Must be the fridge and coway machine then. Thats the only thing i know is running when everything else is switched off

I understand the purpose of ICPT, and what I meant by financial benefit I meant that ICPT doesn't add or remove from TNB's profitability. It is a mechanism that means to pass back both cost or savings back to consumers in the event of fluctuating cost of generating electricity (which is highly affected by coal prices). Of course a large amount of subsidy is being paid by the gov especially in the earlier part of this year to sustain the rebate ICPT that domestic users are enjoying, and but I know it would have been worse had not commercial and industrial users been levied the RM0.2/kWh surcharge.

Anyway what I was disputing was mainly how the ICPT is used to achieve the gov's target subsidy intents, by using different ICPT surcharges on different categories of users however taking your hint and reading back I must admit I have mis-fired the wrong person therefore I do apologise.

If this 2 items can use above 410 watts per hour (10kWh/24 hours = roughly 410watt )

You can throw away them… crazy figures
Roughly around 2 amps 24hours

Tnb just flat out charge additional 10 cents/kWh for the total energy usage instead of just anything above the 1500kWh use

Got full home security system and cctv monitoring at each corner as well so that also counts maybe

ev main purpose is not I repeat not to make it more environmental  better. its just serve as an alternative to fossil fuel .
our world current way of producing electricity is still harmful to the environment.
unless only renewable energy such  as solar panels  is massy adopted.
and thirdly I see those ppl installing solar in their house and talks about money save or money earn ( if can ) its just running round and round 10 year cycle period.
all also talked roi here and there but after 10 years. they repeat the same thing. that is invest again in whatever form and wait another 10 years.

If your reason for saying ev is not environmentally good is due to batteries, I can still agree.
But if you say it's because of "dirty electricity", I have to disagree.

Our power plants are more efficient than an ICE car can ever be. It means, less wastage of energy from power plant compared to ICE cars. Power plants recover the heat from flue gas by having a waste heat boiler/recovery/heater, whereas in cars you actually need to spend energy (radiator fan) to remove excess heat from engine.

Let's not mention how ICE cars require petrol and diesel - something that requires energy to produce.
Also, fuels need to be distributed to petrol stations around the country by road tankers, further consuming energy.

nah cctv cant suck much electricity, by that amount is either heating or cooling which can use such huge numbers,

better get a wattmeter and start your electricity audit yo, who knows might be neighbor stealing, happened so many times

If your reason for saying ev is not environmentally good is due to batteries, I can still agree.
But if you say it's because of "dirty electricity", I have to disagree.

Our power plants are more efficient than an ICE car can ever be. It means, less wastage of energy from power plant compared to ICE cars. Power plants recover the heat from flue gas by having a waste heat boiler/recovery/heater, whereas in cars you actually need to spend energy (radiator fan) to remove excess heat from engine.

Let's not mention how ICE cars require petrol and diesel - something that requires energy to produce.
Also, fuels need to be distributed to petrol stations around the country by road tankers, further consuming energy.

If your reason for saying ev is not environmentally good is due to batteries, I can still agree.
But if you say it's because of "dirty electricity", I have to disagree.

Our power plants are more efficient than an ICE car can ever be. It means, less wastage of energy from power plant compared to ICE cars. Power plants recover the heat from flue gas by having a waste heat boiler/recovery/heater, whereas in cars you actually need to spend energy (radiator fan) to remove excess heat from engine.

Let's not mention how ICE cars require petrol and diesel - something that requires energy to produce.
Also, fuels need to be distributed to petrol stations around the country by road tankers, further consuming energy.

If you are a science student, you should understand why our electricity tranmisssion/conversion are inefficient and thus dirty if our power generation is relying on gas and oil.

Only way to make ice car more carbon neutral is by using 100% biofuel. The trees absorb co2 and biofuel create co2 from combustion in the ice.

There are ways to recover low grade heat from the ice car, but it will the car bulky or more expensive. Maybe ammonia based gas power cycle plus thermoelectric chips down the line.

Sarawak doesn’t have TNB, Sarawak electricity provider is Sarawak Energy, and the highest tariff is 31.5cents per kWh
Sarawak has excessive energy produced, Sarawak government plan to use those excess hydropower energy to produce hydrogen

Could you do this non-science student a favour by explaining why electricity transmission is more dirty than hydrocarbon fuel distribution from refinery to individual petrol stations using road tankers?

I am not saying more dirty. Please don't quote me wrong. There is no need to compare which one dirtier as both are dirt in different ways.

Back to my original point: There are a lot of energy loss using grid electricity. Along the transmission lines, the voltage transformation between power plant and power distribution hub and even to your house, and also AC to DC transformation at household power adapters, even charging your EV also has energy loss as heat.

To me, EV is just a hyppie and trendy stuffs. You want clean energy, it should be hydrogen fuel cell or hydrogen ICE where hydrogen is generated using solar energy or hydroelectric.

Lol
He is a penny pincher type of person.
Either a bungalow or semi-D size house.
Several kids including teens, so you have 10+ gadgets in the house and one or two gaming PC. Mom's a kitchen dweller, constantly cooking and baking. Lots of clothes to wash including dryer. Bonus if they have water pumps for their water tank, aquarium, or water feature landscapes and bonus if they have a swimming pool.

All rooms fully aircond plus living room. Easily can hit 1k+ bill.