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TSguy3288
post Jul 17 2024, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 2 2024, 08:52 PM)
okay this Aussie bond is selling cheap now AUD98 anyone?

Yield to maturity 5.47%
problem is AUD is at high vs MYR
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enter now is RM315k
later if drop to  3.11 can save RM4000
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price is going up....cant wait further,
hantamlah today at AUD98
at least MYR strengthened abit from 3.17+

CIMB gave me exchange rate 3.1556
she said best offer liao 76 bips above spot rate 3.148



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post Aug 5 2024, 02:10 PM

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MyE.G. Bond good rating AA-
coupon 5.5%-
3 yrs maturity
any one?


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BWassup
post Sep 4 2024, 09:50 AM

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Tropicana Bond 1st call is on 25 September.

I presume they will be redeeming the bonds, unless anyone here has information otherwise?
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post Sep 4 2024, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Sep 4 2024, 09:50 AM)
Tropicana Bond 1st call is on 25 September.

I presume they will be redeeming the bonds, unless anyone here has information otherwise?
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They are redeeming
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post Sep 5 2024, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Sep 4 2024, 09:50 AM)
Tropicana Bond 1st call is on 25 September.

I presume they will be redeeming the bonds, unless anyone here has information otherwise?
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Sep 4 2024, 10:43 PM)
They are redeeming
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Yeah 90% will redeem...
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post Sep 5 2024, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 5 2024, 07:52 AM)
Yeah 90% will redeem...
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I reckon 95% biggrin.gif . They have announced several large property and land sales in the past few months, including Tropicana Mall. Should have the funds in place, it's not a very big issue.

Any good corporate bonds to switch to, but not the perpetual ones if it is Malaysian bonds? Just don't trust the local issuers so much e.g. Cypark delayed 2x already! Plus illiquid market, can't get out easily.
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post Sep 5 2024, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 5 2024, 07:52 AM)
Yeah 90% will redeem...
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Windfall lai liao for bro guy3288

Congratulations!! Hahaha
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post Sep 5 2024, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Sep 5 2024, 09:10 AM)
I reckon 95% biggrin.gif . They have announced several large property and land sales in the past few months, including Tropicana Mall. Should have the funds in place, it's not a very big issue.

Any good corporate bonds to switch to, but not the perpetual ones if it is Malaysian bonds? Just don't trust the local issuers so much e.g. Cypark delayed 2x already! Plus illiquid market, can't get out easily.
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dont redeem back pay me 9% i am okay.
i thought the MyEg bond was good, but my RM discouraged me.

i bought the Victorian treasury paper, kena cukup cukuo
paid extra RM23000+ then when AUD to MYR was 3.155
now only 2.92...sigh..

QUOTE(hksgmy @ Sep 5 2024, 10:28 AM)
Windfall lai liao for bro guy3288

Congratulations!! Hahaha
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No lah bro...cari makan sikit sikit only..
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post Sep 5 2024, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 5 2024, 01:29 PM)
dont redeem back pay me 9% i am okay.
i thought the MyEg bond was good, but my RM discouraged me.

i bought the Victorian treasury paper, kena cukup cukuo
paid extra RM23000+ then when AUD to MYR was 3.155
now only 2.92...sigh..
No lah bro...cari makan sikit sikit only..
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That’s why I will only buy AUD bond with extra AUD cash that I have, but with my FDs paying 4.8% interest, the incentive isn’t very high at the moment.
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post Sep 5 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Sep 5 2024, 01:30 PM)
That’s why I will only buy AUD bond with extra AUD cash that I have, but with my FDs paying 4.8% interest, the incentive isn’t very high at the moment.
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now AUD down may be is good time to accumulate first?

i told my RM to buy at 2.92,
but AUD FD rate only 4.4%
compared to your 4.8% there in Australia?



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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 5 2024, 01:41 PM)
now AUD down may be is good time to accumulate first?

i told my RM to buy at 2.92,
but  AUD FD rate only 4.4%
compared to your  4.8% there in Australia?
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HLB RM reckons AUD current exchange rate is viable for investments in AUD
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post Sep 5 2024, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 5 2024, 01:41 PM)
now AUD down may be is good time to accumulate first?

i told my RM to buy at 2.92,
but  AUD FD rate only 4.4%
compared to your  4.8% there in Australia?
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Yes. This rate is only available for taxpayers with PR or citizen status.
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post Sep 5 2024, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Sep 5 2024, 02:30 PM)
HLB RM reckons AUD current exchange rate is viable for investments in AUD
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I bought some today 2.92
going down would buy more and keep

revenge buy becos that day i kena 3.1556
when bought the 2 bonds, both lelong at AUD96.80 and AUD98
luckily bond prices up above PAR already...

park in Austr FD 3 month 4.4%
interest calculation based on 360days,
Austr 1 year so short meh? not 365days
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 5 2024, 10:14 PM)
I bought some today 2.92
going down would buy more and keep

revenge buy becos that day i kena 3.1556
when bought the 2 bonds, both lelong at AUD96.80 and AUD98
luckily bond prices  up above PAR already...

park in Austr FD 3 month 4.4%
interest calculation based on 360days,
Austr 1 year so short meh? not 365days
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2.9205 so good rate. CIMB doesn't charge a loading when we buy foreign currency?
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post Sep 7 2024, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Sep 5 2024, 11:49 PM)
2.9205 so good rate. CIMB doesn't charge a loading when we buy foreign currency?
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titanium rate is best rate lowest spread
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 7 2024, 04:18 PM)
titanium rate is best rate lowest spread
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Going down 2.89 looks like got to buy again Monday
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post Sep 8 2024, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 7 2024, 09:54 PM)
Going down 2.89 looks like got to buy again Monday
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I thought I'd just follow up on the Aussie FD rate for clarification:

The link is HERE

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Just perfect for me, as there's a whole trench of FDs in Australia that are maturing between 11th and 16th September (just before the Fed's scheduled meeting)

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post Sep 12 2024, 01:25 PM

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MARC Ratings has assigned a preliminary rating of AIS to Tropicana Corporation Berhad’s proposed RM1.5 billion Islamic Medium-Term Notes (IMTN) (Sukuk Wakalah) and concurrently affirmed its ratings of AIS on the RM1.5 billion IMTN (Sukuk Wakalah) and A-IS on the RM2.0 billion Perpetual Sukuk. The outlook on all ratings is stable.

Proceeds from the initial drawdown of RM350 million under the new programme will be largely utilised to redeem the first tranche of its Perpetual Sukuk of RM248 million on the first call date on September 25, 2024. Further issuances under the new programme over the next three years would be to redeem the remaining two Perpetual Sukuk tranches and refinance the outstanding notes under the existing Sukuk Wakalah, which currently has an outstanding of RM745.5 million (end-2023: RM855.5 million).

https://www.marconline.com.my/press/60538900469806
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Sep 12 2024, 01:25 PM)
MARC Ratings has assigned a preliminary rating of AIS to Tropicana Corporation Berhad’s proposed RM1.5 billion Islamic Medium-Term Notes (IMTN) (Sukuk Wakalah) and concurrently affirmed its ratings of AIS on the RM1.5 billion IMTN (Sukuk Wakalah) and A-IS on the RM2.0 billion Perpetual Sukuk. The outlook on all ratings is stable.

Proceeds from the initial drawdown of RM350 million under the new programme will be largely utilised to redeem the first tranche of its Perpetual Sukuk of RM248 million on the first call date on September 25, 2024. Further issuances under the new programme over the next three years would be to redeem the remaining two Perpetual Sukuk tranches and refinance the outstanding notes under the existing Sukuk Wakalah, which currently has an outstanding of RM745.5 million (end-2023: RM855.5 million).

https://www.marconline.com.my/press/60538900469806
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yay yay rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Maybe can switch over to the next two to be called?

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post Sep 12 2024, 11:21 PM

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What the fuck, received an "Exchange Offer" from Tropicana. Seems like they are strong-arming sukukholders to accept this new shitty deal. If I read it correctly, if 75% of the sukukholders vote yes in the EGM, we have no choice in the matter and will be binded by the decision of the EGM!

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Last year, we published a write up on Tropicana, flagging out their liquidity issues and consistent delays in their asset disposal. Since then, the Group has made significant progress to recover from their high debt load through successful disposal of low yielding assets.

To briefly summarise their progress, Tropicana has managed to lower their total borrowings from RM3.5 billion in 1H23 to RM2.7 billion in 1H24, lowering their Debt-to-Equity ratio from 68% to 53%. They are expected to continue improving their balance sheet, with their announced sales of Tropicana Gardens Mall to IOI for RM680 million and a sale of a parcel of land in Gelang Patah for RM383 million.

Despite their liquidity issues showing signs of improvements, it still remains a concern in the short term. Nevertheless, the new Sukuk Programme of RM1.5 billion, together with the new issuance of RM450 million will support their refinancing of their maturing debt. Additionally, the planned refinancing aims to reduce interest costs from their perpetuals which is subjected to a coupon step-up of 2% upon the first call date.We are overall optimistic that they are able to reduce their leverage to a comfortable level, especially with an additional announced sales of RM1.2 billion, expected to be realised by the end of 2024. We opine that this will bring down their total borrowings to around RM2.3 billion with a Debt-to-Equity ratio of 45% and provide financing cost savings of around RM 24 million p.a.

On another note, earnings have improved YoY from RM19 million in 1H23 to RM60 million in 1H24, while unbilled sales of RM2.4 billion provides some earnings visibility in the short to medium term. Furthermore, we expect the positive sentiment surrounding Johor’s property market to continue to support Tropicana’s future outlook, given their sizeable landbank in the area.

In summary, we believe that the option to accept the New Sukuk is the best course of action given the overall less risky structure, fairly priced coupon rate and the added benefit from the 0.25% consent fee.

This email serves as a notification and no actions are required from you. FSMOne shall vote on your behalf to accept the exchange offer.

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