Yea no rush , my mental note is by March only, let’s see

Which battery for which variant bro?

Nvm. got the answer.

So LFP (SR variant) - slower charging but longer lifespan.

This post has been edited by Wildcat: Dec 1 2023, 06:32 PM

The range, power, audio system, DC charging speed & AWD is a no-brainer at a mere RM29k. Just go long range if budget permits.

Initially I was sceptical about the NMC battery too. However, I made the decision to embrace the NMC battery due to below reasons:

1) On paper, LFP battery has way less battery degradation than NMC battery. However, in real life, the degradation of NMC battery on paper is rarely felt by users because its battery life cycle is too long to be able to notice a big degradation.
2) Even if I charge the NMC battery to 80% I still have more or less the same range as the LFP battery and I can always charge to 100% if there's a need for a long journey. That's priceless flexibility.
3) Let's say I'm a user who doesn't care about battery longevity of the NMC battery (charging it to 100% frequently) and the battery degraded to 80% of capacity after 10 years. That's still around the same range of a brand new SR Model 3.

This post has been edited by HotshotS: Dec 1 2023, 06:43 PM

That's true also but the degradation of NMC battery kicks in way earlier than LFP for sure. I'm not a RV guy by any means but lets say in a few years time where the value of an EV is determined by the battery wear, then this will be an important factor

Also the fact that LFP is less prone to fire accidents

https://ecotreelithium.co.uk/news/lithium-nmc-vs-lifepo4/

But anyway both choices are not wrong. Both still offers tremendous value for money. SR itself already can do around 400km+ of real world range, that's enough for almost everyone except those who do a lot of outstation trips to JB or beyond Penang. What we really need now is more DC chargers along PLUS, by then we can slowly forget about range anxiety

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Dec 1 2023, 06:59 PM

Yes NMC's degradation kicks in way earlier for sure but it has room for degradation in the long term due to the large battery so it definitely still has its plus points.

As for the LFP battery being less prone to fire accident, it is also true but it doesn't mean that NMC battery is prone to fire accident. Similar to the battery degradation, most people won't face fire accident in a NMC battery packed car, let alone a LFP one.

Don't worry about the DC chargers though, Tesla's superchargers are gonna cover major cities along the PLUS highway (still need to exit PLUS though). Based on their speed of implementation so far, I'm sure we will not be waiting for too long for the superchargers in Ipoh and Penang.

This post has been edited by HotshotS: Dec 1 2023, 07:17 PM

Battery chemistry aside. I think a bigger issue would be the Tesla Vision without USS. It won't be a deal breaker for most but at current stage its just not a reliable parking aid



This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Dec 1 2023, 07:37 PM

A reveiw from an owner of M3 and a Ioniq.
Already covered 1,293km with 17.6 Wh/km.



Most underated comment from the owner, SOC estimation.



This post has been edited by Lone Wolf X: Dec 5 2023, 05:31 AM

Does Msian-delivered Highland models still come with USS, or deleted already?

HW4, no USS.

what about AU? I came across an article on compulsory rear view camera and parking sensors for cars on sale from 2025. Will be interesting if AU's Model 3 comes with USS lol.

How does this bode well with soon-to-be-launched Model 3 Highland? Any new models on display, with/without USS?

But the requirement is kinda grey - parking sensors not only based on USS, but perhaps based on vision/camera system is also acceptable?

There's too much genuine feedback from owners that Tesla Vision is relatively less reliable.

I think we’re only due to receive Highland models in the new year, but the previous gen ones did come with USS.

Tesla can replicate parking sensors through Vision so I think that’ll get it across the line as far as compliance is concerned.

At the same time, even with USS-equipped cars, there’s no guarantee Tesla won’t turn it off at some stage in the future just like what they did with radar.

With this efficiency, what is the range after 140-160km/h? Just curious.

My pleasure, I’ve been growing my expertise in solving distance problems. Let's find how far can an EV with 84.6kWh battery travel with 180 Wh/km?

We can use the following formula to calculate the distance traveled by an EV:

distance = (battery capacity) / (energy consumption per kilometer)

where:

distance is the distance traveled in kilometers
battery capacity is the battery capacity in kilowatt-hours (kWh)
energy consumption per kilometer is the energy consumption per kilometer in watt-hours per kilometer (Wh/km)

Plugging in the given values, we get:

distance = (84.6 kWh) / (180 Wh/km)
distance = 470 km
Therefore, an EV with 84.6kWh battery can travel up to 470 kilometers with 180 Wh/km.

All new M3 and MY now only comes with Vision. No more USS afaik

https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision

Pro tip - you can review mileage and consumption data from the trips card. No need to jump into the menus for this.

Under the car visualisation on the right side of the screen, under it is your radio/media info.
If you swipe left, it’ll show you your trip info.

I guess if you’ve never had USS and you start off with Vision, you won’t know if one is better than the other.

But the scary part is Vision is not accurate in the first place. Especially the front as shown by many reviews, the distance estimate is just off. Not good for someone who relies too much on it (since you bought an exp car why not?) and not using their own eyes

I was skeptical about the distance estimate, during my test drive I was testing it too (and came out from the car just to gauge how it looks like). Pretty good la for me.

84.6kwh is the effective battery capacity for LR? I saw many contradicting kwh figures for LR and RWD

Someone shared their consumption figures for M3 Highland SR

https://m.facebook.com/groups/myevoc/permal...mibextid=Nif5oz

Based on his figures and using this calculator

https://www.homechargingstations.com/electr...nge-calculator/

Assuming 100% state of charge and a 60kWh battery (there's rumours that Highland SR is having 66kWh but no confirmation so lets stick with 60)

10.5kWh/100km - 571km (max possible range)
13.6kWh/100km - 441km
14.7kWh/100km - 408km

So these are the real world range you can expect out of SR depending on driving habit and traffic conditions. Its also possible to hit or exceed the WLTP figure

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Dec 6 2023, 02:47 PM