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angelgemini
post Apr 3 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Genosyde @ Apr 3 2025, 11:51 AM)
Interesting. I never thought of that. I did some reading and this is what I found out.

You are right. If you have a hybrid string inverter coupled with a DC battery, the battery can be used to store excess energy because both the panels and the battery use DC power. Hence, no energy loss i.e. no clipping.

However, if you have a micro inverter system, the DC to AC conversion is done at the panel itself and therefore, the clipping still happens. Usually, you have an AC coupled battery system that converts the energy back to DC before storing in the battery.

Thanks for asking the question. I learned something new today.
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what battery do Huawei inverter support?
worth all the afford for that extra KWH?
angelgemini
post Apr 4 2025, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Apr 4 2025, 05:14 PM)
It’s kinda defeat the purpose though to reconfigure too high.
It is supposed to be a protection mechanism.  Also the production is not so much loss too.
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forget which year already, Malaysia energy commission changed the spec which 256V is normal for grid.
each country different spec/requirement/limit.


angelgemini
post Apr 10 2025, 02:50 PM

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inside aircon room ,the inverter also so hot,
angelgemini
post Apr 12 2025, 03:29 PM

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anyone know the rm4k rebate still available?
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post Apr 28 2025, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Apr 28 2025, 10:03 AM)
Has anyone done any "topup" panels before ?
Currently using normal inverter for rooftop but thinking of putting additional 4 panels with microinverter on carporch awning instead.
Has anyone done this before, small scale top up?
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this is 2 separate system right?
i thinking also can this separate system exclude from the NEM?

purely run for the normal house power usage. hmmmm
like fridge etc.

cause 4 panel = max 2.46kwp only
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Apr 28 2025, 10:58 PM)
It’s not as clear distinction as thst anymore if you add. It is because unlike FIT which has a aeperate meter, these inverter will end up at your db.
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maybe need to calculate if house have the constant 2kwh usage , then only can add on

example items that will on 24/7

1. fridge,
2. Server
3. Light
4. special equipment
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post Apr 29 2025, 05:17 PM

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anyone experience solar generating and sudden no power from TNB, what will happen?
angelgemini
post Apr 29 2025, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(bleeper @ Apr 29 2025, 05:33 PM)
Your house no electricity too and your inverter shut down
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oh, will not able to use solar power?
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post May 2 2025, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ May 2 2025, 08:10 PM)
no, solar power mostly wont go directly to industrial factories or commercial buildings, but because your solar power supplies to your neighbours, therefore, TNB supplies less power to residential area while have more power to supply to industrial areas.
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also TNB can sell all the green energy certificate to commercial and industrial.
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post May 5 2025, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ May 5 2025, 10:17 PM)
A rack with NVIDIA A100 GPU 20 nodes AI cluster can consume 12KW, and it runs 24 x 7. A data center can have hundreds of rack, it easily consumes megawatts of power 24 x 7. Only large scale solar farm can power AI DC.
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in reality when solar panel go into grid, no people can different the current is from solar or other power generation.

when we send solar power to TNB, TMB will record it as green energy,

when they sell energy to commercial, they can sell higher price from the recorded green energy from us.

something like green energy certificate.

so company don't generate any green energy, but buying green energy certificate to proof they using green energy.
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post May 25 2025, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Genosyde @ May 24 2025, 11:29 PM)
Don't you find it strange that if you are willing to pay higher rates for your electricity, you can get a certificate that you can brag to the world that you are doing your part in making the world greener? In reality, you have done absolutely nothing.

That's what my rant is about. Not about the NEM.
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to be fair, they done something, which is pay extra so solar community or farm can expend.

do you thing TNB will so willing to become our powerbank for free?
without those extra money, TNB will not become our powerbank.
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post Aug 2 2025, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(WhiteFlag @ Aug 2 2025, 10:45 PM)
anyone know why my solar system app say it generated 700+ kwh but in tnb bill it say export 500+ kwh only?
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200+ u used during day time, which never reach TNB meter.
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post Aug 3 2025, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Aug 3 2025, 09:48 PM)
Anyone has apply tou tru website??
I just done apply wondering how fast they notified us that application is successful
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so for solar user, new tariff or old tariff better?

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post Aug 4 2025, 07:14 AM

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not sure TNB used which to do calculation, there is few option.

1. Load Profile/Survey billing, which can be minute interval to hourly.

2. EOB TOU with multi Tariff.


option 1 is most accurate but most calculation job on MDMS.

option 2 is very easy, as all calculation done on Meter, but less flexible, any changes in Tariff required to change meter setup.
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post Aug 6 2025, 11:14 PM

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I asked ChatGPT.

Got it. Since you're on **NEM 3.0**, **excess exported energy (in kWh)** rolls over to offset future bills **until 31 December**, after which **the balance resets to zero** — no cash-out.

Given this, let’s refine your ROI calculation with **credit rollover** factored in.

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### 📊 **Summary of Your Year (Aug 2024 – Jul 2025)**

Month Solar Gen Export Import Net Export (Export - Import)
-------- --------- ------ ------ ----------------------------
Aug 2024 793.42 507 402 +105
Sep 2024 789.36 460 324 +136
Oct 2024 707.35 460 324 +136
Nov 2024 526.43 353 475 −122
Dec 2024 646.56 473 400 +73
Jan 2025 533.87 357 325 +32
Feb 2025 645.03 440 356 +84
Mar 2025 660.15 411 451 −40
Apr 2025 786.10 521 420 +101
May 2025 855.49 534 521 +13
Jun 2025 857.91 567 418 +149
Jul 2025 882.16 488 493 −5

### ➕ **Total Net Export Over the Year**:

```plaintext
(+105 + 136 + 136 - 122 + 73 + 32 + 84 - 40 + 101 + 13 + 149 - 5) = **+662 kWh**
```

So, you accumulated **662 kWh** of **excess energy credits** by **December 2024**, and used some during Jan–Jul 2025. But **if not fully consumed by 31 Dec**, it's **wasted** (zeroed out).

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### 💸 **Old Tariff vs. New Tariff – Revised Annual Savings**

Let’s simulate:

Tariff Type Export Rate (RM/kWh) Annual Export Value (Total Exported: 5671 kWh)
------------------ ---------------------- ----------------------------------------------
**Old Flat Rate** RM 0.50 RM **2,835.50**
**New TOU w/ EEI** RM 0.45 (avg adjusted) RM **2,551.95**

* **Difference**: −RM283.55 in annual earnings
* If **some credits expire** at year-end, actual value is even lower.

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### 🧮 ROI Estimation (RM18,000 system)

If you **saved \~RM2,552/year** under new policy (vs RM2,835 before):

* **Payback period** = RM18,000 ÷ RM2,552 = **\~7.05 years**
(assuming you can fully utilize your monthly export + rollover, and tariff policies remain stable)

But if **some export credits reset** unused at year-end (e.g., 200 kWh × RM0.45 = RM90 loss), then:

* **Adjusted savings** ≈ RM2,462/year → ROI = **\~7.3 years**

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### 🔁 Key Tips to Maximize ROI:

1. **Avoid large surplus in Nov–Dec** (as credits expire end of year).
2. **Use high-load appliances during the day** to avoid exporting unnecessarily.
3. **Track your export/import ratio monthly** — optimize to be close to zero net export.
4. **Battery**: Consider if daytime export > night use (especially toward Dec).

Let me know if you want this in Excel or Google Sheets with graphs and projections.

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post Aug 7 2025, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 7 2025, 11:48 AM)
Okay i finally understood.

To keep things ultra simple. we used to pay 22sen/kwh nett import. Now changed to 44sen/kwh. The effect is larger the higher your nett import .

Then those who have surplus getting affected also. Because no more negative billing, so the excess energy cannot be used to offset all the caj (SST, KWBTT, RM10)

This will lead to the situation where.
a) RM600 monthly bill ppl who installed RM400 solar system. Their monthly bill supposed to be RM200 end up become RM400. So ROI doubled.
b) RM600 monthly bill ppl who installed RM600 solar system. Their monthly bill supposed to be RM0. End up have to pay SST+KWBTT+RM10 minimum. So ROI kind of increased about 3%

End of the day. The more your nett import, the more it affects the ROI which is exponential somehow.
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the new billing so so so complicated...
until now i also dunno how to calculate it.
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post Aug 7 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Aug 7 2025, 12:01 PM)
net usage kwh x 44sen + 10 + SST + KWTBB - net EEI
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 7 2025, 12:12 PM)
no need headache.

The only part that u need to see is Import - Export. Then the amount darab 44sen. Then u add SST + KWTBB . ignore all other numbers.

The only difference from old tariff is 22sen/kwh raised to 44sen/kwh for nett import. For simplicity sake. Ignore those tiered tiered bullshit. just average it out. Your ROI not going to change much unless your nett import is above 300kwh
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do this mean, as long as my export > import , then will have zero impact to me?
which currently happen to me.
on the month i have no more balance and have import > export, then my rate is higher ?
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post Aug 10 2025, 05:15 PM

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someone share it at https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5535374&hl=


look like very bad.
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post Aug 17 2025, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Aug 16 2025, 09:17 PM)
If I have 5 micro inverter 2kw each, if one rosak I still have 80% capacity

If I have 1 string inverter 10kw, if rosak then gg

Furthermore micro inverter design lifespan 20 to 25 years

String inverter design lifespan 10 to 15 years
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design life span is 1 thing, but never forget, micro inverter is a the roof top that shine and rain.

plus our weather is 365 extremely hot or crazy rain.
is Micro inverter designed for that?

also many standard is tested in lab test with 25C for the component life.
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post Aug 17 2025, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Aug 17 2025, 05:25 PM)
It is funny that solar inverter sacred of solar isn't it lol
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do you know what is inverter?

what like solar is your solar panel.

Inverter and component inside scare heat.



QUOTE(Kiding @ Aug 17 2025, 07:03 PM)
Depend on the quality of the micro inverter, low quality micro inverter may not be able to withstand >50 degree environment every day, lifespan shorten is expected for those cheap and low quality inverter.

anyway, both string and micro inverter have their pros and cons, only inverter suitable to your house environment is the best choice.
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