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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadband Thread V42, READ 1ST PAGE FOR RELEVANT WIFI INFO!

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blacktubi
post Jan 20 2024, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jan 19 2024, 03:08 PM)
I also don't quite get it, on phone it will never achieve more than 250mbps, understandable due to Wifi limitations.

But when plug in with ethernet to wireless mesh node, can achieve 350mbps depending on server and timing location.
Is it because when plug in with ethernet, the mesh will use both of it bands to pull in the 2.4ghz and 5ghz??? I still dont understand how the mesh really operates fully yet, but whatever it is, works as intended.

But hey, I'm suprised that the mesh router still can pull in for the price I paid, which I think justifies it and a simple mesh is not cheap nowadays.
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When you use Ethernet connect to mesh node, you are not affect by the 50% Wi-Fi capacity issue.

In layman terms

If your phone connect to mesh node wirelessly, 50% airtime used for your phone, another 50% airtime used for the mesh node to connect to upstream main node. Hence, resulted in the half capacity issue on dual band mesh WiFi.

But a lot people got it wrong, it's not halving the Internet speed. It's halving the capacity. Hence if you have a AX6000 dual-band mesh, you can still get 500Mbps on the mesh node over Wi-Fi easily.

Oh ya, all TP-Link mesh uses multi-band backhaul. They no longer use dedicated backhaul. Got pros and cons for this.
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post Jan 20 2024, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 20 2024, 09:11 PM)
then tri-band save the troubles to identify the right model of dual-band mesh to buy to get the max speed.
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Just buy the highest AX or BE number you can afford.

An AX6000 dual band mesh will outperform an AX3600 tri-band mesh if both of them are of decent quality.
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post Jan 20 2024, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 20 2024, 09:16 PM)
ic. but price wise AX6000 will be much much more ex rite? if the max speed is about the same that can be achieve by both, of course one can consider go for the lower capacity tri-band mesh as well.
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Dual-Band AX6000 will achieve much higher speed than Tri-Band AX3600.


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post Jan 21 2024, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 20 2024, 09:18 PM)
what about interferrence? since there are two 5GHz radio way on tri-band for signals to pass to and fro.
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Most triband system will use two different 5GHz band for each radio

36-48 low band UNII-1
149-165 high band UNII-3

Hence, co channel interference or adjacent channel interference is not even possible.

QUOTE(Omochao @ Jan 20 2024, 11:03 PM)
Thanks for the simple and clear explanation, adds value to self knowledge and helps if in the future getting upgrade for hardwares . Rather than self centered ego boosting one line replies, still a relief to see someone still around who is willing to share.

By the way, in another words ,as the bandwidth speed from ISP goes higher , the current ax1800 will also struggle to dish out close to subscribe speed right , even through ethernet connected to a wireless node?

I won't dare say this is truly a TP-Link device, but at least I do know it has WiFi6 tech running in it.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jan 20 2024, 11:07 PM)
by that , is safe to assume that a thrash dual-band mesh with ax rating 1800 can outperform ac rated tri band?
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Yes as eventually you’ll be limited to the capacity of AX1800.

The theoretical capacity is 1775Mbps, after signal drop and other overhead, you’ll be looking at around 266Mbps max speed over WiFi (15%) and around 532Mbps if desktop connected via wired to mesh node (30%). Main node and mesh node is on wireless backhaul.

That’s why higher specs mesh system exist. It’s mainly to address the performance when using wireless backhaul and WiFi devices connected to mesh node.

As for your last question, it’ll still depends on capacity. I believe tri band AC systems are at least AC2200 and they have a bigger capacity hence it’ll outperform AX1800.

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post Jan 25 2024, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jan 25 2024, 11:37 AM)
hi..

my current plan is unifi 800Mbps

i have ROG Gt-AX6000 (flashed to merlin), but when i use iphone 11 pro max to test the DL speed via wifi, will only achieve 300-400Mbps most of the time…what is the issue on this ?

when first set up the AX6000, can achieve 690Mbps via wifi

note: tested via asus router page shows 800+Mbps
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Use fast.com and change your minimum test duration to 30 seconds and try again. Make sure you are near to the router.

Depending on network condition, Wi-Fi 6 may take some time to ramp up the throughput. On some devices or busy network, you will find that a 10-15 seconds speedtest is not long enough to reach the full speed.

Further explanation:
Wi-Fi 6/6e/7 use longer aggregates for data transmission, which means it can send more data at once before waiting for an acknowledgment (ACK). This approach can improve overall throughput but may introduce some latency in the acknowledgment process. If ACK frames take longer to be received due to longer aggregates, it could theoretically slow down the rate at which TCP congestion control ramps up its throughput.
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post Jan 26 2024, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jan 26 2024, 12:14 AM)
I love fast.com. I can get 1.2Gbps on my Unifi 800Mbps on my PC with 1Gbps ethernet.
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Fast.com default mode can be inaccurate.

Change minimum test to 30 seconds and above for best accuracy.
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post Mar 10 2024, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Mar 10 2024, 03:34 PM)
Did unifi changed something on their end? my asus merlin router was fine for years, but now I get inconsistent speed, had to switch to their provided router to get my full subscribed speed and had to reconfigure my home devices again
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Probably your ASUS router needed a reset.

ASUSWRT / Tomato based firmwares are known for this after a while.
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post Mar 10 2024, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Mar 10 2024, 06:02 PM)
as in hard reset? not reboot?
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Yup, hard reset to wipe NVRAM.

If your Merlin version is older, try updating as well.

https://www.asus.com/my/support/faq/1039074/
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post May 8 2024, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(ahlong @ May 8 2024, 07:14 AM)
Fiber cable (outside) from DP to house putus yesterday.. Monkeys issue.. Change the cable free or need to pay? Got someone with the same issue i think but forgot which Version of thread..
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post May 10 2024, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(NagaK @ May 10 2024, 03:50 PM)
New Router as per technician from this week they start getting this new unit. Sadly I'm stick with my old Fiberhome ONU and Tp link router so I can't test the performance of it
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Quality seems better, notice there's a chunk of heatsink inside
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post May 15 2024, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ May 15 2024, 06:24 PM)
i ask my friend in TM, maybe this is SME deal.. the time has come for SME customer, aka biz package... offer for loyal customer
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Maxis can offer 1Gbps for RM159 provided if you use Maxis postpaid RM60 and above

Won't be surprise if TM did something similar to counter offer
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post May 17 2024, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ May 17 2024, 03:42 PM)
just applied to port into this plan. already have maxis fibre but barely 1 month with digi.
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How's the network quality of CelcomDiGi?

Better or worst than TM?
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post May 19 2024, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 19 2024, 09:43 PM)
Thats the problem which I personally want to solve for. No point using the hardware provided by the ISP, especially brands like D-Link which has a very bad track record in terms of security.

Got this from TM Unifi Members facebook page. According to the OP, 100 to 800Mbps users will receive this.
Edit: Only for new subscribers
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Good luck to those getting this. WiFi on the D-Link DIR-X3060Z is better.

CPU should be the same from Dual-Core 1GHz ARM A9 from ZXIC.
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post May 20 2024, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Ashren @ May 19 2024, 11:06 PM)
The equipment they supply getting worse... smh. Using Mediatek MT7976DN.

https://en.skyworthdigital.com/products-detail/ProId/79.html
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Mediatek MT7916AN + MT7976DN to be exact.

Unifi FiberHome SR1041F and D-Link DIR-X3060Z uses the same WiFi combo with actually okayish performance.

Somehow WiFi on this latest model is worst. Feel free to speculate why.

Tips: MT7916AN is a 2T3R design.
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post May 21 2024, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(RViN @ May 21 2024, 07:27 PM)
This is the behaviour I'm seeing with the black ONR. I left it for longer today and the speed dropped further, not only was it below 300mbps it was now below 100mbps. After restarting the modem back to gigabit.

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I wasn't diligent about running the speed tests immediately before and after most of the time that's why you see the timing is not consistent. But its basically consistent.

I've setup a timer on the power socket powering the modem to turn it on and off every 4am, then I'll monitor and see if this still happens biggrin.gif

Not sure if I should complain/feedback to TM about this, might end up in a worse position lol
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post May 27 2024, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(ultra.m.a.n @ May 27 2024, 10:25 AM)
Guys,

What is the latest package from unifi?
Currently i am on SWU 2.0 with 300mbps at RM136.75 permonth…
Plan to visit tm net later if got cheaper plan offer from them

Thanks
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SWU 4.0 offering free 6 months but must get Uni5G @ RM39 for at least 3 months.

RM129 for 300Mbps, after SST should be same price as yours.

Free new WiFi 6 router, either D-Link or new Skyworth all in one unit.
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post Jun 3 2024, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Jun 3 2024, 01:58 AM)
TM lost its peering with Cloudflare.
If I remember correctly, TM used to peer with Cloudflare. Now all traffic to Cloudflare goes to Telstra.
Checking AS4788 in bgpview.io confirms they no longer peer with Cloudflare.
Maxis (AS9534) and Celcom (AS10030) do have peering with Cloudflare.

Looking into Cloudflare's peering policy (https://www.cloudflare.com/peering-policy/), the only clause that can cause this is:
"To suspend, without notice, peering connectivity in the event of a severe quality of service issue such as high latency, packet loss, or jitter pattern is detected and to take appropriate traffic engineering steps to maintain service quality."

I am also having a bad time with AWS right now routing me to Cogent Singapore > AWS India. None of the telco seems to peer with AWS, even though all of them interconnect with MyIX.
Amazon's peering policy (https://aws.amazon.com/peering/policy/) is a lot stricter compared to Cloudflare, like you must connect to at least 2 edge location and your pipe must be at least double the size of your peak traffic.

Both Cloudflare and Amazon did not do RS Peer inside MyIX, which can be verified here:
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/1418
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4224

What this means is that peering must be setup manually. So either TM is lazy or they already maxed out their pipe.
The question then becomes: How hard is it to add a bigger pipe to MyIX? It is right inside KL and the port fees is in Ringgit, not some foreign currency.
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MYIX is located in AIMS and AIMS is partly owned by TIME

TM and TIME don’t get along very well

But I believe the ISPs would prefer to sell more cloud connect service these days

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QUOTE(NagaK @ Jun 10 2024, 01:03 AM)
Wow great which model? Mine TP LINK AX73 Wifi speed top was 950mbps on wifi
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Any routers with Gigabit WAN port will peak at 940Mbps

You need routers with 2.5G WAN port
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QUOTE(abemin @ Jun 10 2024, 11:31 AM)
Do you mind sharing your router specs? is it 2.5Gb WAN port?
Mine peak at 930Mbps.
I have tested both :
- direct connect to combo box 2.5Gb port peak at 930Mbps
- direct connect using old devices (modem+router-tplink-ax73) peak at 930Mbps
Both using cat6 cable.

Should i try the bridge mode or confirm this is on TM end so i need to inform them.

I saw the technician speedtest can get 1Gbps. However after they left, my speedtest won’t go near 1Gbps.
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Your AX73 will peak at 940Mbps as it only comes with Gigabit Ethernet

You need to use Unifi combo box with the 2.5GE port and you need to make sure your computer comes with a 2.5GE port as well

Any Gigabit LAN port is limited at 940Mbps
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QUOTE(abemin @ Jun 10 2024, 02:42 PM)
Yea. The computer part just came to mind. I tested using thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter on my macbook. I think the adapter is limited like you said. Going to buy 2.5GE adapter for my Macbook and looking at TP-LINK AX55 Pro for the router.
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You need a router with dual 2.5G port

Ideally 1 for WAN and at least another for LAN

The AX55 is not suitable

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