the track if freight trains also run on them as well.

Maybe PRC or West can sustain such costs, we definitely can't afford to
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post Dec 12 2023, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Dec 12 2023, 04:54 PM)
Old track got, now ETS double tracking electrified up to Gemas. From Gemas to JB ETS is ready soon then will be direct ETS.
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No direct train but can take ETS up to gemas then change to diesel intercity, but not recommended unless you have so much free time and want to experience the trip

Last time I tried catching a train in gemas but the intercity coming from Kelantan was delayed by 6 hours. End up take bus to JB
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post Dec 12 2023, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(machomama @ Dec 12 2023, 07:12 PM)
yup
one only has a year or so more to enjoy riding the diesel locos down south before it's electrified

i find the seats in the older generation coaches much much more comfier & plush (memang class) comparatively to the current ETS line, gold/business class lain cerita.......that one you pay through ur nose
comparing standard (diesel loco) to standard (ETS)

plus it's a DIESEL Loco!
dengar bunyi je stim
u won't get this unless hang pi pantai timur on the other ktm line
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Pantai Timur also mostly converted to Diesel EMU already, it's like komuter train but on diesel.

They should retain electric loco hauled service with sleeper especially for direct train from Padang besar to JB like express rakyat last time

 

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