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post Aug 7 2023, 12:42 PM, updated 3y ago

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Acer Store at United State already avaiable chromebook at i5 / i7 with Intel 12 gen.
-come wth 8GB or 16GB Ram
- SSD somemore.
- not avaiable in Malaysia

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-Chrome OS as a tablet .
-Use Snapdragon chip.
- only 64GB or 128GB Emcc doh.gif
- harga murah giler.




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post Aug 7 2023, 12:46 PM

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if price like a normal laptop for what we choose chrome os

nowday all laptop with the same spec come and price with win11
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post Aug 7 2023, 12:51 PM

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mahal gila, intel 12th gen with chrome OS? i rather pick windows OS doh.gif

chromebooks rm150 can la, nowadays tiktok got sell alot, rm150 to 200 can get ledi, noob OS dont need intel 12th gen to run la
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post Aug 7 2023, 12:52 PM

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People study engineering that uses Autocad tak lepas. So this thing is mainly for people that uses the regular word, excel and web based apps.
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post Aug 7 2023, 12:52 PM

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Kek so ChromeOS worth the same as Windows 11

Laptop companies memang scammers
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post Aug 7 2023, 12:57 PM

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The father of Chromebook

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/google/goog...hromebook-pixel

All the reviewer trying to justify the cost on behalf of Google biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 12:51 PM)
mahal gila, intel 12th gen with chrome OS? i rather pick windows OS doh.gif

chromebooks rm150 can la, nowadays tiktok got sell alot, rm150 to 200 can get ledi, noob OS dont need intel 12th gen to run la
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i am awaiting Snapdragon + Chrome OS + SSD + Tablet
later window can bye bye.
mana boleh tahan carry 1.2kg laptop hari hari.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 12:42 PM)
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Acer Store at United State already avaiable chromebook at i5 / i7 with Intel 12 gen.
-come wth 8GB or 16GB Ram
- SSD somemore.
- not avaiable in Malaysia

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-Chrome OS as a tablet .
-Use Snapdragon chip.
- only 64GB or 128GB Emcc doh.gif
- harga murah giler.

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Get macbook air and all problems and hassle solved
No need to worry for the next ten years
Even after ten years….the old macbook also easy to replaced by new macbook

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post Aug 7 2023, 01:06 PM

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Aren't you afraid ChromeOS after some time will lag hard like Android ?
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:03 PM)
i am awaiting Snapdragon + Chrome OS + SSD + Tablet
later window can bye bye.
mana boleh tahan carry 1.2kg laptop hari hari.
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Depends on what you really want to do with it. If Snapdragon, cannot run Linux apps.



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post Aug 7 2023, 01:08 PM

The machine... it sees everything.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:05 PM)
Get macbook air and all problems and hassle solved
No need to worry for the next ten years
Even after ten years….the old macbook also easy to replaced by new macbook
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But you will not get cross compatibility between Windows as easily as Chrome OS compared to Mac OS.
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 01:08 PM)
But you will not get cross compatibility between Windows as easily as Chrome OS compared to Mac OS.
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What????
Impossible

Any example?
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:10 PM

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Using Acer Chromebook Spin 714 (i5 gen12 with 8GB RAM)

Very premium feel, and I guess it has its advantages in term of getting a touch screen, stylus, flexible screen - and ChromeOS itself is very easy to use (and instantaneous update and start-up time compare to the clunky Windows 11)

I guess the only thing I miss is MS Excel desktop version as it still works terrible on Web edition
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:11 PM

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Lol okay lol
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:11 PM

The machine... it sees everything.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:08 PM)
What????
Impossible

Any example?
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Simple. An NTFS formatted partition external HDD can be read between Chrome OS and Windows but not Mac OS that requires ExFat.
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Aug 7 2023, 01:06 PM)
Aren't you afraid ChromeOS after some time will lag hard like Android ?
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LOL, never...

Because it really has nothing else and literally is a thin client, it can last longer than your Windows based laptop
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:12 PM

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surface is better
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 01:11 PM)
Simple. An NTFS formatted partition external HDD can be read between Chrome OS and Windows but not Mac OS that requires ExFat.
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Not true yea. MacOS can read FAT and EXFAT and NTFS

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post Aug 7 2023, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:03 PM)
i am awaiting Snapdragon + Chrome OS + SSD + Tablet
later window can bye bye.
mana boleh tahan carry 1.2kg laptop hari hari.
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my laptop 544gram ..
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 12:51 PM)
mahal gila, intel 12th gen with chrome OS? i rather pick windows OS doh.gif

chromebooks rm150 can la, nowadays tiktok got sell alot, rm150 to 200 can get ledi, noob OS dont need intel 12th gen to run la
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I actually love my premium chromebook. You get better screen, less constraint by processor and RAM, better speaker, built quality etc..

It's not just about hardware/specs but other perks as well
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 01:11 PM)
Simple. An NTFS formatted partition external HDD can be read between Chrome OS and Windows but not Mac OS that requires ExFat.
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Again, this doesn’t make it not compatible
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:13 PM

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Using a tablet may be more advantageous than a Chromebook
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:13 PM)
I actually love my premium chromebook. You get better screen, less constraint by processor and RAM, better speaker, built quality etc..

It's not just about hardware/specs but other perks as well
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What is your premium chromebook?
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:11 PM)
LOL, never...

Because it really has nothing else and literally is a thin client, it can last longer than your Windows based laptop
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question can it run window base program ?
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 01:11 PM)
Simple. An NTFS formatted partition external HDD can be read between Chrome OS and Windows but not Mac OS that requires ExFat.
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This didn’t make ChromeOS better compatible to windows > macOS
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:12 PM)
surface is better
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to each their own, depending how much is it you're invested into the Windows ecosystem.

If you need native desktop apps badly, then I guess it's a better choice.
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:10 PM)
Using Acer Chromebook Spin 714 (i5 gen12 with 8GB RAM)

Very premium feel, and I guess it has its advantages in term of getting a touch screen, stylus, flexible screen - and ChromeOS itself is very easy to use (and instantaneous update and start-up time compare to the clunky Windows 11)

I guess the only thing I miss is MS Excel desktop version as it still works terrible on Web edition
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How much you bought it?
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:14 PM)
What is your premium chromebook?
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Using Acer Spin 714

https://www.acer.com/sg-en/chromebooks/acer...n-714-cp714-1wn
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:12 PM)
surface is better
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No service center here in Malaysia
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:16 PM)
How much you bought it?
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SGD1090 after all the discounts in LZD (bought Nov last year)
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post Aug 7 2023, 01:17 PM

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I got one, the Lenovo N11. Slow like molasses and useless without an Internet connection.
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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ Aug 7 2023, 01:07 PM)
Depends on what you really want to do with it. If Snapdragon, cannot run Linux apps.
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nowdays sudah boleh example like Microsoft Edge not support Chromebook
but with Linux apps it can be install
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:16 PM)
SGD1090 after all the discounts in LZD (bought Nov last year)
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Wow! Expensive wey.
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QUOTE(Gen000 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:14 PM)
question can it run window base program ?
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no leh... web-based program only.
Can run linux and Android apps but it's not very optimized.. I rather use web
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:16 PM)
SGD1090 after all the discounts in LZD (bought Nov last year)
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Btw, don’t support google lah….google is a company that not worthy for us.

You pay to their service but they still access to your data
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im using chromeOS on regular thin 2-1 laptop.
with shitty spec, it perform good enough compare to windows 10.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:18 PM)
Wow! Expensive wey.
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haha yeah and very difficult to sell in second hand market. I feel it's good to use as a secondary device (one that you can bring around, the convertible touch screen with stylus also quite handy), but not your daily driver to do the heavy lifting
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:18 PM)
no leh... web-based program only.
Can run linux and Android apps but it's not very optimized.. I rather use web
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Why you buy cheomebook btw? LoL
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 01:19 PM)
im using chromeOS on regular thin 2-1 laptop.
with shitty spec, it perform good enough compare to windows 10.
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Get macbook…
Solved all problems in long run
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:19 PM)
Btw, don’t support google lah….google is a company that not worthy for us.

You pay to their service but they still access to your data
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but with GMail, Google Photos and Drive... it's hard not to get rid of them without sacrificing convenience, isn't it?
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haha yeah and very difficult to sell in second hand market. I feel it's good to use as a secondary device (one that you can bring around, the convertible touch screen with stylus also quite handy), but not your daily driver to do the heavy lifting
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How to get their repair or service if your chromebook rosak?
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:19 PM)
Why you buy cheomebook btw? LoL
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battery life super good!
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:20 PM)
Get macbook…
Solved all problems in long run
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nope. already sell hackintosh laptop.
macOS not for me as im not editing photos, video, web etc.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:20 PM)
How to get their repair or service if your chromebook rosak?
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Acer service center
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Very bad choice….no GPU and no NPU
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Acer service center
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Okay. If they do let you. I don’t think there is Acer service center in MY will accept the chromebook for repair and service
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nope. already sell hackintosh laptop.
macOS not for me as im not editing photos, video, web etc.
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What you do?
Havkintosh laptop? It means you use black apple lah?
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:21 PM)
battery life super good!
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Errrrrr….this is not something new for apple users
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:21 PM)
battery life super good!
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But you didn’t get the performance
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:24 PM)
But you didn’t get the performance
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you can't have it all bro... depends on what's priority to you.

Guess even with MacBook there's no awesome GPU that allows you to play the latest games in steam.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 01:17 PM)
I got one, the Lenovo N11. Slow like molasses and useless without an Internet connection.
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Chromebook is not worth. Save your money and get macbook
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:22 PM)
Okay. If they do let you. I don’t think there is Acer service center in MY will accept the chromebook for repair and service
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Acer Malaysia support International warranty bang.
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:25 PM)
you can't have it all bro... depends on what's priority to you.

Guess even with MacBook there's no awesome GPU that allows you to play the latest games in steam.
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Obviously you didn’t know macbook can get both balance performance and battery life…

Gaming? Your chromebook can do steam gaming?
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:23 PM)
What you do?
Havkintosh laptop? It means you use black apple lah?
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that laptop only for experiment macOS Ventura.
after installing many apps, did not use it at all.
so i let it go.

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:26 PM)
Acer Malaysia support International warranty bang.
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Okay. If that’s the case.
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 01:27 PM)
that laptop only for experiment macOS Ventura.
after installing many apps, did not use it at all.
so i let it go.

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Hackintosh is a shit….get a proper macbook air will do
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:26 PM)
Obviously you didn’t know macbook can get both balance performance and battery life…

Gaming? Your chromebook can do steam gaming?
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I can do cloud gaming in any shitty laptop.

Anyway, I have dedicated gaming PC which is Windows based.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:28 PM)
Hackintosh is a shit….get a proper macbook air will do
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as i said, nope. macOS is not for me. biggrin.gif

for my usage, im looking into android tablet.
moving on from chromeOS to proper android tablet.
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but with GMail, Google Photos and Drive... it's hard not to get rid of them without sacrificing convenience, isn't it?
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Gmail, google photo and drive can be replaced by apple native service.

Instead, google access all your data regardless you are googleone subscriber…

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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 01:29 PM)
as i said, nope. macOS is not for me.  biggrin.gif

for my usage, im looking into android tablet.
moving on from chromeOS to proper android tablet.
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Samsung Tab S9 is a good one!
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 01:29 PM)
as i said, nope. macOS is not for me.  biggrin.gif

for my usage, im looking into android tablet.
moving on from chromeOS to proper android tablet.
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You didn’t use the real products before doesnit not suit you….

Unless you telling me you are accountant
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:30 PM)
Samsung Tab S9 is a good one!
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:28 PM)
I can do cloud gaming in any shitty laptop.

Anyway, I have dedicated gaming PC which is Windows based.
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You are contradicting yourself
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:26 PM)

Gaming? Your chromebook can do steam gaming?
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boleh bang. spec laptop dia boleh gaming pakai Geforce Now.
acer ada chromebook khas utk gaming by Geforce Now

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:32 PM)
You are contradicting yourself
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No... I'm not smile.gif

I'm simply saying that what you prefer might not be what other people prefer. I'm not tied to any single ecosystem and simply getting the devices that suit my need
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:31 PM)
You didn’t use the real products before doesnit not suit you….

Unless you telling me you are accountant
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use the real MBP last time (during OSX year).

im not accountant.
its just that i dont have a need for macOS (read as apple eco), thus any macbook.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:33 PM)
boleh bang. spec laptop dia boleh gaming pakai Geforce Now.
acer ada chromebook khas utk gaming by Geforce Now

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chromeOS can install xbox app.
i stream my xbox to chromeOS, not bad using home wifi.
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Manufacturers making the same mistake as netbooks again.

This should be targeted at the low cost segment. Once you reach laptop level prices, what's the point?
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:33 PM)
No... I'm not smile.gif

I'm simply saying that what you prefer might not be what other people prefer. I'm not tied to any single ecosystem and simply getting the devices that suit my need
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You’re not providing the real solutions to the real needs…you just here to confused people and give people wrong hope and wrong expectations
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:33 PM)
boleh bang. spec laptop dia boleh gaming pakai Geforce Now.
acer ada chromebook khas utk gaming by Geforce Now

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How much is this? Can get this in MY?
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:13 PM)
I actually love my premium chromebook. You get better screen, less constraint by processor and RAM, better speaker, built quality etc..

It's not just about hardware/specs but other perks as well
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hmm. if for ur use case, isnt linux better for u? linux is still more complete OS than chromeOS
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just get normal laptop lar
remember last time got netbook, yea it failed
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Manufacturers making the same mistake as netbooks again.

This should be targeted at the low cost segment. Once you reach laptop level prices, what's the point?
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They just want to create hype…as normal business do

They don’t really want to solve people problems
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 7 2023, 01:35 PM)
Manufacturers making the same mistake as netbooks again.

This should be targeted at the low cost segment. Once you reach laptop level prices, what's the point?
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i have to agree with this.
they should focus on low to mid spec, not high end.

given the price point, you can get a "proper" laptop, why bother with chromeos.
chromebook main point last time is cheap laptop with reasonable operating system.
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:33 PM)
No... I'm not smile.gif

I'm simply saying that what you prefer might not be what other people prefer. I'm not tied to any single ecosystem and simply getting the devices that suit my need
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:30 PM)
Gmail, google photo and drive can be replaced by apple native service.

Instead, google access all your data regardless you are googleone subscriber…
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On this point. I've to agree with you (although if you read carefully Google access some of your data, not all)

But not enough for me to switch the entire ecosystem choice.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:36 PM)
hmm. if for ur use case, isnt linux better for u? linux is still more complete OS than chromeOS
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hmm. if for ur use case, isnt linux better for u? linux is still more complete OS than chromeOS
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chromeOS is a linux (gentoo base) itself.
also support debian base linux VM build into it.
got playstore for android support too.
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You’re not providing the real solutions to the real needs…you just here to confused people and give people wrong hope and wrong expectations
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Sorry... not sure what solutions I need to provide here, what are the real needs and who am I confusing?

I'm only speaking from my experience and use case. Which may not be the same as yours. Hope I didn't mislead anyone into buying a Chromebook!
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On this point. I've to agree with you (although if you read carefully Google access some of your data, not all)

But not enough for me to switch the entire ecosystem choice.
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Do you know google company direction and decision still on larry page a lone?

He have the share A that nobody can touch his decision….he decision vote is 85%
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:25 PM)
Chromebook is not worth. Save your money and get macbook
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Nope.

I already have laptops from Intel 1st to 8th gen of various models. All were upgraded to a max of 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD.

In total, I have 15 laptops. All are restored to perfect health and used daily or weekly. Each ran W10 or W7. Data is all synced to the cloud so each laptop will have the same data. Media kept on 2TB external NVME.

All 15 laptops are still cheaper than a MacBook M2 Air 15 inch with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage.

As a result, I never need to carry a charger or power bank whenever out for work as each laptop can use up to 5 hours. Older models max also 2-3 hours.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 01:39 PM)
Nope.

I already have laptops from Intel 1st to 8th gen of various models. All were upgraded to a max of 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD.

In total, I have 15 laptops. All are restored to perfect health and used daily or weekly. Each ran W10 or W7. Data is all synced to the cloud so each laptop will have the same data. Media kept on 2TB external NVME.

All 15 laptops are still cheaper than a MacBook M2 Air 15 inch with 16GB RAM and 512GB  storage.

As a result, I never need to carry a charger or power bank whenever out for work as each laptop can use up to 5 hours. Older models max also 2-3 hours.
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how u use all 15 laptops?
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On this point. I've to agree with you (although if you read carefully Google access some of your data, not all)

But not enough for me to switch the entire ecosystem choice.
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nobody ask you to switch your google ecosystem to apple ecosystem....uncle just want to tell ppl that no need to waste time & money on google ecosystem...
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Sorry... not sure what solutions I need to provide here, what are the real needs and who am I confusing?

I'm only speaking from my experience and use case. Which may not be the same as yours. Hope I didn't mislead anyone into buying a Chromebook!
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good if you didn't....

don;t be like Huawei....when they lost GMS....their salesperson still cheat uncle/auntie to buy their huawei phone....and say the GMS can be installed....

be clear to what it target to
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:36 PM)
How much is this? Can get this in MY?
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 01:39 PM)
Nope.

I already have laptops from Intel 1st to 8th gen of various models. All were upgraded to a max of 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD.

In total, I have 15 laptops. All are restored to perfect health and used daily or weekly. Each ran W10 or W7. Data is all synced to the cloud so each laptop will have the same data. Media kept on 2TB external NVME.

All 15 laptops are still cheaper than a MacBook M2 Air 15 inch with 16GB RAM and 512GB  storage.

As a result, I never need to carry a charger or power bank whenever out for work as each laptop can use up to 5 hours. Older models max also 2-3 hours.
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install chromeOS on it (4th gen above). icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 01:39 PM)
Nope.

I already have laptops from Intel 1st to 8th gen of various models. All were upgraded to a max of 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD.

In total, I have 15 laptops. All are restored to perfect health and used daily or weekly. Each ran W10 or W7. Data is all synced to the cloud so each laptop will have the same data. Media kept on 2TB external NVME.

All 15 laptops are still cheaper than a MacBook M2 Air 15 inch with 16GB RAM and 512GB  storage.

As a result, I never need to carry a charger or power bank whenever out for work as each laptop can use up to 5 hours. Older models max also 2-3 hours.
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this is a sign of stupidity....

if you are working on serious project or serious business....you will want to avoid this kind of practise at above quoted....

waste money, electronic pollutions, and no real benefits
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nobody ask you to switch your google ecosystem to apple ecosystem....uncle just want to tell ppl that no need to waste time & money on google ecosystem...
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you don't use Youtube or Google search engine? Guess you don't even use Chrome for browser and stick to Safari?
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MY still not official avaiable. but negara Jiran have
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only for cloud gaming....
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you don't use Youtube or Google search engine? Guess you don't even use Chrome for browser and stick to Safari?
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uncle didn't use FB/IG/whatsapp

and yes....no youtube/Google search/Chrome
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MY still not official avaiable. but negara Jiran have
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Google always abandon their projects... always make headlines only.
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but with GMail, Google Photos and Drive... it's hard not to get rid of them without sacrificing convenience, isn't it?
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i use MS mail, outlook, one drive for rm 200 peryear, i think is ok ....
only think i dont use MS is edge, edge seem like not that fine tunes compare with chrome, even both is same root.
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you don't use Youtube or Google search engine? Guess you don't even use Chrome for browser and stick to Safari?
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Google is the father of big data......FB is just kacang putih compare to Google....

Slowly you will see more and more monetized from google....

they called it fish, pancing, and market....
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:48 PM)
uncle didn't use FB/IG/whatsapp

and yes....no youtube/Google search/Chrome
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Good for you! My data is not as important as yours
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i use MS mail, outlook, one drive for rm 200 peryear, i think is ok ....
only think i dont use MS is edge, edge seem like not that fine tunes compare with chrome, even both is same root.
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how u use all 15 laptops?
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Every day, I carry 2 laptops when going out. That's 10 laptops per work week of mostly 12 to 14 inches. The remaining 5 will be mostly Precision and Latitude models over 15 inches and are mostly for outstation use due to workstation capabilities.

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Good for you! My data is not as important as yours
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it is not about important....it is about mindset my friend....

many things has been slowly 合理化 now...

just becareful my friend
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this is a sign of stupidity....

if you are working on serious project or serious business....you will want to avoid this kind of practise at above quoted....

waste money, electronic pollutions, and no real benefits
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for some ppl, quantity vs quality, as long as ego boost is ok.

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Google always abandon their projects... always make headlines only.
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Google --> this company really evil actually.....

if China didn't ban google or FB.....now they will have to pay a lot $$$$ to google and FB for their political/advertising/and influencing....
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:48 PM)
only for cloud gaming....
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Future cloud incoming ......

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Every day, I carry 2 laptops when going out. That's 10 laptops per work week of mostly 12 to 14 inches. The remaining 5 will be mostly Precision and Latitude models over 15 inches and are mostly for outstation use due to workstation capabilities.
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why need 2 laptops? dual screen purpose? hmm.gif
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for some ppl, quantity vs quality, as long as ego boost is ok.
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i wonder how he back-up his data....also, how to make his back-up date is safe (and connot simply open by devices)
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Future cloud incoming ......

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uncle use this long ago.....
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this already got right?
lease windows VM from MS.
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Every day, I carry 2 laptops when going out. That's 10 laptops per work week of mostly 12 to 14 inches. The remaining 5 will be mostly Precision and Latitude models over 15 inches and are mostly for outstation use due to workstation capabilities.
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i hope you will be top 10 malaysia most successful youth
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QUOTE(Gen000 @ Aug 7 2023, 01:50 PM)
i use MS mail, outlook, one drive for rm 200 peryear, i think is ok ....
only think i dont use MS is edge, edge seem like not that fine tunes compare with chrome, even both is same root.
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Edge Browser come with Sidebar now. very useful.
no need click to sign in. no need to installl. just hover the mouse .....
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Edge Browser come with Sidebar now. very useful.
no need click to sign in. no need to installl. just hover the mouse .....
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not for touchscreen ....
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 01:52 PM)
Every day, I carry 2 laptops when going out. That's 10 laptops per work week of mostly 12 to 14 inches. The remaining 5 will be mostly Precision and Latitude models over 15 inches and are mostly for outstation use due to workstation capabilities.
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nice, i also have a few laptops and a surface pro but i struggle to find use case for them haha, end up i sell them away
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 01:55 PM)
this already got right?
lease windows VM from MS.
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this time MS nak buat utk semua. tak kira apa devices & OS u guna.
sebelum ni hanya bussiness & commercial can use Windows 365
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:47 PM)
this is a sign of stupidity....

if you are working on serious project or serious business....you will want to avoid this kind of practise at above quoted....

waste money, electronic pollutions, and no real benefits
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Nah. All my laptops were bought as scraps, parts or given away by friends in the IT business. I restored them slowly and use it for work and entertainment. Why spend thousands on new non-upgradable models when the old ones are as good?
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not for touchscreen ....
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touch screen also can.
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Chromebook should not be priced more than $200~$250 and it should be premium. It's a chromebook. If I want to pay for that price, I expect a full fledge windows. $100~150 is topend midrange.

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nice, i also have a few laptops and a surface pro but i struggle to find use case for them haha, end up i sell them away
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yeah. the max i can use is 2 device. 1 always on and act as PC, 2nd is portable to bring from 1 room to another.


QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:58 PM)
this time MS nak buat utk semua. tak kira apa devices & OS u guna.
sebelum ni hanya bussiness & commercial can use Windows 365
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i tot when they launch in 2021 already for normal user, not only for business. i might be wrong tho
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Nah. All my laptops were bought as scraps, parts or given away by friends in the IT business. I restored them slowly and use it for work and entertainment. Why spend thousands on new non-upgradable models when the old ones are as good?
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did u get ur 8th gen intel laptop for free? or how much did u bought it?
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Nah. All my laptops were bought as scraps, parts or given away by friends in the IT business. I restored them slowly and use it for work and entertainment. Why spend thousands on new non-upgradable models when the old ones are as good?
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you see....now only you tell the full story....damn manipulative....why not you tell/mentioned it earlier? why you want to send wrong information to netizen?
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 01:54 PM)
why need 2 laptops? dual screen purpose?  hmm.gif
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I have an old Precision M2800 lying around. Currently converting into a DS as a side project. I bought a dead Latitude E6540 for 100 bucks for this. The FHD screen is working and only need to find a way to mount to the M2800 cleanly.
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i tot when they launch in 2021 already for normal user, not only for business.
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yeah. the max i can use is 2 device. 1 always on and act as PC, 2nd is portable to bring from 1 room to another.
i tot when they launch in 2021 already for normal user, not only for business. i might be wrong tho
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it waste your electricity...
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Chromebook should not be priced more than $200~$250. It's a chromebook. If I want to pay for that price, I expect a full fledge windows.
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honestly i dont understand chrome OS, if i dont need win program, why not use android tablet ?
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 02:00 PM)
did u get ur 8th gen intel laptop for free? or how much did u bought it?
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The 8th is not free but bought at scrap price is 500 bucks. The model is Latitude 7290. Has dings, dents, cracks, and overall not in 9/10 condition but it is fixable with some love and new parts.

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I have an old Precision M2800 lying around. Currently converting into a DS as a side project. I bought a dead Latitude E6540 for 100 bucks for this. The FHD screen is working and only need to find a way to mount to the M2800 cleanly.
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sorry, what is DS?

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Window 365 ni kena bayar macam Microsoft 365
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yup. subscription base.
and i was wrong, during 2021, still for business.

QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 02:01 PM)
it waste your electricity...
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not really. laptop did not suck watt like full desktop with RTX3090.
when not using, i put it on sleep.
while the "portable" laptop is always on battery, quick charge using USB-C 65W.
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nice, i also have a few laptops and a surface pro but i struggle to find use case for them haha, end up i sell them away
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If those have 8GB RAM and SSD, still can use and will fly with some W10 tweaks.

My rarest is the ThinkPad X61 Tablet. Since it only has 4GB RAM, I tried to tweak and debloat W10 as much as possible so it will run smoothly and fast.
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honestly i dont understand chrome OS, if i dont need win program, why not use android tablet ?
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because both OS live at the same time last time.
now chromeOS boss become google boss.
it also able to run android 11 natively.

and yes, i agree. better use android tablet.
thats they way im heading to.
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:00 PM)
yeah. the max i can use is 2 device. 1 always on and act as PC, 2nd is portable to bring from 1 room to another.
i tot when they launch in 2021 already for normal user, not only for business. i might be wrong tho
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yup, as much as i want to try or own multiple laptops or devices (tablets), but realistically can only use max 2 of them, the rests will be wasted and kept in drawers untouched sad.gif

recently i tried MS surface laptop and was amazed by its build quality, very premium, feels like a windows version of macbook, so i have been using it now and older laptops going to be decommissioned again laugh.gif
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sorry, what is DS?
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Dual Screen

The top case for M2800 and E6540 are the same so with some hinges and a controller board, I can make a dual-screen add-on for it. Perfect when traveling.
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honestly i dont understand chrome OS, if i dont need win program, why not use android tablet ?
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android tablet hard to do multitasking. chrome OS good for multitasking.

imagine tablet with 11 inch , 8GB Ram , 256gb SSD , snapdragon 7c with Chrome OS.
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If those have 8GB RAM and SSD, still can use and will fly with some W10 tweaks.

My rarest is the ThinkPad X61 Tablet. Since it only has 4GB RAM, I tried to tweak and debloat W10 as much as possible so it will run smoothly and fast.
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w10 with 4GB, really challenging.
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sorry, what is DS?
yup. subscription base.
and i was wrong, during 2021, still for business.
not really. laptop did not suck watt like full desktop with RTX3090.
when not using, i put it on sleep.
while the "portable" laptop is always on battery, quick charge using USB-C 65W.
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tell me you are not using prirated windows
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 02:03 PM)
The 8th is not free but bought at scrap price is 500 bucks. The model is Latitude 7290. Has dings, dents, cracks, and overall not in 9/10 condition but it is fixable with some love and new parts.
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thats very cheap for an intel 8th gen laptop thumbup.gif , i got my 8th gen intel laptop for almost double your price haha
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:07 PM)
for me, anything below 8GB ram, should only boot linux.  icon_idea.gif
w10 with 4GB, really challenging.
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honestly i dont understand chrome OS, if i dont need win program, why not use android tablet ?
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yup, as much as i want to try or own multiple laptops or devices (tablets), but realistically can only use max 2 of them, the rests will be wasted and kept in drawers untouched sad.gif

recently i tried MS surface laptop and was amazed by its build quality,  very premium, feels like a windows version of macbook, so i have been using it now and older laptops going to be decommissioned again laugh.gif
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Dual Screen

The top case for M2800 and E6540 are the same so with some hinges and a controller board, I can make a dual-screen add-on for it. Perfect when traveling.
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android tablet hard to do multitasking. chrome OS good for multitasking.

imagine tablet with 11 inch , 8GB Ram , 256gb SSD , snapdragon 7c with Chrome OS.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 02:06 PM)
android tablet hard to do multitasking. chrome OS good for multitasking.

imagine tablet with 11 inch , 8GB Ram , 256gb SSD , snapdragon 7c with Chrome OS.
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issit difficult to do multitasking?
my fold can handle multitasking very well leh .....
for simple presentation, zoom, teamviewer, pdf reading all pretty stable.
btw i don't use table any more.

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honestly i dont understand chrome OS, if i dont need win program, why not use android tablet ?
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not for normal people....

at least they can use google developer kit and SDK
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tell me you are not using prirated windows
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nope. genuine windows 10. it comes with the laptop OEM.

QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 02:08 PM)
My T450 with 8GB RAM on the latest Ubuntu is already slow enough. Must learn to tweak further.
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QUOTE(Gen000 @ Aug 7 2023, 02:09 PM)
issit difficult to do multitasking?
my fold can handle multitasking very well leh .....
for simple presentation, zoom, teamviewer, pdf reading all pretty stable.
btw i don't use table any more.
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its for reading and simple presentation.
but for editing u still need a laptop or tablet
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 02:08 PM)
thats very cheap for an intel 8th gen laptop thumbup.gif , i got my 8th gen intel laptop for almost double your price haha
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:09 PM)
used to own SP7, sold it due to battery no longer last long. good ebook reader tho.
ah.. i see. you DIY for dual screen.  thumbsup.gif
thats why i go for samsung s9+. dex interface more or less like chromeOS.
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microsoft products mostly pakai buang punya, damn cibai, same like apple devices, want to change battery also need like 50 steps and damn hard to disassemble the surface pro, my SP6 also facing same issue as u, battery degraded, and the type cover also degraded doh.gif

but have to admit their products really give premium feeling
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microsoft products mostly pakai buang punya, damn cibai, same like apple devices, want to change battery also need like 50 steps and damn hard to disassemble the surface pro, my SP6 also facing same issue as u, battery degraded, and the type cover also degraded doh.gif

but have to admit their products really give premium feeling
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premium feeling but only last 2 hours or so, not good enough la.
the price to change battery is like a brand new tablet, so nope, let it go n move on to other device.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 02:13 PM)
microsoft products mostly pakai buang punya, damn cibai, same like apple devices, want to change battery also need like 50 steps and damn hard to disassemble the surface pro, my SP6 also facing same issue as u, battery degraded, and the type cover also degraded doh.gif

but have to admit their products really give premium feeling
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My latest acquisition is the Latitude 5289 2-in-1 tablet/laptop. Unlike the Surface Pro, this model can upgrade the SSD, WiFi, 4G cards, and battery easily. All easily done by removing 6 screws and 6 clips. Parts are also cheap even on Shopee. Mine is so far ok and even came with a 4G card inside. Pop a Yoodo SIM card and it is now a mobile hotspot for all the other laptops. Might turn it into a public honeypot hotspot where everyone connects to it and I sniff out their traffic packets for fun.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 02:13 PM)
microsoft products mostly pakai buang punya, damn cibai, same like apple devices, want to change battery also need like 50 steps and damn hard to disassemble the surface pro, my SP6 also facing same issue as u, battery degraded, and the type cover also degraded doh.gif

but have to admit their products really give premium feeling
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i using sfgo3 now, cause of small size as i can put that laptop in my pouch .......
looking for high performance laptop, just one something i would carry around.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 01:03 PM)
i am awaiting Snapdragon + Chrome OS + SSD + Tablet
later window can bye bye.
mana boleh tahan carry 1.2kg laptop hari hari.
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Surface tablet is exist fyi
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:13 PM)
Again, this doesn’t make it not compatible
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That's what do you call this as? Unsupported boleh? I know I will not have problems plugging in an off the shelf hdd used between windows, chrome os and even android.

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 02:06 PM)
android tablet hard to do multitasking. chrome OS good for multitasking.

imagine tablet with 11 inch , 8GB Ram , 256gb SSD , snapdragon 7c with Chrome OS.
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That is true. I use Chrome OS as well. May not be to everyone's liking.


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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:15 PM)
This didn’t make ChromeOS better compatible to windows > macOS
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I cite and example. But it is just an example. If everyone just use browser and Ms apps like word, excel, then no difference. But there are little obstacles here and there once you delve deeper.

Well it is based on use case. But if I can point this out, as I have encountered this problem.
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All of these Chromebooks were released in 2022 if you are a serious player of cloud gaming on Chromebooks.

Acer Chromebook 516 GE,
ASUS Chromebook Vibe CX55 Flip
Lenovo Ideapad Gaming Chromebook

the rest https://www.androidpolice.com/best-gaming-chromebooks/

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 02:20 PM)
That's what do you call this as? Unsupported boleh? I know I will not have problems plugging in an off the shelf hdd used between windows, chrome os and even android.
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if you know Microsoft is the biggest Apple developer....you will not have questions about compatibility....

only stupid people see EXFAT, FAT, NFST as compatible or not
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 01:12 PM)
Not true yea. MacOS can read FAT and EXFAT and NTFS
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If you read it between an app or even network, yes.

But Mac os cannot read directly from ntfs formatted drive like an external drive.

Exfat is the best method for Mac os/ win compatibility.

You can try pick a random usb hard drive from anyone not using Mac, and chances are you can't see what's in it.
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QUOTE(xpole @ Aug 7 2023, 02:20 PM)
Surface tablet is exist fyi
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surface tablet berat. 800gram.
Surface Go cant pakai
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That is true. I use Chrome OS as well. May not be to everyone's liking.
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i want 500-600gram tablet with OS interfaces like Windows.
Chrome OS is the anwser
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 02:25 PM)
I cite and example. But it is just an example. If everyone just use browser and Ms apps like word, excel, then no difference. But there are little obstacles here and there  once you delve deeper.

Well it is based on use case. But if I can point this out, as I  have encountered this problem.
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you should mentioned MS DOS and MacOS difference instead
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 02:29 PM)
If you read it between an app or even network, yes.

But Mac os cannot read directly from ntfs formatted drive like an external drive.

Exfat is the best method for Mac os/ win compatibility.

You can try pick a random usb hard drive from anyone not using Mac, and chances are you can't see what's in it.
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nobody use hard-drive like that anymore....that's not compatibility issues
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 02:13 PM)
That's why no need to buy new. Buy scraps and fix them yourself. Buy 2 if possible for parts. New parts from AliExpress need to wait up to 3 weeks to arrive. Sometimes lucky, the new parts are much better quality than the existing ones. An example is the X230 backlit keyboard from AliExpress. Paid 150 bucks for it but the quality and typing experience is like heaven. Worse unlucky will be the T420 body parts. Came in a smashed box and all parts were broken inside. Got a full refund and decided to buy another broken T420 for 100 bucks to harvest the body parts instead.
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yup agreed, i never buy any new laptops since 4 or 5 years ago after i tried used thinkpads, now just get used thinkpads or other used laptops

but i will try to get those newer models that have modern stuffs in it, like thunderbolt, usb C charging etc
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 02:19 PM)
My latest acquisition is the Latitude 5289 2-in-1 tablet/laptop. Unlike the Surface Pro, this model can upgrade the SSD, WiFi, 4G cards, and battery easily. All easily done by removing 6 screws and 6 clips. Parts are also cheap even on Shopee. Mine is so far ok and even came with a 4G card inside. Pop a Yoodo SIM card and it is now a mobile hotspot for all the other laptops. Might turn it into a public honeypot hotspot where everyone connects to it and I sniff out their traffic packets for fun.
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haha, but now almost all websites use https, hard to sniff ledi haha
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 02:32 PM)
you should mentioned MS DOS and MacOS difference instead
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Fat 16 files? Been there done that.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 02:29 PM)
If you read it between an app or even network, yes.

But Mac os cannot read directly from ntfs formatted drive like an external drive.

Exfat is the best method for Mac os/ win compatibility.

You can try pick a random usb hard drive from anyone not using Mac, and chances are you can't see what's in it.
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macOS can read NTFS but cannot natively write on it.
need 3rd party app to enable NTFS write.

need to use exFAT for compatibility with other(almost all) device.

QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 02:32 PM)
i want 500-600gram tablet with OS interfaces like Windows.
Chrome OS is the anwser
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haip. die2 need to go to apple ecosystem la. bangwall.gif

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 12:42 PM)
user posted image

Acer Store at United State already avaiable chromebook at i5 / i7 with Intel 12 gen.
-come wth 8GB or 16GB Ram
- SSD somemore.
- not avaiable in Malaysia

user posted image

-Chrome OS as a tablet .
-Use Snapdragon chip.
- only 64GB or 128GB Emcc doh.gif
- harga murah giler.

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chromebooks have always been sh*t. what makes this different?
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a lot of international schools are using it as mainly for online for their students study and research
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:45 PM)
macOS can read NTFS but cannot natively write on it.
need 3rd party app to enable NTFS write.

need to use exFAT for compatibility with other(almost all) device.
haip. die2 need to go to apple ecosystem la.  bangwall.gif
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use macbook doesn't mean apple ecosystem!!!!!
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 02:32 PM)
i want 500-600gram tablet with OS interfaces like Windows.
Chrome OS is the anwser
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I have a 12.3in 3000*2000, i5 8GB 128GB Chrome OS tablet. Its fast and satisfy my needs. I use Linux apps like Gimp, etc. as well as Android apps like Lightroom on it. It can also stream Netflix on Widevine L1. Multi-tasking is as good as Windows or Linux systems for my needs.

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QUOTE(wasime @ Aug 7 2023, 04:46 AM)
if price like a normal laptop for what we choose chrome os

nowday all laptop with the same spec come and price with win11
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Most important thing is...

Open yutub need to watch ads or not on chromebook?

On windows laptop like my surface, can avoid watching ads without needing to go premium.
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:45 PM)
macOS can read NTFS but cannot natively write on it.
need 3rd party app to enable NTFS write.

need to use exFAT for compatibility with other(almost all) device.
haip. die2 need to go to apple ecosystem la.  bangwall.gif
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Most people use cloud or network non-issue. I get it. But like these people can't even take a small example as a minor non serious flaw. If they can't attack the designer, the attack the messenger. 🤭🤭

Sometimes I dunno why I have to solve Mac compatibility issues for people when I could just ask them to file the problem with Steve... Oh shit he cuci tangan Liao 6 feet under some more.🤭🤭
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 02:37 PM)
yup agreed, i never buy any new laptops since 4 or 5 years ago after i tried used thinkpads, now just get used thinkpads or other used laptops

but i will try to get those newer models that have modern stuffs in it, like thunderbolt, usb C charging etc
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ThinkPads and Latitudes need to check thoroughly.

Some were used by the salespeople and were always in terrible condition. Some are only used by the bosses and are always in good condition. The best way to check is the fan. If full of dust and smells of cigarette smoke.

My T440p was formerly used for sales and the outside bears the marks of a workhorse with dents, scratches, cracks, and even missing screws. Inside the fan was full of dust and smells of cigarette smoke. The keyboard is also heavily worn out (missing letters) and the trackpad is also full of scratches.

Luckily a few weeks before, I bought another T440p with a dead motherboard for 50 bucks. From here, I harvested a good keyboard, screen, trackpad, and various body shells. The old one was cleaned thoroughly and reassembled back with cleaner and newer parts. Now I have a working and almost mint T440p. Eventually, it was upgraded to 16GB RAM, FHD screen, M.2 SATA SSD, 2.5 inch SSD, and another 2.5 inch SSD (replaced the DVD drive) for a total of 1TB with 3 SSDs. Just recently, I added a backlit keyboard for it. I also kept the exterior original as I don't fancy vinyl stickers or body wraps.

The worse ThinkPad I have ever come across will be the E440. It is not solid and has a flaky motherboard. It will shut down by itself for no reason. Another E440 from a friend also behaved this way. Since then I avoided collecting ThinkPads from R, E, A, and L series. Genuinely these were mostly rebadged Ideapad from Lenovo and not real ThinkPads.

Recently I started looking at HP Elitebooks as many were selling with good specs for below 500 bucks for 5th and 6th gens. Some even came with the dock which was super expensive when new.
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Aug 7 2023, 02:50 PM)
use macbook doesn't mean apple ecosystem!!!!!
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need to login to icloud to use imessage, facetime, icloud.

QUOTE(GreenWhite @ Aug 7 2023, 02:51 PM)
I have a 12.3in 3000*2000, i5 8GB 128GB Chrome OS tablet. Its fast and satisfy my needs. I use Linux apps like Gimp, etc. as well as Android apps like Lightroom on it. It can also stream Netflix on Widevine L1. Multi-tasking is as good as Windows or Linux systems for my needs.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Aug 7 2023, 02:52 PM)
Most important thing is...

Open yutub need to watch ads or not on chromebook?

On windows laptop like my surface, can avoid watching ads without needing to go premium.
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still can use adblock la.

QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 02:52 PM)
Most people use cloud or network non-issue. I get it. But like these people can't even take a small example as a minor non serious flaw. If they can't attack the designer, the attack the messenger. 🤭🤭

Sometimes I dunno why I have to solve Mac compatibility issues for people when I could just ask them to file the problem with Steve... Oh shit he cuci tangan Liao 6 feet under some more.🤭🤭
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let me give another example brows.gif
macOS printer compatibility is shit.
most canon printer are not supported, need to use CUPS compatible printer. fuuuuu rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(xpole @ Aug 7 2023, 06:20 AM)
Surface tablet is exist fyi
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Expensive maybe, cannot game pulaks.

Same situation im facing daily, and I stopped gaming completely while on my working laptop aka surface pro9 and surface Studio.

Sometimes really itchy wanna download steam on my studio but sudah lah, had to get rid of the thought of wanting everything on one device.

Those is cheapo mentality, tbh.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 7 2023, 02:29 PM)
If you read it between an app or even network, yes.

But Mac os cannot read directly from ntfs formatted drive like an external drive.

Exfat is the best method for Mac os/ win compatibility.

You can try pick a random usb hard drive from anyone not using Mac, and chances are you can't see what's in it.
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Wei. Wrong info la.

Macs can read NTFS but cannot write natively only. The solution is to format the storage media to exFAT so both Windows and Mac can read/write. But exFAT is not compatible with XP and below. So, best to run these ancient OS under a VM.
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 06:55 AM)
still can use adblock la.
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SUMA SUDA Ex Pai yah.

Now in my chrome la, IE la, all says Adblock, best adblocker, tapi bukak site, says expired, need renew, lel. But feel like it still working, although some pop up still jumps in once in a while.


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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 06:56 AM)
Wei. Wrong info la.

Macs can read NTFS but cannot write natively only. The solution is to format the storage media to exFAT so both Windows and Mac can read/write. But exFAT is not compatible with XP and below. So, best to run these ancient OS under a VM.
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reading this reply feel like its very interesting but early 8am morning here...

rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Aug 7 2023, 03:00 PM)
SUMA SUDA Ex Pai yah.

Now in my chrome la, IE la, all says Adblock, best adblocker, tapi bukak site, says expired, need renew, lel. But feel like it still working, although some pop up still jumps in once in a while.
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:55 PM)
need to login to icloud to use imessage, facetime, icloud.
dont forget Krita. good app for drawing/sketch.
still can use adblock la.
let me give another example  brows.gif
macOS printer compatibility is shit.
most canon printer are not supported, need to use CUPS compatible printer. fuuuuu  rclxub.gif
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When using or buying a Mac, always choose HP printers. The drivers are fully compatible and those with WiFi will show up automatically.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 03:05 PM)
When using or buying a Mac, always choose HP printers. The drivers are fully compatible and those with WiFi will show up automatically.
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already own canon printer. lucky it still compatible with ChromeOS but cannot use scan function.
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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ Aug 7 2023, 02:51 PM)
I have a 12.3in 3000*2000, i5 8GB 128GB Chrome OS tablet. Its fast and satisfy my needs. I use Linux apps like Gimp, etc. as well as Android apps like Lightroom on it. It can also stream Netflix on Widevine L1. Multi-tasking is as good as Windows or Linux systems for my needs.
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yes this is what i want .

Size macam Samsung Tab S9+ tak a?
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post Aug 7 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 07:03 AM)
u use the wrong adblocker  doh.gif
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Hajar please.

Decades ago stuff download settle menyetel, nowadays machiam sked sked. Not from Google punya store add-on takut.

You know la, me got business on light and below light, sked kantoi.
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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ Aug 7 2023, 02:51 PM)
I have a 12.3in 3000*2000, i5 8GB 128GB Chrome OS tablet. Its fast and satisfy my needs. I use Linux apps like Gimp, etc. as well as Android apps like Lightroom on it. It can also stream Netflix on Widevine L1. Multi-tasking is as good as Windows or Linux systems for my needs.
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that size screen almost 1:1 with B5 Paper. which model is that? B5 paper only need to scale to 97% to fit the screen.

QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Aug 7 2023, 03:08 PM)
Hajar please.

Decades ago stuff download settle menyetel, nowadays machiam sked sked. Not from Google punya store add-on takut.

You know la, me got business on light and below light, sked kantoi.
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uBlock origin.
on macos, chromeos, windows still can use.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 7 2023, 02:53 PM)
ThinkPads and Latitudes need to check thoroughly.

Some were used by the salespeople and were always in terrible condition. Some are only used by the bosses and are always in good condition. The best way to check is the fan. If full of dust and smells of cigarette smoke.

My T440p was formerly used for sales and the outside bears the marks of a workhorse with dents, scratches, cracks, and even missing screws. Inside the fan was full of dust and smells of cigarette smoke. The keyboard is also heavily worn out (missing letters) and the trackpad is also full of scratches.

Luckily a few weeks before, I bought another T440p with a dead motherboard for 50 bucks. From here, I harvested a good keyboard, screen, trackpad, and various body shells. The old one was cleaned thoroughly and reassembled back with cleaner and newer parts. Now I have a working and almost mint T440p. Eventually, it was upgraded to 16GB RAM, FHD screen, M.2 SATA SSD, 2.5 inch SSD, and another 2.5 inch SSD (replaced the DVD drive) for a total of 1TB with 3 SSDs. Just recently, I added a backlit keyboard for it. I also kept the exterior original as I don't fancy vinyl stickers or body wraps.

The worse ThinkPad I have ever come across will be the E440. It is not solid and has a flaky motherboard. It will shut down by itself for no reason. Another E440 from a friend also behaved this way. Since then I avoided collecting ThinkPads from R, E, A, and L series. Genuinely these were mostly rebadged Ideapad from Lenovo and not real ThinkPads.

Recently I started looking at HP Elitebooks as many were selling with good specs for below 500 bucks for 5th and 6th gens. Some even came with the dock which was super expensive when new.
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true, for thinkpads, the ones worth collecting are the T and X series, others are just crap

u can also look out for dell XPS series, its the business/enterprise grade laptop from dell

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 07:14 AM)
true, for thinkpads, the ones worth collecting are the T and X series, others are just crap

u can also look out for dell XPS series, its the business/enterprise grade laptop from dell
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Is Business Priced laptop better build than household priced laptops?

Like surface, the business one is like 100+ pound more than the household one, but from specwise, no different.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Aug 7 2023, 03:18 PM)
Is Business Priced laptop better build than household priced laptops?

Like surface, the business one is like 100+ pound more than the household one, but from specwise, no different.
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more tahan lo, but if just nornal use then no diff geh, and business grade laptops can tahan more abuse than consumer grade laptops
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 07:20 AM)
more tahan lo, but if just nornal use then no diff geh, and business grade laptops can tahan more abuse than consumer grade laptops
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Still feel weird.

My office provide my monkeys with Imac coz nobody in office macam tau how to use windows except our IT manyzer.

But the software for our Airbnb bookings, Travel booking, payment, etc all window/IOS compatible (had to pay extra tho, not sure got kena scampee or not on this part)

Meanwhile, me using surface, im big Bill-Gate Loyalist.
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 02:55 PM)
need to login to icloud to use imessage, facetime, icloud.
dont forget Krita. good app for drawing/sketch.
still can use adblock la.
let me give another example  brows.gif
macOS printer compatibility is shit.
most canon printer are not supported, need to use CUPS compatible printer. fuuuuu  rclxub.gif
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need to log in to icloud? yes...but every drive need to log in....still not justify to meaning using Apple Ecosystem
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 7 2023, 03:14 PM)
true, for thinkpads, the ones worth collecting are the T and X series, others are just crap

u can also look out for dell XPS series, its the business/enterprise grade laptop from dell
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For Dell, stay away from Inspiron. Picked up an Inspiron 5547 with a bad display and battery. The laptop actually flexes when typing! Imagine putting it a bag without any padding, surely the unit will crack or bent.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 7 2023, 03:07 PM)
yes this is what i want .

Size macam Samsung Tab S9+ tak a?
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QUOTE(awol @ Aug 7 2023, 03:14 PM)
that size screen almost 1:1 with B5 Paper. which model is that? B5 paper only need to scale to 97% to fit the screen.
uBlock origin.
on macos, chromeos, windows still can use.
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Pixel Slate i5 model.


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Windows Notebook
pros: can run legacy apps and also can run game
cons: overheated problem, not suitable with i9. will also slow like a donkey without AC power. battery operation cannot last long

MacBook
pros: no overheated problem, good performance and battery operation more than 10+ hours
cons: cannot play game and some apps are not ported to mac

ChromeBook
pros: affordable for poor students in classroom
cons: is a cheap notebook, what do you expect??? does not make any sense for anybody that going to buy one with high specs
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Why are we still producing these ewaste-right-off-the-shelves???
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Bruh chromebook with this pricing who will use
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QUOTE(jusohbt @ Aug 7 2023, 05:44 PM)
Windows Notebook
  pros: can run legacy apps and also can run game
  cons: overheated problem, not suitable with i9.  will also slow like a donkey without AC power. battery operation cannot last long

MacBook
  pros: no overheated problem, good performance and battery operation more than 10+ hours
  cons: cannot play game and some apps are not ported to mac

ChromeBook
  pros: affordable for poor students in classroom
  cons: is a cheap notebook, what do you expect???  does not make any sense for anybody that going to buy one with high specs
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This is gonna change.
Apple working hard to improve gaming on Mac now.

 

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