Is there any easy-to-maintain downlights?

Like those LED Recessed ES27 Fitting Downlight suits All E27 LED Bulb but seems like very difficult to find nowadays.

All pakai those downlights need to korek when need to change the bulb. When you korek, some plaster fall down.

Isn't E27 bulb available almost everywhere? The only issue with such downlight, IMO, is due to the poor light throw (dark).

Those recessed downlight, on the other hand, are brighter but chap ayam type don't last long. To replace them without damaging plaster ceiling takes some practice but very possible.

I normally pull out a bit, look for one of the clips and push the housing towards the other clip.This gives me space to insert a finger into the other clip to force it up and release one side. Once a side is released, you can slide it out without damaging the plaster ceiling.

This? I think many shop still selling. Just get the housing with E27 socket.

this type has many dark spots if spaced more than 2m... not recommended although maintenance is easier.

Just get good ones (Philips/Osram) and hook up with Wago 221-412/ 221-413.

wago connector.. 識貨wor 大家姐

There are many size available and you can increase the number and a better reflector and a better placement. Way easier to change, you don't even need to climb a stair.

This post has been edited by tvcat: Sep 13 2023, 09:04 AM

My house all install this. Still available, it's very easy to change the bulbs la, get osram or Philips brand bulbs, will last quite long. Use 6" one not 4", bigger reflector will spread the lights wider area. Those saying 2m got gap are talking nonsense.

now the in thing is magnetic tracks. where got people still use downlights? magnetic tracks no need for plaster ceiling

I go for the E27 sockets. The rest will likely damage the plaster ceiling when you need to replace.

Another option is the rails/track lights. Install then only change the individual track light when rosak.

Track lights are more for wall washing isnt it?

old house, u want me to take down everything just to install the current in thing meh

depends on your house, if new/empty house easier to fit in. just look for an empty wall to direct the lights, or worst case point to ceiling lor

for older house, full of furniture and sampah type like mine just use E27 la

got many different fixtures, even pendants

Open your eyes.

E27 LED Bulb is everywhere.

I'm using GU10 for the main lightings and track spotlights, just to enhance the attention. My experience with the round LED lights, no very pleasant even using phillips type. Flicker, dimming.. some of the problems after 1 year ++. But I cannot deny, E27 still the best and most easy to handle for layman (like me!)

not that hard lah

https://www.takethreelighting.com/layout-do...ts-general.html

you don't know the rule of thumb?

U need to divide ceiling height by half to get the spacing of downlight. say 3m headroom needs 1.5m downlight spacing maximum.

Oh! Thank you for sharing, I leaned something today.

wow, very nice, first time I heard about this magnetic tracks, seems cheap too selling in shopee.

btw, I already got plaster ceiling (developer already kasi), so still can install this?

I wonder is maintenance is a lot easy?

Got two types of tracks.. one you can embed into the plaster ceiling and one you can surface mount it to concrete ceiling. Not sure if you can use surface mounted ones on plaster ceiling

Normal florescent tube is the best. Less glare, less led flicker, cheap tube replacement.

My 2 bathroom and store room still running on fluorescent light.

For 24yrs. It refuse to die.

First time memang a bit tricky, I accidentally took out a small chunk of plaster doing so. It gets easier the next time.

I'd say the most "difficult" part is connecting the electrical cables especially if the ladder is not tall enough.

Fluorescent is better than LED
Some people is sensitive to LED lights as it has flickers

But fluorescent not power saving. LED use much lower power for same amount of light. 24 yrs, you lost a lot more in energy bill, more than your flurescent tubes.

Not true. I have a room change to Philip led tube fit on fluorescent holder. At 20w led, the lumens is lower.

Since the light not run frequent (not even a min/day), hardly scratch the bill.

then u r not using fluresecent tube, you are using LED on a flurorescent holder only.

??

The bathroom and store room is not running on Led tube.

i hate changing tis with a passion

my workplace ones always spoilt n flicker every few weeks

dunno boss buy cheap or what

when replace sure the plasters chips n fly all around

I'm using these throughout my house, never had an issue. Like others say, light distribution could be better in these cases, but they're solid otherwise.

am using this from FEEL-LITE since MCO.



the light comes in 2 parts, a bracket and then the light itself. the bracket that attaches itself to the plaster ceiling is permanent and then the light slots in. for replacement, you just need to slide out the light itself only leaving the bracket untouched. Zero risks in damaging the plaster ceiling.

looks very good, i mean easy to replace. Is this standard or custom? I mean is the light itself easily available or only from Feel-Lite?

i think it should be standard because i don't believe Feel-Lite manufactures them, they should only be the distributor but so far, i have no issue in purchasing, always readily to be purchased from the lighting store near my home.

this is very expensive compared to non-seperable recessed downlight!

Like 2x the price? Crazy.

RM25.00 for a pair is expensive for you

A pair? 2 pcs? Really?

https://shopee.com.my/Feel-Lite-LED-Downlig...64-cb8c47d96cbe

only 1 pcs RM23

https://shopee.com.my/Feel-Lite-Led-Downlig...ec-3bd7286bd9bb

Meanwhile this is only RM13 for 1 pcs, also feel-lite but non-seperable.

This post has been edited by GoodMorningMY: Sep 21 2023, 08:47 PM

what i meant by a pair was "2 pieces", the bracket and the light itself.

good things aren't cheap, cheap things aren't good.

there is no such thing as cheap and good. besides, RM23 for one LED downlight is considered very reasonable already given the convenience it provides. assuming that the light gives you a lifespan of one year (at least), that translate to like RM0.06 daily.


if your budget is more like RM13 per piece then it's perfectly alright to go for the latter but it defeats the purposes of you opening this thread in the first place

The replacement light, must we use back the same brand in order to fit the bracket?

Not sure about this as I have only bought back the same product for replacement, figured it would be too much of a hassle and a waste of time to try and find from a 3rd party or OEM manufacturer that would fit the bracket - all for the purpose of saving a few ringgit

My best guess would be yes as I noticed that there are grooves on the bracket and then 4 metal pins on the sides of the light housing which i supposed they are the right fit.

I see. The reason I asked about 3rd party replacement isn't just about saving money. Proprietary replacement is usually more difficult to source and product lifespan (EOL) may be shorter.

maybe a good idea to buy 10% more for backup?

Another question is will downlight reliability reduce over time even without use?

No need if you get the same diameter.

Drop in down lights (bracketed) follow the hole size in inches. 4/6in are common. Got other sizes.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Sep 23 2023, 02:18 PM

https://shopee.com.my/%F0%9F%87%B2%F0%9F%87...c9-e996818d1e96

GU10 casing can fit it almost any GU10 bulbs, a separate compartment can be easily removed to replace the bulb without needing to take out the whole casing.

Thats like the ugliest choice of lights, like absolute ugliest.
Just stop using cheapo LEDs, then no more flicker problem.

Cheapo LED downlight RM5 (need at least 4 per room) (use 3-6 months will spoil randomly, then will flicker like crazy)
Phillips LED downlight RM40 (4 per room)
Normal florescent tube light RM6 (only need 1)

The economics is clear. Most people only need cost efficient and pragmatic lighting solutions.

Between 4 downlights and one tube - the lumens are different.

After u korek, can put those white sealant.. mr diy got sell... will look tidier

True.
Then can consider using 2 tubes

Valid concern but i doubt the cessation will be any time soon - have been using this light since before MCO and procuring them so far has been no issue and if you look at their retailers / manufacturer, it's located in Johor and they have an array of line ups which utilizes the same modular design.

If you store them properly, the components will not deteriorate without cause.