if u drive within KL and seldom oustation, Bezza is ok, for long term why?

it;s all about the after sales service and issue. Just go to the service centre Managed directly by P2 and if can avoid the authorize centre.

Pton, if you want comfort, the suspension is better. for some reason p2 use lousy suspension, which makes the ride worse but you might need to be prepared mentally with the not great after sales service which has been shared numeraous time over socmed


but in terms of engine efficiently, Daihatsu engine in P2 is pretty value buy.

This post has been edited by shadowglow: Nov 3 2023, 02:27 PM

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KUALA LUMPUR: Pengambilalihan Sime Darby Bhd ke atas kepentingan Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB) dalam UMW Holdings Bhd (UMW Holdings) berjumlah 61.2 peratus dijangka menjadikan konglomerat terkemuka itu sebagai gergasi automotif baharu tempatan.

Penganalisis Affin Hwang Investment Bank, Afifah Ishak, berkata dengan UMW Holdings sememangnya kukuh menerusi jenama terkemuka seperti Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua Sdn Bhd (PERODUA) dan Toyota, ia dilihat menjadi faktor penting dalam meningkatkan penguasaan pasaran Sime Darby secara ketara dalam industri automotif Malaysia.

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Nov 3 2023, 02:31 PM

Actually if you take grab before, you already know the answer.

If you get Bezza VS you get Saga, which one u feel more relieve? To me Bezza is the least I wish to see especially a trip to KLIA from KL.
1st gen Myvi and Bezza is the least I want to get from grab for long distance drive.

I think many of us here know about it from Grab lah where else hahaha

imagine from kl to klia in bezza

x murah pun, starting ady 40k

Both no for me persona still ok.. but minimum s70

This is assuming Toyota is not direcfly setting up sales office in MY.

For safety, Saga is better

See how frugal you are... I prefer driving exp rather than fuel saving.

Other than fuel saving, don't see Bezza winning anywhere else .

Bezza win in engine reliability, remember its a toyota
parts are cheaper

Saga win in safety, size, comfort but its an old school car
and makan more petrol

Fair enough. However given that you're buying lower bracket cars, Saga's parts are only expensive when compared to Perodua cars, it's still relatively cheap overall. Also value-for-performance it makes sense.

reliable+good after sales= p2
good handling and more stable+ hit/miss after sales=p1

No wonder some engine work like crapped.

even if it has toyota DNA, doesn't mean it's good DNA.
your poop also got your DNA, doesn't make it a good nutritional food.
the whole, "it has toyota DNA, so it's good" mentality is so outdated.
bezza is 1 of the worst car out there cuz it's just so dangerous.

good FC? questionable.
if u driving alone, sure. but if i hav any load, FC goes out the window, cuz that's how it is wit small underpowered engine.
& part of the reason it achieve good FC on paper is the use skinny "fuel saving" tire that has less grip.
couple that wit narrow & tall body, it's a recipe for accident.

it's no coincidence that a lot of accident involves P2.
handling & grip.

What is P1 ?

You want tongkang handling, go buy bezza.

You want fuel guzzler, go buy saga.

Regardless of what you heard about Proton’s VVT engine (not Geely’s)

It is tried and tested over decade of minor improvements starting with Campro

Proton’s engine can last 200,000km easily with fairly minor maintenance (timing belt) and repair (oil leak) while you can expect sensor faulty in Bezza’s around 50,000km

If you decided on Proton Saga, my advise for you is to avoid manual transmission model

This post has been edited by h0riz0nLine: Nov 4 2023, 08:34 PM

Why avoid manual transmission? I thought manual is always more reliable?

Ya why avoid manual transmission?