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post Nov 25 2007, 09:13 PM

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eh.. i dont have the problem of the white edges...

only prob i have which is similar with the hd2900xt is when u start switching monitors

so better use 2 monitors on the 2nd card which doent seem to be affected

gave a google translate version of this webby..
1.5v for 3870
anybody dares?
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%...n&hl=en&ie=UTF8


Added on November 25, 2007, 9:14 pm
QUOTE(peacezxp @ Nov 25 2007, 09:05 PM)
Im using the 3870 for almost a week now..compare it to 2900xt 1gb DDR4 that I have previously, still have the same issue...quite dissappointed. even with the 7.11 driver still same issue. doh.gif
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uik thats bst dude gpu right..
the one i bought from him for a day comparison and then sold to u..

so far i am very happy with the crossfire performance

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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 25 2007, 09:50 PM)
@cstkl1

What do u mean ??

@peacezxp
I had the AA problem with NFS: Pro Street, Company of Heroes and Command & Conquer 3 ... other game I had not even want to try to activate the AA a all .. sien ...

there were two more game that had problem with: Tomb Raider Legend and TR Anniversary

I hope the issue is really solved with this new card but seems like it isn't ...

Anyone else that have tried 3870 with AA enable  ??

Need more input to decide to grab this babe or not ..
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the catalyst converter problem

if u keep messing around with ure dual monitor display
sooner or later
for some reason

the primary card monitor will only show black and white
to solve it
u need to uninstall ati drivers and reinstall it back

dude i also have no issue with crysis.. u did apply the crysis hotfix right??

or any other game with any form of artifacts.

reverted back to normal bios

peace flash the msi OC bios since its runnin at 800/2150..
a slight increase in core clock..


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QUOTE(peacezxp @ Nov 25 2007, 11:47 PM)
Bro, r u referring to me? the msi OC bios is for the 3870 is it? if yes, mind providing link of the file to me?

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Edit: Found the file already. Can the bios be use on my saphire 3870? What tool would u recommend to flash it wif?
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bios
http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?option=co...&filecatid=2272

winflash
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/854/W...sh_2.0.0.2.html


u should be done downloading
and flashing in about 2 mins
well here is mine

[attachmentid=338040]
first card and second card...




as y can see
just a bit more on the core
and they maintain the same vendor

i think ure card is the same also right vendor id ati

so y not?? just 1 percent boost instead of overclocking ure card ..

actually waiting for the gecube OC2 bios..


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hmm i dont play nfs games
so no idea
but for crysis no probs

running on crossfire at 1920x1200 a high.

for COD4 was running 1920x1200 at high with 4AA 16AF.. played until finish
no bug or probs..

Time shift also same

Company of heros also same.

all on DX9.

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dude its not the card that is ure problem

crysis requires a balance system

do u know whats the diifference of me running say 3.5ghz 500x7
anmd 500x8 4ghz???... around 0.43fps difference for a single card.
but u need to crank up the bus speed and get a c2d...

2.0 on amd proc is like running 1.6ghz on a c2d.

and u need more cores as this game uses the other core for physics etc
single core no chance.

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Alien ware comparison

heck they recommend HD3870 crossfire with the latest quad proc
but no surprise there as the nvidia mobo cant support the 45nm

[attachmentid=338077]
looking at those scores
it might be true
when u scale the proc
as this gpu hits new heights when u overclock ure proc

even 4ghz.. still bottleneck.

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 26 2007, 04:26 AM)
Really nice scores from the 3870. Looks like their driver optimizations are late, but coming.

Question is though, are those tests done with AA? Because IIRC the 2900 has somewhat broken AA units and does it via Shader ALU instead.

Anyways, Powercolor has allocated 30 3870s for Malaysia. 30. Three Zero. Not Thirty thousand. AMD lies about shitty yields and supply issues.

Atleast they're better than HIS. HIS only allocated 20 tongue.gif
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heheh modded bios
cool stuff


caution to other ppl
i opted for teh 830/2400
mainly because of the mem cooling
dont want to run it above specs

http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm


Added on November 26, 2007, 4:41 ameh just realized alienware date 10.12.07???

hmm is this the 7.12 bios that was suppose to be launch around the same time??

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QUOTE(irenic @ Nov 26 2007, 11:06 AM)
i'm using rivatuner to adjust the fan speed.. oc to 891/1315, the core remains at 40c idle.. hehe.. dropped from 62c idle @ 25c fan speed
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brand saphire my bet??

hmm i cant do that high stable on crossfire on that overvoltaged bios card
another guy in XS also had the same issue

now testing the 860/1200 bios...

i still wish somebody gets the gecube oc2 bios
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QUOTE(frags @ Nov 26 2007, 01:56 PM)
yeah i know...i did that too...but i still cant figure it out...
No the problem we are facing doesnt deal with the game engine itself...its stuttering intro movies...specifically the EA, Intel, NVIDIA intro and the main menu...the odd thing is the crytek logo goes smoothly..

We had no problem with these movies using NVIDIA before this...im quite sure its a software thing...either something screwed up in the driver...or a codec went missing...I have no problem with any other games intro movies..
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no probs with the movies on my side.
infact so far no bugs on games at all .

no game laggy ness on all the games i've played at dx9
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testing the 875/2500 bios

so far looks good.

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QUOTE(peacezxp @ Nov 26 2007, 05:01 PM)
How do u guys keep the temp stable? Used the bios for 800/2000 but idle temp is a bit high. tried using rivatuner but can only set it 100% at the fixed speed option, which is a bit loud.
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eh.. for me sound doesn't really bother me..
comp is in a different room all together.

testing bios to prep for WC that i am going to buy from metalzone


Added on November 26, 2007, 6:34 pmirenic
that 3870
is it ures or coolice??

hmm wonder y he is selling it so fast??

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QUOTE(coolice @ Nov 26 2007, 07:56 PM)
i tried s1 + 2 panaflo on 3870..even load is lower than 50c..idle 43/44c
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hmm idle is at 38C...
Load around 51C

with stock cooler
and a fm123 inbetween both cards.

and AC5 for TIM
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dude theres no difference for 3dmark scores and company of heroes

infact all of the scores no difference
1fps can even be for so many background service reasons...

conclusion no difference on gaming performances...
it was just a fix for a lot of bugs


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QUOTE(irenic @ Nov 26 2007, 09:08 PM)
based on 2 days chance playing with 3870.. i could only notice 1 advantage of this 3870 over the 8800gt  in single card config.. which is movie playback quality.. i'd tested playing transformers in hd format and the image is far2 i can say a lot better than the  8800gt.. the color is richer, more  details etc..

but in terms of gaming, and benching, i can say it disappoint me.. yeah it might be good in gaming, but not as good as 8800gt.. i played 3 games.. which are crysis, nfs pro street and pes2008.. using fraps, i dun notice any major area where this 3870 manage to has higher fps than 8800gt.. even in pes2008 i got a flickering screen in certain period..  i dunno.. hopefully it will be solved in the next driver..

for benchies.. as we all shud know already, single 8800gt is better than the 3870.. by quite a margin.. not really sure bout dual card setup.. would love to try it but the only thing that holding me is there's no good c2d board that support SLI that i think is worth to buy.. sad.gif
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hmm agreed

but crossfire murders the sli

y?? i tested
running at 4ghz
the crossfire still bottlnecked
while the 8800gt like most sli's config maybe chipset or what dies out at 3.6-3.7...

Did u see XS when the penryn at 4.5 was paired with a bit overclocked 3870 at 850/2500 .. meger overclock and his sm3 scores and sm2 scores was way off the roof.
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpo...2&postcount=251


Added on November 26, 2007, 11:17 pmask anybody who sli...

difference of stock gpu at 3.6ghz and 4ghz...
dont expect the sm3/sm2 scores to keep climbing
but crossfire..
gila still bottleneck at 4

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Nov 27 2007, 05:18 PM)
anyone use 3870 in winxp?
which catalyst driver ur using?
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errr catalyst supports all os

they are the same..
its not like nvidia cards...
which nowadays u have to install different drivers for different GPU cores and different OS's

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QUOTE(viqq @ Nov 27 2007, 09:31 PM)
eh? u can come to my house .. i can show u.. but resolution only 1024x768 la .. 1440x900 also ok but lag sometimes so i chose to run it at 1024x768 ... all in all nice card nwayz HD3850... cheap cheap
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errr 1024x768...
errr dont think anybody will come and see that...

hmm the 1900xtx will pawn ure comp at that reso...

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QUOTE(InnerMax @ Nov 28 2007, 01:56 PM)
Finally they (ATI) learn something on how to be the best. But dont forget Nvidia 9800 waiting in the list. It is said to be 2x more power than 8800 ultra. Check this out:
But thats only speculation. Then again i'm maybe wrong.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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dude what rubbish
ure quoting something that was speculated 7-8 months ago

they didnt even know that the 8800gt was this god.. so wazzup??

speculation

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ATI is releasing the RV1000.
Its suppose to be 10gigaflops and can blow u away....

It has a inbuild octa core with nitro cooling...

and its built on a 1nm fab.

The size of the card is suppose to be as small as a card holder.

It is noted that the first buyer who preordered this monsther card  is the famous cstkl1's maid who until today remain anonymous.
She is said to be the first astronaut for indonesia and will be give a datukship equivalent in indonesian 

The price is quoted at RM1.
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yeah but hmm one thing is being downplayed

the catalyst control program to control crossfire still sux badly

it crashes for no reason.. etc blah blah blah.. list goes on and on

while nvidia performance might be lower etc
does not happen so often in xp
except for vista 64.
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hmmm i tried all the bios

they work well single card
but not when u crossfire it...

i wonder y...
currently back to the msi oc bios 800core stock mem


Added on November 28, 2007, 4:38 pmps i find running crysis gpu demo gpu benchmark loop a very good test to test stability. for gpu

and for cpu use the cpu benchmark...

usually i increase the loop to 10 for both via editing the bat file.

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