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 Never ever borrow money from Ah Long - UPDATE 9/8, My friend experience here

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TSNapalm_man
post Aug 9 2023, 09:36 AM, updated 3y ago

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Guys, the purpose of me opening this topic is to remind all of you and please inform your friends and family as well, to avoid borrow money from Ah Long. For those who wonder how these Ah Long squeeze people, here's the story, quite long and I'll try to make it short.

Yesterday 8/8/2023, a friend of mine call me asking if I can meet him, urgent he said. So we meet up at a place, then he ask me to borrow him RM3000. I ask him why? He told me the whole story about he borrow RM3000 from Ah Long via online, no paper work no signature no black and white. I ask again how can he be so careless, agreeing to this kind of crazy deals. Now my friend here aren't an alcoholic, a gambler, or addicted to any negative stuffs. He know it's a stupid idea but he needs money that time, found out about this loan online and go ahead with it. Within 30 days, he must pay off the RM3000 in lum sum, simple to said borrow RM3000 but must pay back RM3000 within 30 days. So yesterday at 8/8/2023, is the due date. I helped him sold his computers, ipad and some other gadgets. We collected about RM2000+ because we sell these items dirt cheap, instantly got call and PM from various buyers. He manage to borrow few hundreds from his friends to make it RM3000.

Now here's the most fucked up part, by logic before 12am, the date will still remains 8/8. So he still have couple of hours to pay up the RM3000 right? Nope, the Ah Long literally said this "If follow market, other people charge interest RM1000 per hour.". I don't want to share the chat between him and the Ah Long here because he's already in miserable state, but that's the message he showed me. That text is before 12am, the date still 8/8 but to the Ah Long it's times up. They ask him to pay another RM4000 even after he paid the RM3000 before 12am 8/8 because of his "late payment", so it's RM3000 + RM4000 = RM7000 to them. You see, to this Ah Long, after 12am or no, they still charge you late interest because they feel you late to pay them back. All this in whatsapp and I ask him to screenshot all the chat as the Ah Long later might delete it, and if that happened he might get into trouble as he got no evidence against the Ah Long. Yes I know, our law aren't so good against Ah Long but I still ask him to do so just in case. After that I told him don't pay the RM4000, go to PPIM and tell them what happened. He paid on the last day of the 30 days, yet because the Ah Long feels like he's late to pay and they simply ask him to pay another RM4000. I think now he already in PPIM office, hope they can figure something out.

You guys might have question,
- What he did with the RM3000? He don't want to tell me but he assure me that the RM3000 aren't for those bad things, I know him for so long, so I believe him.
- Why he never ask his family, friends or company for help? He said he did, but non of them able to help that day before he go to Ah Long.
- Did I borrow money to him yesterday? No I didn't because I also needed money as I will be buying another car soon. But I did help him get around RM2000+ by helping him selling off his computer and gadgets.

This thread is to raise awareness, if you guys have any Ah Long stories, feel free to share it here so that others know how fucked up these Ah Long are in reality.

UPDATE 9/8
He went to PPIM, they help him checked with the company they claim they're from and surprise, the company said they do not have any record from my friend at all. PPIM said 2 possibility, 1 is this person are playing ah long, meaning they just some scammers pretending ah long plus all these usual threats. 2 this person could be the old school type of ah long, yes they do have the man power and they will causing trouble like throwing red paint etc. PPIM advise him to file a police report which he did afterwards, in the mean time PPIM try to contact the ah long but they never answer the phone call. In the police station, an inspector was assigned to assist him. Inspector advise him to change his phone number and deactivate his social media for a time being, until everything as cool down. Yes the inspector also try to contact the ah long and same, not answering the phone while he still receiving threats via whatsapp. Worse parts is that the ah long get to his mom, I don't know what his parents will do to him but I do know his parents won't go easy on him. He even told me he's ready if the family disown him over this, man this sure is fucked up. For now the inspector inform him to stay alert for any suspicious individual in his place, call the police if someone ever came to harass him. The inspector also said they're now tracking down the caller and found the caller aren't in KL/Selangor, also tracking down the bank account owner. I sure hope the police will get to them so that my friend and some other poor victim no longer have to worry about these bastards harassing them, imagine sleeping with one open and looking over your shoulder every time you going out.

UPDATE
To those who thought borrow RM3000 get RM3000, here's the text my friend get,

Name: My friend's
Loan amount: RM3000
Get on hand: RM2400
Loan date: 9/8/2023
Due date: 8/8/2023
Agent: ah long name, pretty sure it's a made up name



This post has been edited by Napalm_man: Aug 14 2023, 09:22 AM
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:39 AM

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If he went to PPIM, I believe should be able to settle.

I don't know how efficient they are, but PPIM should have the influence & "muscle" to negotiate with the along.
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Napalm_man @ Aug 9 2023, 09:36 AM)
Guys, the purpose of me opening this topic is to remind to all of you and please inform your friends and family as well, to avoid borrow money from Ah Long. For those who wonder how these Ah Long squeeze people, here's the story, quite long and I'll try to make it short.

Yesterday 8/8/2023, a friend of mine call me asking if I can meet him, urgent he said. So we meet up at a place, then he ask me to borrow him RM3000. I ask him why? He told me the whole story about he borrow RM3000 from Ah Long via online, no paper work no signature no black and white. I ask again how can he be so careless, agreeing to this kind of crazy deals. Now my friend here aren't an alcoholic, a gambler, or addicted to any negative stuffs. He know it's a stupid idea but he needs money that time, found out about this loan online and go ahead with it. Within 30 days, he must pay off the RM3000 in lum sum, simple to said borrow RM3000 but must pay back RM3000 within 30 days. So yesterday at 8/8/2023, is the due date. I helped him sold his computers, ipad and some other gadgets. We collected about RM2000+ because we sell these items dirt cheap, instantly got call and PM from various buyers. He manage to borrow few hundreds from his friends to make it RM3000.

Now here's the most fucked up part, by logic before 12am, the date will still remains 8/8. So he still have couple of hours to pay up the RM3000 right? Nope, the Ah Long literally said this "If follow market, other people charge interest RM1000 per hour.". I don't want to share the chat between him and the Ah Long here because he's already in miserable state, but that's the message he showed me. That text is before 12am, the date still 8/8 but to the Ah Long it's times up. They ask him to pay another RM4000 even after he paid the RM3000 before 12am 8/8 because of his "late payment", so it's RM3000 + RM4000 = RM7000 to them. You see, to this Ah Long, after 12am or no, they still charge you late interest because they feel you late to pay them back. All this in whatsapp and I ask him to screenshot all the chat as the Ah Long later might delete it, and if that happened he might get into trouble as he got no evidence against the Ah Long. Yes I know, our law aren't so good against Ah Long but I still ask him to do so just in case. After that I told him don't pay the RM4000, go to PPIM and tell them what happened. He paid on the last day of the 30 days, yet because the Ah Long feels like he's late to pay and they simply ask him to pay another RM4000. I think now he already in PPIM office, hope they can figure something out.

You guys might have question,
- What he did with the RM3000? He don't want to tell me but he assure me that the RM3000 aren't for those bad things, I know him for so long, so I believe him.
- Why he never ask his family, friends or company for help? He said he did, but non of them able to help that day before he go to Ah Long.
- Did I borrow money to him yesterday? No I didn't because I also needed money as I will be buying another car soon. But I did help him get around RM2000+ by helping him selling off his computer and gadgets.

This thread is to raise awareness, if you guys have any Ah Long stories, feel free to share it here so that others know how fucked up these Ah Long are in reality.
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some said its forbidden ( i guess its true)

QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Aug 9 2023, 09:39 AM)
If he went to PPIM, I believe should be able to settle.

I don't know how efficient they are, but PPIM should have the influence & "muscle" to negotiate with the along.
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to some extent yes, mostly nego T&C only
dont get your hopes high.. money borrowed still need to pay
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:45 AM

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thanks for sharing. hopefully we all don't need to resort to ahlong loan in our lives.
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:45 AM

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got such ah long lend money 30 days free interest + no paperwork? you believe ke?
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Wahlberg @ Aug 9 2023, 09:43 AM)
to some extent yes, mostly nego T&C only
dont get your hopes high.. money borrowed still need to pay
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Yea, but TS's friend paid back the loaned sum already.

It's the along who suka hati charged interest even before the due date.
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Aug 9 2023, 09:45 AM)
got such ah long lend money 30 days free interest + no paperwork? you believe ke?
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I read his text between him and Ah Long, what you think?
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Aug 9 2023, 09:45 AM)
got such ah long lend money 30 days free interest + no paperwork? you believe ke?
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That’s how they entice you initially and make you fall into their trap
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post Aug 9 2023, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Aug 9 2023, 09:45 AM)
got such ah long lend money 30 days free interest + no paperwork? you believe ke?
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I believe Ah Longs are charity organization if they practise free interest
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post Aug 9 2023, 10:03 AM

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Not going into why borrow from ah long, its beyond that.
Borrow 3k pay back 3k too good to be true. even friend also charge interest.
Ah long needs to make money,.
You are dealing with lawless people, no documentation, they would surely open high (+4k interest), maybe should try to negotiate. 2k down.
And why count down the clock till last minute to repay, you are dealing with ah long and should have bufferred.
End of day, your friend has opened a door way, Ah long see this as opportunity, and will come up with whatever stories to make him keep paying. The more you pay Ah long will see him capable of getting more . Good luck to him.
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post Aug 9 2023, 10:04 AM

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That is scary.. I hope those Ah Long are captured and prisoned.

Gomen is so busy about Telegram, why are not they after those online Ah Longs also. I know there are probably too many, but at least do something? Start hunting one by one? For Sajat also they busy..

Anyway TS, I understand he needed the money urgently. But then he had 30 days to pay off right and it's RM3k. After getting the money, why not just apply TnG GoPinjam for RM3k.. get installment payment, although with interest, but legit and registered. Then use that money to pay Ah Long?

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post Aug 9 2023, 10:10 AM

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We don’t know the full circumstances of TS’ fried - whether he would qualify for a legal personal loan or not. Maybe that’s why he felt he needed to look for loan sharks…. But that’s really a big no no whatever the reason or circumstance may be.
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post Aug 9 2023, 10:15 AM

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Even the cash withdrawal from the credit card will not be charged that bad. Why the friend not even considered the cash withdrawal from CC?

Of course if possible, not to withdraw from CC because the interest is at 18% p.a.
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post Aug 9 2023, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Aug 9 2023, 10:04 AM)
That is scary.. I hope those Ah Long are captured and prisoned.

Gomen is so busy about Telegram, why are not they after those online Ah Longs also. I know there are probably too many, but at least do something? Start hunting one by one? For Sajat also they busy..

Anyway TS, I understand he needed the money urgently. But then he had 30 days to pay off right and it's RM3k. After getting the money, why not just apply TnG GoPinjam for RM3k.. get installment payment, although with interest, but legit and registered. Then use that money to pay Ah Long?
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If you really believe Ah Long provide interest-free loan, you are in for a surprise. You pay them in 20 days, they will still charge you interest lo.
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post Aug 9 2023, 10:24 AM

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Thing the biggest problem is Ah Long has no rules and make their own rules as they see fit.
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post Aug 9 2023, 10:29 AM

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ask him to just use credit card advance money next time, deal with the banks

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post Aug 9 2023, 10:33 AM

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I'm more impressed ts managed to help friend sell off his stuff and get the money so quickly, when u could just lend him that 3k and sell his stuff later with better price.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 9 2023, 10:22 AM)
If you really believe Ah Long provide interest-free loan, you are in for a surprise. You pay them in 20 days, they will still charge you interest lo.
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Yes.. but at least in this way, TS friend when making report or even speaking to Ah Long, TS friend can still say.. he paid as per the agreement, within 30 days.







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still kena bayar, PPIM will charge some percentage
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Aug 9 2023, 10:33 AM)
Yes.. but at least in this way, TS friend when making report or even speaking to Ah Long, TS friend can still say.. he paid as per the agreement, within 30 days.
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You have a point.
Maybe they really had to struggle to raise the sum.

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